Anthony Kiritsis - The killing of America

[ninanate16]

i'm his great niece... it's lovely to read your comments. :)

[pyrofella]

As sad as this all is....there are times in our lives that we all could be pushed to this level of rationale.....isn't it ironic that it all seems to be based on money issues....

.....but, once you are dead and gone...you are as poor as the guy in the grave next door...

[decalpro1]

And yes, I knew Tony personally. And the business of turning down a loan application is erroneous. The property was about to be foreclosed. Legally.

[decalpro1]

And yes, I knew Tony personally.

[decalpro1]

The posts on this thread say far more about the nature of America (and some of her citizens) than the incident in 1978.

This incident had nothing to do with race or corporate greed. It had everything to do with a seriously ill and unstable man. Tony was....frankly.....wacko. He's gone now. The world is safer.

[LindaVistaFarms]

In the last statement of the video "the man of progress with the fool of Violence on his back" I was wondering if maybe any of Bernie Maidof clients felt like Tony. Too bad we've let the "nice banker man" make fools of so many of us. Thank you Edward Jones fool me once shame on you, fool me twice same on me.

[ozzyruleshere]

INTENSE!!! I live in Indianapolis and remember this live on the news and to this day dont know who was right or wrong

[kywildcatsfan1972]

I aint saying what He done was right but who could blame him Tony Kiritsis was a hero. when i think of indidanapolis i think of him.

[denmark786]

Greatest country on earth ?!!

Yeh right

Full of shit Geez

[ninanate16]

@denmark786 yes, he was crazy but towards the end of his life he was much better. i do not condone his behavior but sadly i am related to him.

[MrMoydy]

what!? after all that they put him in the crazy house. smh, if dude was black the ploice wouldve shoot him on sight.

[Gowdy43]

For those who think Tony was a hero, you need to know all the facts. The mortgage company repeatedly gave him extra time on his loan. Finally they (those at the mortgage company, not Dick Hall who was president of an affiliated company) told him he had to start making some payments. "Come in and we will talk." Tony didn't want to talk, and he didn't want to make payments. Since the mortgage company head wasn't present that day, he took Dick hostage. Wrong place, wrong time.

[celticlofts]

And I might add that a few more mortgauge brokers and bankers need to have a shotgun stuck in the back of their heads !!

[celticlofts]

Anthony Kiritsis fell behind on his mortgauge and Hall refused to give him more time to catch up on his payments. Kirtsis suspected that Hall and his father wanted the property because it had increased substantially in value.

[akumatiti]

he seems nice

[CBR11X]

Crazy Greek bastard! You gotta give him credit though, pardon the pun, he did think the whole scenario through. He even got away with it. He only had to spend some time at the funny farm.

[IFernando100]

Wonder if he ever got the loan he needed?

[jimpurdie]

that hostage looks like the actor robert duvall.out the godfather.

[jimpurdie]

only in america lol.

[ManicThreat]

He had a wire around his own neck & the trigger...as well as a wire around his barrel and the hostages neck. If the gunman drops, the gun fires.

[mrrk]

is this for real? Why didn't they just take the gun man out at the start?

[cheyennebritbrat]

nice day at work love?

[davidb2989]

amazing...

[terry1919]

holy cow!!!! I do remember this it was my Senior year at Carmel ... I wish I knew the details

[BML8384]

Incredible that this incident has been forgotten- what an Angry place America was in the 70's.

[SoflesViolence]

The narrator has a cool voice

[jimpurdie]

if blacks had no hands and the word motherfucker had never been invented the whole black population would be speechless! lol.

[Ravengaurd6]

@jimpurdie

you like killing people don't you?

[jimpurdie]

@Ravengaurd6 no i never have well not deliberatley with malice or forethought.

[MIKECNW]

And what was the reason for the courts to aquit him?

He knew what he was doing.

[jwesleysmith]

@MIKECNW temporary insanity. was not aquitted. served in a mental institution.

[MIKECNW]

Boy what kind of police dept. allows a hostage taker to take hand cuff and a police car?

[NortonWest]

I remember when this happened, it was live on television for quite a time, very entertaining event.

[KOHF34]

Thank God he didn't kill him. Even though no one was killed, the way I see it, two lives were destroyed that day - Kiritsis and Hall's.

[CreoleCommando]

"we have a saying when two blue eye mofo's devils are fighting it makes God laugh"...

[backwardsmusic]

singar of red hot chili peppers

[EnergyDog23]

Wat?

[goldenfool1971]

@backwardsmusic

read a book

[SPOOKSTR]

@backwardsmusic

lol......no dude...it not him, your thinking of Anthony Kiedis .

[LilDogg12]

omg this guy is the stupidest criminal i've ever seen he walked him down the street with a bunch of witnesses. How dumb!

[mortalpain]

@LilDogg12 He wanted an audience; listen to the things he says when the cameras are on him.

[MalvadoLokote]

notice how most serial killers or ppl that do this kind of shit are WHITE

[SumanutiLudjak]

Yes, you are right. That's also why there are so few murders committed in Africa. It's full of happy and friendly people who wouldn't dream of taking a humans life.

[johannjackunterweger]

@SumanutiLudjak Moses Sithole killed 38 few years ago,it isn t true there are not murders in africa,the fact is that the medias don t give any attention to them.

[jerzy862]

@SumanutiLudjak what are you talking about Africa is a violent and nasty place there are civil wars and genocides all the time

[Zecalran]

@jerzy862 but behind most of those genocide are the former colonial powers for control of those places for their minerals and wealths! Nonethless ppl still fight but how we fight is wat counts!

[jerzy862]

@Zecalran oh stop.

the last colonial powers left in the 60s and 70s. the fact is Africa needs to get its shit together and start being civilized. North America and Europe are nice places to live. Asia and Latin America are rapidly improving. Africa is going to be left behind in the 21st century if it doesnt change its ways.

[raunchy1313]

ya but notice how most people who do drivebys car jackings and kick doors are BLACK

[rogermyhammerstein]

You are fucking ignorant

[cm2dude]

Notice that most serial rapists and gang shooters are black.

[MourningintheMidst]

Last time I looked the klan was white, dude.

[cm2dude]

Last time I looked, The Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, The Zebra Killers, and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab were white, broski.

[MourningintheMidst]

You mean "weren't" white, Cletus

[cm2dude]

Oh wait, they aren't, aren't they? But hey, Black people aren't perfect, either.

[MourningintheMidst]

Deal with the problems in our own race before you speak of others. In other words "cast the beam out thine own eye before thou judgest".

[cm2dude]

I made that comment in regards to a comment that has since been deleted by the original poster. Quite frankly, all races have their problems. But this man, a follower of the "prophet" Elijah Mohammed, seemed to think that all white people were the devil.

I'm pretty sure once he saw the video in the sidebar about Robert Essex that he had to delete his comment.

[MourningintheMidst]

I personally think their could be more to these things--what the CIA calls "behaviour modification" the developed a system to make people go apeshit in the early 50's called "Gittenger's Personality Assessment System -the PAS for short. It modifys the target and the public i.e. even home grown muslims turn into bloodthirsty killers for no reason. John Marks covers it in The Search for the Manchurian Candidate (book) he helped write CIA and the Cult of Intelligence the first book censored in US.

[eatenbacktodeath]

I was wondering if you could post the part where the man holds up the tv station. I can't seem to find that part anywhere.

[holdielox2]

This brings back memories...Dick Hall was my father's best friend and coworker. My mom and dad were there when this all went down. Kiritsis was a very sick man. So thankful he at least made one sane decision in all of this!!!

[jtotheamy]

what the heck? they didnt charge him? and he held him like that for three days

[SockMyDink]

Holy shit that was intense.

Makes you wonder how much stuff like this happens today, but we don't hear about it.

[globe255]

Just a mental sick bastard, and there are tons of them.

[CofCont]

fucking nutter lol hes fucking lost it

[WanderingSplit]

WHAT DRAMA edge of seat stuff.

[WanderingSplit]

He got released from institution in 1988 and died of natural causes in 2005. IMO he should have died in '77.

[MADUSCTZN]

Why, because he retaliated when he was wronged? If this would have happened to the Enron's, Kozlowskis,Ebbers., or (yesterday) John Thain, (BOA), maybe we "little people" wouldn't continue to get screwed, by those in "control". Do you know why Hall turned down Kiritsis' Loan App?.....because HE wanted to get the property Kiritsis was going to sell, and earn some "windfall" profits. Yeah, the "unwashed masses" are entitled to make shrewd business maneuvers too.

[WanderingSplit]

True, but if everyone who gets screwed does that, noone would be safe anywhere. Besides, if Kiritsis was so desperate for finance to keep his property, then he must've overreached or made some bad decisions.

[MADUSCTZN]

I don't disagree that maybe Kiritsis might have made some bad financial moves ( I didn't know him "personally"). But what humbling/dresing down did Wall Street get for "their" financial btrilliance. Maybe the guy deserved a CHANCE".................

[WanderingSplit]

Perhaps he was a risk taker who deserved a chance as u say. However going to jail or being locked up in an institution is not going to hurt those corrupt law makers and greedy conglomerates. I read about this man who went into a law firm and blew away 8 people. I'd love to do that myself. But if i did i'd get locked up too.

[m203508009]

He should have at least serve prison time.

[heresatissue]

I just finished watching this movie about 2 minutes ago. It's a crazy movie. Especially the guy who killed co ed student, chopped their heads off and raped their dead bodies. He a head he was holding that he was going insane..already was insane..

different movie though.

[fendrestrat]

I remember watching this on live television after school,could be considered one of the first reality show's.

[vivaloriflamme]

Mr. Hall seems like a brave man. The gunman was a typical borderline -personality -disorder narcissist. It's all about him.

I've never heard of this incident before. The media presence is frickin' weird.

[arockandrollstory]

a police sniper should have stopped this goofball

[wbopp]

i knew tony and his family. i miss him. If only people know just how he was wronged. there will be a special place in hell for the Hall's of the world.

[gorosXimarra]

where he was from?

[bank4fun]

hmm. if this was a black, latino, or asian man taking paul hostage he would have been shot a long time ago by the excited rookie. trust in god america will pay for being racist.

[BandofBrothersfan92]

there will always be racists.. in all countrys.. not just in america.

[sepiasilence]

you have obviously not been to south africa, one of the most racist places i have been and on a global scale blacks tend to be more vocal and violent racists the whites

[Distrukkt]

I've done research on this story before. Great footage.

[grubbiethebum]

More like the fool of progress and the man of violence.

[grubbiethebum]

Boy, those cops sure showed him what for!

[futurehalloffamer]

idk care if this sparks a race arugment

But nobody mentions race...but if it was a black guy doing this...people would write

"see that why i dont like blacks" and "only a black guy would do that" etc etc

[PanDiMia]

pff, he is one of the best greek traditional singers

[kcsunshine64]

I hope he got the help he needed.

[Lionribbon]

He was confined to a Mental Institution until

1998; he was subsequently released in 1998 when he was deemed no longer a threat to anyone. He passed away in 1995.

[PanDiMia]

are they serious? they arrested Kiritsis? WTF?

[Lionribbon]

He was confined to a Mental Institution until 1998; released when he no longer was deemed a threat. Passed away 2005

[gohman7]

I remember watching this on live TV when I was kid and being very traumatized by it.

I'll never forget Mr Kiritsis' rant "I ain't no Nerves Nelly!!"

[Lionribbon]

This bothered me for a long time also. I googled his name the other day, and found out he was committed to a mental institution until 1998; released when he was no longer deemed a threat to society; passed away 2005.

[SaintWilliamIII]

Thank you,it is great to be able to see this again. From the day this happened, this guy was a hero of mine. This is how the politicians of this country should be treated. In this country, all the laws and regulations revolve around benefiting the rich man,,,,,,,and it needs to stop!

I wish he would have pulled the trigger!

[circlecityusa]

Long Lived Tony Kiritisis.

[Original21NYC]

Long Live Greece BOY!! thats right we love it here, so dont them niggers/ hispanics fuck it all up

[heatsketch]

woulda been better if he had blown that guys head off then taken some cops out before being gunned down

[tacuvo]

haha, that rubberneck runs into a pole...haha

[jimpurdie]

@tacuvo what time in video?

[jimpurdie]

@tacuvo oh the car lol

[flukyluke]

Your couple of examples do not make a case for "a long twisted history". Lots of places in America, big and small have sensationalized crimes, and they are growing, as we are witness to every day. Indianapolis isn't a greater place for mental instability.

[chezdan9]

Richard Hall and his associates totally screwed Kiritsis. I'm not defending his actions, but the man reached the breaking point and just totally flipped out. Indianapolis has a long, twisted history of this kind of mental instability. (see: Burger Chef murders, Brett Kimberlin, et. al.)

Thanks for the flashback!

[vogellied]

How did they totally screw him? He wanted a loan, he didn't get it, so he kidnaps a guy for three days and ties a wire around the two of them and the gun. Doesn't sound like he was a good loan risk if he was that easy to snap.

[chezdan9]

You need to read more history on the matter. It's not as simple as "he didn't get a loan" - there was MUCH more involved in real estate holding, etc. If you live in Indy, it's easy enough to look up in the library with microfiche of the Indy Star/News.

[Lionribbon]

From my memory, he was late on his payment; the grantor was unwilling to extend the terms; due to the fact that the land value had appreciated; so the grantor wanted to foreclose. This is why Kritsis went postal! I remember watching this on TV while I was on Springbreak in Fla; this bothered me for a long time.

[vogellied]

I lived in Carlsbad NM at the time and do not remember it. My point is no matter the reason short of dramatic personal injury to one or ones family does not justify such anti social behavior. Rape, murder, maiming, injury heinous and done with intent does justify whatever act fits the crime. While unjust greedy acts by a corp can destroy a life, it does not warrant what he did. If we all acted upon the anger we feel from personal slights, humanity would cease to exist.

[teagarden8650]

You forgot Steven Judy... How could any Hoosier forget Steven Judy..