This is a cool boss fight with the music, the fact that your fighting a character who acts like a party member, Tidus' overdrives and the voice cameos. If only it was a good deal harder. He has quite a bit of health but it could be a lot more and the damage he deals...uh it might as well be noting. Come on they should of went all out with the final boss of the game. At least give him counter attack.
Also I think in my version he says "1000 years of pain" directly after saying agony.
Well storywise, that is true. I understand how you disagree with my little opinion I said out of my boredom. However, if you look at it realistically, Shuyin was created after Tidus. I know I sound wrong. xD Let's just forget this little conversation, okay? I know I'm dumb, and I respect that.
@marlonful That doesn't make sense though, they created new moves for the characters like Nooj, Baralai,Gippal, Elma, Lucil, etc....yet they could create new moves for Shuyin? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into that.
Are you saying the moves he's doing are just coincidence or because they were lazy? If so I disagree...it's because Tidus is the dream version of Shuyin.
They should made late game bosses much harder. Some Aeon and this boss are so easy to beat. Not that giant machine in the desert tho. That one is rediculous and yet fun. xD
They didnt make this boss strong because this was made simply as a little project to answer where Tidus went if he disappeared or not because fans were left with questions! There wasn't a plan on making a x-2 in the first place
however strong kimarhi was they were balanced so it can be fair (and still hard at the same time) that wouldve made shuyin ehhh a little more challenging
(for example your lvl 99 shuyin will do hardcore damage) what do you think?
i agree, they shouldve made him at least twice as hard. i mean jecht in ffx was WAAAAAY harder than shuyin... it wouldve been more fun if he wus more difficult
tidus and jecht and all the others of dream zankarand was not in spira they were in the dream world tidus and jecht are the only ones that came from a dream world to the real world, once they came their they were still dreams but they wewre more than dreams jecht was sin he was no longer human he already real, tidus on the other hand got to be real cause of yuna and shuyin.
yeah but tidus was shuyin in the real zanakrnad and shuyin was tidus in the dream world, but tidus is his one person but he originated from shuyin they were once the same person.
thats what iread and lenne really no one they aid yuna might be a reincarnation of her but i guess no one remembered lenne so their was no other lenne. tidus and jecht are the only dreams that became everyone else just faded away, so their could be a leen for the dream zanrakand but she gone now.
yes they have made facts that tidus is real he came back and plus the secret ending of x-2 was clear enough to say plus if you search why then you will find it. you can't say tidus never existed because he did exist but as shuyin thats why i said tidus and shuyin are the same, now tidus is real though sometimes the producers can't give it away in the game they can't make money like it makes it to easy they want people asses to sit down and listen through the whole game.
They don't even have the same exsistence Tidus is a dream Shuyin is the real thing.
IT IS NOT FACT THAT TIDUS WAS BASED ON SHUYIN! the game never ever states this, it is very likely that Tidus is based on Shuyin, but it depends on what kind of facts you want. If we are going from everything that square says then you are going to have to except the theory of the Tidus being the great grandson of the dream. Because the Ultimania guide is an official book from Square.
that can't be because the facts are their and they are obvious that tidus was based of shuyin but im just saying that tidus and shuyin are the same exisatence now that tidus is real, basically something like that.
well they are not the same, but im saying that they are the same when it comes to existence like thats what i read and it makes sense tidus was based of shuyin obviosuly their the same if tidus is the recreation of shuyin thats what im trying to say.
well tidus exist now duh tidus and shuyin were the same listen tidus is real cause shuyin is real thats what im talking about tidus wouldn't be with yuna if shuyin wasn't real lol.
it suggest that tidus likeness and abilities are another way of having shuyin so that mean until shuyin was conceded with hate he was probadly just like tidus but the fathy remember him as a romantic hero trying to save lenne just like tidus thats thus prompting his recreation. but the only people destined to be real was tidus and jecht,everyone else their like his mom she died though but she in the farplane, sin took jecht so one day he can take tidus. sin came for just tidus no one else.
When the Fayth dreamt up the dream Zanarkand, Tidus was made from their memory of Shuyin, making Shuyin and Tidus one and the same. its confusing but thats a fact he was made as a image of shuyin so so their one and the same because he the image of shuyin and the dream world, he fights like shuyin. but everything else personality tidus has his own so does shuyin, but you have to understand thier probadly the same as in terms of EXISTENCEEEE.
the real people of zanrakand made the dream version and they based everyone of what tey remerbered of the real people so shuyin was memory of them became tidus,but in someway shuyin is alive as tidus but tidus lives as his own self, kinda like in dbz piccolo syncronize with nail lol. if yu yevon didn't make dream zanrakand, yuna would be dead because tidus wasn't their to push her further to survive and tidus would have just been as shuyin, and sin would have been alive foreverrrrrrrr 0_0.
@jinkazamadark Sort of Tidus is a dream of the Fayth he's the fayth's vague memory of Shuyin which is why they are both blitzball players and they fight the same and look and have the same voice but there not the exact same person ones a remnant of the other if they were the same person Tidus wouldn't have fell in love with Yuna he would've pining for Lenne
Ah well I dont know about the PAL version. I dont see why they would remove it. Check gamefaqs and see if its possible to get him in your team. He comes up under the name Star Player, not Tidus, but it is him.
No, I've done it. Finish the game with the good ending, play Blitzball tournament, beat Zanarkand Abes, and hire Star Player. Then you can have him on your Blitzball team but he appears under the name Star Player.
By that, you mean that the real Shuyin is Tidus? That'd be incorrect. Just look at the game. Yuna sees the differences. Shuyin was real. He was born to Zanarkand. You're right that they used memories they had of him to make Tidus, but that's it. Memories are memories, not fact. Shuyin is the real Tidus, but Tidus is just a dream made real. =\
yes tidus is real now but shuyin was the original they both are the same person its confusing but thats the truth. tidus was touched by sin him and jecht thats why they were real.
Which would actually mean that Tidus is his own person, with no further relation to Shuyin, but the origin is still there hence Shuyin is the real Tidus, but Tidus will never be the real Shuyin. It only works one way.
To be blunt, they are no longer one person, they are two, but no matter what, Tidus started off with a Shuyin base.
well thats is true but it still said that they were one and the same that tidus wont be the real shuyin because he is his own person but it kinda just saying shuyin is tidus and tidus is shuyin.
Actually in the game it was never said that they were the same, Zerathos is right Tidus was based off Shuyin but they are not eactly the same, Tidus has a more bouncy personality than Shuyin.
well what im saying is that now their different people because tidus became real, but tidus and shuyin are the same meaning their really one person in a weird way but ah confusing but they are the same saying that tidus was made of the memory of shuyin so making them the same something like that.
The fact still remains that they are not the same person, a 1000 years had past since Zanarkand was destroyed, the Fayth's memory of Shuyin can be easily distorted since then therefore dreaming a new person "Tidus". Infact Tidus could never be the same person as Shuyin truly because the Fayth dreamt him and not Shuyin. Tidus is more of a public eye version of Tidus. Even in the Ultimania guide Square states that Tidus is not the same person.
yeah thats true but they are actually the same in a way of when you sepak in terms of existence shuyin exist as tidusor tidus existence of shuyin but is his own person.
... This discussion is now going round in circles, we have already established that Shuyin was a basis for Tidus and probably a 1000 years ago there were the same person. Taking in account that Dream Zanarkand was peobably in a time loop. Actually scrap that!I just remembered if we are going by square's theory as stated in their Ultimania guide, the people of Dream Zanarkand had lots of babies in a 1000 years so Square actually states that, to be continued in the next comment cause YT sucks!
no tidus and shuyin are the same in exitence way he not a great great their not related, their not the same anymore they mean their the same in terms of existence now theirtwo different people but still they are the same i mean the same in existence not the same as personality what u like and dont like.
yuna and lenne are different, yuna is probadlt just the reincarnation of leene but shuyin is the one who the fayth based tidus of of that why they are one and the same.
Do you think u can beat that one dragon i cant remember its name but its right before you fight venagun. you fight it where u put in that melody but if u dont try to go through the gate u should battle it. i lost against it it has over 100,000 hp
I once accidently ran into him, and my team were all Mascots. It took SO long, but I finally managed to beat him. He was SUCH a bitch. The most annoying thing is his attack which absorbs HP from you and gives it to him. But keep healing and attacking and he should go down.
i really wanted them to bring back the aeons somehow like they were the only things hard enough to take down vegnagun or... Sin O_O ffx-2 disapointed me anyways expected more from it :)
Yeah, I didnt like the mission and chapter based system, and the "ghost story" was alright, but didnt have enough focus on it. But the battle system, I loved more than any other FF.
They made him way too weak. They should've given him more of Tidus's moves, like Haste, Slowga, Delay Buster, etc., too, instead of just his overdrives. Or at least have Vegnagun firing stuff at you from the background or something. Such a pathetic final boss is unforgiveable, even by FF standards (and hell, BFA was a pretty good final boss, why couldn't they make it something more like that?).
yeah well he got killed before he got chance to lol like slice and dice aka hit and run and blitz ace terror and zanarkand but i cant remember what the other 2 are... look on here for the final battle on other peoples vidoes you might see them lol =]
If you are lucky you can beat Shuyin in literally 1 attack, but sadly you need to be low on health, and for some reason he likes to attack the person with the lowest health with Terror of Zanarkand (at least with me)
i know how when u will give the sphere to bevelle or youth league when u choose bevelle and u finished the game u will get 99% new game plus and choose this time the youth league finish the game again and u get 100% the perfect ending will just pop out
Not for defense. I equipped Muscle Belts, Power Wrists, and accessories for raising max HP. The Zanarkand attack doesnt damage much. On level 60 or higher, you shouldnt have trouble with it.
The reason why they have the same moves is because Shuyin is the real Tidus. The Fayth remembered Shuyin because he was a popular blitz player. But when they try to dream him up, they didnt get it exact, and Tidus was formed. It also explains why they looked alike. This is just a rumor.
where'd you find this information?do you know where i could find it,like on a website or something?i was thinkin it has something to do with how they're all connected...but how,in what way?i want to look more in to this,interesting eh?
This is a cool boss fight with the music, the fact that your fighting a character who acts like a party member, Tidus' overdrives and the voice cameos. If only it was a good deal harder. He has quite a bit of health but it could be a lot more and the damage he deals...uh it might as well be noting. Come on they should of went all out with the final boss of the game. At least give him counter attack.
Also I think in my version he says "1000 years of pain" directly after saying agony.
floooooooooooooooood 8 months ago
his dmg is pathetic...
97432561 1 year ago
0:39 lol... anyone notice the "put the crybaby to sleep!"?
rondude02 1 year ago
All of Tidus's Over Drives!
darkdragonmaster123 1 year ago
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bundayz101 1 year ago
Shuyin's a copycat ._.
outgoingchels 2 years ago
How is he a copycat?
WhiteBuddha 1 year ago
He imitates Tidus obviously. (x No offense to Shuyin... xD
outgoingchels 1 year ago
Shuyin came first, how can he imitate Tidus? Shuyin predates him by a thousand years.
And nobody is imitating anyone. Tidus is the dream version of Shuyin so Tidus' overdrives are a copy of Shuyin's.
WhiteBuddha 1 year ago
Well storywise, that is true. I understand how you disagree with my little opinion I said out of my boredom. However, if you look at it realistically, Shuyin was created after Tidus. I know I sound wrong. xD Let's just forget this little conversation, okay? I know I'm dumb, and I respect that.
outgoingchels 1 year ago
It's okay, you're not dumb. I just see that 'he's copying Tidus' all the time and it tends to get on my nerves because it's not true.
But I agree, let's just forget it :)
WhiteBuddha 1 year ago
@WhiteBuddha wrong both have the mobes because shuyin looks like tidus so they put tidus ovedrives on skills on shuyin to don't create strange moves
marlonful 1 year ago
@marlonful What?
WhiteBuddha 1 year ago
@WhiteBuddha i met they put tidus skills overdrives on shuyin because shuyin looks like tidus so it wouldn't create strange moves to shuyin
marlonful 1 year ago
@marlonful That doesn't make sense though, they created new moves for the characters like Nooj, Baralai,Gippal, Elma, Lucil, etc....yet they could create new moves for Shuyin? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into that.
Are you saying the moves he's doing are just coincidence or because they were lazy? If so I disagree...it's because Tidus is the dream version of Shuyin.
WhiteBuddha 1 year ago
They should made late game bosses much harder. Some Aeon and this boss are so easy to beat. Not that giant machine in the desert tho. That one is rediculous and yet fun. xD
Julalaxsa 2 years ago
3 vs 1 ofcoure yuna,rikku and pain wins :/,shuyin have no change anyway^^
StreicherIsTheKing 2 years ago
Level 99 wow terror of zanarkand is the same as Blitz Ace the only thing thats different is the ball because tidus ball is a blitzball.
WhaleSharkZatch 2 years ago
They didnt make this boss strong because this was made simply as a little project to answer where Tidus went if he disappeared or not because fans were left with questions! There wasn't a plan on making a x-2 in the first place
vanguardrachel 2 years ago 2
They shouldve made shuyin like biran and yenke,
however strong kimarhi was they were balanced so it can be fair (and still hard at the same time) that wouldve made shuyin ehhh a little more challenging
(for example your lvl 99 shuyin will do hardcore damage) what do you think?
Acidchaos101 2 years ago 8
i cant tell u how many times my sis beat this game she knows like everything about the game u could ask her anything and she will know
aabbklll101 2 years ago
Shuyin has the same attacks as Tidus p.s. Dark Valefor is much harder
narutofan4545 2 years ago
i bet Lenne was hiding somewhere when Shuyin did Terror of Zanarkand, it was obviously her her threw the bltzball
FenrirWeapon 2 years ago
yeah, and idk how she got a hold of wakka's World Champion :P
pumpkinface773 2 years ago
lenne has her ways >.>
FenrirWeapon 2 years ago
I havent got to this part!
im in the part of d the dark valefor
0_o waow!
Terror of zanarkand?! Hey thats the Blitz Ace of Tidus! XD
Jukenmaru08 2 years ago
Yeah, Shuyin sucks. I kill him faster.
Zephlonx 2 years ago
How did you get your hp to like around the 5000-7000?? Man, you're like a pro ;D Please reply to this comment :3
tsukikoosen29 2 years ago
lvl 99
LeonTheBest92 2 years ago 2
simple, level up quickly. plus put iron duke and key to success together, wow, they'll bring ur hp, mp, and all statues up triple!
BeATrIcEROXX 2 years ago
i agree, they shouldve made him at least twice as hard. i mean jecht in ffx was WAAAAAY harder than shuyin... it wouldve been more fun if he wus more difficult
weirdaznman0 3 years ago
yea thats true
i beat him at 1/3 of what this guys strength is and he hardly touched me(altho his terror of zanarkand hurts)
they should have made him quite a bit stronger
maybe around what jecht or sin
cuz hes like the main boss
even vegnagun was too easy
hahan00b 2 years ago
that super attack he had was pretty bitchin.
Time2DieF00 3 years ago
Shuyin can possess people........maybe they should,ve put a move where shuyin does a possessing move where one teammate attacks the other
fridayman123 3 years ago 2
bhudass
dabeshu 3 years ago
tidus and jecht and all the others of dream zankarand was not in spira they were in the dream world tidus and jecht are the only ones that came from a dream world to the real world, once they came their they were still dreams but they wewre more than dreams jecht was sin he was no longer human he already real, tidus on the other hand got to be real cause of yuna and shuyin.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
i thought they were both special cuz they both came in contact with sin
weirdaznman0 3 years ago
yeah but tidus was shuyin in the real zanakrnad and shuyin was tidus in the dream world, but tidus is his one person but he originated from shuyin they were once the same person.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
if that's true, then who's lenne supposed to be!?
weirdaznman0 3 years ago
thats what iread and lenne really no one they aid yuna might be a reincarnation of her but i guess no one remembered lenne so their was no other lenne. tidus and jecht are the only dreams that became everyone else just faded away, so their could be a leen for the dream zanrakand but she gone now.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
they are
kingdomheart71 2 years ago
I said Shuyin was real...
And the game never made it clear that Tidus is real now, it is not fact that he is real now.
01habbo 3 years ago
yes they have made facts that tidus is real he came back and plus the secret ending of x-2 was clear enough to say plus if you search why then you will find it. you can't say tidus never existed because he did exist but as shuyin thats why i said tidus and shuyin are the same, now tidus is real though sometimes the producers can't give it away in the game they can't make money like it makes it to easy they want people asses to sit down and listen through the whole game.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
They don't even have the same exsistence Tidus is a dream Shuyin is the real thing.
IT IS NOT FACT THAT TIDUS WAS BASED ON SHUYIN! the game never ever states this, it is very likely that Tidus is based on Shuyin, but it depends on what kind of facts you want. If we are going from everything that square says then you are going to have to except the theory of the Tidus being the great grandson of the dream. Because the Ultimania guide is an official book from Square.
01habbo 3 years ago
that can't be because the facts are their and they are obvious that tidus was based of shuyin but im just saying that tidus and shuyin are the same exisatence now that tidus is real, basically something like that.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
"For this reason,
the genes of the dream's inhabitants began to blend in a complicated way, and
with these impurities, the duplication of [Shuyin's] personage cannot be
certain. Even if it is true that Shuyin was the model for Tidus, this would
not mean that their connection is close."
Quoted from the Ultimania guide can't get more factual than that
Shuyin and Tidus are not the same you should give it a read sometime.
01habbo 3 years ago
well they are not the same, but im saying that they are the same when it comes to existence like thats what i read and it makes sense tidus was based of shuyin obviosuly their the same if tidus is the recreation of shuyin thats what im trying to say.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
You're still wrong exsistance is Tidus being the dream of the Fayth and Shuyin being real.
01habbo 3 years ago
well tidus exist now duh tidus and shuyin were the same listen tidus is real cause shuyin is real thats what im talking about tidus wouldn't be with yuna if shuyin wasn't real lol.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
it suggest that tidus likeness and abilities are another way of having shuyin so that mean until shuyin was conceded with hate he was probadly just like tidus but the fathy remember him as a romantic hero trying to save lenne just like tidus thats thus prompting his recreation. but the only people destined to be real was tidus and jecht,everyone else their like his mom she died though but she in the farplane, sin took jecht so one day he can take tidus. sin came for just tidus no one else.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
When the Fayth dreamt up the dream Zanarkand, Tidus was made from their memory of Shuyin, making Shuyin and Tidus one and the same. its confusing but thats a fact he was made as a image of shuyin so so their one and the same because he the image of shuyin and the dream world, he fights like shuyin. but everything else personality tidus has his own so does shuyin, but you have to understand thier probadly the same as in terms of EXISTENCEEEE.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
the real people of zanrakand made the dream version and they based everyone of what tey remerbered of the real people so shuyin was memory of them became tidus,but in someway shuyin is alive as tidus but tidus lives as his own self, kinda like in dbz piccolo syncronize with nail lol. if yu yevon didn't make dream zanrakand, yuna would be dead because tidus wasn't their to push her further to survive and tidus would have just been as shuyin, and sin would have been alive foreverrrrrrrr 0_0.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
tidus and shuyin s the same person?
jinkazamadark 3 years ago
Ah wow! Another Kazama!
KojiKazama 3 years ago
@jinkazamadark Sort of Tidus is a dream of the Fayth he's the fayth's vague memory of Shuyin which is why they are both blitzball players and they fight the same and look and have the same voice but there not the exact same person ones a remnant of the other if they were the same person Tidus wouldn't have fell in love with Yuna he would've pining for Lenne
ValentineVanDrarcla 1 year ago
@jinkazamadark ...no....
MegaSonicmaster 1 year ago
vagnugun and shuyin are nothing compared to the fiends and bosses at via infenito i beat them both in 2 hits lol with dark knight/black sky :D
igodzila7 3 years ago
Wow. I just started this game (lvl 20 ftw!) and Shuyin doesn't even look that tough
shugare7 3 years ago
so i hear this shuyin person can possess people
fridayman123 3 years ago
Yeah, he possesses Nooj and Baralai.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
Trema would make a harder last boss
fridayman123 3 years ago
Shuyin was a big rip off to be the last boss i wish Trema was could,ve been a harder boss
fridayman123 3 years ago
I only wish that Shuyin was stronger so the battle could last longer, I usually kill him really fast...
BlackMageLeader 3 years ago
you know i do that for using elixer on him so the battle take some longer
six454 3 years ago
he's easy
runescapekerr 3 years ago
L luv shuyin..but I luv tidus more <3<3
yunnalicious 3 years ago
maaaan Shuyin got a lot of HP
fridayman123 3 years ago
darn i love Shuyin oÔ "Vanish with the rest of Spira!" X)
So desperate... awesome!!!
llShuyinll 3 years ago
Yah, totally!
KojiKazama 3 years ago
this guy has problems
brainjuice654 3 years ago
i rather trema be last boss. Way more kick
shaunthehole 3 years ago 2
thats not jecht thats auron
Ivanphangiscool 3 years ago 5
I should upload a video of me beating him at level 1
soniquefus 3 years ago 2
I thinks its quite funny that Shuyins attacks are the same as Tidus's overdrives :P
but its a shame that you'll only get to see Tidus again in the endings :'(
WolfGirlSakura 3 years ago
Yeah. You could also unlock him in Blitzball. He is called Star Player.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
What !!! How do you do it !? o_0
COCOONFABULA 3 years ago
You must beat the Zanarkand Abes in a Tournament.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
let me guess it only works on international version?
brainjuice654 3 years ago
No actually, it worked on my version. Its the normal NTSC U/C.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
problem is that i have the pal version lol
brainjuice654 3 years ago
Ah well I dont know about the PAL version. I dont see why they would remove it. Check gamefaqs and see if its possible to get him in your team. He comes up under the name Star Player, not Tidus, but it is him.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
No, getting him as a character to kick ass with and fight is only available in Int/Last Mission. The blitzball thing is all around. =P
Zerathos986 3 years ago
But I think you gotta finish the game with the good ending and play New Game+ before this works.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
That's not Tidus you can only get him in the international version.
01habbo 3 years ago
No, I've done it. Finish the game with the good ending, play Blitzball tournament, beat Zanarkand Abes, and hire Star Player. Then you can have him on your Blitzball team but he appears under the name Star Player.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
This is one of those SE got lazy and just used the model of Tidus :(
01habbo 3 years ago
more like an easter egg)
Kamikadze333666 3 years ago
aww that sucks nobody throws the ball 4 terror of zanarkand :P
inuyasha5335 3 years ago
XD I agree with jecht put that cry baby to sleep indeed
obliven1993 3 years ago
he's like the lamest last boss, too easy
TheYpod 3 years ago
i only did 5 hits shuyin X= 26,000+ PER HIT LMAO
babyblue809 3 years ago
i love this game...
best battle system.
neechecha 3 years ago 2
At least we all know the real Tidus is better then Shuyin......
This is like my favorite background theme song. I wanna know what it called.
siegblade 3 years ago
I think its called "Demise".
KojiKazama 3 years ago
Actually it's called "Their Resting Place" on the FFX-2 soundtrack.
BlueDragon077 3 years ago
No : "Demise"
COCOONFABULA 3 years ago
You realise the real Tidus is Shuyin, right? xD
Zerathos986 3 years ago
thats kinda true but they are both one and the same. when the fathy dreamt the zanarkand, their memory of shuyin was made into tidus.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
By that, you mean that the real Shuyin is Tidus? That'd be incorrect. Just look at the game. Yuna sees the differences. Shuyin was real. He was born to Zanarkand. You're right that they used memories they had of him to make Tidus, but that's it. Memories are memories, not fact. Shuyin is the real Tidus, but Tidus is just a dream made real. =\
Zerathos986 3 years ago
yes tidus is real now but shuyin was the original they both are the same person its confusing but thats the truth. tidus was touched by sin him and jecht thats why they were real.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
Which would actually mean that Tidus is his own person, with no further relation to Shuyin, but the origin is still there hence Shuyin is the real Tidus, but Tidus will never be the real Shuyin. It only works one way.
To be blunt, they are no longer one person, they are two, but no matter what, Tidus started off with a Shuyin base.
Zerathos986 3 years ago
well thats is true but it still said that they were one and the same that tidus wont be the real shuyin because he is his own person but it kinda just saying shuyin is tidus and tidus is shuyin.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
Actually in the game it was never said that they were the same, Zerathos is right Tidus was based off Shuyin but they are not eactly the same, Tidus has a more bouncy personality than Shuyin.
01habbo 3 years ago
well what im saying is that now their different people because tidus became real, but tidus and shuyin are the same meaning their really one person in a weird way but ah confusing but they are the same saying that tidus was made of the memory of shuyin so making them the same something like that.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
The fact still remains that they are not the same person, a 1000 years had past since Zanarkand was destroyed, the Fayth's memory of Shuyin can be easily distorted since then therefore dreaming a new person "Tidus". Infact Tidus could never be the same person as Shuyin truly because the Fayth dreamt him and not Shuyin. Tidus is more of a public eye version of Tidus. Even in the Ultimania guide Square states that Tidus is not the same person.
01habbo 3 years ago
*Tidus is more of a public eye version of SHUYIN soz bout that.
01habbo 3 years ago
yeah thats true but they are actually the same in a way of when you sepak in terms of existence shuyin exist as tidusor tidus existence of shuyin but is his own person.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
... This discussion is now going round in circles, we have already established that Shuyin was a basis for Tidus and probably a 1000 years ago there were the same person. Taking in account that Dream Zanarkand was peobably in a time loop. Actually scrap that!I just remembered if we are going by square's theory as stated in their Ultimania guide, the people of Dream Zanarkand had lots of babies in a 1000 years so Square actually states that, to be continued in the next comment cause YT sucks!
01habbo 3 years ago
Tidus is the great great great (insert as many greats as possible) grand son of dream version of Shuyin!
But I never liked Square's theory, ultimania guides can have rubbish explainations sometimes.
But in the game's terms using facts from the game. Zera is right Yuna can see differences and therefore they are not the same!
01habbo 3 years ago
no tidus and shuyin are the same in exitence way he not a great great their not related, their not the same anymore they mean their the same in terms of existence now theirtwo different people but still they are the same i mean the same in existence not the same as personality what u like and dont like.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
are you sure that is true, beecuause yuna and lenne are the same and she wasnt made with zanarkand
astnpllps 3 years ago
yuna and lenne are different, yuna is probadlt just the reincarnation of leene but shuyin is the one who the fayth based tidus of of that why they are one and the same.
kingdomheart71 3 years ago
Im so mad that he pretty much is Bizzaro-Tidus....
Chub234 3 years ago
Do you think u can beat that one dragon i cant remember its name but its right before you fight venagun. you fight it where u put in that melody but if u dont try to go through the gate u should battle it. i lost against it it has over 100,000 hp
trea567 3 years ago 2
Yeah, I'm sure he is beatable. If you can beat Trema and all those freaks in Via Infinito below Bevelle, then you can beat anything.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
yah i know i beat the dragon too but i had to try like atleast ATLEAST 23 times... i counted... and i got sooo pised i could swear i was sweeting
leonpal14 3 years ago
That one's pretty easy but it will be easier will Cat nip. that dragon thing is nothing compared to elder drakes and paragon/trema
jaay88 3 years ago
i hell beat that dragon but then again i was wasting my time training alot b4 the battle so i was strong
DrGnRIDER112 3 years ago
I once accidently ran into him, and my team were all Mascots. It took SO long, but I finally managed to beat him. He was SUCH a bitch. The most annoying thing is his attack which absorbs HP from you and gives it to him. But keep healing and attacking and he should go down.
SeeingRed6029 3 years ago
wch dresshpere does yunna use
blackmagie 3 years ago
Dark Knight
KojiKazama 3 years ago
lolzz
i did this too!
x,x,x,x,x,x,x,x :D
NiN0b00 3 years ago
i really wanted them to bring back the aeons somehow like they were the only things hard enough to take down vegnagun or... Sin O_O ffx-2 disapointed me anyways expected more from it :)
tigsterofhades 3 years ago
Yeah, I didnt like the mission and chapter based system, and the "ghost story" was alright, but didnt have enough focus on it. But the battle system, I loved more than any other FF.
KojiKazama 3 years ago
They made him way too weak. They should've given him more of Tidus's moves, like Haste, Slowga, Delay Buster, etc., too, instead of just his overdrives. Or at least have Vegnagun firing stuff at you from the background or something. Such a pathetic final boss is unforgiveable, even by FF standards (and hell, BFA was a pretty good final boss, why couldn't they make it something more like that?).
Wolfwood824 3 years ago 3
WOAH! His Terror of Zanarkand is the same as Tidus's Slice and Dice and Blitz Ace overdrives in FFX!
rugrat312 4 years ago
they are all of his 4 moves just different names =]
Gellvos 4 years ago
i didn't see him do energy rain
rugrat312 4 years ago
yeah well he got killed before he got chance to lol like slice and dice aka hit and run and blitz ace terror and zanarkand but i cant remember what the other 2 are... look on here for the final battle on other peoples vidoes you might see them lol =]
Gellvos 4 years ago
his other ones i think are spiral cut and energy rain(i feel sooo lame for knowing those lol)
rugrat312 4 years ago
yeah thats the ones lol but why feel lame? i think i know them all lmao apart from rikku's o.o fuck that lmao
Gellvos 4 years ago
If you are lucky you can beat Shuyin in literally 1 attack, but sadly you need to be low on health, and for some reason he likes to attack the person with the lowest health with Terror of Zanarkand (at least with me)
Linkforlife199 4 years ago
no he has more than 10000 hp and you cant beat the 9999 limit
leonpal14 3 years ago
trigger happy?
Linkforlife199 3 years ago
i mean u cant break the 9999 limit with one attack if you use the full triger happy u mite be able to break it
leonpal14 3 years ago
@leonpal14
Ummm.. Equip The item invincible. which allows you do damage higher than 9999 ^_^
jaay88 3 years ago
rly???? i never knew that cuz i keep forgetting to go to kilika on the final chapter...
leonpal14 3 years ago
fights like tidus but different voice
assaindude 4 years ago
Actually, they're both voiced by James Arnold Taylor. Too bad he couldn't act in Final Fantasy X >.>
Korotai 4 years ago
"you are not lenne!"
no shit sherlock.
lob31 4 years ago
lol shuyin does about 200 in damage and your weakest does like 1300 haha you owned his ass.
Mukation 4 years ago
I like the music. He's easy killed him in 3 moves.
krat0s9001 4 years ago
He copies Tidus overdrive slice and dice to(hit and run)
TyffaTyff 4 years ago
he copeyd blitz ace i never relized that wheni fought him it was probly because i never played ffx befor this
bitxhyuuga 4 years ago
does he copy spiral cut and energy rain?
Rendashi 4 years ago
ya i think i dont know my x-2 hasnt worked in a year
bitxhyuuga 4 years ago
so what are the new names for spiral cut and energy rain?
Rendashi 4 years ago
i dont remeber
bitxhyuuga 4 years ago
hes got all of them
blainyrules 4 years ago
I beat Shuyin in one turn once. I equipped Invincible and used Annihilator.
FaustTheUndying 4 years ago
ow no it was in the 2000 i just watched the site
Nickwr3 4 years ago
what lvl you were this guy looks pretty though i read in a site dat terror in zanerkand does a 5000-7500 damamge i think
Nickwr3 4 years ago
I was lvl 60,61 and 62 I think. I dont usually reach 99 unless I go to via infinito (I think that's what its called, 100 levels under Bevelle.
KojiKazama 4 years ago
w00000t i played out the game with lvl 70 or 72 now i can play the game againg with my dresspherse omg i killed the first boss with 1 black sky
Nickwr3 4 years ago
Did you get 100% yet? I needed a walkthrough to successfully complete the game 100%. Some things seem impossible to figure out.
KojiKazama 4 years ago
i know how when u will give the sphere to bevelle or youth league when u choose bevelle and u finished the game u will get 99% new game plus and choose this time the youth league finish the game again and u get 100% the perfect ending will just pop out
Shuyin686 4 years ago
did u have anything specail on? so that weaken the 1000 year of z attack?
KH2FF13 4 years ago
Not for defense. I equipped Muscle Belts, Power Wrists, and accessories for raising max HP. The Zanarkand attack doesnt damage much. On level 60 or higher, you shouldnt have trouble with it.
KojiKazama 4 years ago
Um, the 1st time I fought him I was all three lvl 99 and then he did Blitz Ace to Rikku and she barely survived with 36 hp!
SeeingRed6029 4 years ago
Huh? You serious? Did you go into battle with your HP low?
KojiKazama 4 years ago
No, I was at full health. AND using the Dark knight Dressphere. Maybe its because I didn't equip anything to boost my maximum hp. =D
SeeingRed6029 4 years ago
That's probably why. I had Crystal Bangles equipped to double their HP.
KojiKazama 4 years ago
=) i loved this game bad that the lasts bosses were to easy =( aniway the game rocks
jorgesora 4 years ago
The reason why they have the same moves is because Shuyin is the real Tidus. The Fayth remembered Shuyin because he was a popular blitz player. But when they try to dream him up, they didnt get it exact, and Tidus was formed. It also explains why they looked alike. This is just a rumor.
KojiKazama 5 years ago
where'd you find this information?do you know where i could find it,like on a website or something?i was thinkin it has something to do with how they're all connected...but how,in what way?i want to look more in to this,interesting eh?
Abiolla 4 years ago
I got it from a Brady Games strategy guide. But if you check on gamefaqs you should find something.
KojiKazama 4 years ago
i wonder why shuyin has exactly the same overdrives as tidus. laziness of the developers, or what? :D
yoshi314 5 years ago