I noticed on another video of this where a balding person seated on the far right side of the straight table moved away and another took his place. Then suddenly he was back, moved away and was again replaced. Film editing in action. Look at that same area and you will see that this also was edited.
You believe the USSR won the crisis because it achieved a strategic goal. In reality the military gain was almost irrelevant. You're correct that it was a strategic maneuver, but they had a political goal. It was an attempt by the USSR to sway global perception in their favor. The USSR might have gained militarily, but this event made them look like an aggressor and their image took a serious hit. This exchange on the UN floor did immense damage to the USSR's credibility.
Can't people learn about history without getting angry about it? People need to learn from the past not live in it, what's done is done all people need to do is learn from it and make sure to never repeat similar incidents ever again.
It's interesting... essentially the USSR 'won' the missile crisis by having the US missiles that were in range of Russia removed from Turkey and Italy in exchange for the removal of the Soviet missiles in Cuba. The USSR can hardly be blamed for this. It was basically a strategic maneuver that paid off.
@rukhsta yet their credibility in world politics was shot by their outright lies and eventually their victory was worn down by technical advances that increased the range of icbms in general.
@HeavyArms0404 Let's not talk about credibility in world politics regarding the US and the USSR during the Cold War. The US was lacking that credibility ever since 'Operation PBSUCCESS', which was criticized even by its allies.
What you say about the ICBMs is true, but remember it went both ways. Not to forget they both 'discovered' ballistic subs. But in a way, the fact that they could both nuke each other arses off, brought some stability to the Cold War.
@rukhsta Thus, the reason why Kennedy wanted to go into vietnam. He won the race on an anticommunism platform, promising to push back communism rather than just contain it. The loss in the Missle Crisis made him desperate for a win, so he looked for a communist nation to fight that was 1.) economically and militarily weak, 2.) would not start WW3 if we attacked it, and 3.) would, if defeated, count as a victory for Kennedy and America.
@JimCarrSavannah I phrased that wrong. Though the handling of the crisis was perfect, Kennedy himself saw it as a loss, because despite catching the reds in a lie and exposing them, he couldn't do much more than negotiate. He was elected on an anti-communist platform, and wanted to prove that he could fight. IMO, he did just fine, but from his point of view he needed an asskicking on his resume rather than a skillful use of diplomacy.
@JimCarrSavannah Wow, you sure do lack both manners as intelligence. Do you call the negotiations a tactical victory for the US? You do remember that the US had to withdraw its missiles in Turkey as well as promise to leave Cuba alone, remember?
@Gardash111 They had to remove the missiles....the airbases (and thus small tatical nukes) stayed. By the way, US officials wanted to remove those missiles, as they had become obsolite
Love the line, "This is the first time I heard, 'that the crime was not the burglar, but the "discovery" of the burglar." When the Soviet Union tried to blame the US for spying on their nuclear build up, all the while all secretly installing missiles in Cuba. Stevenson slowly, patiently, dissected the Soviet Rep in a very un-assuming way leading him down the path of self incrimination before delivering the final blow,airal shots confirming the Soviet Lies all along. Better then Hollywood script.
@murad17bgfc That would be very difficult, especially for a young person. The power of AES in this crisis was first that he had the facts on his side, and secondly, his long and internationally recognized reputation as a proponent of disarmament and peace. He had been involved in setting up the UN in 1945 so when he took the unequivocal position that the missiles must go, both the Amer. public and the world understood that he spoke for more than just the US govt.
wow. good job discovering that this was edited @ProperLogicalDebate
MarshmallowParty 3 weeks ago
I noticed on another video of this where a balding person seated on the far right side of the straight table moved away and another took his place. Then suddenly he was back, moved away and was again replaced. Film editing in action. Look at that same area and you will see that this also was edited.
ProperLogicalDebate 1 month ago
You believe the USSR won the crisis because it achieved a strategic goal. In reality the military gain was almost irrelevant. You're correct that it was a strategic maneuver, but they had a political goal. It was an attempt by the USSR to sway global perception in their favor. The USSR might have gained militarily, but this event made them look like an aggressor and their image took a serious hit. This exchange on the UN floor did immense damage to the USSR's credibility.
dalstarz99 2 months ago
Can't people learn about history without getting angry about it? People need to learn from the past not live in it, what's done is done all people need to do is learn from it and make sure to never repeat similar incidents ever again.
TheBoredomOtaku 5 months ago
Thirsteen days !
dudewat212 9 months ago
@2003bogota what a strange place to find a troll lol
redryan20000 11 months ago
In these kinds of videos, the comments section is always going through WWIII
crazydudetz 1 year ago 12
I want to kill the voice-over guy. He ruins it.
Gardash111 1 year ago
@Gardash111 the guy is a translator....the mike is picking it up
histre101 1 year ago
It's interesting... essentially the USSR 'won' the missile crisis by having the US missiles that were in range of Russia removed from Turkey and Italy in exchange for the removal of the Soviet missiles in Cuba. The USSR can hardly be blamed for this. It was basically a strategic maneuver that paid off.
rukhsta 1 year ago
@rukhsta yet their credibility in world politics was shot by their outright lies and eventually their victory was worn down by technical advances that increased the range of icbms in general.
HeavyArms0404 1 year ago
@HeavyArms0404 Let's not talk about credibility in world politics regarding the US and the USSR during the Cold War. The US was lacking that credibility ever since 'Operation PBSUCCESS', which was criticized even by its allies.
What you say about the ICBMs is true, but remember it went both ways. Not to forget they both 'discovered' ballistic subs. But in a way, the fact that they could both nuke each other arses off, brought some stability to the Cold War.
Gardash111 1 year ago
@Gardash111 You are not wrong, sir.
HeavyArms0404 1 year ago
@rukhsta Thus, the reason why Kennedy wanted to go into vietnam. He won the race on an anticommunism platform, promising to push back communism rather than just contain it. The loss in the Missle Crisis made him desperate for a win, so he looked for a communist nation to fight that was 1.) economically and militarily weak, 2.) would not start WW3 if we attacked it, and 3.) would, if defeated, count as a victory for Kennedy and America.
Yeah, nothing could go wrong there. :)
dorkandproudofit 1 year ago
@dorkandproudofit
What planet are you from?
"The loss in the Missle Crisis"... are you smoking crack?
Do your homework before you post such bullshit and further expose yourself as the fool you apparently are.
JimCarrSavannah 1 year ago
@JimCarrSavannah I phrased that wrong. Though the handling of the crisis was perfect, Kennedy himself saw it as a loss, because despite catching the reds in a lie and exposing them, he couldn't do much more than negotiate. He was elected on an anti-communist platform, and wanted to prove that he could fight. IMO, he did just fine, but from his point of view he needed an asskicking on his resume rather than a skillful use of diplomacy.
dorkandproudofit 1 year ago
@JimCarrSavannah Wow, you sure do lack both manners as intelligence. Do you call the negotiations a tactical victory for the US? You do remember that the US had to withdraw its missiles in Turkey as well as promise to leave Cuba alone, remember?
Gardash111 1 year ago
@Gardash111 They had to remove the missiles....the airbases (and thus small tatical nukes) stayed. By the way, US officials wanted to remove those missiles, as they had become obsolite
patrickbonne 1 year ago
@patrickbonne Okay, so why are you repeating what I just said to me?
Gardash111 1 year ago
Love the line, "This is the first time I heard, 'that the crime was not the burglar, but the "discovery" of the burglar." When the Soviet Union tried to blame the US for spying on their nuclear build up, all the while all secretly installing missiles in Cuba. Stevenson slowly, patiently, dissected the Soviet Rep in a very un-assuming way leading him down the path of self incrimination before delivering the final blow,airal shots confirming the Soviet Lies all along. Better then Hollywood script.
RKnudsen22 1 year ago
"the crime was not the burglar, but the "discovery" of the burglar."
Same defense that Nixon used when he got caught!
JimCarrSavannah 1 year ago
nice post. thank you
ramsback28 2 years ago
we had a play in our school for this ... I played Adli Stevenson
murad17bgfc 2 years ago
@murad17bgfc That would be very difficult, especially for a young person. The power of AES in this crisis was first that he had the facts on his side, and secondly, his long and internationally recognized reputation as a proponent of disarmament and peace. He had been involved in setting up the UN in 1945 so when he took the unequivocal position that the missiles must go, both the Amer. public and the world understood that he spoke for more than just the US govt.
ciroalb3 1 year ago
Thank you very much for posting this. It's very appropriate for today. Due to the fact it was about 47 years ago this week that it took place.
Suprkit 2 years ago 8