Two Super Sophomores: Iverson vs Kobe - 1997/98

[may1989cn]

thanks for the vid!

[lionelangemario]

iverson at his best...clearly better than kobe at his best...no doubt.

[MrSantee2000]

game that no one talks about lol!

[BeefPapa]

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[theprofessor219]

A.I. = The Master

master of crossover

master of reverse lay-ups

master of pass

Master of Kobe

[theprofessor219]

HAHAHA, .where is Kobe???

[Disposable5]

hahahahaha.....whatever little man

[Elgin22Baylor]

This is old school. Jon Barry with a full head of hair? Most people now only know him as the crappy NBA on ABC analyst.  Not having AI around for the past couple of seasons makes you forget just how quick he was. Great upload

[kevin88251]

allen iverson iiz the man bro tha mii homeboii iigth there

[blakhope]

How Many Season Mvps u Have Means Nuthin, cause Honestly Jordan Should Have Like 9 Or 10 of them, An Kobe Should Have 4 or 5

[Flyguy13090]

the fresh prince is back in philly

[rusTITOrus]

i hate this commentary...

[jwilson770]

@ lionelangemario

You're correct...Kobe may have the rings (2 w/out Shaq)...but individually, AI was the better player...it was awesome watching on TV...but for some reason, in person, he was even more amazing...I can't say the same about Bryant...

[MrDmm1990]

@jwilson770 wooooooow kobe was and still is the better player ...this is you-he may have rings, more mvp, 2nd most scoring points in the nba, but a.i is still better

[rusTITOrus]

@MrDmm1990 Iverson...is the most talented player i have ever see play....if he had the size of kobe he would have been better that mj...but keep it real...kobe is just better...iverson was too skinny...small to win a championship...

[m3sexyballer]

@MrDmm1990 iverson been more scoring champs, they have equal mvps, real talk, if iverson was 6'6 we dont know what would happen so theres no point of saying if

[MrDmm1990]

@m3sexyballer but hes not 6'6 and kobe has more mvps ..he has the most mvp champions than any1 in the game today

[m3sexyballer]

@MrDmm1990 i know that i clearly said. && uhm no he doesnt. they both have 1 league mvp, ai in 2001. kobe in 2008. && if tim duncan hasnt retired then kobe does not have the most finals mvps,

[MrDmm1990]

@m3sexyballer he has the most all star mvp

[m3sexyballer]

@MrDmm1990 no one gives a shit about all star mvps, when ppl look at jordans career how many ppl you know "oh and he won this many all star game mvps" no one cares.

[MrDmm1990]

@m3sexyballer omg ...jordan only won 3 all star mvp ...you dont know shit about it ..kobe has the most all star mvp in the game today tide with someone else... and the all star games is a big thing alittle kid it show who the real mvp of the year

[m3sexyballer]

@MrDmm1990 all star mvps dont have shit to do with the real mvp. & i know mj won 3, i was using an example. i knw kobe has like 4. but no one cares. its all about league mvps. championships. maybe scoring titles. if you wanna count all star shit, then they really care about appearances. the only time they talk about a.s mvps is when a.s weekend approaches.same with finals mvp, they really juss care about if you won or not. thats why before kobe won another 2. theyd be like "well kobe a 3x champ

[MrDmm1990]

@m3sexyballer well kobe has more all star mvp than a.i ....next time comment on how you think iverson is a better player than him

[m3sexyballer]

@MrDmm1990 i didnt wanna have to go here but honestly. kobe juss recently got better than iverson. for a long time it was all about iverson. and still theres ppl who would say iversons the best from the 96 draft class.

[Disposable5]

@m3sexyballer Dude are you fuckin kidding.....Since about 2000 to 2001 every gm and every coach in the league have said that kobe bryant is the best in the league. Iverson was never a true leader, and he shot bad percentages.

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 . okay lets be honest, everybody says everybody is the best player in the league when they either have one great game, great week , great month , or great year. kobe's percentages were only higher cuz he got quality shots cuz he had SHAQ. iverson had role players. to be successful you need another star. look at any championship team and youll see there 2 stars. and to end this convo, everybody has their own opinion. i say iverson was better back then ,u say kobe, both great ballers

[Disposable5]

@m3sexyballer You dont know what your talking about.....after shaq left, kobes shooting percentage was pretty much the same.I agree with peoples own opinions but iverson did not do anything better then kobe back then.

And the fact that all the gm's and coaches said kobe was better. And on top of that, kobes defense was way better then iversons

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 i really do actually. btw if kobe was better than iverson, thats why kobe never got his 1st mvp til 08, iverson got his in 01 (one of the years kobe was better than him), and iverson averaged over 2 steals in like every season or every season, how the hell did he not play defense?? over 2 on his whole damn career. kobe played shit defense back then. and kobes percentage went down cuz he had to take more shots cuz the lakers were weak! same thign ai did his whole career.

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 iversons percentage went up when he went to go play with some talent with carmelo and the nuggets so yeah. oh yeah uhm. gm and coaches?? analysts gms, coachs, even players, say allen iverson was the best in his prime. iversons main prime was 98 to the 05-06 season. ppl didnt start saying kobe was all this and that next mj and shit till about 2006. thats some facts for yo ass

[Disposable5]

@m3sexyballer your an idiot dude.......there are plenty of websites that show every player stats in the history of the nba. Kobe was runner up for defensive player of the year award in 2000. Kobe has been 1st team defense many years. His percentage did not go down after shaq, if anything a shot lower in the 04-05 season. And yes every gm and coach said kobe was better, so do your research. I study the history of nba at my university, I can keep going and going to put you in your place.

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 bitch, youre retarded, i know more about basketball then you and i dont need a university to teach me. all that defensive team shit is a popularity contest , the league didnt like iverson cuz he was a :thug" and wasnt afraid to show it. yes in 05 when shaq left dumbass it did go down , maybe a lil bit but it stil went down. like i said before ppl say someone is the best after one great game, week, month, or year. and ppl switch off everytime. so dont give me no bullshit.

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 and i could go on && on to put your dumbass in your place. but then again you dont have a place cuz your not even a factor to me. so idk why im wasting my time with you. arguing over 2 great bball players?? future hof's and over youtube. hahahahaha worse your a grown ass man. whatta loser. get a life. byee

[Disposable5]

@m3sexyballer it sounds like you need a tampon or something. Yes they are both great, but I can supply thousands of more facts as to why kobe was better back then. You have said nothing to prove me wrong, and in fact alot of the claims you have made just show you dont really know what your talking about. People in my classes laugh at fans like you. You will never put me in my place you little punk ass

[m3sexyballer]

@Disposable5 & you need tissue, you piece of shit. ill give you facts, but i dont need to. if you were a real basketball fan then youd know iverson was better. if i neeeda put you bitch ass in place then i will, but clearly a waste of time. gtfo here

[theanklebreaker2]

@m3sexyballer i agree homie Iverson was way better than Kobe back then its no question, Kobe needed time to develop while Iverson was a natural born talent

[m3sexyballer]

@theanklebreaker2 .YES! EXACTLY! i am literally leaping for joy right now, im glad some people have some damn sense in this world.

[theanklebreaker2]

@m3sexyballer lol yes thats right. See Kobe Bryant was by far talented,but he needed more time to develop a jumper and learn the basics. Iverson was just an insane talent. Sure on the bad side he shot bad percentages, never played man to man defense but he still made up for his scoring and heart and willing to win. Plus Kobe never led a shit team to the finals like Iverson because Kobe had Shaq and Kobe fans seem to forget that. I love Kobe too but Iverson dominated since day 1

[m3sexyballer]

@theanklebreaker2 amen !!! well said!!! i wish people were more down to earth instead of on kobe's ballsack -____-, i like kobe too, but im juss bein straight up. iverson was better then

[HecticEthnic]

@m3sexyballer UR 100% RIGHT! im sick and tired of ppl talking about A.i's %, when he had to be his own playmaker, had to create his own shots, and the only time he ever got 2nd chances was with mutombo. kobe rode shaq's dick and got that shit, and EVEN his allstar games he rode on the back of the HUGE western allstars, so ASG dont mean shit! especially when EVERY1 knew he hogged the ball to get the trophy in the 2011 ASG. if ai had the wes squad he could get at least 6 asg mvp

[HecticEthnic]

@m3sexyballer not to mention a.i took the worst team to great heights and reached the finals, and he's a better scorer and passer than kobe. only his defence isnt as good, but it actually is against other PG's. since they put a.i as SG his defence looks shit, but he is the shortest SG in the league and possible all time. ppl dont EVER take proper things into account, stats dont mean shit.

every1 talked ai until he went to detroit. dumass kobe dickriders.

[m3sexyballer]

@HecticEthnic that honestly just made my evening, im glad some ppl in the world have some damn sense and actually look at all aspects of the situation!!

[lionelangemario]

if you take the two of them at their best levels each other...iverson is better than kobe...and i remember,kobe didn't like to play iverson...

[BlockStar10]

Damn i forgot how lame Kobe was.Could never guard Ivo.It wasn't until he got older and adopted Mj Im the best so i will guard the best .Still Could not guard that man doe.Lakers had a tuff team and sixers .Ihate that they gave Him two rings smh.

[alejandrothefader]

give kobe that team today and they would kill any of the teams today, even the three amigos or the dallas! this is being HARD... same with iverson i suppose, but he is not as near as fast as he was... but still solid...... in turkey!!? COME BACK AI

[alejandrothefader]

this is great, but gimme a break, the comentator sounds BORED, especially when iverson, a 5,8 ft tall guy dunks with ease, lol at least say smth on that...

[heydanbud]

@alejandrothefader he's 5'10 listed as 6ft.

[alejandrothefader]

@heydanbud kay man, i was wrong.... but still, the guy sounds too bored XD

[juicyj612]

This is so damn rare it's ridiculous. Thank you for posting this!!!!!

You won't find this anywhere.

[adventure1011y]

why does edy jones have the same number as kobe back then they both have 8 on

[heydanbud]

@adventure1011y yeah.... thats what i was wondering... wth?

[heydanbud]

@adventure1011y ohhhhh jones is number 6, it just looks like an 8

[aml031092]

little Jaden

[billyngchongwei]

the commentators from this time seems more talkative haha :D

[PlayerPunisher]

@billyngchongwei no, it was only chick hern who commentated that way. he is the best play by play commentator of all time

[Facefo23]

funy how back in the day players were diving for the ball fighting for it unlike now days

[barry759]

dude said Iverson got 2 speeds quick and quicker

[dparkertex]

man the nba is not what it used to be......the game was so much better then

[RTR9]

@dparkertex I think its better man honestly. Lakers vs Boston era goin on then everyone else. Miami's big three. Madison Square Garden is back and Rockin. Both Texas teams are winning. There is a stud on almost every team now. The point guards in the leauge are fucking dunking on centers. Kobe is going for number 6 that is a good storyline through the playoffs. I mean the leauge is back.

[wxsty]

if the lakers play around Kobe, he would easily average 25 points a game... he had way more talent than Eddie Jones

[chandthruk]

@wxsty yeah, but kobe was a different player then. He was a 19 year old kid, and he wasn't mature enough to build around yet. He used to jackup stupid shots. The kobe of today is a mature superstar who isn't the selfish player he used to be.

[willsmackyoudown]

LA had tons of talent on that team

[nonplayerzealot4]

Jon Barry. How'd he ever end up on the team I root for? What a pud.

[bballmemories]

"Iverson got two speeds: quick and quicker"...lol...only Chick Hearn can pull that off.

Remember this game like it was only yesterday, AI was known as a 6 foot MJ in college. Too bad age and bad attitude have caught up with him.

[alejandrothefader]

@bballmemories what he did though stays there, and it's not a mater of atitude as it is of the new nba "standards"

[ej2901]

Nice vid, u forget how sick iverson was

[luishenriquez]

R U kidding.... he was sick and playing like that!! Unbelievable!!

Great vid

[jxn23]

Wow - great game. A lot of intensity in this one especially for a regular season game!

[noxzorz]

4 years later they meet again in the Finals ;D cool vid