"Sorry about that"? Air traffic controller did a similar thing this year and almost put two C-17's into a 777 off Long Island NY. Thankfully their TCAS worked as advertised. This proably happens more than we are aware.
I really hope that the atc moron was kicked out the very next day from the air force. Sorry about that?????. More like sorry i just screwed up big time and almost killed you guys and lost my job at the same time.
@migleycow - bingo means low on fuel. If you notice just after the avoidance maneuver, there is a blinking fuel signal in the centre of the display. It just happens that the aircraft was running low just as it was landing.
@thomasrdean pretty sure bingo fuel can be set to whatever the pilot wants on f-16s. low fuel is a predetermined amount that i don't know. anyway, since he's already at the recovery base i'm not sure what bingo fuel would mean, haha
@stopthatimmediately : I was replying to the comments that were claiming that the airspace separation violation was called a bingo and the other comments asking why an airspace separation violation was called a bingo. I don't know if it can be set on an f-16, and the fact that he's already on base means that low fuel probably isn't an issue. My point was that the bingo bingo warning tone in the cockpit has nothing to do with the airspace separation and was just a coincidence.
@jetwannabe The outline tells me a B-1 which would only be there for an air show...wonder when exactly this happened...a friend of mine that was there for 4 years (on the line) told me he had never heard anything about it...
It would pay for the FAA to have there own channel for proper demonstation of real work but they don't have one. Cheap never pays. Many people ask but still we have youtube. I don't work there my dad did. I don't care to answer questions.
Yes the ATC made a huge mistake, but pilots are also responsible for being aware of the situation and other traffic. They couldn't see him, but both aircraft should have been able to hear them both getting clearance to land on the same active
@snuffy525 Hazardous Air Traffic Report. It's something a controller or pilot can file when they feel there was a close call, dangerous situation, etc
@16piller16lol 150kts is not too fast for these aircraft. Not sure of the exact V speeds but I believe most military jets aim for a 150kts approach speed and try to put the wheels down around 125kts.
HATR was part of his call sign I think, "THE MAD HATR" = The Madhatter from Alice in Wonderland.
haha. thats not a navy controller. air force doesnt actually follow full faa regulations in controlling. the navy as long as you aint scrapping paint were good :)
It was NOT emergency fuel, the pilot even stated min fuel... therefore its MIN fuel. Not that hard to understand. I just love the part where the pilot says "That has to be a HATR, no way around that", haha really? At least at heart he didn't want to file. Just to clear things up about this whole emergency vs minimum vs no fuel thing. Here is the rule.
It was NOT emergency fuel, the pilot even stated min fuel... therefore its MIN fuel. Not that hard to understand. I just love the part where the pilot says "That has to be a HATR, no way around that", haha really? At least at heart he didn't want to file.
It's actually neither a emergency or urgent matter... bingo fuel, which was called out by the aircraft right after the inital point in the go around just means, min fuel to get back (not sure if it counts in reserves) but it is the amount of fuel required to return to base plus some extra for maneuvering
MexCan, there are too many variables in aviation to computerize the ATC system. Trains can be controlled precisely at all times and are on a fixed path, aircraft are not. Computers can add to the safety but it will never be fully computerized. And pu33yassin, maybe you guys need to look out your windows more. Your a VFR controller and pilots will always obey your commands. My base is pretty messed up but all what you said sounds ridiculous and far fetched. Also Navy controllers are certified by
@frauspi "Airman, normally I'd just chew you out, assign you to remedial training and ashcan the Article 15....BUT YOU JUST GOT WRITTEN UP BY THE FRICKIN COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!"
thats why you need to watch your back at all times......human beings are still at the controls. in vancouver our trains are all computerized and since its inagural launch in 1986 there is been ZERO accidents recorded on any of our trains. Airplanes are capable of landing themselves but will need to incorporate a computerized version of ATC so that both pilot and ATC are relics that will join the Wright Brothers in history.
@MexCan65 There's a big difference between trains on fixed tracks and airliners on all kinds of different routes- particularly when they go off-route requiring vectors around thunderstorms. How the FAA's new ADS-B will accomodate those kind of off-route deviation for weather is completely unknown. All pilots should listen to the tower frequency to hear what other airplanes are around and who may have been given a conflicting clearance with them. You can be sure that this pilot does that now!
@MexCan65 Air traffic control will never be replaced by a computer. I'm an air traffic controller at one of the busiest bases in the air force and I've gotten to the point I had eleven planes on my freq at once- thats alot for a vfr tower controller. A computer will never replace human instinct.
The pilot's got to take some of the blame here. Especially since the other airplane is visible in the HUD at 00:12. See and avoid is still the pilot's responsibility in an airport traffic pattern.
We used to have a guy at our class D here that they called "suicide". He'd always forget to call your turn and clear planes for landing with one already positioned and holding. I heard they made him have to be under supervision at all times. I think he got fired or quit because i haven't heard him in a few years.
Im a cessna 152 student pilot. I think all your negative comments are just a bunch of bullshit. Your pissed off cuz your flying career ain't what u thought it be. SUCK IT UP PILOTS. Or you are a bunch if failures that just like to criticize the successfull career of others. Irregardless if they earned it. I am gonna have so much fucking fun with that term "irregardless" later in life lmfao I love it! THANK GOD FOR AL GORE FOR INVENTING THE INTERNET! sarcasm you dipshits.I want employmen!
@HazeGreyAndUnderway not necessarily. bingo means. a certain amount of fuel. depends on the amount you set as bingo. usually enough to get to destination airport.
FOR SURE!!clearance for atc/w12 is ok,but the pilot did not baba-bouilles the left turn on the right;I agree...unless he turns up for landing,he's right!!but,hey!!..never know what the KHW200 will tell you at that moment,so unless i put my balls on your nose,you don't know if you'll have a pair of ray-ban for X-mas.....
@JephirDromulus lol it's a fighter man im a controller you should hear them call up on the radio. sounds like theyre talking into a tin can. Cause they pretty much are lol
Bingo fuel means you have enough fuel to get to your destination base, fly to an alternate base if one is necessary to be filed for weather and land with standard reserves. Fuel bingos are set for safety. The "fuel sloshing" statement is fresh out of your ass too.
@FlightLevelHeaded settle down and take the dick out of your ass, highspeed. i explained it as simply as possible, i didnt want to type some large paragraph for such a simple answer. So fuel doesnt slosh around in the tanks after a sharp bank, huh? How about going inverted? Ok, Ill tell that to my cousin, Ill see what he says. Shows what you know...
@HazeGreyAndUnderway That's fine but you're incorrect. Fuel computers report fuel consumed, not what's in the tanks. What's in the tanks does get "sloshed around" but even during inverted flight the fuel system still feeds the engines. Keep getting your technical data from what others tell you and you'll continue to be entertaining the rest of us.
@FlightLevelHeaded That's not true at all. If it was, then how on earth would fuel computers warn of a low tank due to a leakage or incorrect amounts??
@traceynorthernstar In the situation you are describing, you would have a fuel computer and fuel indicator disagreement and it would be up to the pilot to decide the correct course of action.
@HazeGreyAndUnderway usually there are dividers in the fuel tanks that keeps the fuel from sloshing around. the U2 pilots always complained about the difficult handling in turns because the U2's long wing and did not have dividers in the tanks. most military aircraft have dividers to keep the fuel from sloshing. i dunno what percentage and what aircraft they have it on. seems like mos post 50s would have it.
@HazeGreyAndUnderway there is no such term within the US military air traffic control community as FUEL SLOSHING. tell your cousin what you wish. doesn't make you any less improperly informed.
@csxconductor100 I too am not privy to the off-duty habits of fighter pilots. One doesn't necessarily have to be one to know how systems work or to have good general knowledge of the National Aerospace System.
Freakgeeky, as an air traffic controller myself, I can tell you that controllers make mistakes constantly. In fact, 70% of the services provided by controllers are by rookie controllers with fewer than 3 years experience. It's up to the people standing behind the rookie to fix their mistakes.
Controllers are not robots and WILL and DO make mistakes every day. They may not always be big, but they happen constantly.
"Air traffic controllers are humans." Are you kidding me? They have to be professionals with the ability to make "zero" mistakes when guiding aircraft in for a landing.
Next time you take a trip in an aircraft with your family, you really don't need a focused controller to help you land safely -- they are only human; they are allowed to make mistakes. No big deal!
There is zero tolerance for this. It is our job to prevent collisions like this from happening. The pilot saw the shadow and prevented the collision from happening...not the ATC. As you can see the pilot doesn't even have enough fuel to land after he saw the plane's shadow and prevented the collision. With the video ending early I bet the pilot had to eject. If this were a commercial airliner I dont want to think what could have happend. Without a doubt the ATC lost his job and is better off.
obviously this is a miltary atc,,guess wut, he still has his job. biggest thing that mightve happned is a neg pg 7...mistakes happen in every job no matter how important they are. All u can do is strive for perfection
I highly doubt he lost his job because he is most likely an enlisted position. And I also highly doubt that the pilot ejected because as you see he was very tight in the pattern in a highly maneuverable aircraft. And if he would've had to eject we would've heard about because CNN knows everything. And plus, air traffic controllers are human, and people don't understand that. I'm sure that a report was made and he was able to prove that it was an honest mistake.......
@DayJetFan Thats about correct. If you listen to civilian ATC they clear multiple aircraft to land on the same runway all the time. But they tell them, "Your #2 behind United A320..." or something like that. They make the pilot call out when they have traffic in sight. Then they are given final clearance to make the visual approach taking the personal responsibility to keep separation between them and the others on approach to the same runway.
@DayJetFan Also...to a lesser extent, the pilots of the conflict aircraft share some of the blame. They should have been on frequency and they should have had enough "situational awareness" that they would know the wearabouts of other traffic and should have heard the conflicting clearance.
Who would purposely guide to planes in to crash? Think before you speak man. And commercial airliners never get low enough on fuel to where they have to do anything like this anyways because of the FAA rules on reserves, and pilots can request priority to where they have no aircraft in there way if they need to (in commercial aviation anyways, sure its the same for military). MILITARY pilots are highly trained, he could of easily made a landing within close proximety 2 the runwy
ummm what you say about faa reserves is true but!. commercial aircraft have crashed and performed many maidays because of low fuel. One even landed on a race track. One crashed short of laguardia. tell me about. but its because of pilot stupidy not calculating correctly.
Well the thing is that Faa leaves the emergency part up to the pilot IF the pilot deems His low fuel to be an emergency IT MUST and WILL be treated as an emergency. if the pilot just lets atc know about his fuel status it doesnt mean anything. actually atc can grant priority to the aircraft with the low fuel. but like you say if the pilot ALERTS atc doesnt mean anything. If the pilot DECLARES emergency then hes screwed
@BLaCkKsHeEp "bingo fuel" refers to the fuel amount needed to reach the nearest alternate airfield. just in case something they need to divert to that field for some reason.
@globemaster68 BINGO simply means they have reached the minimum fuel amount required to make it back to base, that isn't an emergency it's merely a caution/ warning.
@meRyanP sorry i misread it, AND sorry for calling you a moron ok. this is a serious apology. i thought BINGO meant an emergency situation. thank you for setting me straight. i dont like to argue about aviation, i do not know everything, and i thought i did that day. again i am sorry.
@globemaster68 to help clear the air. 2-1-8. MINIMUM FUEL- Use of the term “minimum fuel” indicates recognition by a pilot that his/her fuel supply has reached a state where, upon reaching destination, he/she cannot accept any undue delay. This is not an emergency situation but merely an advisory that indicates an emergency situation is possible should any undue delay occur. A minimum fuel advisory does not imply a need for traffic priority. Can't fit the whole rule in but, you get the point.
@BLaCkKsHeEp Well as a pilot,it's not an emergency but it does give you priority for landing over another aircraft that does have the extra fuel available for go around if needed.This pilot wasn't declaring an emergency,but he is required to report minimum fuel.
@TheNightBreaker Nice job failing. Bingo means you have enough fuel to go to another airport which is potentially hundreds of miles away. I don't even think your a controller. I think you want people to think you are.
1:19 sounds like seth rogan saying oh fuck :p
bigred312 2 days ago
"sorry 'bout that" hahahhahahahahahahaha
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 3 weeks ago
ATC guy sounds clueless. Welcome to your new MOS, wing-wiping.
malamagr 4 weeks ago
I thought it was a shadow 2
Psychedelia1969 1 month ago
Bingo Fuel means you are low on fuel.
ScientificExploits 1 month ago
I think they ought to string the pilots for puting the video on youtube,
bruggy29 1 month ago
ladyboy ***
Empty89037 3 months ago
whats that gay bingo sound ?
Empty89037 3 months ago
bingo fuel
(US) A prebriefed amount of fuel for an aircraft that would allow a safe return to the base of intended landing.
chloratum 3 months ago
"Sorry about that"? Air traffic controller did a similar thing this year and almost put two C-17's into a 777 off Long Island NY. Thankfully their TCAS worked as advertised. This proably happens more than we are aware.
TheMILVET 3 months ago
also, what's he saying about "139...sorry, 140" as he's rolling into final? his approach speed?
stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
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stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
I really hope that the atc moron was kicked out the very next day from the air force. Sorry about that?????. More like sorry i just screwed up big time and almost killed you guys and lost my job at the same time.
Sooksawaspakdee961 4 months ago
Is that Edward AFB in California?
bobac1083 4 months ago
@bobac1083 other comments said it was luke. he clears him to land on 03R and edwards doesn't has an 04. luke does
stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
The Mad HATR"whate is it
189DRJAY 5 months ago
What did he almost hit? i cant tell what plane it is.
Nosloveingneko 5 months ago
@Nosloveingneko at 0:42 look at the very bottom of the screen
GPMJC94 5 months ago
@GPMJC94 My guess is that it looks like a B-1
Nosloveingneko 5 months ago
Oooops sorry for almost killing you. How bout I buy you a beer??
RellyOhBoy 5 months ago
Ouch..almost.
In about 1 more second the Newtonian law that "2 solid objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time" would have been tested again.
Aviation has proven it to be valid many many times...seems like they wouldn't want to test it again.
hammerogod 5 months ago
@hammerogod Thats not a newtonian law. Its true - but it wasn't Newton that said it.
neverfearchrisishere 3 months ago
Stupid pilot feared his own shadow.
Axmedkoole 5 months ago
@Axmedkoole it's a B-1 that he almost hit. not his shadow
yoyoyoyoshua 5 months ago 4
Reminds me of VATSIM controllers. They'll steer you into each other then just say "oh, sorry about that."
kewkabe 6 months ago
@kewkabe hey dude, this is real life... stop comparing flight sim to reality.
FlynAggie14 5 months ago
@kewkabe VATSIM??.....This is real life my dude not FS9....you cant respawn at your "previously saved flight" point when you crash
RellyOhBoy 5 months ago
Ok, what happened? I got airsick in the first turn. Crap, now I have to go to Wal-Mart and buy a new keyboard.
oldfart387 6 months ago
Be nice to the air traffic controller, for goodness sakes. He just woke up!
shysterlicious 6 months ago
its an f16
MrClayton174 6 months ago
0:43 f-16 trolling
chimoy1 6 months ago
Ok... Bingo mean the minimum amount of fuel that they safely have. Notice after he pulled up. It said fuel in the middle of the screen
iscope100 7 months ago
And that folks is why we call ATC "fat, dumb and happy."
ptsb5a 7 months ago
I'd hate to have been that ATC guy..........
Darthbelal 7 months ago
whoever cares to know.. yes this is Luke
btpilot91 7 months ago
@btpilot91 And I just left Luke last week for Nellis...don't miss it a bit...
TiBossII 7 months ago 2
@migleycow - bingo means low on fuel. If you notice just after the avoidance maneuver, there is a blinking fuel signal in the centre of the display. It just happens that the aircraft was running low just as it was landing.
thomasrdean 7 months ago 2
@thomasrdean pretty sure bingo fuel can be set to whatever the pilot wants on f-16s. low fuel is a predetermined amount that i don't know. anyway, since he's already at the recovery base i'm not sure what bingo fuel would mean, haha
stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
@stopthatimmediately : I was replying to the comments that were claiming that the airspace separation violation was called a bingo and the other comments asking why an airspace separation violation was called a bingo. I don't know if it can be set on an f-16, and the fact that he's already on base means that low fuel probably isn't an issue. My point was that the bingo bingo warning tone in the cockpit has nothing to do with the airspace separation and was just a coincidence.
thomasrdean 3 months ago
@thomasrdean fair enough!
stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
looks more like an F-15
jetwannabe 7 months ago
@jetwannabe The outline tells me a B-1 which would only be there for an air show...wonder when exactly this happened...a friend of mine that was there for 4 years (on the line) told me he had never heard anything about it...
TiBossII 6 months ago
@TiBossII you mean this was during an airshow? or what airshow are you talking about?
jetwannabe 6 months ago
@jetwannabe No I meant maybe (if it was a B1) they were arriving for the air show...
TiBossII 6 months ago
@TiBossII oh i see. yeah, its almost impossible to tell for sure
jetwannabe 6 months ago
can't elaborate on the history behind the word bingo, but that's an f-16 below them. They're THAT close.
suraxis 7 months ago
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"I dont even want to tell you what I saw"....wtf else could it have been that you saw?
devildog4lifeurr 8 months ago
@devildog4lifeurr their lives were in danger... remember that...
A10pilot617 6 months ago
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devildog4lifeurr 8 months ago
Bingo Bingo
wingzero1984 8 months ago 11
So what was it landing? The shadow looked huge.
Daehawk 8 months ago
It would pay for the FAA to have there own channel for proper demonstation of real work but they don't have one. Cheap never pays. Many people ask but still we have youtube. I don't work there my dad did. I don't care to answer questions.
redviper2GAMER 8 months ago
@TracyAndersonFoxhunt you can go fuck a platypus you worthless faggot!
crazyjoefound 9 months ago
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lol...this is a game(F-16 Multi-role fighter) not an actual video
shazibzaffar 9 months ago
@shazibzaffar haha no. its a real video. you can see the plane they almost landed on when they line up on final.
umbc91 9 months ago
Yes the ATC made a huge mistake, but pilots are also responsible for being aware of the situation and other traffic. They couldn't see him, but both aircraft should have been able to hear them both getting clearance to land on the same active
AirForceAuxiliaryNCO 9 months ago
TCAS System Test Fail!
insylem 9 months ago
Luke i am yNOT that stupid joke again, please......
ZzRvXzZ 10 months ago
when fuel is 006 is it 600liters or how much? or just 600 liters
HKS134 10 months ago
Whats "HATR" ??
snuffy525 10 months ago
@snuffy525 says in the info.
blueb0g 10 months ago
@snuffy525 Hazardous Air Traffic Report. It's something a controller or pilot can file when they feel there was a close call, dangerous situation, etc
clearedapproach77 10 months ago
is 150 knots too fast for landing? And HATR?
16piller16lol 10 months ago
@16piller16lol 150kts is not too fast for these aircraft. Not sure of the exact V speeds but I believe most military jets aim for a 150kts approach speed and try to put the wheels down around 125kts.
HATR was part of his call sign I think, "THE MAD HATR" = The Madhatter from Alice in Wonderland.
Roudy1331 9 months ago
@Roudy1331 HATR = Hazardous Air Traffic Report
unclesara 8 months ago
@16piller16lol it is typical for fighters, touch down is on about 120-130
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
haha. thats not a navy controller. air force doesnt actually follow full faa regulations in controlling. the navy as long as you aint scrapping paint were good :)
bubu101502 10 months ago
This is definately a trainee controller. lol his monitor probably lit his ass up hardcore after that.
lrafbbullrider 11 months ago
@lrafbbullrider
Well its his monitors fault for letting it happen and not doing anything about it.
beyondthevast 10 months ago
this is at Luke in Pheonix AZ I believe. Vance doesn't have F-16's. At least I think its an f-16
lrafbbullrider 11 months ago
omg
josephiles 11 months ago
what is a HATR people?
Dmetrey437 1 year ago
@Dmetrey437 If you'd read the damn description....you'd know that it means "Hazardous Air Traffic Report"
LongBeachPits562 11 months ago
@LongBeachPits562 lol your right
Dmetrey437 11 months ago
@Dmetrey437 lol...
LongBeachPits562 11 months ago
It was NOT emergency fuel, the pilot even stated min fuel... therefore its MIN fuel. Not that hard to understand. I just love the part where the pilot says "That has to be a HATR, no way around that", haha really? At least at heart he didn't want to file. Just to clear things up about this whole emergency vs minimum vs no fuel thing. Here is the rule.
chschluter 1 year ago
It was NOT emergency fuel, the pilot even stated min fuel... therefore its MIN fuel. Not that hard to understand. I just love the part where the pilot says "That has to be a HATR, no way around that", haha really? At least at heart he didn't want to file.
chschluter 1 year ago
was the other plane above them or below?
jhurst111 1 year ago
Bingo just means he is at the fuel he needs to get back to base, make a pass and then go to the alterant landing base..
Yes, it was a screw up by ATC, but not a fuel emergency.
MasterSun42 1 year ago 2
tcas?
CmtePiu 1 year ago
Where was that plane in relation to you on finals?
tnobe3 1 year ago
It's actually neither a emergency or urgent matter... bingo fuel, which was called out by the aircraft right after the inital point in the go around just means, min fuel to get back (not sure if it counts in reserves) but it is the amount of fuel required to return to base plus some extra for maneuvering
yauden 1 year ago
It appears to be Enid AFB OKLA from the air. Does anyone know? They have up to 300 aircraft aloft at any given time, AF and Navy.
Vindicator58 1 year ago
MexCan, there are too many variables in aviation to computerize the ATC system. Trains can be controlled precisely at all times and are on a fixed path, aircraft are not. Computers can add to the safety but it will never be fully computerized. And pu33yassin, maybe you guys need to look out your windows more. Your a VFR controller and pilots will always obey your commands. My base is pretty messed up but all what you said sounds ridiculous and far fetched. Also Navy controllers are certified by
ValhallaOrBust85 1 year ago
the shadow of the approaching plane at 0:42 D: AHHHHHH
thesecret14 1 year ago
what the family
MSR651 1 year ago
HAHA, it sounds like George Bush flying
frauspi 1 year ago
@frauspi "Airman, normally I'd just chew you out, assign you to remedial training and ashcan the Article 15....BUT YOU JUST GOT WRITTEN UP BY THE FRICKIN COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!"
SCE2AUX 10 months ago
I know what I saw.... BROWN TROUSERS !!!!
RoadRunnerLaser 1 year ago
thats why you need to watch your back at all times......human beings are still at the controls. in vancouver our trains are all computerized and since its inagural launch in 1986 there is been ZERO accidents recorded on any of our trains. Airplanes are capable of landing themselves but will need to incorporate a computerized version of ATC so that both pilot and ATC are relics that will join the Wright Brothers in history.
MexCan65 1 year ago
@MexCan65 There's a big difference between trains on fixed tracks and airliners on all kinds of different routes- particularly when they go off-route requiring vectors around thunderstorms. How the FAA's new ADS-B will accomodate those kind of off-route deviation for weather is completely unknown. All pilots should listen to the tower frequency to hear what other airplanes are around and who may have been given a conflicting clearance with them. You can be sure that this pilot does that now!
StratMatt777 1 year ago
@MexCan65 Air traffic control will never be replaced by a computer. I'm an air traffic controller at one of the busiest bases in the air force and I've gotten to the point I had eleven planes on my freq at once- thats alot for a vfr tower controller. A computer will never replace human instinct.
lrafbbullrider 11 months ago
The pilot's got to take some of the blame here. Especially since the other airplane is visible in the HUD at 00:12. See and avoid is still the pilot's responsibility in an airport traffic pattern.
nocalsteve 1 year ago
5 points for the pilot for excellent reflex :)
what a weird ATC :\
Petroholic88 1 year ago
@Rookmang It was his hungry man tv dinner burning in the oven.Probably meatloaf or fried chicken!
57bigjoe 1 year ago
It's gonna happen again..........you can count on it.
khalsasikh 1 year ago
b i n g e o
bingo
was it's name o
grunt182820 1 year ago
We used to have a guy at our class D here that they called "suicide". He'd always forget to call your turn and clear planes for landing with one already positioned and holding. I heard they made him have to be under supervision at all times. I think he got fired or quit because i haven't heard him in a few years.
RayAir1 1 year ago
must have been a navy asshole
TracyAndersonFoxhunt 1 year ago 19
@TracyAndersonFoxhunt very funny wise ass
HazeGreyAndUnderway 1 year ago 20
@HazeGreyAndUnderway Whats the navy got to do with the Federal Aviation?
XGViper2gamer 1 year ago
@TracyAndersonFoxhunt Navy atc would never let this happen.
coolsax64 10 months ago
@TracyAndersonFoxhunt Def describes as an Air force
ggtpro 7 months ago
@TracyAndersonFoxhunt your fucking stupid. is was just a stupid atc. why dont you join the navy or shut the fuck up you arrogant prick
krackerjacx 6 months ago
He couldn't see the other F-16 from his "bubble canopy"? Mabey this guy shouldn't be flying a fighter!
bujoun76 1 year ago
Im a cessna 152 student pilot. I think all your negative comments are just a bunch of bullshit. Your pissed off cuz your flying career ain't what u thought it be. SUCK IT UP PILOTS. Or you are a bunch if failures that just like to criticize the successfull career of others. Irregardless if they earned it. I am gonna have so much fucking fun with that term "irregardless" later in life lmfao I love it! THANK GOD FOR AL GORE FOR INVENTING THE INTERNET! sarcasm you dipshits.I want employmen!
t008er 1 year ago
everybody stop panicking
TracyAndersonFoxhunt 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway not necessarily. bingo means. a certain amount of fuel. depends on the amount you set as bingo. usually enough to get to destination airport.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
FOR SURE!!clearance for atc/w12 is ok,but the pilot did not baba-bouilles the left turn on the right;I agree...unless he turns up for landing,he's right!!but,hey!!..never know what the KHW200 will tell you at that moment,so unless i put my balls on your nose,you don't know if you'll have a pair of ray-ban for X-mas.....
aligoulou 1 year ago
Who was flying the plane, darth vader?
JephirDromulus 1 year ago 2
@JephirDromulus lol it's a fighter man im a controller you should hear them call up on the radio. sounds like theyre talking into a tin can. Cause they pretty much are lol
lrafbbullrider 11 months ago
@JephirDromulus the mic is in the pilot's oxygen mask, thus the emphasized breathing noises in cockpit recordings.
stopthatimmediately 3 months ago
No TCAS on military aircraft?
jrockway 1 year ago
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1pomofo 1 year ago
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I don't understand, could someone tell me what happened, and what the problem was please.
samborlon 1 year ago
I don't understand, could someone tell me what happened, and what the problem was please.
samborlon 1 year ago
Funny as hell how the pilot freaked!! He almost crapped his pants! LOL
Damn Air Force!!
Go NAVY!
pm2424 1 year ago
That was an F-111 underneath, wow he screwed up!!!!!!!
KatsToy 1 year ago
Hope that wasn't the TWR controller's checkout... ouch.
TheAliasMen 1 year ago
everyone is always an expert
swinn101 1 year ago
This ATC is obviously not paying any attention and being in the military he definitely got chewed out afterwards.
CombatRadar 1 year ago
Was that real, cuz the shadow looked kind of fake to me! However, i suspect that this is real, considering mistakes are made all the time for atc's.
PenguinsFanatic87 1 year ago
hi!
GLITCHMONKEY4 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway Bullshit.
Bingo fuel means you have enough fuel to get to your destination base, fly to an alternate base if one is necessary to be filed for weather and land with standard reserves. Fuel bingos are set for safety. The "fuel sloshing" statement is fresh out of your ass too.
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
@FlightLevelHeaded SHIT I THOUGHT BINGO MENT BINGOOOOO I WON SOME SHIT LOL.
MiLoTi85 1 year ago
@FlightLevelHeaded settle down and take the dick out of your ass, highspeed. i explained it as simply as possible, i didnt want to type some large paragraph for such a simple answer. So fuel doesnt slosh around in the tanks after a sharp bank, huh? How about going inverted? Ok, Ill tell that to my cousin, Ill see what he says. Shows what you know...
HazeGreyAndUnderway 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway That's fine but you're incorrect. Fuel computers report fuel consumed, not what's in the tanks. What's in the tanks does get "sloshed around" but even during inverted flight the fuel system still feeds the engines. Keep getting your technical data from what others tell you and you'll continue to be entertaining the rest of us.
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
@FlightLevelHeaded That very much depends on the aircraft you fly.
skipplet 1 year ago
@FlightLevelHeaded That's not true at all. If it was, then how on earth would fuel computers warn of a low tank due to a leakage or incorrect amounts??
traceynorthernstar 1 year ago
@traceynorthernstar In the situation you are describing, you would have a fuel computer and fuel indicator disagreement and it would be up to the pilot to decide the correct course of action.
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway usually there are dividers in the fuel tanks that keeps the fuel from sloshing around. the U2 pilots always complained about the difficult handling in turns because the U2's long wing and did not have dividers in the tanks. most military aircraft have dividers to keep the fuel from sloshing. i dunno what percentage and what aircraft they have it on. seems like mos post 50s would have it.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway dose instruments are kool, makes it easy to keep track
ballm0use 1 year ago
@HazeGreyAndUnderway there is no such term within the US military air traffic control community as FUEL SLOSHING. tell your cousin what you wish. doesn't make you any less improperly informed.
liltypsy 1 year ago
@FlightLevelHeaded i did not know fighter pilots hang out on youtube
csxconductor100 1 year ago
@csxconductor100 I too am not privy to the off-duty habits of fighter pilots. One doesn't necessarily have to be one to know how systems work or to have good general knowledge of the National Aerospace System.
fuck you, by the way
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
What do the pilot and air traffic controller have in common? If the pilot screws up the pilot dies. If the atc screws up, the pilot dies....
flynmonkey05 1 year ago 2
@flynmonkey05 haha thx for sharing
chrigiammann 1 year ago
@chrigiammann
You bet. Had stuff like that happen to me in the civilian world.
flynmonkey05 1 year ago
WOW sounds like GW Bush at the end. LOL Right? hahaha
jodecci 1 year ago
Just banking the plane 90 degrees at the end like its no ones business. God I want to do that.
Ryan92Ex 1 year ago
O ya ..thats right. It is a HATR. There is no way around that.
sadiamel 1 year ago
Freakgeeky, as an air traffic controller myself, I can tell you that controllers make mistakes constantly. In fact, 70% of the services provided by controllers are by rookie controllers with fewer than 3 years experience. It's up to the people standing behind the rookie to fix their mistakes.
Controllers are not robots and WILL and DO make mistakes every day. They may not always be big, but they happen constantly.
ValhallaOrBust85 1 year ago 3
@ValhallaOrBust85
True. I have close to 3 years of experience in radar... how ever wouldnt consider myself a rookie.
thebloody1 1 year ago
Pilot-SORRY ABOUT THAT?!
syarilrock 2 years ago 15
that guy was PISSED
effinyeah 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
well even if they run out of fuel they can glide around to land. fuel isnt too much of a problem
xxkevinxx323 2 years ago
Oh, fuel? On a flying aircraft? A problem? No, please, come on. No, no. It´s going to land anyway, right? One way or another...
manteaca 2 years ago
"Air traffic controllers are humans." Are you kidding me? They have to be professionals with the ability to make "zero" mistakes when guiding aircraft in for a landing.
Next time you take a trip in an aircraft with your family, you really don't need a focused controller to help you land safely -- they are only human; they are allowed to make mistakes. No big deal!
Idiot!
freakgeeky 2 years ago 3
cant argue with that BUT ppl do make mistakes.
"a "holy-fucking-shit, i almost killed someone" moment... you'll all have em"
BLaCkKsHeEp 2 years ago
It looks like he had about 60 lbs of fuel left but am not sure. it said Fuel 006b so thats what i was guessing.
rex669 2 years ago
Air traffic controllers are humans OK.
christychackojohn 2 years ago 4
He probably is now working in the back doing admin work, or just quit from being sick of all the QA shit he has to deal with.
cappy1356 2 years ago
There is zero tolerance for this. It is our job to prevent collisions like this from happening. The pilot saw the shadow and prevented the collision from happening...not the ATC. As you can see the pilot doesn't even have enough fuel to land after he saw the plane's shadow and prevented the collision. With the video ending early I bet the pilot had to eject. If this were a commercial airliner I dont want to think what could have happend. Without a doubt the ATC lost his job and is better off.
TheNightBreaker 2 years ago
obviously this is a miltary atc,,guess wut, he still has his job. biggest thing that mightve happned is a neg pg 7...mistakes happen in every job no matter how important they are. All u can do is strive for perfection
reesman19 2 years ago 4
THANK YOU
DayJetFan 2 years ago
Dont be dramatic. I doubt the pilot was in on fumes dude.
ManservantPablo 2 years ago
Don't be so dramatic he didn't have to eject. He is just low on fuel, plenty to land.
monkeysnatch1 2 years ago 3
you must not be a controller!!! LOL the guy didnt lose his job they probably promoted him to supervisor! thats what the faa does
chris6558 2 years ago
I highly doubt he lost his job because he is most likely an enlisted position. And I also highly doubt that the pilot ejected because as you see he was very tight in the pattern in a highly maneuverable aircraft. And if he would've had to eject we would've heard about because CNN knows everything. And plus, air traffic controllers are human, and people don't understand that. I'm sure that a report was made and he was able to prove that it was an honest mistake.......
DayJetFan 2 years ago
@DayJetFan Thats about correct. If you listen to civilian ATC they clear multiple aircraft to land on the same runway all the time. But they tell them, "Your #2 behind United A320..." or something like that. They make the pilot call out when they have traffic in sight. Then they are given final clearance to make the visual approach taking the personal responsibility to keep separation between them and the others on approach to the same runway.
JetMechMA 1 year ago
@DayJetFan Also...to a lesser extent, the pilots of the conflict aircraft share some of the blame. They should have been on frequency and they should have had enough "situational awareness" that they would know the wearabouts of other traffic and should have heard the conflicting clearance.
JetMechMA 1 year ago
CONTINUED.....
Who would purposely guide to planes in to crash? Think before you speak man. And commercial airliners never get low enough on fuel to where they have to do anything like this anyways because of the FAA rules on reserves, and pilots can request priority to where they have no aircraft in there way if they need to (in commercial aviation anyways, sure its the same for military). MILITARY pilots are highly trained, he could of easily made a landing within close proximety 2 the runwy
DayJetFan 2 years ago
ummm what you say about faa reserves is true but!. commercial aircraft have crashed and performed many maidays because of low fuel. One even landed on a race track. One crashed short of laguardia. tell me about. but its because of pilot stupidy not calculating correctly.
amediastintas 1 year ago
low fuel = not an emergency.
BLaCkKsHeEp 2 years ago 17
low fuel Can become an emergency if the Pilot deems it to be. according to FARS. not sure what it is in other countries
amediastintas 1 year ago
yeah of course but just the general, LOW FUEL alert doesnt really count as an emergency.
BLaCkKsHeEp 1 year ago
Well the thing is that Faa leaves the emergency part up to the pilot IF the pilot deems His low fuel to be an emergency IT MUST and WILL be treated as an emergency. if the pilot just lets atc know about his fuel status it doesnt mean anything. actually atc can grant priority to the aircraft with the low fuel. but like you say if the pilot ALERTS atc doesnt mean anything. If the pilot DECLARES emergency then hes screwed
amediastintas 1 year ago
@BLaCkKsHeEp "bingo fuel" refers to the fuel amount needed to reach the nearest alternate airfield. just in case something they need to divert to that field for some reason.
jrhfstlr212 1 year ago
@BLaCkKsHeEp Its not an emergency, but it is an urgency.
furtjager117 1 year ago
@BLaCkKsHeEp your a moron, no fuel no fly. damn right bingo fuel is a freeking emergency!!!!
globemaster68 1 year ago
@globemaster68 BINGO simply means they have reached the minimum fuel amount required to make it back to base, that isn't an emergency it's merely a caution/ warning.
meRyanP 1 year ago
@meRyanP sorry i misread it, AND sorry for calling you a moron ok. this is a serious apology. i thought BINGO meant an emergency situation. thank you for setting me straight. i dont like to argue about aviation, i do not know everything, and i thought i did that day. again i am sorry.
globemaster68 1 year ago 2
@globemaster68 to help clear the air. 2-1-8. MINIMUM FUEL- Use of the term “minimum fuel” indicates recognition by a pilot that his/her fuel supply has reached a state where, upon reaching destination, he/she cannot accept any undue delay. This is not an emergency situation but merely an advisory that indicates an emergency situation is possible should any undue delay occur. A minimum fuel advisory does not imply a need for traffic priority. Can't fit the whole rule in but, you get the point.
chschluter 1 year ago
@globemaster68
if you READ what i said, you'll know that im not talking about having absolutely no fuel.
im talkin about LOW FUEL not NO FUEL.
BLaCkKsHeEp 1 year ago
@BLaCkKsHeEp Well as a pilot,it's not an emergency but it does give you priority for landing over another aircraft that does have the extra fuel available for go around if needed.This pilot wasn't declaring an emergency,but he is required to report minimum fuel.
cdubois13 1 year ago
@BLaCkKsHeEp Bingo can be set at any level on any modern fighter. I can set the bingo counter at 13,000 pounds if I wanted to.
suraxis 1 year ago
@suraxis
thanks for the input, would you happen to know why is it called "Bingo" btw, of all words?
it also seems that no one really thought to figure out what the shadow is....it's definitely something big, perhaps a tanker or even B-2?
migleycow 7 months ago
@TheNightBreaker Nice job failing. Bingo means you have enough fuel to go to another airport which is potentially hundreds of miles away. I don't even think your a controller. I think you want people to think you are.
axcfds 1 year ago