At the bronze level, the timing of the 'rock in place' and 'spot turn' after the Aida can only be '2341'. There can be alternatives exits at the Silver level such as a double spot turn or rock in place and Kiki walks. But the timing of these options still remains as '2341 2341'.
Thanks for the comment. In Rumba, there are 4 beats but only 3 steps in each bar of music. But to really dance the Rumba well requires the understanding that each bar actually has 8 half beats (1&2&3&4&). The steps are taken on '2, 3, 4'. So what do you do with the other 5 half beats? The answer is body rhythm- the explanation of which requires more than a 30 sec video clip or 500 words. To make a long story short, there is much more to dancing Rumba musically than just quick quick slow.
Excellent teaching skills, however....chance8yes is correct in his observation. Your
movements are disassociated from the music being played. I only hear 4 equal beats but your steps incorporate QQS which means that the S is constantly syncopated. It seems that Intl. rumba and cha cha are like Argentinian Tango..going through the motions without any regard for the music being played !
Listen to the cha cha music there is a syncopation on the backbeat aka 1, 2, 3, 4 and 1 thus cha cha uses five steps for four beast of music but this is the character of the music - 2, 3, 4 and 1
Dancing on 1 in cha cha rather than 2 is disregarding the music.
Rumba are steps on 2, 3 (replacing weight it depends on the step) but the 4-1 transition is used to accentuate body movement to the music thus step on 4 but the hip movement completes on 1
There are 2 styles of Rumba- American style & International style. I teach the International style. The basic count in American Style Rumba is usually SQQ (Slow, Quick, Quick) starting on count 1 or sometimes as QQS starting on count 1. The basic count in International Style Rumba is QQS also but starting on count 2, ie. '2341'. Thanks for watching and happy dancing.
So the music plays 4 beats but the dance steps are still quick-quick-slow with the slow step being counted as 4,1. That is interesting. I've learned some basic rumba mostly with quick-quick-slow. Thanks Mr Wong. Your teaching skill is super.
It is fantastic ! very clear and easily applied techniques. The most interesting and very helpful for beginners are foot works and man-leading techniques. Many thanks.
However, one thing that is not clear is the rhythm. They dance neither Quick/Quick - Slow nor Slow - Quick/Quick. Rather, they seem to dance on the euqally spaced Waltz rhythm which does not match the music closely.
The lack of clear rhythm here really confuses the beginers.
Thanks for the comment. To clarify the rhythm of International style Rumba shown here, the music is 4/4 which means 4 beats to 1 bar of music, counting 1234. The dancer steps fwd (or back) on 2, replace on 3, & step side using 2 counts 4,1. This slow transfer of weight to the side is to emphasize body rhythm. A forward-replace-side is equal to quick-quick-slow. In American style Rumba box step, dancers step forward on 1 hold the 2, step side on 3, close on 4 (Slow-Quick-quick).
Is there a different exit timing possible?
2Pourlavie 6 months ago
@2Pourlavie
At the bronze level, the timing of the 'rock in place' and 'spot turn' after the Aida can only be '2341'. There can be alternatives exits at the Silver level such as a double spot turn or rock in place and Kiki walks. But the timing of these options still remains as '2341 2341'.
Andy Wong, The Grand Ballroom
aanw97 6 months ago
Thanks for the comment. In Rumba, there are 4 beats but only 3 steps in each bar of music. But to really dance the Rumba well requires the understanding that each bar actually has 8 half beats (1&2&3&4&). The steps are taken on '2, 3, 4'. So what do you do with the other 5 half beats? The answer is body rhythm- the explanation of which requires more than a 30 sec video clip or 500 words. To make a long story short, there is much more to dancing Rumba musically than just quick quick slow.
aanw97 11 months ago
Excellent teaching skills, however....chance8yes is correct in his observation. Your
movements are disassociated from the music being played. I only hear 4 equal beats but your steps incorporate QQS which means that the S is constantly syncopated. It seems that Intl. rumba and cha cha are like Argentinian Tango..going through the motions without any regard for the music being played !
zxcvbnrebus 11 months ago
@zxcvbnrebus
NO!
Listen to the cha cha music there is a syncopation on the backbeat aka 1, 2, 3, 4 and 1 thus cha cha uses five steps for four beast of music but this is the character of the music - 2, 3, 4 and 1
Dancing on 1 in cha cha rather than 2 is disregarding the music.
Rumba are steps on 2, 3 (replacing weight it depends on the step) but the 4-1 transition is used to accentuate body movement to the music thus step on 4 but the hip movement completes on 1
So both do regard the music!!!
jamesandsab 7 months ago
There are 2 styles of Rumba- American style & International style. I teach the International style. The basic count in American Style Rumba is usually SQQ (Slow, Quick, Quick) starting on count 1 or sometimes as QQS starting on count 1. The basic count in International Style Rumba is QQS also but starting on count 2, ie. '2341'. Thanks for watching and happy dancing.
Andy Wong, The Grand Ballroom
aanw97 11 months ago
So the music plays 4 beats but the dance steps are still quick-quick-slow with the slow step being counted as 4,1. That is interesting. I've learned some basic rumba mostly with quick-quick-slow. Thanks Mr Wong. Your teaching skill is super.
daileisu 11 months ago
yes.. indeed this is the best !!!!!
sanloong 2 years ago
It is fantastic ! very clear and easily applied techniques. The most interesting and very helpful for beginners are foot works and man-leading techniques. Many thanks.
John H
Hoang302 2 years ago
He is the best instructor so far I 've had.
5382035 2 years ago
Super, danke für die Hilfe!!!
wollemann51 3 years ago
thank you. that was very helpful
nestegoldie 3 years ago
very graceful couple
subsdancestuff 3 years ago
Very nice group and clearly taught. Thanks.
However, one thing that is not clear is the rhythm. They dance neither Quick/Quick - Slow nor Slow - Quick/Quick. Rather, they seem to dance on the euqally spaced Waltz rhythm which does not match the music closely.
The lack of clear rhythm here really confuses the beginers.
chance8yes 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment. To clarify the rhythm of International style Rumba shown here, the music is 4/4 which means 4 beats to 1 bar of music, counting 1234. The dancer steps fwd (or back) on 2, replace on 3, & step side using 2 counts 4,1. This slow transfer of weight to the side is to emphasize body rhythm. A forward-replace-side is equal to quick-quick-slow. In American style Rumba box step, dancers step forward on 1 hold the 2, step side on 3, close on 4 (Slow-Quick-quick).
aanw97 3 years ago
thanks so much for all these nice break down of the various dances!
VyrtualX 4 years ago