the reason they wiped out was they tried to gybe but the boom could not cross centerline because they never let the running backstay go on that side. thus the main was all the way trimmed in and in that much wind it caused them to broach
@chubman1845 agreed. quite a stupid idea I find. Always be careful when gybing. This was on a small sailboat, if you tried that on a Tall Ship, well, politely put, you would be screwed.
Naw braskies the starboard runner never got let off. It tripped up the main and kept it in after the gybe. Afterguard is being too preoccupied with the flogging code 3
i think he came on to hard and to square... rushed and crashed.... better to ease and bring on than to push square... dump the kicker and keep control ... plus there was no control of the kite..... its like it had already tangled at the mark and he was pushing up to fill.. i could be wrong though
Hi.... Not sure how to take your question? Are you asking what the kicker does or are you saying what help would that be? Like i said in my post... i could be wrong........ all the best :-)
@tincoffin the Kicker is a rod and pulley system rigged up to a rope fed into the cockpit which allows the boom to be tightened flat or loosened (essentially dropped or lowered) it is likely that on the Broad Reach they were on approaching the Can it would have been mostly off anyway by bringing the Boom down (kicker on) you tighten the Leach of the sail (back edge) and take any bag out. For upwind sailing. in opposition, you can de-power a sail by letting the kicker off, this may have helped.
So the answer is: the main sheets got tangled? I guess that's the only possible reason. OUCH! So, how do you get the heck out of this - heeling causes it to head up so you can't fall off. If you cut the spinnaker sheet or the guy, would that be enough to help right the boat? Probably don't want to cut the main sheets...
@timbuckyball Never cut your mainsheet, and as you may notice, that's an assy so you don't have a guy, and in this case after the gybe at the bottom mark they lost control couse of their main not the kite, as you can see the kite was never filled, possible reason too eager to get round the mark and made the turn too fast, what to do loose your kicker try to get the keel in right position, if don' help can try to unfurl a small head sail to de-power the kite and, if no help take the it down
We broached our Swan 441 in the Eurocard Gotland Runt regatta about 2 weeks ago, and as a bowman, that's not ideal work situations but we managed to get through it and got out of it after something like 5 minutes of work - amazingly without any real damages.
With the boom hung up he heals so far after the failed jibe that he lost helm control and could not head up or down - that would suck bigtime.
I get my main sheet hung up on the corner of my stern occasionally on a jibe and it just levers the boat over - of course on a Laser you can just reach back and pull it off!
@papatbj Its short for running backstay. It means that because some boats have sqaure top mains, they cant have a single backstay because it will get caught every time you try and tack/gybe, so they have two.
@marshall7096 You don't have a choice in the matter. It's physics - the boat steers the opposite way to how it leans, so as it heels over, it heads up, so it heels over etc. etc. You have to catch it early. These guys are the best in the world, but even they can't always control those weapons.
You don't want to broach and it is not a good thing. It looks dramatic however quite often there is no damage. Clean up inside can be a pain though. I've been fortunate and have never broached but when racing it is not all that uncommon.
Here I was screaming. DUMP THE MAIN!!! DUMP THE MAIN!!!
goingthroughthefloor 1 week ago
well that crew is a bunch of idiots! FIX THE MAIN BOOM!! and yet they do nothing. shameful. :(
SailorChick01 1 month ago
I'm pretty sure this is a gybe mark not the bottom mark so the kite was was done properly ish but the main got caught somewhere
sailorj2009 1 month ago
LET the MAIN SHEEEET GOOOOOOO...
TheGreekSailor 2 months ago 2
is that cape town?
verzu23421 4 months ago
the reason they wiped out was they tried to gybe but the boom could not cross centerline because they never let the running backstay go on that side. thus the main was all the way trimmed in and in that much wind it caused them to broach
chubman1845 6 months ago 6
@chubman1845 agreed. quite a stupid idea I find. Always be careful when gybing. This was on a small sailboat, if you tried that on a Tall Ship, well, politely put, you would be screwed.
SailorChick01 1 month ago
funny, main is in the middle and nobody even try to do anything. great crew. :)
iappsdev 8 months ago
Naw braskies the starboard runner never got let off. It tripped up the main and kept it in after the gybe. Afterguard is being too preoccupied with the flogging code 3
hotdogger420 9 months ago
dont theas boats have acanting keel?
nickolastd21 9 months ago
i think he came on to hard and to square... rushed and crashed.... better to ease and bring on than to push square... dump the kicker and keep control ... plus there was no control of the kite..... its like it had already tangled at the mark and he was pushing up to fill.. i could be wrong though
firestarterboy1 1 year ago
@firestarterboy1 What does dumping the kicker do ?
tincoffin 7 months ago
@tincoffin
Hi.... Not sure how to take your question? Are you asking what the kicker does or are you saying what help would that be? Like i said in my post... i could be wrong........ all the best :-)
firestarterboy1 6 months ago
@tincoffin
Getting rid of some of the tension on the sail
silencedbadger 6 months ago
@tincoffin the Kicker is a rod and pulley system rigged up to a rope fed into the cockpit which allows the boom to be tightened flat or loosened (essentially dropped or lowered) it is likely that on the Broad Reach they were on approaching the Can it would have been mostly off anyway by bringing the Boom down (kicker on) you tighten the Leach of the sail (back edge) and take any bag out. For upwind sailing. in opposition, you can de-power a sail by letting the kicker off, this may have helped.
MrNarrative 2 months ago
I mean take down the kite behind the head sail by letting the tack run!
hipe89 1 year ago
So the answer is: the main sheets got tangled? I guess that's the only possible reason. OUCH! So, how do you get the heck out of this - heeling causes it to head up so you can't fall off. If you cut the spinnaker sheet or the guy, would that be enough to help right the boat? Probably don't want to cut the main sheets...
timbuckyball 1 year ago
@timbuckyball Never cut your mainsheet, and as you may notice, that's an assy so you don't have a guy, and in this case after the gybe at the bottom mark they lost control couse of their main not the kite, as you can see the kite was never filled, possible reason too eager to get round the mark and made the turn too fast, what to do loose your kicker try to get the keel in right position, if don' help can try to unfurl a small head sail to de-power the kite and, if no help take the it down
hipe89 1 year ago
We broached our Swan 441 in the Eurocard Gotland Runt regatta about 2 weeks ago, and as a bowman, that's not ideal work situations but we managed to get through it and got out of it after something like 5 minutes of work - amazingly without any real damages.
stormonster 1 year ago
Lucky not to lose the rig, lucky the port runner was taught, could of ripped the leward one out as it went across. Nasty :(
Mirror65196 1 year ago
With the boom hung up he heals so far after the failed jibe that he lost helm control and could not head up or down - that would suck bigtime.
I get my main sheet hung up on the corner of my stern occasionally on a jibe and it just levers the boat over - of course on a Laser you can just reach back and pull it off!
jsmcguireIII 1 year ago
What is a runner?
papatbj 1 year ago
@papatbj Its short for running backstay. It means that because some boats have sqaure top mains, they cant have a single backstay because it will get caught every time you try and tack/gybe, so they have two.
Corsair1101 1 year ago
If he'd just bear away, instead of heading up, he'd be OK.
marshall7096 1 year ago
@marshall7096 You don't have a choice in the matter. It's physics - the boat steers the opposite way to how it leans, so as it heels over, it heads up, so it heels over etc. etc. You have to catch it early. These guys are the best in the world, but even they can't always control those weapons.
Rugby1989Scot 1 year ago
Why you want to broach? What is the purpose?
eddie68000 1 year ago
You don't want to broach and it is not a good thing. It looks dramatic however quite often there is no damage. Clean up inside can be a pain though. I've been fortunate and have never broached but when racing it is not all that uncommon.
PanzerDave 1 year ago
@eddie68000 You don't. It's a mistake, but it's quite easy to do (not always easy to undo)
Rugby1989Scot 1 year ago
That kind of force on the back stay runners often brings a rig down :(
kingbrucy 2 years ago
this is why I HATE runners...
dlaz64 2 years ago
oh no !! 0:26
kriskk007 2 years ago
Looks like the boom caught a runner...
Camerameister 2 years ago
That manouver is called a "north korean lewad gybe hoist".
68062 2 years ago
ive done it on a 42 and i almost pooped my pants!
sailindude1221 2 years ago
This sort of happens to me everytime I tried to gybe a 49er...must be even more scarry on this 70ft monster...
prosenquist 2 years ago