Waterboarding is not torture if utilized according to previous standards. Even if I believe the once accepted standards were laughable. I believe we should waterboard suspects in missing children cases as well. But I mean placing a damn caterpillar near a frikn' terrorist is absolutly embarassing to our country. I would be real scared to stand for 4 hrs. and receive stink eye during my inter. Cant forget the agressive double fisted shirt grab. No wrinkling though, thats too far!
This isn't news... "heated debate"?? where are the two sides? this is like a side and a half... the media does this all the time to slant the news away from true discussion by framing the opposition with in a certain context... if anybody in the government was involved in torture they should be prosecuted!! it's illegal... no, these idiot newscasters are more concerned with proving that they are "tough on criticism"... it's such horseshit
"Does torture work?" is not a valid question. Torture works if the following conditions are met:
1. The subject has the information that the torturer wants. Obviously torturing the wrong guy won't do any good.
2. The subject believes that the torturer has a way to detect false information and punish the subject with more torture. Without this, the subject could just lie.
3. The torture is sufficiently distressing. A tough subject can withstand a lot, but everyone has a breaking point.
Who the hell would ask if waterboarding is torture? Of course it is! Waterboarding, has been recognized as a torture technique since the time of Torquemada and the Spanish Inquisition! U.S. soldiers who were caught using it on enemy insurgents in the Philippines, in 1901, or the Vietnam War were prosecuted. When suffocation by water was used by foreign governments, such as the Augusto Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, the State Department didn't hesitate to call it torture!
This is a fake debate. There is no debate , waterboarding is torture, we have prosecuted other countries for using it. All you proponents of torture are a disgrace to this nation, and frankly sick bastards!
torture gets info and teaches the stne age savages to fear us. all you scum who hate america always try to coddle and surrender to our enemies. YOU ARE A DISGRACE!
The lying Republican/Democrat politician critters and the Federal Reserve,(which is neither federal or a reserve) fired up the printing press and printed, (counterfeited), trillions of dollars out of thin air.
The dollar is doomed.
The Bush Administration along with Obama and his, are criminals. IT'S AN ACT OF THEFT what has been done to our country by the government that "We The People" elected.
My fellow Americans, buy gold and buy lots of silver coins before its too late.
watching CNN right now... Obama Administration now believes that the interrogation photos should NOT be released... quite right Mr. President... being President is a tough job where tough decisions must be made in the defense of our troops and our tactics. I applaud you for this reversal... it is much more difficult to be President than it is to travel around on the campaign stump, trashing the sitting President and the strategic tactics being used to protect our great country...
Coulter's remarks about enemies who amputated limbs from American prisoners and put maggots in the wounds just shows what an uneducated bitch she is. She claims that that, rather than waterboarding is why so many war criminals were punished. She's an uneducated bitch. Maggots have been used for centuries to prevent gangrene by debriding necrotic flesh. It works and it saves lives. It gets valid results.
That judge needs her face slapped and her law school diploma burned if she has any doubts about waterboarding. I can see only one good use for the technique. Make the Coulter critter sign an agreement to have all her books and videos taken off the market if she cannot withstand two sessions.
(I.m betting that after the first, we will be forever spared that bone-faced, crow-voice harpies maunderings.)
rogfedserwil: an injection of truth serum is torture? How do you figure that? It's virtually painless. Inflicting mass amounts of pain on someone until they give you information is torture. And the info you might get is usually unreliable anyway. Torture victims will more often than not just make up something to escape the pain.
Now if these turds get away with this than any future president could do the same thing than tell u it was than and now an this and that.. and come up with excuses such as [9/11] ,, I say prosecute these fuckers to full extant of the law or they will be applying the same torture to u in the future and u cant do anything about it!
auh thats okay, it was 9/11 call, move forward bla bla bla.. what a sick bitches!
The bottom line is that, a president puts his hands on the bible and swears to defends the constitution of united state of America no matter what the circumstances are!
Many of those prisoners have nothing to do with terrorism rather they were in the wrong place at wrong time. or In battlefield because they believed they need to defend their countries just as anyone else would.
spungi - So many things to address from your one sentance: but, a few - For you to "forget" the time frame & circumstances is absurd. Not long after 9/11. These "few" (3) top level pukes tweaked were - saying soon you will see the next wave of attacks.
I would hold you responsible, like any other freak, who would rather have our contry attacked & people killed, than make a few terrorists uncomfortable for a while. They are "Unharmed" and continue living w/ all their parts. You shame yourself!
Water Boarding is a Techniques that PUSSY, CHICKEN HAWKS like to DEFEND, because they have NO BALLS, and they rather have a Little Security, at the Price of a Ton of Liberty.
And as Ben said, " They who can give up essential LIBERTY to obtain a little temporary SAFETY, DESERVE NEITHER Liberty nor Safety..
Since moral arguments seem to have no meaning for you, what about the best interests of the country? Torture sets up a horrible precedent for America, it mangles our reputation, and Terrorists can use it as a massive Recruiting tool, to create...MORE TERRORISTS.
So even if you have no problem with the Ethics, maybe you can still understand self preservation.
SATAN - The only time we have a good "reputation" is when the Democrats are in charge. No matter what they do, there is justification - and media spins the coverage, or avoids it to give them cover.
However, any time the Republicans are in power - practically every action has some neocon, agressive compulsive disorder label put on it . To paint them as the one's who damage our "reputation".
Self preservation also includes knowing these people don't need reasons - they have religion.
moral arguments are fine, howerver, all Ive seen from you is name calling. Its not torture to put someone in a cold room. Lets see, they cut peoples heads off and send the tape to their mothers , but they are so outraged that we slapped someone that they might do something bad. Thats a silly argument.
fair and balanced... without a single liberal on the panel. great job as usual, fox. at least someone disagreed with Coulter when she said we didn't hold the Japanese accountable for waterboarding.
What was up with that blonde dude's voice? Cut back on the cig's, plz
"Waterboarding is usually real drowning that simulates death. The victim experiences the sensations of drowning: struggle,panic,breath-holding, swallowing,vomiting,taking water into the lungs and,eventually,the same feeling of not being able to breathe that one experiences after being punched in the gut.The main difference is that the drowning process is halted. According to those who have studied waterboarding's effects,it can cause severe psychological trauma, such as panic attacks,for years"
In 1983, Texas Sheriff James Parker was charged, along with three of his deputies, for handcuffing prisoners to chairs, placing towels over their faces, and pouring water on the cloth until they gave what the officers considered to be confessions. The sheriff and his deputies were all convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.
We hanged Japanese for waterboarding American soldiers during WWII. Torture is illegal, immoral no matter who does it or when it is done. Pre 911 or post 911 makes no difference. Torture is wrong every time, any where at anytime by whoever does it. There are no exceptions. Nobody is above the rule of law.
There are national and international laws against torture. Waterboarding is accepted around the world as torture. There is no reason or excuse for torture. It is simply wrong, illegal and immoral.
It's funny how Iraq was invaded because of possible WMD, it turned out it was not so. Thus, the only remaining valid reason for the Iraq invasion (according to the Bush team) was that Saddam was a dictator not respecting human rights, torturing etc. So now some people want's USA to condone torture? It kindof puts you in the same category as Saddam's Iraq. That would be profoundly unworthy for the "greatest democracy in the world". So, then, what makes Bush diffrent from Saddam?
do your research before you spew falsehoods, people have been murdered by us during interrogations. Use your brain. Also bush said we invaded because they would not let the weapons inspectors in, Newsflash dumbass, they were in!!!
You post half facts. Sadaam did have weapons in 1992 and his WMD program ceased well before Iraq was invaded according to the UN. Upon inspection, no WMD's were ever found, nuclear, biological, or chemical.
OOHH!!!, it ceased, well, we are so glad you are hear to tell us these things. are you sadddams WMD chief?? or the ghost of saddam?? NO?? then you dont know shit but we KNOW HE DID HAVE THEM IN 1991, you fucking liar
Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said they had weapons in 1992 and was forced to cease by the UN. An inspection proved that there were no weapons upon being forced to cease and a weapons inspection in 2003 proves that there were no weapons. This is all public knowledge. Educate youself, ignorance is not bliss.
The UN forced Iraq to end its weapons program and upon an inspection there were no weapons. More than 2 inspections were done and there were no weapons! You need the education because all you have are right wing talking points with no facts. Also, all you can do is resort to personal attacks which is stupid.
Well, Rethuglican where are they?! I distinctly remember Rumsfeld saying they knew where they were! Bottomlin eis that they didn't have any and it was a bullshit excuse.
you are an american hater, by refusing to put american lives and interests first , you prove you dont care and wish to destroy those things which bind us together as a people. GO back to RIYADH and suck off prince ali bin asswipe, TRAITOR!!
How does Cheney think that evidence of results is evidence that water-boarding isnt torture? People will tell you anything if they think they are about to die.
John McCain reminded people Thursday that some Japanese were tried and hanged for torturing American prisoners during World War II with techniques that included waterboarding.
why anybody would let that lying bitch coulter on their show is beyond me.
Why dont we just behead and stone these bastards like they do to our prisoners, or hang them from bridges or drag them around town and then burn them in front of everybody?
We are becoming a nation of liberal pussys, the rest of the world is laughing at this and planning the next attack.
newBelGum...Agree..Finally someone on this site with commen sense to realize what these "innocent TERRORISTS'" HAVE DONE, and will continue to do so...Many in this nation are becoming Bleeding Heart Wuses....if these terrorists did these horrific "tortures" to many of peoples family or friends, Commenting here...I'd like to see what they would do about it...Hold hands with the enemies, and sing 'KUM BA HA??
First, I am not sure what the term "innocent terrorist" means? Someone is either innocent or a terrorist, you can't be both. So if we assume that Cheney and Bush could have started the Iraq war under false pretenses they could be responsible for the unnecessary death of thousands of americans (just young kids), and hundreds of thousands of Iraqians. Is that not equal to terrorism? Not worth waterbording, to find out the truth?
Nancy Pelosi who quietly agreed to strip out of the $100 billion funding bill for Iraq a provision that would have required President Bush to seek congressional approval before launching any new war on Iran.
...by the way, if waterboarding is such a harmless and effective technique why can't the police use it when they interrogate ordinary criminals, such as killers, rapists etc?
First they do waterboard soldiers (navy seals) as part of their training. Using a tazer is considered harmless and effective, the police us it everyday but according to the UN it is considered torture. So what is your point?
...sure under controlled conditions for educational purposes, but not 183 times. Besides, tazing is not used for interrogation. You are of course allowed to use much more brutal force to protect yourself, than in an interrogation. So your comparison is not at all fair, like comparing apples and ....vending machines.
The interrogations were done under controlled conditions . Lets bottom line this. If someone had information that could keep your child from being murdered, how far would you go to get the information? You can be all holier than thou all you want but tell me that you would let your child die before you waterboarded someone.
I would not mind if they chopped the source of information in small pieces in that case. Or worked him/her over with a flame torch. But, this is why we have a legal system, because if we would let ourselves behave like animals in that situation we are no longer civilized. This is why we have rule of law, the court decides the punishment, we have certain interrogation principles etc. We as a society have a greater responsibility than individuals in the spur of the moment.
fox news as a whole doesn't like these memos. somehow, Geraldo is against torture, but also against prosecuting the people who mandated these techniques? please... the bush administration will be held accountable, as they should.
I always knew that Fox is spreading the ideology of right-wing crime, but i never thought someone on here would say there balanced, i mean i do not know whether to be mad at this user or send him to a doctor. Anyway, i hope there comes a day that your closes family are being water boarded for over 200 times
they had a room 101 from 1984 where they enacted some prisoners greatest fears of claustrophobia and stinging insects by stuffing him in a small box and dropping bugs in through a small hole
you can't be serious. You show me this vid and I will tell you why it is not the technique we used. I know this without even seeing the video because I have seen someone waterboarded using the techniques we do and they WERE NOT LAUGHING. They were screaming and panicing. After it was over they said it was one of the worst feelings they had ever experienced and were obviously very affected by the process.
The truth-telling Coulter was silenced for attempting to expose yet another liberal canard.
First, the slanty-eyed Jap in question was NOT executed solely for waterboarding. Truth be told, the zipper-headed sadist was found guilty of a multitude of abuses.
Also, the Japanese employed a life-threatening version of waterboarding, and there were most certainly NO doctors present to monitor the health of the prisoner during its practice.
Coulter appears to be the only one of these talking heads that actually read the memos. Agree with her or not, she is obviously the most intellegent person speaking in this video.
HeathenRage - Right.... it is all a Right-Wing-Conspiricy. It is some sort of plan for world domination...
Are you nuts? Fox news has been rated as the most neutral broadcaster of all cable news networks. This has been shown over and over by many studies by various organizations.
HeathenRage- I think we are commenting on different things. My comment is about Fox News. You are writing about Faux news.
Fox News claims to be "Fair and Balanced." There have been studies showing that when compared to MSNBC, CNN. CBS, NBC, and ABC, Fox News is more balanced in their coverage. These studies look at the news, not the commentary. CNN usually comes out as the news that is most believed by viewers.
HeathenRage - are you asking if there is absolute non-biased reporting? Of course not! Not even the weather channel can do that. By choosing what they report and how they report they are making value judgments on the importance of issues.
My point is that Fox News was rated as more balanced than others. That is a simple point.
You have some sort of Left Wing brainwashing going on and therefor will not accept the fact the Fox News actually looked better than other news in a study.
HeathenRage - There have been many studies. National Review, Harvard, LA Times, and many more. Of course there is no absolute anything. This is not some Socialist Utopia! The point is that study after study gives Fox News a better rating at being less baised.
But, if you want to contiune your Moon Bat ranting, go ahead. You seem unable to understand the nuances of the real world. Better or worse, more or less, these are words describing the varying degrees to which you fail to comprehend.
A, study, becomes many studies...then you cite the names of a few rags I'm sure you don't read, but no study.
Then you speak of a Socialist Utopia? And then you call me a moonbat ranter? Because you know you didn't read any study, you are just repeating something you swallowed without confirming it's validity.
Let's waterboard Ann Coulter 200 times, deprive her with sleep for 11 days and forced her to nudity (disgusting) with a bunch of German shperds biting her in the ass .... I'm pretty sure she will change her mind about tortures and she might stop going on TV as Miss NOBODY saying BS every time she talks.
Ann lets strap you to a 1000lb steel ball and drop it in lake Michigan, hey if you float we know you are a witch. LOL Torture worked even in the inquisition. Ann you are wearing the red slippers of Dorothy aren't you... LOL Don't let a house fall on ya!
She says that torture has been going on for thousands of yrs to get information. But it doesn't work, people will say anything to stop the torture. 189 it is so sad to hear these people justify torture.
Holy shit those are 3 of the most annoying women I've ever seen. lol
Also it was 183 not 83 times in a month and waterboarding is torture. Each one was only 10-20 sec as Ann says but 20 sec of waterboarding has got to be pretty long.
I must correct myself on the next terrorist plot that was foiled..not the Liberty Tower in New York..but the Liberty Towers in New Jersey..look it up on the internet..they almost look like the Twin Towers..2 large beautiful buildings, with business offices and apartments..Thank God they weren't destroyed by these innocent TERRORISTS...
Definition of a TERRORIST..One who commits violent and destructive acts to intiminate a people or goverment..inspires fear..i.e. Detainees at GITMO....
Everyone... Stop being a BUNCH OF BLEEDING HEARTS... These creatures got what they deserved...U can't reason with them.. They DO Not abide by the Geneva Convention..The Horrific Brutality they have inflicted on their own Citizens and our Troops should make everyone sick to their stomachs..What our military did was Not Torture..nothing Compared to what they have done...our enhanced interrogations foiled many future plots to Kill more Americans..Wake up..We're not dealing with street punks!!!
yoshcout..1 Large plot.( and others)..The Liberty Tower in New York... Remember not only did they destroy The Twin Towers, where 3,000 Innocent Americans were killed..destroyed much of the Pentagon..but their real OBJECTIVE was to destroy THE WHITE HOUSE.. Do u want THEM, to destroy more of the U.S.?? Do u want them to come here, and rape,Slowly Torture us ( they are experts at that) Behead us? I don't know about u, but I certainly don't!!
fagofAmerica, you're lying. They didn't stop *one plot* - it was specifically meant to get false confessions from people, and to get perverts like yourself all excited by the idea of torturing people.
CarryANation...It's Obvious that your Peabrain Couldn't Comprehend my Comments about these "so called tortures" and about what your Terrorist Buddies were Planning to do Against My Country....Carry ANation..that's what u call yourself? Go carry Iran.. Venezula.. Cuba.. U Anti-American Communistic Asshole!!! Get the Hell out of The U.S..Traitor, go these countries.. and I Hope They BEHEAD trash like U!!
post 9-11 Torture is disgusting !!! Guantanamo has to be shut down !!!!!! The USA have no moral lesson to give to other countries
FyreBalletDancer 6 months ago
Waterboarding is not torture if utilized according to previous standards. Even if I believe the once accepted standards were laughable. I believe we should waterboard suspects in missing children cases as well. But I mean placing a damn caterpillar near a frikn' terrorist is absolutly embarassing to our country. I would be real scared to stand for 4 hrs. and receive stink eye during my inter. Cant forget the agressive double fisted shirt grab. No wrinkling though, thats too far!
kko180 1 year ago
@kko180 Maybe we should waterboard you, moron.
SuperShakespeare1 4 months ago
Ann Coulter doesn't let anyone get a word in. I wanted to hear more of Jeanine Pirro.
darepow 1 year ago
i doubt any of them have been waterboarded
Dpesh7 1 year ago
Ann Coulter cannot let anyone speak jeez
Insanefreaked 1 year ago
ann coulter needs to be waterboarded
haywardgirl3 1 year ago
2:34 this person sounds like a female Dick Morris.
13lackLight 1 year ago
Ah yes, a Christian in favour of torture. Nice one Coulter.
Resenbrink 1 year ago
This isn't news... "heated debate"?? where are the two sides? this is like a side and a half... the media does this all the time to slant the news away from true discussion by framing the opposition with in a certain context... if anybody in the government was involved in torture they should be prosecuted!! it's illegal... no, these idiot newscasters are more concerned with proving that they are "tough on criticism"... it's such horseshit
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"Does torture work?" is not a valid question. Torture works if the following conditions are met:
1. The subject has the information that the torturer wants. Obviously torturing the wrong guy won't do any good.
2. The subject believes that the torturer has a way to detect false information and punish the subject with more torture. Without this, the subject could just lie.
3. The torture is sufficiently distressing. A tough subject can withstand a lot, but everyone has a breaking point.
BillTheWaterDrinker 1 year ago
Estrich has a penis.
canadaeast 2 years ago
WTF what an embarrassment, The only thing the blondie looks good for is BJ, she is acts like a kid...
ThinkforUrself 2 years ago
They argue like middle school kids in a playground, very unprofessional.
joeboi85 2 years ago 2
I think Susan Estrich should have worn a big bird costume here. I would like to have heard that voice coming out of the big yellow bird
bush1tman 2 years ago
@bush1tman well hopefully your mom and kids get throat cancer and then sound like that you prick
Ovito85 1 year ago
@Ovito85 My mom is dead. And I ate my kids.
bush1tman 1 year ago
@bush1tman good for her and ur brats, may they all burn!
Ovito85 1 year ago
@Ovito85 At least they weren't faggoty ass niggers like you.
bush1tman 1 year ago
@bush1tman lolol, your mom didnt tell you did she? You are half nigger now she is burning.
Ovito85 1 year ago
@Ovito85 I'll let my 13 year old nephew answer you from now on little boy. LOL
bush1tman 1 year ago
@bush1tman i have no problem with that, for soon he shall also burn, and in hell, he will have his eyes eaten over and over again and again.....
Ovito85 1 year ago
@bush1tman let them burn
Ovito85 1 year ago
Ann Coulter = owned
tribefan011 2 years ago
Who the hell would ask if waterboarding is torture? Of course it is! Waterboarding, has been recognized as a torture technique since the time of Torquemada and the Spanish Inquisition! U.S. soldiers who were caught using it on enemy insurgents in the Philippines, in 1901, or the Vietnam War were prosecuted. When suffocation by water was used by foreign governments, such as the Augusto Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, the State Department didn't hesitate to call it torture!
FURepublicans 2 years ago
Let's waterboard this btich for a 10 seconds at a time on 83 occasions in one month and see what she thinks then - fucking skank
Resenbrink 2 years ago
This is a fake debate. There is no debate , waterboarding is torture, we have prosecuted other countries for using it. All you proponents of torture are a disgrace to this nation, and frankly sick bastards!
michaeljfo 2 years ago
like the shitslams obey the geneva convention
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
This is a fake debate. There is no debate .
torture gets info and teaches the stne age savages to fear us. all you scum who hate america always try to coddle and surrender to our enemies. YOU ARE A DISGRACE!
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
This just in... the nation debt clock exploded.... but keep watching people, of not power, debate torture.
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
The lying Republican/Democrat politician critters and the Federal Reserve,(which is neither federal or a reserve) fired up the printing press and printed, (counterfeited), trillions of dollars out of thin air.
The dollar is doomed.
The Bush Administration along with Obama and his, are criminals. IT'S AN ACT OF THEFT what has been done to our country by the government that "We The People" elected.
My fellow Americans, buy gold and buy lots of silver coins before its too late.
1514dustin 2 years ago
First they're releasing photos then they're not. Im soo glad they changed their minds about releasing them now that everyones curiosity went away.
herodotall 2 years ago
watching CNN right now... Obama Administration now believes that the interrogation photos should NOT be released... quite right Mr. President... being President is a tough job where tough decisions must be made in the defense of our troops and our tactics. I applaud you for this reversal... it is much more difficult to be President than it is to travel around on the campaign stump, trashing the sitting President and the strategic tactics being used to protect our great country...
PuppyBuoyancy 2 years ago
Coulter's remarks about enemies who amputated limbs from American prisoners and put maggots in the wounds just shows what an uneducated bitch she is. She claims that that, rather than waterboarding is why so many war criminals were punished. She's an uneducated bitch. Maggots have been used for centuries to prevent gangrene by debriding necrotic flesh. It works and it saves lives. It gets valid results.
Waterboarding gets nuns hanged for witch craft.
leftysergeant 2 years ago
That judge needs her face slapped and her law school diploma burned if she has any doubts about waterboarding. I can see only one good use for the technique. Make the Coulter critter sign an agreement to have all her books and videos taken off the market if she cannot withstand two sessions.
(I.m betting that after the first, we will be forever spared that bone-faced, crow-voice harpies maunderings.)
leftysergeant 2 years ago
rogfedserwil: an injection of truth serum is torture? How do you figure that? It's virtually painless. Inflicting mass amounts of pain on someone until they give you information is torture. And the info you might get is usually unreliable anyway. Torture victims will more often than not just make up something to escape the pain.
steverob79 2 years ago
Since Ann Coulter does not believe it is torture I wonder if she will undergo water boarding to see whats it like for herself ?
Redshift21 2 years ago
Because it's not as much fun!
suskil 2 years ago
why doesn't anyone use truth serum instead of torture?
steverob79 2 years ago
hmmmm..... cause injecting people with chemicals is torture?!?!?!
rogfedserwil 2 years ago
the title says this was a debate... where was the debate? everyone on that panel was fine with torturing captives.
gaudeo 2 years ago 2
The funny thing about most, if not all, these idiots who defend torture is they call themselves Christians!
Could you see Jesus with a M-16 strapped over his shoulder waterboarding someone? LOL!!
FOX News & the Christian drones who watch FOX would call Jesus a SOCIALIST LIBERAL who would make America less safe! LOL!
SkyDaddy7 2 years ago
future generations will look at these people unkindly.
anarchyclayman 2 years ago
Is waterboarding torture?
Yes
Does it work?
No
What about the memos?
Proof the Bush administration was composed of war criminals.
And what did Pelosi know?
I dunno but the Democrats would've been too spineless to stop it.
Joe402 2 years ago
Now if these turds get away with this than any future president could do the same thing than tell u it was than and now an this and that.. and come up with excuses such as [9/11] ,, I say prosecute these fuckers to full extant of the law or they will be applying the same torture to u in the future and u cant do anything about it!
Cyberbeem 2 years ago
auh thats okay, it was 9/11 call, move forward bla bla bla.. what a sick bitches!
The bottom line is that, a president puts his hands on the bible and swears to defends the constitution of united state of America no matter what the circumstances are!
Many of those prisoners have nothing to do with terrorism rather they were in the wrong place at wrong time. or In battlefield because they believed they need to defend their countries just as anyone else would.
Cyberbeem 2 years ago
Why is the GOP so bloodthirsty?
kcp12304 2 years ago
Is Susan Estrich a South Park character?
PleaseGimmeAName 2 years ago 2
I think Ann Coulter should try waterboarding, like Hitchens did. She shouldn't be allowed to speak until she have tried it a dozen times herself.
piscesgutt 2 years ago
RIP GOP
dman71215 2 years ago
"RIP GOP"
And good riddance.
Maybe if they are reborn as actual CONSERVATIVES, rather than CONservatives, they will be welcomed back, if not, they can Rot.
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
shame the US resorted to torture what has our country become.
spungii117 2 years ago
spungi - So many things to address from your one sentance: but, a few - For you to "forget" the time frame & circumstances is absurd. Not long after 9/11. These "few" (3) top level pukes tweaked were - saying soon you will see the next wave of attacks.
I would hold you responsible, like any other freak, who would rather have our contry attacked & people killed, than make a few terrorists uncomfortable for a while. They are "Unharmed" and continue living w/ all their parts. You shame yourself!
right4us 2 years ago
Theres other ways to get information.
spungii117 2 years ago
the second woman sounds like a man
Pho767 2 years ago
Water Boarding is a Techniques that PUSSY, CHICKEN HAWKS like to DEFEND, because they have NO BALLS, and they rather have a Little Security, at the Price of a Ton of Liberty.
And as Ben said, " They who can give up essential LIBERTY to obtain a little temporary SAFETY, DESERVE NEITHER Liberty nor Safety..
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
Water Board Ann, and any other Bitch that likes Torture.
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
No one cares about the liberty of terrorist. But I am sure they are happy you are fighting so hard for them.
SenorStrange 2 years ago
Thousands of detainees weren't even Terrorists, and they had to be released, yet they were still Tortured.
Are you proud of this?
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
We didnt torture anyone. Maybe you should define your idea of torture. If you are talking about water boarding..we did that to one guy.
SenorStrange 2 years ago
Since moral arguments seem to have no meaning for you, what about the best interests of the country? Torture sets up a horrible precedent for America, it mangles our reputation, and Terrorists can use it as a massive Recruiting tool, to create...MORE TERRORISTS.
So even if you have no problem with the Ethics, maybe you can still understand self preservation.
SATANSbankers 2 years ago
SATAN - The only time we have a good "reputation" is when the Democrats are in charge. No matter what they do, there is justification - and media spins the coverage, or avoids it to give them cover.
However, any time the Republicans are in power - practically every action has some neocon, agressive compulsive disorder label put on it . To paint them as the one's who damage our "reputation".
Self preservation also includes knowing these people don't need reasons - they have religion.
right4us 2 years ago
moral arguments are fine, howerver, all Ive seen from you is name calling. Its not torture to put someone in a cold room. Lets see, they cut peoples heads off and send the tape to their mothers , but they are so outraged that we slapped someone that they might do something bad. Thats a silly argument.
SenorStrange 2 years ago
the american government definitely tortures
Ndugga 2 years ago
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good!!
they arent protected by the geneva convention , so who cares
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
how is it a good thing that the U.S. tortures?
Ndugga 2 years ago
fair and balanced... without a single liberal on the panel. great job as usual, fox. at least someone disagreed with Coulter when she said we didn't hold the Japanese accountable for waterboarding.
What was up with that blonde dude's voice? Cut back on the cig's, plz
KornWasCool 2 years ago
These people are in a state of confusion and madness.
1 + 1 = 2
interrogation = interrogation
Torture = torture
jellyjam10534 2 years ago
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jellyjam10534 2 years ago
I wish that cross around Colter's neck would light on fire and engulf her
onemanband1963 2 years ago
"Waterboarding is usually real drowning that simulates death. The victim experiences the sensations of drowning: struggle,panic,breath-holding, swallowing,vomiting,taking water into the lungs and,eventually,the same feeling of not being able to breathe that one experiences after being punched in the gut.The main difference is that the drowning process is halted. According to those who have studied waterboarding's effects,it can cause severe psychological trauma, such as panic attacks,for years"
allamericanboys2001 2 years ago
You are right! We didn't shoot the Japanese soldiers. We convicted them and sentenced them to 15 years hard labor.
I'm sorry, the shooting was false, but water boarding is torture and is a crime.
Thx for the good eye, it made me do more research and find out the truth.
Water boarding is torture :)
allamericanboys2001 2 years ago
SHE'S A MAN BABY !!!!!
coulter and estrich
Estrich? (Estrogen?)
whitecollarcriminal 2 years ago
Fuck I wish they would waterboard Coulter.
UnkleSi 2 years ago
Fkn whitewash... Oh so heated (sarc).
larryhoganandthesuga 2 years ago
In 1983, Texas Sheriff James Parker was charged, along with three of his deputies, for handcuffing prisoners to chairs, placing towels over their faces, and pouring water on the cloth until they gave what the officers considered to be confessions. The sheriff and his deputies were all convicted and sentenced to four years in prison.
lota68 2 years ago
We hanged Japanese for waterboarding American soldiers during WWII. Torture is illegal, immoral no matter who does it or when it is done. Pre 911 or post 911 makes no difference. Torture is wrong every time, any where at anytime by whoever does it. There are no exceptions. Nobody is above the rule of law.
chairde 2 years ago 2
There is no law against what we did to the terrorist. The Japanese did far more than water boarding, they gutted our soldiers.
SenorStrange 2 years ago
There are national and international laws against torture. Waterboarding is accepted around the world as torture. There is no reason or excuse for torture. It is simply wrong, illegal and immoral.
chairde 2 years ago 2
It's funny how Iraq was invaded because of possible WMD, it turned out it was not so. Thus, the only remaining valid reason for the Iraq invasion (according to the Bush team) was that Saddam was a dictator not respecting human rights, torturing etc. So now some people want's USA to condone torture? It kindof puts you in the same category as Saddam's Iraq. That would be profoundly unworthy for the "greatest democracy in the world". So, then, what makes Bush diffrent from Saddam?
lota68 2 years ago
Saddam torture = throwing people off of buildings and dropping them in trash shredders. (killing them)
USA torture = speaking loudly, putting people in cold rooms and dunking the heads in water. (making them uncomfortable)
You cannot seriously be comparing the two.
also, we invaded Iraq because they did not follow the cease fire agreement we had made with them in the first Iraq war. In other words , "THE LAW"
You America haters make the most ridiculous arguments.
SenorStrange 2 years ago
Is that why the CIA destroyed the tapes
covertbabo12 2 years ago
do your research before you spew falsehoods, people have been murdered by us during interrogations. Use your brain. Also bush said we invaded because they would not let the weapons inspectors in, Newsflash dumbass, they were in!!!
michaeljfo 2 years ago
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no , terrorists have been killed while being interrogated by nonUS citizens
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
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NEWSFLASH LIBTARD: no they werent
FACT: weapons of mass destruction are nuclear biological and chemical
FACT: saddam used them on the kurds in north iraq in 1992
therefore, FACT: he had weapons of mass destruction
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT,LIBTARD!!!
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
You post half facts. Sadaam did have weapons in 1992 and his WMD program ceased well before Iraq was invaded according to the UN. Upon inspection, no WMD's were ever found, nuclear, biological, or chemical.
FURepublicans 2 years ago
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OOHH!!!, it ceased, well, we are so glad you are hear to tell us these things. are you sadddams WMD chief?? or the ghost of saddam?? NO?? then you dont know shit but we KNOW HE DID HAVE THEM IN 1991, you fucking liar
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said they had weapons in 1992 and was forced to cease by the UN. An inspection proved that there were no weapons upon being forced to cease and a weapons inspection in 2003 proves that there were no weapons. This is all public knowledge. Educate youself, ignorance is not bliss.
FURepublicans 2 years ago
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forced to cease??
what does that mean??
did the UN wave its magic wand and make the chemicals disappear??
i know being a libtard destroys common sense but you must have a few scraps left. get an education you idiot
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
The UN forced Iraq to end its weapons program and upon an inspection there were no weapons. More than 2 inspections were done and there were no weapons! You need the education because all you have are right wing talking points with no facts. Also, all you can do is resort to personal attacks which is stupid.
FURepublicans 2 years ago
so , because they didnt find WMDs , they dont exist!!
wow!! typical libtard logic
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
Well, Rethuglican where are they?! I distinctly remember Rumsfeld saying they knew where they were! Bottomlin eis that they didn't have any and it was a bullshit excuse.
FURepublicans 2 years ago
you are the America hater , by disregarding the laws that define America. Go back to your basement and pull the legs off spiders. You are scum
michaeljfo 2 years ago
you are an american hater, by refusing to put american lives and interests first , you prove you dont care and wish to destroy those things which bind us together as a people. GO back to RIYADH and suck off prince ali bin asswipe, TRAITOR!!
CamelsAssBangMohmed 2 years ago
They refer to 'the bad guys'. Says it all really.
adamfruitcake 2 years ago
How does Cheney think that evidence of results is evidence that water-boarding isnt torture? People will tell you anything if they think they are about to die.
adamfruitcake 2 years ago
How the fuck was this a debate? They all agreed! This was a BS Fox "debate"! These people are horrible people. They are fucking justifying torture!!!
akfak0retlaw 2 years ago 3
John McCain reminded people Thursday that some Japanese were tried and hanged for torturing American prisoners during World War II with techniques that included waterboarding.
why anybody would let that lying bitch coulter on their show is beyond me.
maunaowakea777 2 years ago
ann coulter is a cunt, but id still do here
nohindrance 2 years ago
She's a man baby!
HeathenRage 2 years ago 2
Waterboarding is proven 100% effective ...
At confessing witches........
Bring back the Inquisition !!!!!!!
BJrob 2 years ago
Why dont we just behead and stone these bastards like they do to our prisoners, or hang them from bridges or drag them around town and then burn them in front of everybody?
We are becoming a nation of liberal pussys, the rest of the world is laughing at this and planning the next attack.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA
newBelGum 2 years ago
newBelGum...Agree..Finally someone on this site with commen sense to realize what these "innocent TERRORISTS'" HAVE DONE, and will continue to do so...Many in this nation are becoming Bleeding Heart Wuses....if these terrorists did these horrific "tortures" to many of peoples family or friends, Commenting here...I'd like to see what they would do about it...Hold hands with the enemies, and sing 'KUM BA HA??
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
First, I am not sure what the term "innocent terrorist" means? Someone is either innocent or a terrorist, you can't be both. So if we assume that Cheney and Bush could have started the Iraq war under false pretenses they could be responsible for the unnecessary death of thousands of americans (just young kids), and hundreds of thousands of Iraqians. Is that not equal to terrorism? Not worth waterbording, to find out the truth?
lota68 2 years ago
Ann,
We shot Japanese soldiers for water boarding our soldiers!
We thought it was torture back then why do we think it's not torture now, because WE are doing it?
allamericanboys2001 2 years ago 4
This is America we don't torture! It doesn't matter if we got good information or not!
allamericanboys2001 2 years ago 3
coulter is ugly inside and out
thorn9apc 2 years ago
Nancy Pelosi who quietly agreed to strip out of the $100 billion funding bill for Iraq a provision that would have required President Bush to seek congressional approval before launching any new war on Iran.
Because AIPAC asked her to.
She is a traitor
watch?v=iWLBhgTQ46o
WashMitt 2 years ago
Coulter is a good man
WashMitt 2 years ago
...by the way, if waterboarding is such a harmless and effective technique why can't the police use it when they interrogate ordinary criminals, such as killers, rapists etc?
lota68 2 years ago
First they do waterboard soldiers (navy seals) as part of their training. Using a tazer is considered harmless and effective, the police us it everyday but according to the UN it is considered torture. So what is your point?
sbsane 2 years ago
...sure under controlled conditions for educational purposes, but not 183 times. Besides, tazing is not used for interrogation. You are of course allowed to use much more brutal force to protect yourself, than in an interrogation. So your comparison is not at all fair, like comparing apples and ....vending machines.
lota68 2 years ago
The interrogations were done under controlled conditions . Lets bottom line this. If someone had information that could keep your child from being murdered, how far would you go to get the information? You can be all holier than thou all you want but tell me that you would let your child die before you waterboarded someone.
sbsane 2 years ago
I would not mind if they chopped the source of information in small pieces in that case. Or worked him/her over with a flame torch. But, this is why we have a legal system, because if we would let ourselves behave like animals in that situation we are no longer civilized. This is why we have rule of law, the court decides the punishment, we have certain interrogation principles etc. We as a society have a greater responsibility than individuals in the spur of the moment.
lota68 2 years ago 2
Watch taxi to the dark side if you truly believe your statement...
dtaijo174 2 years ago
I saw it on Torrent. Maybe you should watch the beheadings of Americans Eugene Armstrong and Nick Berg. I still stand by my statement.
sbsane 2 years ago
I would rather be killed than tortured....You can only cut my head off once.
HeathenRage 2 years ago
To those of you who think that waterboarding is no big deal, would it be okay if american soldiers were waterboarded then?
lota68 2 years ago
fox news as a whole doesn't like these memos. somehow, Geraldo is against torture, but also against prosecuting the people who mandated these techniques? please... the bush administration will be held accountable, as they should.
illxplicit07 2 years ago
OH MY GOD;SUSAN ESTRICH MADE SENSE!
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
Coulter is a tool.
KirbyNp 2 years ago
NO ONE has ever given ON THE RECORD testimony that torture is an effective method of interrogation...
to me...that says a lot more than off the record criminals like cheney trying to justify their crimes by saying it worked even if it was illegal...
mcalien24 2 years ago
I always knew that Fox is spreading the ideology of right-wing crime, but i never thought someone on here would say there balanced, i mean i do not know whether to be mad at this user or send him to a doctor. Anyway, i hope there comes a day that your closes family are being water boarded for over 200 times
Trevolution1 2 years ago
You can find funny vids of people getting waterboarded on Youtube, then laughing about it after.
Torture is such a strong word that should not be applied to this college humor pastime.
Obama is going to outlaw it though and just use dunk tanks
motherlegion6 2 years ago
Then obviously it doesn't work if people were laughing about. So why do it anyway?
btownhotties 2 years ago
they had a room 101 from 1984 where they enacted some prisoners greatest fears of claustrophobia and stinging insects by stuffing him in a small box and dropping bugs in through a small hole
MarkG45 2 years ago
you can't be serious. You show me this vid and I will tell you why it is not the technique we used. I know this without even seeing the video because I have seen someone waterboarded using the techniques we do and they WERE NOT LAUGHING. They were screaming and panicing. After it was over they said it was one of the worst feelings they had ever experienced and were obviously very affected by the process.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
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motherlegion6 2 years ago
What the hell kind of "college" did you go to - San Francisco S&M University?
CarryANation 2 years ago
Did Ann say "You can't do anything to a citizen?"
JMillion 2 years ago
Waterboarding is hi-larious. It's also very Earth-friendly. It just uses a little water, which can be recycled many times.
Gourry334 2 years ago
What is torture? There is various forms of it. Dieing is easy, living is what's hard.
bondobooty 2 years ago
The truth-telling Coulter was silenced for attempting to expose yet another liberal canard.
First, the slanty-eyed Jap in question was NOT executed solely for waterboarding. Truth be told, the zipper-headed sadist was found guilty of a multitude of abuses.
Also, the Japanese employed a life-threatening version of waterboarding, and there were most certainly NO doctors present to monitor the health of the prisoner during its practice.
patsagainstrats 2 years ago
roll them in pig shit then torure the hell out of them then impail them and leave them out in the sun to slowly die and rot in the warm spring sun.
Mojack420 2 years ago
Coulter appears to be the only one of these talking heads that actually read the memos. Agree with her or not, she is obviously the most intellegent person speaking in this video.
dancerdog3 2 years ago 3
Of course, it's Faux news, the whole point of the piece is to sell Ann.
It's like wrestling, you know the winner before the match, the whole thing is choreographed. It's Faux...
HeathenRage 2 years ago 2
HeathenRage - Right.... it is all a Right-Wing-Conspiricy. It is some sort of plan for world domination...
Are you nuts? Fox news has been rated as the most neutral broadcaster of all cable news networks. This has been shown over and over by many studies by various organizations.
dancerdog3 2 years ago
Faux news themselves say they are news from a conservative perspective.
Are you telling me that I can't believe Faux news even when they are reporting on Faux news?
HeathenRage 2 years ago
HeathenRage- I think we are commenting on different things. My comment is about Fox News. You are writing about Faux news.
Fox News claims to be "Fair and Balanced." There have been studies showing that when compared to MSNBC, CNN. CBS, NBC, and ABC, Fox News is more balanced in their coverage. These studies look at the news, not the commentary. CNN usually comes out as the news that is most believed by viewers.
dancerdog3 2 years ago
Is the weather channel "fair and balanced"? Or are they just reporting the weather.
Weather is weather, and news is news.
The suggesting that news itself, can be "fair and Balanced" , indicates Faux is something other than news.
HeathenRage 2 years ago
HeathenRage - are you asking if there is absolute non-biased reporting? Of course not! Not even the weather channel can do that. By choosing what they report and how they report they are making value judgments on the importance of issues.
My point is that Fox News was rated as more balanced than others. That is a simple point.
You have some sort of Left Wing brainwashing going on and therefor will not accept the fact the Fox News actually looked better than other news in a study.
dancerdog3 2 years ago
dancerdog3 - Right.... it is all a left-Wing-Conspiricy. It is some sort of plan for world domination...
The simple point is.... you don't reference the study your citing. So is can't be reviewed and debated to establish it's source and motivations.
Someone may ask, "Is your study absolutely non-biased?" And the answer may be, Of course not!
That would then put the term "study" in the catagory of "news" and "weather" where a thumb-on-the-scale makes it "fair and balanced".
HeathenRage 2 years ago
HeathenRage - There have been many studies. National Review, Harvard, LA Times, and many more. Of course there is no absolute anything. This is not some Socialist Utopia! The point is that study after study gives Fox News a better rating at being less baised.
But, if you want to contiune your Moon Bat ranting, go ahead. You seem unable to understand the nuances of the real world. Better or worse, more or less, these are words describing the varying degrees to which you fail to comprehend.
dancerdog3 2 years ago
A, study, becomes many studies...then you cite the names of a few rags I'm sure you don't read, but no study.
Then you speak of a Socialist Utopia? And then you call me a moonbat ranter? Because you know you didn't read any study, you are just repeating something you swallowed without confirming it's validity.
HeathenRage 2 years ago
I just can't stop looking at Coulter's Adams apple, I now she was once a man.
IonicStormFront 2 years ago
If that's the case, you must have a hell a time averting your gaze from Rachel Madcow's dick. I bet you even want to suck it.
patsagainstrats 2 years ago
I'll leave that to you.
IonicStormFront 2 years ago
coulter is a real bitch.
pt1200 2 years ago
Let's waterboard Ann Coulter 200 times, deprive her with sleep for 11 days and forced her to nudity (disgusting) with a bunch of German shperds biting her in the ass .... I'm pretty sure she will change her mind about tortures and she might stop going on TV as Miss NOBODY saying BS every time she talks.
freedomanddemocracy 2 years ago
These people would say they did'nt torture Jesus. WWJD
SlowRealization 2 years ago 2
my god all three of them sound like the robot off of screamers
pewpewmigoo 2 years ago
plz waterboard ann coulter, many times!!!!
gkhelsinki 2 years ago 4
We sould of used real torture.
jmo18799 2 years ago
Ridiculous that this group of presstitutes are paid by a corporation that profits on war & destructionist policies.
If its not torture then the President can be legally subjected to the same practices!!
This is spin and cover for the real issues.
Children as young as 8 years of age were routinely sodomized raped in front of their mothers and fathers.
Fathers were raped in front of their sons & wives.
TruthBlade12 2 years ago
FOX NEWS IS TORTURE..
Francebrasil 2 years ago 3
Ann lets strap you to a 1000lb steel ball and drop it in lake Michigan, hey if you float we know you are a witch. LOL Torture worked even in the inquisition. Ann you are wearing the red slippers of Dorothy aren't you... LOL Don't let a house fall on ya!
clarisd 2 years ago
I don't think water boarding is torture.
arkivx1 2 years ago
Start thinking.
Francebrasil 2 years ago
While millions of $'s are made by Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush through Gilead sciences (Swine flu vaccines)
They use this story to hide and concel the videos of torture they wont release.
TruthBlade12 2 years ago
She says that torture has been going on for thousands of yrs to get information. But it doesn't work, people will say anything to stop the torture. 189 it is so sad to hear these people justify torture.
clarisd 2 years ago
Holy shit those are 3 of the most annoying women I've ever seen. lol
Also it was 183 not 83 times in a month and waterboarding is torture. Each one was only 10-20 sec as Ann says but 20 sec of waterboarding has got to be pretty long.
burntonion05 2 years ago
I must correct myself on the next terrorist plot that was foiled..not the Liberty Tower in New York..but the Liberty Towers in New Jersey..look it up on the internet..they almost look like the Twin Towers..2 large beautiful buildings, with business offices and apartments..Thank God they weren't destroyed by these innocent TERRORISTS...
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
Definition of a TERRORIST..One who commits violent and destructive acts to intiminate a people or goverment..inspires fear..i.e. Detainees at GITMO....
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
I thought you meant the Crusaders in Iraq
covertbabo12 2 years ago
Coultier - "Your talking about putting a caterpillar in a terrorist cell. That is not torture unless your a host on nbc and your afraid of bugs."
Gratz on showing how much of a shill you are Ann... The terrorist they did that to was actually afraid of bugs.
yoshscout 2 years ago
Fuck Fixed news !!
ANFLDJudgeRapesaKid 2 years ago
this is just disgusting.
WATERBOARD COULTER
its not torture anyways right?
DieKazze 2 years ago
Everyone... Stop being a BUNCH OF BLEEDING HEARTS... These creatures got what they deserved...U can't reason with them.. They DO Not abide by the Geneva Convention..The Horrific Brutality they have inflicted on their own Citizens and our Troops should make everyone sick to their stomachs..What our military did was Not Torture..nothing Compared to what they have done...our enhanced interrogations foiled many future plots to Kill more Americans..Wake up..We're not dealing with street punks!!!
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
How many plots?
yoshscout 2 years ago
yoshcout..1 Large plot.( and others)..The Liberty Tower in New York... Remember not only did they destroy The Twin Towers, where 3,000 Innocent Americans were killed..destroyed much of the Pentagon..but their real OBJECTIVE was to destroy THE WHITE HOUSE.. Do u want THEM, to destroy more of the U.S.?? Do u want them to come here, and rape,Slowly Torture us ( they are experts at that) Behead us? I don't know about u, but I certainly don't!!
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
fagofAmerica, you're lying. They didn't stop *one plot* - it was specifically meant to get false confessions from people, and to get perverts like yourself all excited by the idea of torturing people.
You should kill yourself, sodomite.
CarryANation 2 years ago
CarryANation...It's Obvious that your Peabrain Couldn't Comprehend my Comments about these "so called tortures" and about what your Terrorist Buddies were Planning to do Against My Country....Carry ANation..that's what u call yourself? Go carry Iran.. Venezula.. Cuba.. U Anti-American Communistic Asshole!!! Get the Hell out of The U.S..Traitor, go these countries.. and I Hope They BEHEAD trash like U!!
fateofAmerica 2 years ago
disgusting
eggnoggerino 2 years ago
listening to this video is torture
mtolives 2 years ago
The three male panelist dressed in drag distract me from the topic.
stigys 2 years ago 4