CSE Pwnage: Creationist Scientists

[TheLostGuitarist]

this video deserves more views keep it up!

[CHAS1422]

Newton Kepler Copernicus Galileo etc all studied astronomy, motion, mass, force, equilibrium, optics, etc... None of them were Botonists, Geologists, Zoologists, Pathologists, Paleontologists, Biologists, Biochemists, or Entomologists, etc... These sciences did not flower until after Darwin.

Also, Newton was a Unitarian and not a Trinitarian as these Xtians are.

[TheAvengingAtheist]

Also Newton was an alchemist.

[blazereef]

@TheAvengingAtheist yeh but thats different lol, these tards know that but of coarse they are only interested in lies, however, i do wonder if they had to, what would be their defense to that little fact

[templeofthefrog]

Great video - with one exception. Copernicus retained circular orbits, therefore his model also required epicycles. Elliptical orbits were introduced by Kepler.

[gotilk]

Published atheists (or ones referenced in history) were significantly less common when being an atheist required that you not be attached to the idea of keeping certain parts of your body. This explains quite a lot more than most believers would be willing to admit.

I also feel it's important to point out that almost no famous scientists in history were Internet enthusiasts. Therefore the Internet cannot work and does not exist.

[blankateeblank]

schools teach you lies,government teaches u lies.....your parents got taught lies before you....its all laid out plan...to make you beleive a lie......thinking you know the truth ,but its not the truth...its harder to be a christian a real christian...than it is to say im a monkey and i can do what i want within reason....being a christian takes resposability ,disapline,hard work,humility,among many other things.....

[blankateeblank]

you think poeple who r weak minded r christain cuz they r coping out ...wen in reality its much harder to do....than what you intend to beleive.....TRUTH IS THE TRUTH....its much easier to say oh thats not true than it is to seek out the TRUTH.

and go with the herd mentality,that the poeple who run this world want you to as their slave who beleive you are free,and have knowledge...when you dont.

[TheLostGuitarist]

@blankateeblank if by responsibility you mean responsibility to ignore all of the rest of the world who is more educated than you are so you can go on living in a cave...

[blankateeblank]

@TheLostGuitarist youve obviously lost more than your guitar...

because something is said to be proven or if something is taught..dosent make it a fact...of truth...if you tell people a lie long enough ,they will eventually believe its the truth.nough said....

[YourGodIsDeaD311]

@blankateeblank like religion?

[jrockzmyv382]

@blankateeblank

"because something is said to be proven or if something is taught..dosent make it a fact...of truth...if you tell people a lie long enough ,they will eventually believe its the truth.nough said...."

Ummmm... like the Bible, Qu'ran, or Torah?

Did you even realize you just screwed yourself with your own words?????

[blankateeblank]

the TRUTH never has to be shoved down someones throat.......unlike your ideas....of truth

[blankateeblank]

just like the english....who prolly thought they where doing a good for the world....by killingoff the natives......or hitler..or any of the known or unknown evil selfish...hating ....destroying poeple of this world

[Keippernicus]

I agree and I don't shove the truth down anyone's throat, I post videos you are free to go anywhere else on the internet. It's the dipshit theists like yourself that go door to door and push god, insist on prayer in schools and invoke god during every public address.

Oh we're the pushy ones for making videos. Get fucked, troll.

[blankateeblank]

wos pushing god?

im not....i was stating a fact....

ill leave you alone to worship yourself toodles

[blankateeblank]

@Keippernicus who is pushing anything? i am commenting on a video ,made and put into a forum ,which comments are allowed. if you dont like my comment you can over look it. however, i belive ,this forum only gives you the opportunity to post,videos..in order to produce the atmosphere you would problly enjoy the most.

[blankateeblank]

@Keippernicus one with conflict and argument...,but on a biased level...where only comments that agree ar alowed..and all others are treated with like manner as above.

because someone has diff beliefs,dosent giv u a right to be cruel...or a judge over them.

[blankateeblank]

@blankateeblank if you cared at all about true knowledge you would not act or treat others the way you have treated me,unless however your just stuipid.

[ThatOneQuestion]

blankateeblank, you are pretty pathetic.

This is a public place, and no one is forced to do anything.

He isn't shoving his ideas anywhere. Dont be such a pussy.

If you dont like the fact that your Magic Man isn't real, then leave. Dont make an ass out of yourself by throwing temper tantrums and pretending like anyone takes you seriously.

You still cant validate your god. That is a fact. Grow up, little boy.

Excellent vid, Keippernicus!

[blankateeblank]

awe dose this mean you want to play wit me =D gosh thanks..=p

im flattered....little boy hahhahahaaa

wut makes u think im a male...

[ThatOneQuestion]

"awe dose this mean you want to play wit me"

Not really. Destroying your pathetic statements will be like beating the shit out of a retard: you wont even know what hit you.

Okay, I'll call you little girl then. Seriously, the orientation of your sexual organs doesn't mean a damn then when it comes to logical arguments.

[ThatOneQuestion]

I'm curious... you have this phrase on your profile:

the only way to know the truth is to look for it.....

How far did you look for this "truth" you speak of?

The bible? HA!! Who led you there? Your parents? Were you brainwashed into it early on and got stuck there?

Why didn't you go looking for this "truth" thing at a university or library?

[blankateeblank]

lol.....everyone believes something....if u think that u are superior to someone else because of what you believe....you r the one who is brainwashed.

not to mention rude and u have no sence of humor ither.

oh let me guess,its not what u believe,its what you know,but however ,what you think u know ,is what you beleive.

[ThatOneQuestion]

"superior to someone else because of what you believe"

That describes every single Christian out there, do you realize that?

And no, I dont believe that at all. I believe my position is solid because of WHAT I CAN PROVE WITH EVIDENCE!!!

You can believe whatever you want, but it only matters what you can validate that actually counts.

[ThatOneQuestion]

"you r the one who is brainwashed."

Thats just your attempt to say "Nah nah nah!!", but you fail.

Think about it, kid. If I think I'm superior because of what I know, that isn't being brainwashed, its being arrogant.

You cant even get your insults out correctly.

Brainwashing has nothing to do with belief, I'll just say that and let you figure the rest out, if you can.

[blankateeblank]

lol......fail.....GOD LOVES YOU.....EVEN IF YOU DONT CARE....

if you only beleive what you can prove to yourself......your mind is stuck on a surface plain of reality...its called carnal thinking

i dont think im supiorior at all....im no better than you ...or anyone else....what i know is what ive learned thro expirience and searching....no one has brainwashed me.life dosent come from a rock soup..spiritual things exist in reality...yet no one can prove them unreal or what purpose they serve.

[blankateeblank]

if you dont want to except that things are more complicated than what you can prove to yourself ,than your limiting yourself to just that.....Jesus was a real man the bible is full of facts....before their time...and prophocy that is real and has come to pass....miricles happen ,no one can prove why they do,but they do....many things are unproven ,but theye still happen....the ocean has never been completly looked at but we know it exists

if you limit your mind to what you believe than u r .

[blankateeblank]

if spiritual things dont exist then why do our so called leaders worship spirtual things....under cover....so one knows...

why do they want to rule the world, and make themselves gods....under a spiritual leader from another dimention.

sci provees that things of the bible r true

sci proves that spirtual things are real...

[blankateeblank]

there r to many things in this world to just flush down the vertual toilet that you cant explain....no one can....and when you say that only facts you can prove to yourself r relavent....your the one who is limited....to your own thinking.

[ThatOneQuestion]

"yet no one can prove them unreal"

HA!!!

And by that logic, you cant disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Shifty the Leprechaun who lives up my anus, so therefor they might be real??

Seriously???

HAHAHAHHA!!!!

Please, use your brain.

[ThatOneQuestion]

"life dosent come from a rock soup, spiritual things exist in reality"

Prove it, otherwise this is your meaningless opinion.

You silly fool, saying MAGIC MAN DUN IT isn't more complicated than understanding even a basic level of modern science describing Evolution and the other natural processes that have lead us here.

That is just a blatant lie to make yourself feel better. How pathetic.

[ThatOneQuestion]

Jesus was a real man... bible full of facts?

Sure-but guess what? Vlad the Impaler was a real man too, but that doesn't mean the LEGENDS and MYTHS surrounding Dracula are real. Same goes for ANY legend. Sure, they all have roots in reality, but there is a thick layer of lies and exaggeration surrounding them.

That is the point.

[ThatOneQuestion]

"if spiritual things dont exist then why do our so called leaders worship spirtual things"

Seriously?? HAHHA!!!

Holy crap you are stupid. Its to get your votes, idiot.

Dont ever trust politicians.

How can you seriously try to validate religion because some people in power choose to display the same religion as the majority of the population.

You are so naive.

[ThatOneQuestion]

Why do you think miracles happen? Because someone who believes like you do said so?

Then I suppose you also believe in UFO abductions? There are millions of those stories too, and they have MORE evidence than you have for religion.

What about the "miracles" attributed to other gods than yours? Do they not count because they arn't for your god??

Every miracle that has been investigated hasn't stood up to any testing and has been revealed to be a sham. You fail.

[ThatOneQuestion]

School, government, and my parents lied to me?

HAHAHAHHA!!! Ohhh you pathetic little child, you just dont have a clue do you?

You are now found to be guilty of lies yourself, breaking one of the Ten Commandments you say you love.

You pathetic idiot.

My parents ARE religious. I live near private Christian schools. There are still Christian laws on the books.

You are such a pathetic liar!

[ThatOneQuestion]

HAHAHHAH!!!

Holy shit, you actually think denying the mysticism and magic of Christianity makes me a "slave" and joining the "herd"??

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!

There is a reason I said debating with you would be like beating the shit out of a retard.

You lied out your ass, use logical fallacies, and more importantly project your psychological issues on to me before attacking them.

You are a pitiful fool, blankateeblank, I seriously feel sorry for you. You probably smoked yourself stupid.

[ThatOneQuestion]

This is why I am rude to intellectual cripples like yourself, you lie.

Not one comment you posted was free from glaring errors that say you are either a child or a brain damaged fool.

Not one of your arguments can stand up to BASIC level debate.

Your lies, fallacies, and psychological projection make it impossible to take you seriously.

Have a nice day, retard. I hope you like that bloody face.

[blankateeblank]

before darwin there was a well known way to see life and the natural world.....it had been that way for a VERY long time before hand.....poeple believed in GOD....

and therefore didnt need a scientist to tell them ,what they already knew.....even among the native poeples of the Americas....was i spiritual knowing of the creator and his creation..they knew this before the white man came...darwins ideas where known..before he wrote them..by the ones who thought them up...imaginations/scapegoat~!!

[Keippernicus]

And for a long time people were dead ass wrong. You need to fact check the native american reference because that's about as off base as mormonism and thanks for being an ill-informed commenter. There are so few of you to go around on the internet.

[blankateeblank]

u obviously think your right,because how could all your scientists be wrong....

hmmm.....and of course your obnoxious...puffed up and ready to brawl....i wonder why....if you where plainly peddleing the truth ,why all the anrger,hatred,put downs.....of the so called poeple who dont know better?

according to you...^^

seems to me your trin to put yourself on a petisle ,so you can feel like oyu know something...rather than plainly giveong out information to an unknowing public..

[Keippernicus]

How can I not feel superior to someone who can't use their keyboard/the english language. Science works, religion is just a bunch of used car salesman trying to con people out of their money.

[blankateeblank]

see thats your problem right there......

your cant even get passed how i wrote what i did...instead you pick on the mistakes....i made....so truth dosent matter....only you matter.....truth dosent matter only your ideas of truth matter.....

have fun makeing yourself feel better....=)

i know it may seem like churchs do a lot of bad things,and some do.but that dosent mean that GOD dosent exisit

it only means that MAN....will ALWAYS keep makieng things worse.when they only think of themselfs

[mickdornfad]

venomfangx is didn't get the memo

[SexyMelon]

Ah, good old argument from authority an majority all in one. "A lot of great people believe X so it must be true." I wonder how they explain away the fact that 98% of all modern scientists are atheists then? Conspiracy on a global scale? All science is false and evil?

Then again, Creationism was first founded as an"anti-science movement", to little surprise of anyone familiar with it today.

[draagon66]

I repeat here a comment I made elsewhere;

The only reason that creationists attack evolution, rather than, say, the Theory of Graviity, is that evolution directly opposes the creation story in Genesis, without which cornerstone, christianity collapses. No Adam & Eve (clearly) = no original sin = no fall from grace = no need for a saviour = no need for the messiah = no need for jesus. The whole shooting match gets cancelled and we can all embrace reality.

Their NEXT target - abiogenesis.

[SexyMelon]

Exactly.

"Hey, we're not against science - we're only against science that contradicts us!"

Although they don't attack just evolution - it's an umbrella term for them - they're also against cosmology, abiogenesis, quantum physics, gravity, biology, statistics, scientific method, logic... Well, yeah, you have to discard a lot to believe in the Garden of Eden.

[draagon66]

" ...evolution - it's an umbrella term for them ..."

So true, as noticed when they are being very specific about evolution yet bring up the big bang as an integral part of it.

Looney-tunes just don't get it, even after it has been explained in words of less than three syllables.

One can only marvel at the low level at which they sit and waste oxygen.

[SexyMelon]

I'm pretty sure they do get it though - they simply ensure that their flock, their cash cow, doesn't.

Nothing new to the world of religion.

[draagon66]

OK - an updated confidence trick, then.

Nah! They MUST believe what they are saying. Surely. How could they sleep at night otherwise?

[Keippernicus]

I think the human brain, which we know is a dual core processor, is capable of running multiple concurrent world views and switching between them when necessary.

[1975DannyB]

Leave it to atheist to never do any fact checking. And produce a fallacy of appealing to majority. at the same time complaining about its use.

First it depending on the scientific field and country. The number of scientist who believe in God will change. For example in the US it is 30-40 percent of scientists acknowledge there is a God or 1 in 3. Arab country's even higher.

So do yourself a favor...don't produce the same fallacy you are complaining about. And learn the facts before hand.

[SexyMelon]

As you may notice by reading the post carefully before replying to it, I never said or implied that atheism among scientists is in any way indication of God's non-existence. It is an indication that knowledge and God don't tend to peacefully co-exist, however.

And 98% is the figure for US specifically as well. One of the most church-ridden countries on the Earth, too.

[1975DannyB]

I was not commenting on that. I was commenting on your use of a fallacy and at the same time using the same fallacy you had been complaining about. As well as you inaccurate numbers. But tell you what back up your "98% is the figure for US specifically" You not only made the claim but continued with it and even narrowed the claim down to the US. So you must have looked it up and not just pulled it out of thin air. So please give me your source for this claim.

[SexyMelon]

For the second time: I brought up the numbers, but I didn't argue from them.

I checked what I could, and it appears you're closer to the truth: about 60% of them are chalked up as atheists (98% among members of NAS, probably what I was thinking of).

It's from studies of James Leuba anyway.

[SexyMelon]

Thanks for being polite and not jumping in with generalisations or using weasel words to assert your view, by the way. It would very mature.

[masticina]

Even if a scientist beliefs in lets say christianity. Then the scientist still is bound anyway to the scientific process.

Spirituality is highly unscientific "it is because I say so". So these scientists who happen to be Christian are scientific at their job as they are being paid for, and personally they are religious. Compartmentalize!

[KaarsUnderlost]

evolution works well in computer science too :)

[draagon66]

Those guys are an embarrassment to homo sapiens.

I wonder why they don't have an 'evolutionist' with an appropriate scientific background on their 'panel' ....

I just hope that they don't have their own children to abuse.

[SexyMelon]

Don't give them ideas. They might invite one of their own to defend "Eviltuionism".

[Keippernicus]

I actually would like to see them use one of their 'creation researchers' to defend evolution. It'd be an easy vid, just narrate over the lame copout straw man arguments with actual refutations and boom.

Much quicker than the normal method.