_all_ barrels flex when fired. Bull barrels less of course, but still. Even .22 barrels flex. Some more than others. One of the main reason why sights have to be readjusted for different kinds of ammo, the bullet leaves the barrel at different phase of the sinewave motion.
I'd trust either and own civi versions of both had no problems with either. My dust cover on the ak throws brass in the same place 1:00 position my AR throws it at 5:00 over shoulder. I prefer my AR due to better options and ergos but mainly because it's our standard rifle parts are everywhere if the ak was standard I'd like that better
argue with this guy HunterKiller308 he thinks the ar-15 is the worlds best assault rifle every created by man and thinks anything besides the ar-15 is shit
Is this from the documentary where their "Expert" couldnt hit a body target at 200 yards with the ak? I can hit one 9/10 times with my romanian knock off at 200 idk what he was smoking
AR barrel flex is minimum because the barrel thickness compared to the power generated by the bullet& the AR's tight tolerances interconnecting to re-inforce the rigidity of the weapon make it extremely accurate because of its stability. Do you think the AR would have been used so long if there wasn't anything going for it? The AK47's great reliability doesn't come without a price, ie accuracy, weight&efficient ergonomics. U won't find a perfect weapon, u gotta find what meets ur needs best.
i think part of the reason this particular ak jerks so much is because its recoil spring has almost no tension. Its hardly able to slow down the bolt at all before it hits the back of the gun. Ive personally done slowmo shots on my ak and my spring works so well that it almost stops the bolt from hitting the back alltogether, reducing that violent kick.
The AK-47 is inaccurate compared to an M-16. if you fire 1 M-16 round you can kill me but if I fire 3 Ak rounds I have the same probabilities on killing the M16 guy.... Some people say Ohh the M4 is better then what is the AK-74, AK-103 and the new AN-94.
@zerocker45 If the AK wasn't a good gun, it wouldn't be so widely used with so many replicas and variants - it's cheap, sturdy and does its job well. Not bad for a gun designed over 64 years ago.
@zerocker45 would you rather pay 15000$ for an m-16 that is not even close to the stopping power durability reliability of a 700$ ak-47? the only advantage m-16 has is the accuracy recoil its attachment availability
@MrDip02 M16's do not cost near $15,000 to make or buy (except for the select fire rifles on the civilian market; but only because they are few and can charge that much). The average cost is actually a little over $1000.
@DaVo6565 Yes it does. Jams like your dick. Have you ever watched maybe only a shooting range video about it when the guy turns it on fully automatic it jams after a little burst..
@pefha they both have their strengths and weaknesses but the m4 is way more versitile dude,.,,,i dont thinks that ak 47 is bad ak 47 is a legend but i think that m4a1 is still better
@DaVo6565 Well m4 is very accurate and nice ergonomic design, but if i would go to desert i would choose a fucking ak-47 because it's FAR more reliable.
All barrels flex to some degree when fired! I saw this segment on Discovery and the part where they show the AR barrel, they don't show the end of the AR barrel! If they did you would see it flex too!
@sk8tafrnk every gun barrel flexes dumbass infact the barrel from the ar-15 flexes as much as that of an ak-47 actually even more /watch?v=PEBMlfhlxYg
I don't play CoD, it's a terrible game. I am familiar however with physics. Traditional gun geometry dictates that your barrel will typically flex upward.
@tartredarrow haha lol just forgot 2 insult u....u friken retard...sayin barrets barrel flexes as much as the ak47s one and then u send a video of an accuracy international as50 for showing me that a barrets barrel is just moving that much...
@Tantojutsuninpo im fucking sick of retards saying shit like that. You come over to my house and ill fucking shoot you with my .22 and we will see how you are feeling.
Китайская пародия АК-47. Нам на ДПЮ (Допризовная Подготовка Юношей) рассказывали о таких. Говорят, что из-за неправильно подобраного сплава ствола, такого автомата хватает на не больше чем 1000 выстрелов. Потом он просто "плюёться", после чего пуля падает метров через 20-30.
The AK-47 is a reliable, sturdy, and inexpensive firearm and while those are commendable traits in an assualt rifle it is not, nor has it ever been, a high-quality weapon.
@imallpissedoff have you fired one? inaccurate compared to what? Why are you only looking at the downsides? Why can that "Piece of shit" operate under the most extreme of environments where many modern guns would jam?
If the AK wasn't a good gun, it wouldn't be so widely used with so many replicas and variants - it's cheap, sturdy and does its job well. Not bad for a gun designed over 64 years ago.
@ipicko There are many much better assault rifles that out class and out perform it in many criterias. The only reason why its so widely used is not due to its quality, but due to its numbers and access. Its so cheap because its a stamped gun, and there are so many you can buy large quantities of them for virtually nothing. Its a mediocre weapon. As for reproductions, those are made based on popularity value and somewhat of a cult following. Much of its popularity is based on films.
@MrNosfaratu Also AK can use in almost any harsh environment like buried dust, sand, mud, and put under water. AK users do not always have to clean them, good example is the Viet Cong, most of them rarely cleaned their AK and still shoot fine. I remember back in my country, in the boot camp once my commander buried an AKM under mud then wait for it to dry, the gun worked perfectly fine with emptying the whole mag.
@MrNosfaratu Name one. I think you're missing the point of the AK-47: Cost effectiveness. There were NO other guns that were as cost effective of the same period, except perhaps the Stg.44 (upon which the AK is based) but Germany had just lost WW2 at that point, so not many were made. The design has stood the test of time, and has evolved into designs like the AN-94 which are comparable to modern guns in terms of performance.
@ipicko The FN FAL, more or less during the same time period. Cheap and easy to make, much more powerful cartridge, much more accurate, much better product quality. It is also robust and fairs well under harsh weather and terrain. It is a much better firearm than the AK in most respects. Sure its hard to brake, but what gun isn't? It is a mediocre weapon. Not only that, it was pretty much outdated by much better guns before and after its time. Russians have never truly made a gun themselves.
@MrNosfaratu I absolutely love how say "Russians have never truly made a gun themselves." Especialy when the G41 and G43 rifles of WW2 were based off of the SVT 40 and how the mosin nagant was the only bolt action of WW2 that wasn't a mauser clone. also the FAL is a battle rifle, not an assault rifle go compare it to an SVT-40 or an SVD then you won't get in terms of accuracy, power or reliability. Go shoot an AK on automatic and mildly controllable. Try that with an FAL.
@AbyssalHunt3r The FAL has other variants and models to suit what ever situation you are going to be in. The FAL also has variants that chamber the .308 or 5.56x45 NATO. If I really wanted to then I could easily shoot it in controllable bursts. Where did you get the idea that the rifles you mentioned were based of off the SVT? From Wikipedia? The germans have been in search for a semi auto rifle since they made the successful Gewehr 98. The SVT came on year before, does not mean it was original.
@AbyssalHunt3r Besides, the Mosin-Nagant isn't fully Russian. The gun designer Nagant who truly designed the rifle was Belgian. As for the Semi auto rifles, there was rifle made by some Mexican gun designer who patented his design in the late 1800's. If you want you can say that was one of the few first Semi auto rifles in existence. Most and every other gun the Russians claim to be theirs is based off of other guns. The Tokarev TT-33 is basically a colt, the Makarov is basically the Walther PP.
@MrNosfarat Ok where did the mexican thing come from? Also go search the Mosin-Nagant on wikipedia, then read the part titled "Nagant's Legal Dispute." And yes, you are correct about the makarov, but the TT pistol used Browning's short recoil dropping-barrel system from the M1911, thats it. If every gun that had one principle from another then every revolver is a clone of the revolver that Samuel Colt originally designed way back when.
Look, don't get me wrong I love all guns. I have a SKS and adore it. I do have to say though, even if it just used the short recoil spring system, the over all design mimics the Colt. Most revolvers are clones of each other anyway. Imagine this, the revolver is a simple design. Even sometimes dubbed 'caveman simple'. How much more can you innovate into them? The Mexican thing is an actual rifle, I just can't remember the name since its something unusual. Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
@MrNosfaratu I know wikipedia isn't a reliable source it just sum'd up the info I have heard numerous time before. The TT-33 doesn't even look like the colt. It looks like an FN pistol that was made in 1903. Keep in mide that the internal workings are very different from the FN pistol.
I can understand that it does not look exactly like the Colt, however that pistol you are referring to is also a Browning designed gun. If similarity strikes you more with that pistol consider the designer the same. If we are thinking of the same pistol of course. Yet it is more over a Browning basis if you will. Generally If a pistol is made with the Browning short recoil system, it tends to usually be the same in function. The idea is that Russians have never TRULY made their own design.
@MrNosfaratu The FAL is perhaps the only comparable gun, but it shares a common ancestry with the AK anyway, and it was produced in fewer numbers. I don't know what you mean about the Russians never truly made a gun themselves - the same implication could be said of any gun manufacturer, they're all based on similar principles that the Germans are probably responsible for.
@ipicko This is true. Yet all the early Russian guns have been pretty much blatant knock offs of German design. In a few other cases the Russians have made not but minor changes to guns that have been designed by Norwegians for the most part. Russians now have a wide variety of what could be considered uniquely theirs. There a few more comparable guns to the AK. In terms, either far fetched or still bridging in similarity. Frankly take any stamped firearm made in that period and compare away.
@AbyssalHunt3r I'm sorry but I don't know how you've drawn that conclusion. Place an AK-74 and STG-44 side-by-side and you can see that the AK is quite clearly descended from the STG, whereas the Garand became the basis of the M14, it's just an entirely different weapon.
@ipicko AK 47 firing accuracy is really bad, however the bullet damages are horrible. People who got hit M16 in a less fatality spot can be saved, but not 7.62×39 bullet. It rips off your flesh with a huge wound.
@hck112 Umm no not at all look at ballistics test of 5.56 vs 7.62x39 the 5.56 tumbles and yaws and leaves SO MUCH hydrostatic shock its not even funny the 7.62 almost sails straight through leaving a .30 cal hole while the 5.56 tumbles and fragments inside the body.
There is no such thing as stopping power. I've seen deer shot with the highest of magnum calibers and still run off. The real killer is diced flesh and organs.
@AGeekWithAShotgun well i'm sorry if your shooting anything less than a 30-30 your not very smart. If you can't drop a deer with that, your just a bad shot. Its not the gun nor the round. Back on topic. A 7.62 will probably knock you on your ass. Its going to kill you. A 5.56 will make you bleed and feel a lot of pain.
I've been shot in the shoulder with a .308 while hunting, I'm fine. You don't understand the power of the 5.56x45mm. My Grandfather-in-law served in Vietnam, and he was hit by friendly-fire from an M16. He was hit in the thigh and they found the round 2 inches from his heart. THAT is why it is so lethal, it tumbles around the body hitting major organs, while rifle cartridges just blow clean through.
By the, 7.62xwhat? 7.62 is a bullet diameter, not a caliber. smart one.
And I never said I was hunting with 5.56x45mm, I'm just saying stopping power doesn't exist. It's a myth, and the myth is widely confirmed by gun enthusiast abroad (those with brains, at least).
Why do you think the Soviets switched over to the 5.45x39.5mm cartridge? Because they knew the M16 was a true killer, and they needed a round that could do as such.
@AGeekWithAShotgun actually no they switched over for the same reason the NATO did. They switched over cause you can carry more ammo for the same weight. More lead down range means more dead enemies.
@AGeekWithAShotgun Again no, please leave your bias aside when talking about things which do not need to include "emotions" or "my dad is bigger then yours". Soviets/Russians changed to 5.45x39mm from 7.62x39mm because of simple logic. This logic is a soldier can carry more ammo. End of story. Second 7.62mm round is way more heavier and does alot more damage then 5.56 or 5.45 can do. They made a new weapon AK74 which required a new lighter round. This is the whole story behind 5.45mm.
The 5.56x45mm and 5.45x39.5mm cartridges create a larger wound cavity than the 7.62x39mm, they also cause more internal organ damage. But sure, keep to your video game logic.
@ipicko and it almost can never clog, i was shooting one and it knocked off my uncles hat when a round ejected, and he wheres his hats so tight that it leavs a very recognizable imprint on his head
@ipicko Right! I hate how people say it sucks and blah blah blah. The AK is a design that cant be messed with or changed to "better" it because its already a very very good gun. It can go threw the pits of hell and back and still put a bullet in you head with no stress.
@Thebestever441 Your comment doesn't even make sense? I said that the AK is cheap myself, and it certainly does a much better job of killing someone than a .22 rifle.
@ipicko in my opinion i believe the AK isnt widely used because of its performance but more because of its cheap cost, reliablility, and the fact that most of these places armed with AK's were under Russian control not so long ago
Anyone who wants to talk about the AK platform being inaccurate let me tell you something. If it was so damned inaccurate then how come the Spetznaz GRU used them as sniper rifles? No, I'm not lying either. They would put a PBS-4 and a PSO-1 on an AK-74 and get head shots at 400-500m. But then the VSS replaced it for that role.
@AbyssalHunt3r At 300yrds the ak47 is a hit or miss its got like a what 4moa drop at 300rds and the bullet slows down dramaticly after 200 or so the ak74 is another story the maximum efective range of an ak74 is 750yrd and thats not saying your gonna accuratly hit something at that range at 500yrd if you hit a man anywhere with a 4x scope your lucky not 500yrd headshots its pshysically impossible for the rifle in perfect controlled setting to do that consistintly let alone in combat.
@GotAmmo21 Actually no, Go look it up I wasn't lying or kidding. Have you fired a 74? My brother owns two arsenal SGL-31's and with his optic I can easily make shots out to 300-400 yards. If i can make hits out that far I'm pretty sure special forces can shoot better than I can. Also I have seen an AKM make hits on a target out to 600 yrds as well. Granted he was using match grade ammo.
Lots of ignorant comments here. Instead of talking about crap you aren't schooled on, get off the Xbox or PS3 and go shoot. Then you will see that the AK is indeed accurate enough for combat.
@iraqgunz37 I nor any professional marksmen would ever use an ak variant or izmash ak for target shooting at long or short range. the gun is fine its just the sights are horrible for longrange and can't put targets in a good grouping anywhere near the target.
@sethboy66 . What the f*ck is a professional marksman? The AK47 was designed a as an intermediate battlefield rifle that could be used by educated and uneducated alike. It was designed to be accurate for close distances- 200-300 meters max. It does that. It was also designed to operate with minimal care. Which it also does. If you can't shoot it, that's because you haven't been properly trained. If you think it can't shoot you need to talk with some other professionals like Larry Vickers.
@iraqgunz37 combat has changed quite a bit it is no longer a firepower or ammunition game it is a marksman game you have to have a well adjusted and well kept rifle to get those shots on target and with how big battlefields are an ak won't work so well. that is why the us army doesn't use it.
@sethboy66 . Thanks for the tip. BTDT have a t-shirt. I served almost 9 years and spent 4 years of my life in the Middle East. Go back to your PS3 and airsoft.
@iraqgunz37 wow you were in the army thats amazing. your just an ignorant bitch that got dishonorably discharged from the army go back to your tough guy act.
@sethboy66. That goes to show how much you know. I'm not going to be a little punk like you and resort to name calling. Like I said, go back to your Xbox or whatever and kill some more bad guys.
Lots of ignorant comments here. Instead of talking about crap you aren't schooled on, get of the Xbox or PS3 and go shoot. Then you will see that the AK is indeed accurate enough for combat.
This comment is "pure shit." The AK series of rifles fulfill the role they were designed for well. Don't take the Century Arms or the abused pieces of shit found in a hole in Somalia, and say that they are representative of every AK rifle produced. A "knowledgeable rifleman" would know this. How much experience do you have running quality AK's?
Please, elaborate in the ways that they "suck." I own Russian, German, Austrian, Belgian, and US made firearms. Anyone who owns quality examples of each won't make such a baseless claim saying that ANY of them suck.
@opmike343 A certain few like Steyr Aug is a good gun, so is the MP5 and the FN FAL. But overall i would take a Russian Kalashnikov variant over them and anything the EU and NATO will be throwing out in the future. War is Survival, Survival is Endurance, Endurance is a tough Gun. AK-47.
similar barrel harmonics can been observed from bolt action rifles with light contour barrels. the shorter a barrel is, the higher frequency it will vibrate at thus resulting is less movement at the muzzle, adding to that the thicker a barrel is the less the vibrations will effect is level of flex. the barrel of a standard AK shows this level of flex because it is a light weight, light contour barrel.
to the comments about the flex. all barrels flex when a round travels down and out the barrel, this is called harmonics. most tend to attribute the AK's "inaccuracy" to this flex, however if you watch what is really going on the most flex, or deviation from point of aim, occurs when the bullet exists the barrel and the remaining gases are released...this would have no effect on the bullets trajectory as it is already in flight at this time.
@freeagent3117 lolcore. The M4 and M16 were not made for long range. Otherwise the US would have never replaced the rifles for assault rifles - the assault rifles were made because the rifles were too powerful for the average 300m range.
I assumed 24 fps, because playing it at 5000 fps per second would defeat the purpose. And I posted it on a sub-consequent comment. Not my fault if you didn't see it.
Playing it at high fps would ditch all the detailed operation the camera had recorded anyway, so I always assume 24 fps playback to ensure more efficient video compression.
What I meant is that you are mistaken on using Frames Per Second insted of frames.
I know that playing at 5k or 13k FPS "would defeat the purpose", I was just pointing out an example, that is why you should have included the framerate at playback and you must not "assume" anything.
Moreover 24 FPS is a framerate used mainly in Cinemas, the common standard is 25 (PAL) or 29.97 FPS (NTSC) so your "assuming" is also incorrect.
_all_ barrels flex when fired. Bull barrels less of course, but still. Even .22 barrels flex. Some more than others. One of the main reason why sights have to be readjusted for different kinds of ammo, the bullet leaves the barrel at different phase of the sinewave motion.
werre2 1 month ago
Chinese aks are good...that one was even a milled receiver....bet it had the double hook fcg too.
elox02 1 month ago
it's a fucking chines AK
ThePolbanki 1 month ago
need to put a compensator on it
HostinUrParty 2 months ago
I'll stick with the FAL lol
Kapov 2 months ago
I'd trust either and own civi versions of both had no problems with either. My dust cover on the ak throws brass in the same place 1:00 position my AR throws it at 5:00 over shoulder. I prefer my AR due to better options and ergos but mainly because it's our standard rifle parts are everywhere if the ak was standard I'd like that better
elox02 2 months ago
argue with this guy HunterKiller308 he thinks the ar-15 is the worlds best assault rifle every created by man and thinks anything besides the ar-15 is shit
MrDip02 2 months ago
Wobble WObble
a55kika18 3 months ago
I don't know, I've fired several rounds with an AR and several with an AK, and I did MUCH better with the AR.
JarrettRandall 3 months ago
это китайский ак
zerZRrr 3 months ago
Its the cleaning rod under the barrel thats flexing a lot, giving the illusion of the barrel flexing more then it is.
TWoLF1224 3 months ago 22
@TWoLF1224 I'm with you on this one
N1ghts1te 3 months ago
It reminds me of bouncing titties, which I also love.
joshuastark86 4 months ago
This gives me a hard on.
TheMoscowLove 4 months ago
Is this from the documentary where their "Expert" couldnt hit a body target at 200 yards with the ak? I can hit one 9/10 times with my romanian knock off at 200 idk what he was smoking
steelcurtain656 5 months ago
AR barrel flex is minimum because the barrel thickness compared to the power generated by the bullet& the AR's tight tolerances interconnecting to re-inforce the rigidity of the weapon make it extremely accurate because of its stability. Do you think the AR would have been used so long if there wasn't anything going for it? The AK47's great reliability doesn't come without a price, ie accuracy, weight&efficient ergonomics. U won't find a perfect weapon, u gotta find what meets ur needs best.
oeyesea 5 months ago
cool
norinkara59 5 months ago
lol its an AKM ; D
Homer2591 5 months ago
There are too many bulky and heavy weight moving parts in this rifle. That is why whole gun is shaking and flexing while firing.
bluffer8 5 months ago
@bluffer8 that and it's stamped metals.
adobo777 5 months ago
@adobo777 This one isn't stamped though.
esh325 5 months ago
i think part of the reason this particular ak jerks so much is because its recoil spring has almost no tension. Its hardly able to slow down the bolt at all before it hits the back of the gun. Ive personally done slowmo shots on my ak and my spring works so well that it almost stops the bolt from hitting the back alltogether, reducing that violent kick.
CanadAssassiN 5 months ago
I think I just jizzed in my pants.
LegionnaireEtrangere 6 months ago
How did I get from dissecting fish to this? O_O
KenjiMancini 6 months ago
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This is the AN 94 operating mechanism
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imalchanaka 6 months ago
The AK-47 is inaccurate compared to an M-16. if you fire 1 M-16 round you can kill me but if I fire 3 Ak rounds I have the same probabilities on killing the M16 guy.... Some people say Ohh the M4 is better then what is the AK-74, AK-103 and the new AN-94.
zerocker45 6 months ago
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@zerocker45 If the AK wasn't a good gun, it wouldn't be so widely used with so many replicas and variants - it's cheap, sturdy and does its job well. Not bad for a gun designed over 64 years ago.
connormcwood2 6 months ago
@zerocker45 would you rather pay 15000$ for an m-16 that is not even close to the stopping power durability reliability of a 700$ ak-47? the only advantage m-16 has is the accuracy recoil its attachment availability
MrDip02 2 months ago
@MrDip02 M16's do not cost near $15,000 to make or buy (except for the select fire rifles on the civilian market; but only because they are few and can charge that much). The average cost is actually a little over $1000.
spetznaz1337 2 months ago
@spetznaz1337 yes
MrDip02 2 months ago
the only people who think ak's are inaccurate are those who have never fired them
fjkhoury01 6 months ago 9
M4A1
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@DaVo6565 SUCKS
pefha 6 months ago
@pefha nope :D
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@DaVo6565 Yes it does. Jams like your dick. Have you ever watched maybe only a shooting range video about it when the guy turns it on fully automatic it jams after a little burst..
pefha 6 months ago
@pefha are kidding me ? it doesnt jam more than an ak 47 that for sure
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@DaVo6565 It does you stupid fuck even and ex marine knows that. And i have spoke with one.
pefha 6 months ago
@pefha well den d ex marine was as stupid as u lol ...... and im 13 so i dont even have to know a lot about Guns
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@pefha they both have their strengths and weaknesses but the m4 is way more versitile dude,.,,,i dont thinks that ak 47 is bad ak 47 is a legend but i think that m4a1 is still better
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@DaVo6565 Well m4 is very accurate and nice ergonomic design, but if i would go to desert i would choose a fucking ak-47 because it's FAR more reliable.
pefha 6 months ago
@pefha yeah i accept that ak47 is more reliable but m4 is more accurate...ok ok peace man haha :D
DaVo6565 6 months ago
@DaVo6565 yep no more fighting :D
pefha 6 months ago
@pefha Haha:D
DaVo6565 6 months ago
ha i was like this is very slow slow motion but i had it on pause
jeffhardy8249 6 months ago
the whole gun shakes crazy
Singh778 6 months ago
All barrels flex to some degree when fired! I saw this segment on Discovery and the part where they show the AR barrel, they don't show the end of the AR barrel! If they did you would see it flex too!
troopcom 6 months ago 21
@troopcom The AR barrel doesn't flex. It's made of kryptonite so it's perfect.
sk8tafrnk 3 months ago
@sk8tafrnk every gun barrel flexes dumbass infact the barrel from the ar-15 flexes as much as that of an ak-47 actually even more /watch?v=PEBMlfhlxYg
MrDip02 2 months ago
@MrDip02 No it doesn't. AR barrels have a kryptonite alloy that keeps them from bending at all.
sk8tafrnk 2 months ago
@sk8tafrnk you're a dumbshit
MrDip02 2 months ago
@sk8tafrnk watch the damn video ALL BARRELS FLEX /watch?v=PEBMlfhlxYg
MrDip02 2 months ago
@MrDip02 Kryptonite.
sk8tafrnk 2 months ago
@sk8tafrnk retard.. and it's not made of kryptonite dumbass it's made of steel -_-
MrDip02 2 months ago
@MrDip02 You're right. Steel and kryptonite alloy.
sk8tafrnk 2 months ago
@sk8tafrnk fine ..-_-
MrDip02 2 months ago
fucking chinese fake ak
NestakaSwan 7 months ago
man that barrel vibrations is nuts
nixymagoo 7 months ago
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA. (Were all DEAD)
Aaron97oD 7 months ago
look on the barrels movement...shitty accuracy
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
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tartredarrow 7 months ago
You don't snipe on full auto idiot. And all barrels flex. Check out the barret 50cal. That thing flexes like a mother fucker (and rightly so)
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow did i say u can snipe on full auto?
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@tartredarrow Btw: FKIN CoD kiddy!
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@ZOCKER1001
I don't play CoD, it's a terrible game. I am familiar however with physics. Traditional gun geometry dictates that your barrel will typically flex upward.
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow and u called every single barret rifle 'barret cal .50' just like mw2 calls the M82A1
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@ZOCKER1001
/watch?v=PEBMlfhlxYg
M16/AR15 flexing just as much.
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow
/watch?v=F6-c--kIZlI
M82 barrel doesn't
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@ZOCKER1001
/watch?v=AZL7MN7ERRQ
Now fuck off.
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow haha lol just forgot 2 insult u....u friken retard...sayin barrets barrel flexes as much as the ak47s one and then u send a video of an accuracy international as50 for showing me that a barrets barrel is just moving that much...
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@ZOCKER1001 Oh excuse me for mixing up one 50BMG for another. /sarcasm.
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow lol better without sarcasm cause u just fucked up yourself
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
@ZOCKER1001
Oh no!! My life is over!
tartredarrow 7 months ago
@tartredarrow Oh yes!
ZOCKER1001 7 months ago
Your .22 will bounce off the enemy
Tantojutsuninpo 8 months ago
@Tantojutsuninpo im fucking sick of retards saying shit like that. You come over to my house and ill fucking shoot you with my .22 and we will see how you are feeling.
2004PontiacGTO 7 months ago
Китайская пародия АК-47. Нам на ДПЮ (Допризовная Подготовка Юношей) рассказывали о таких. Говорят, что из-за неправильно подобраного сплава ствола, такого автомата хватает на не больше чем 1000 выстрелов. Потом он просто "плюёться", после чего пуля падает метров через 20-30.
TwoWomansInOneMan 8 months ago
the ak-47 is not wobley it just needs a man to hold it not a pussy thumbs up is you agree
hamzah336 8 months ago
the ak-47 is not wobley it just needs a man to hold it not a pussy
hamzah336 8 months ago
The AK-47 is a reliable, sturdy, and inexpensive firearm and while those are commendable traits in an assualt rifle it is not, nor has it ever been, a high-quality weapon.
Snipe4261 8 months ago
Man , the whole thing is shaking from the sheer power !@@
NexisFilms 8 months ago 2
One of the several shortcommings of gas piston systems. All those recoiling parts around your barrel makes it inherently inaccurate.
SKUSMC 8 months ago
AK's are shit. This is the proof. They're ugly and inaccurate.
Look at that piece fo shit wobbling around like Stalin's vodka cock in a peasant whore.
imallpissedoff 8 months ago
@imallpissedoff If you miss, it was probably the shooter, not the rifle.
anything up to 300 yards is fine. If you want to outfit an AK as a precision rifle (400+ yards), then other platforms are better.
If your goal is a tactical carbine, there's nothing any other rifle can do that an AK can't.
MaxAC40 8 months ago
@imallpissedoff have you fired one? inaccurate compared to what? Why are you only looking at the downsides? Why can that "Piece of shit" operate under the most extreme of environments where many modern guns would jam?
Umimugo 7 months ago
lol how it tremble all around, but anyway, if you need to quickly arm 200 millions of Chinese soldiers there is no better gun
ww2footage 8 months ago 28
@ww2footage China no longer uses the AK. They now use some piece of shit called the QZB-95
Viktoriuslee 4 months ago
So that's what we're up against...
Kulgera4 9 months ago
If the AK wasn't a good gun, it wouldn't be so widely used with so many replicas and variants - it's cheap, sturdy and does its job well. Not bad for a gun designed over 64 years ago.
ipicko 10 months ago 46
@ipicko There are many much better assault rifles that out class and out perform it in many criterias. The only reason why its so widely used is not due to its quality, but due to its numbers and access. Its so cheap because its a stamped gun, and there are so many you can buy large quantities of them for virtually nothing. Its a mediocre weapon. As for reproductions, those are made based on popularity value and somewhat of a cult following. Much of its popularity is based on films.
MrNosfaratu 10 months ago
@MrNosfaratu Also AK can use in almost any harsh environment like buried dust, sand, mud, and put under water. AK users do not always have to clean them, good example is the Viet Cong, most of them rarely cleaned their AK and still shoot fine. I remember back in my country, in the boot camp once my commander buried an AKM under mud then wait for it to dry, the gun worked perfectly fine with emptying the whole mag.
hck112 10 months ago
@MrNosfaratu Name one. I think you're missing the point of the AK-47: Cost effectiveness. There were NO other guns that were as cost effective of the same period, except perhaps the Stg.44 (upon which the AK is based) but Germany had just lost WW2 at that point, so not many were made. The design has stood the test of time, and has evolved into designs like the AN-94 which are comparable to modern guns in terms of performance.
ipicko 9 months ago
@ipicko The FN FAL, more or less during the same time period. Cheap and easy to make, much more powerful cartridge, much more accurate, much better product quality. It is also robust and fairs well under harsh weather and terrain. It is a much better firearm than the AK in most respects. Sure its hard to brake, but what gun isn't? It is a mediocre weapon. Not only that, it was pretty much outdated by much better guns before and after its time. Russians have never truly made a gun themselves.
MrNosfaratu 9 months ago
@MrNosfaratu I absolutely love how say "Russians have never truly made a gun themselves." Especialy when the G41 and G43 rifles of WW2 were based off of the SVT 40 and how the mosin nagant was the only bolt action of WW2 that wasn't a mauser clone. also the FAL is a battle rifle, not an assault rifle go compare it to an SVT-40 or an SVD then you won't get in terms of accuracy, power or reliability. Go shoot an AK on automatic and mildly controllable. Try that with an FAL.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r The FAL has other variants and models to suit what ever situation you are going to be in. The FAL also has variants that chamber the .308 or 5.56x45 NATO. If I really wanted to then I could easily shoot it in controllable bursts. Where did you get the idea that the rifles you mentioned were based of off the SVT? From Wikipedia? The germans have been in search for a semi auto rifle since they made the successful Gewehr 98. The SVT came on year before, does not mean it was original.
MrNosfaratu 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r Besides, the Mosin-Nagant isn't fully Russian. The gun designer Nagant who truly designed the rifle was Belgian. As for the Semi auto rifles, there was rifle made by some Mexican gun designer who patented his design in the late 1800's. If you want you can say that was one of the few first Semi auto rifles in existence. Most and every other gun the Russians claim to be theirs is based off of other guns. The Tokarev TT-33 is basically a colt, the Makarov is basically the Walther PP.
MrNosfaratu 9 months ago
@MrNosfarat Ok where did the mexican thing come from? Also go search the Mosin-Nagant on wikipedia, then read the part titled "Nagant's Legal Dispute." And yes, you are correct about the makarov, but the TT pistol used Browning's short recoil dropping-barrel system from the M1911, thats it. If every gun that had one principle from another then every revolver is a clone of the revolver that Samuel Colt originally designed way back when.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
Look, don't get me wrong I love all guns. I have a SKS and adore it. I do have to say though, even if it just used the short recoil spring system, the over all design mimics the Colt. Most revolvers are clones of each other anyway. Imagine this, the revolver is a simple design. Even sometimes dubbed 'caveman simple'. How much more can you innovate into them? The Mexican thing is an actual rifle, I just can't remember the name since its something unusual. Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
MrNosfaratu 9 months ago
@MrNosfaratu I know wikipedia isn't a reliable source it just sum'd up the info I have heard numerous time before. The TT-33 doesn't even look like the colt. It looks like an FN pistol that was made in 1903. Keep in mide that the internal workings are very different from the FN pistol.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
I can understand that it does not look exactly like the Colt, however that pistol you are referring to is also a Browning designed gun. If similarity strikes you more with that pistol consider the designer the same. If we are thinking of the same pistol of course. Yet it is more over a Browning basis if you will. Generally If a pistol is made with the Browning short recoil system, it tends to usually be the same in function. The idea is that Russians have never TRULY made their own design.
MrNosfaratu 9 months ago
@MrNosfaratu The FAL is perhaps the only comparable gun, but it shares a common ancestry with the AK anyway, and it was produced in fewer numbers. I don't know what you mean about the Russians never truly made a gun themselves - the same implication could be said of any gun manufacturer, they're all based on similar principles that the Germans are probably responsible for.
ipicko 8 months ago
@ipicko This is true. Yet all the early Russian guns have been pretty much blatant knock offs of German design. In a few other cases the Russians have made not but minor changes to guns that have been designed by Norwegians for the most part. Russians now have a wide variety of what could be considered uniquely theirs. There a few more comparable guns to the AK. In terms, either far fetched or still bridging in similarity. Frankly take any stamped firearm made in that period and compare away.
MrNosfaratu 8 months ago
@ipicko the AK is more based upon the M1 garand than it is the STG the only thing even similar between the two are the gas systems.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r I'm sorry but I don't know how you've drawn that conclusion. Place an AK-74 and STG-44 side-by-side and you can see that the AK is quite clearly descended from the STG, whereas the Garand became the basis of the M14, it's just an entirely different weapon.
ipicko 8 months ago
@ipicko actually no go look it up I've had this exact argument many times and one I'm getting quite bired of it now
AbyssalHunt3r 8 months ago
@ipicko AK 47 firing accuracy is really bad, however the bullet damages are horrible. People who got hit M16 in a less fatality spot can be saved, but not 7.62×39 bullet. It rips off your flesh with a huge wound.
hck112 10 months ago
@hck112 Umm no not at all look at ballistics test of 5.56 vs 7.62x39 the 5.56 tumbles and yaws and leaves SO MUCH hydrostatic shock its not even funny the 7.62 almost sails straight through leaving a .30 cal hole while the 5.56 tumbles and fragments inside the body.
GotAmmo21 9 months ago
@GotAmmo21 The 7.62 also transfers most of its energy on target thereby producing more knockdown and stopping power than any 5.56.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r
The 5.56x45mm causes more damage to the flesh
There is no such thing as stopping power. I've seen deer shot with the highest of magnum calibers and still run off. The real killer is diced flesh and organs.
AGeekWithAShotgun 9 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun well i'm sorry if your shooting anything less than a 30-30 your not very smart. If you can't drop a deer with that, your just a bad shot. Its not the gun nor the round. Back on topic. A 7.62 will probably knock you on your ass. Its going to kill you. A 5.56 will make you bleed and feel a lot of pain.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r
I've been shot in the shoulder with a .308 while hunting, I'm fine. You don't understand the power of the 5.56x45mm. My Grandfather-in-law served in Vietnam, and he was hit by friendly-fire from an M16. He was hit in the thigh and they found the round 2 inches from his heart. THAT is why it is so lethal, it tumbles around the body hitting major organs, while rifle cartridges just blow clean through.
By the, 7.62xwhat? 7.62 is a bullet diameter, not a caliber. smart one.
AGeekWithAShotgun 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r
And I never said I was hunting with 5.56x45mm, I'm just saying stopping power doesn't exist. It's a myth, and the myth is widely confirmed by gun enthusiast abroad (those with brains, at least).
Why do you think the Soviets switched over to the 5.45x39.5mm cartridge? Because they knew the M16 was a true killer, and they needed a round that could do as such.
AGeekWithAShotgun 9 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun actually no they switched over for the same reason the NATO did. They switched over cause you can carry more ammo for the same weight. More lead down range means more dead enemies.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun Again no, please leave your bias aside when talking about things which do not need to include "emotions" or "my dad is bigger then yours". Soviets/Russians changed to 5.45x39mm from 7.62x39mm because of simple logic. This logic is a soldier can carry more ammo. End of story. Second 7.62mm round is way more heavier and does alot more damage then 5.56 or 5.45 can do. They made a new weapon AK74 which required a new lighter round. This is the whole story behind 5.45mm.
Ouija121085 9 months ago
@Ouija121085
The 5.56x45mm and 5.45x39.5mm cartridges create a larger wound cavity than the 7.62x39mm, they also cause more internal organ damage. But sure, keep to your video game logic.
AGeekWithAShotgun 9 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun have you seen the7.62x39 hp round its nasty with more yawing and force than the 5.45x39 fmj or jhp
clydethekiller 8 months ago
@clydethekiller
Absolute crockshit
AGeekWithAShotgun 8 months ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun hahahaha look at my page man i know what im talkin about.
clydethekiller 8 months ago
@ipicko and it almost can never clog, i was shooting one and it knocked off my uncles hat when a round ejected, and he wheres his hats so tight that it leavs a very recognizable imprint on his head
XxBrMagicxX 9 months ago
@ipicko Right! I hate how people say it sucks and blah blah blah. The AK is a design that cant be messed with or changed to "better" it because its already a very very good gun. It can go threw the pits of hell and back and still put a bullet in you head with no stress.
georgy3030 9 months ago
@ipicko what AK do you mean? AK that is made in Russia, or the AK which was made in the basement of a nearby building?
Stalevik 8 months ago
@Stalevik What are you talking about?
ipicko 8 months ago
@ipicko Wrong. It's used everywhere because it's cheap. Like a pencil. And what is it's job? Kill? a .22 can kill.
Thebestever441 8 months ago
@Thebestever441 Your comment doesn't even make sense? I said that the AK is cheap myself, and it certainly does a much better job of killing someone than a .22 rifle.
ipicko 8 months ago
@ipicko I'd rather have a .22 rifle than an Ak-47. At least the .22 will HIT the enemy. You don't need a hug bullet to kill someone.
Thebestever441 8 months ago
@ipicko It's a cheap reliable machine gun, not a very good rifle.
mesa401 7 months ago
@ipicko in my opinion i believe the AK isnt widely used because of its performance but more because of its cheap cost, reliablility, and the fact that most of these places armed with AK's were under Russian control not so long ago
XSVPUNKk 6 months ago
Anyone who wants to talk about the AK platform being inaccurate let me tell you something. If it was so damned inaccurate then how come the Spetznaz GRU used them as sniper rifles? No, I'm not lying either. They would put a PBS-4 and a PSO-1 on an AK-74 and get head shots at 400-500m. But then the VSS replaced it for that role.
AbyssalHunt3r 10 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r At 300yrds the ak47 is a hit or miss its got like a what 4moa drop at 300rds and the bullet slows down dramaticly after 200 or so the ak74 is another story the maximum efective range of an ak74 is 750yrd and thats not saying your gonna accuratly hit something at that range at 500yrd if you hit a man anywhere with a 4x scope your lucky not 500yrd headshots its pshysically impossible for the rifle in perfect controlled setting to do that consistintly let alone in combat.
GotAmmo21 9 months ago
@GotAmmo21 Actually no, Go look it up I wasn't lying or kidding. Have you fired a 74? My brother owns two arsenal SGL-31's and with his optic I can easily make shots out to 300-400 yards. If i can make hits out that far I'm pretty sure special forces can shoot better than I can. Also I have seen an AKM make hits on a target out to 600 yrds as well. Granted he was using match grade ammo.
AbyssalHunt3r 9 months ago
@AbyssalHunt3r Yes i've fired many 74's as well as a krinkov 74 and I own a 74 and using surplus russian theyre lucky to hit at 350yrds.
GotAmmo21 9 months ago
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M1A5Xmetal 10 months ago
@M1A5Xmetal
No, the weapon in this video is an AK-47 type rifle.
AGeekWithAShotgun 10 months ago
Look at all that motion, from the loose tolerances, long-stroke piston, and heavy bolt carrier. The AK is reliable, but a marksman's rifle it ain't.
MWSin1 10 months ago
Lots of ignorant comments here. Instead of talking about crap you aren't schooled on, get off the Xbox or PS3 and go shoot. Then you will see that the AK is indeed accurate enough for combat.
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
@iraqgunz37
You're fighting a losing battle, IG. This isn't M4C ;-)
opmike343 10 months ago
@opmike343 . Surely you must have me confused with someone else?
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
@iraqgunz37 I nor any professional marksmen would ever use an ak variant or izmash ak for target shooting at long or short range. the gun is fine its just the sights are horrible for longrange and can't put targets in a good grouping anywhere near the target.
sethboy66 10 months ago
@sethboy66 . What the f*ck is a professional marksman? The AK47 was designed a as an intermediate battlefield rifle that could be used by educated and uneducated alike. It was designed to be accurate for close distances- 200-300 meters max. It does that. It was also designed to operate with minimal care. Which it also does. If you can't shoot it, that's because you haven't been properly trained. If you think it can't shoot you need to talk with some other professionals like Larry Vickers.
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
@iraqgunz37 combat has changed quite a bit it is no longer a firepower or ammunition game it is a marksman game you have to have a well adjusted and well kept rifle to get those shots on target and with how big battlefields are an ak won't work so well. that is why the us army doesn't use it.
sethboy66 10 months ago
@sethboy66 . Thanks for the tip. BTDT have a t-shirt. I served almost 9 years and spent 4 years of my life in the Middle East. Go back to your PS3 and airsoft.
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
@iraqgunz37 wow you were in the army thats amazing. your just an ignorant bitch that got dishonorably discharged from the army go back to your tough guy act.
sethboy66 10 months ago
@sethboy66. That goes to show how much you know. I'm not going to be a little punk like you and resort to name calling. Like I said, go back to your Xbox or whatever and kill some more bad guys.
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
Lots of ignorant comments here. Instead of talking about crap you aren't schooled on, get of the Xbox or PS3 and go shoot. Then you will see that the AK is indeed accurate enough for combat.
iraqgunz37 10 months ago
watch Golgo13
neooffs 10 months ago
For uneducated, untrained masses - the ak47 is supreme for the spray and pray.
As far as a knowledgeable rifleman... it's pure shit.
PolecatQCon 10 months ago
@PolecatQCon
This comment is "pure shit." The AK series of rifles fulfill the role they were designed for well. Don't take the Century Arms or the abused pieces of shit found in a hole in Somalia, and say that they are representative of every AK rifle produced. A "knowledgeable rifleman" would know this. How much experience do you have running quality AK's?
opmike343 10 months ago
this is a ak47 variant not a real ak47
thesebflynn 11 months ago
that ak looks flimsy
ghilliedealer 11 months ago
@ghilliedealer It's built loosely so it doesn't fall apart and jam like most Nato guns.
SovetskyySoyuzah 10 months ago
@SovetskyySoyuzah
"Most" NATO guns don't "fall apart and jam." Stop attacking straw men.
opmike343 10 months ago
@opmike343 I've handled them before, they honestly suck compared to Russian weapons.
SovetskyySoyuzah 10 months ago
@SovetskyySoyuzah
Please, elaborate in the ways that they "suck." I own Russian, German, Austrian, Belgian, and US made firearms. Anyone who owns quality examples of each won't make such a baseless claim saying that ANY of them suck.
opmike343 10 months ago
@opmike343 A certain few like Steyr Aug is a good gun, so is the MP5 and the FN FAL. But overall i would take a Russian Kalashnikov variant over them and anything the EU and NATO will be throwing out in the future. War is Survival, Survival is Endurance, Endurance is a tough Gun. AK-47.
SovetskyySoyuzah 10 months ago
similar barrel harmonics can been observed from bolt action rifles with light contour barrels. the shorter a barrel is, the higher frequency it will vibrate at thus resulting is less movement at the muzzle, adding to that the thicker a barrel is the less the vibrations will effect is level of flex. the barrel of a standard AK shows this level of flex because it is a light weight, light contour barrel.
annihilationnegitive 11 months ago
to the comments about the flex. all barrels flex when a round travels down and out the barrel, this is called harmonics. most tend to attribute the AK's "inaccuracy" to this flex, however if you watch what is really going on the most flex, or deviation from point of aim, occurs when the bullet exists the barrel and the remaining gases are released...this would have no effect on the bullets trajectory as it is already in flight at this time.
annihilationnegitive 11 months ago
is the gun flexing? or is that the expelling gas you can see?
mockingbird83 11 months ago
ak47 fires 10 rounds/second. in the vid it takes 3 seconds for one round, or 0.33 rounds/second. do the math (10/0.33) - it was slowed down 30 times.
if it were slowed down 13,000 times it would take 20 minutes for a single round. that would be a very boring video :D
guguigugu 11 months ago
WTF ? look how the barrel bends
Debesukaleejs 1 year ago
Ak-47 is rubber gun.
DanielDryden 1 year ago
Does remind anyone of the game Black on xbox and ps2?? I think so.
grijam02 1 year ago
why the ak buttstock isn't shown while the m16 buttstock is showed in the ak vs m16 documentary.
grrisssa 1 year ago
This rifle isn't made for long range like the M4 or M16. Its made cheap and deadly.
freeagent3117 1 year ago
@freeagent3117 lolcore. The M4 and M16 were not made for long range. Otherwise the US would have never replaced the rifles for assault rifles - the assault rifles were made because the rifles were too powerful for the average 300m range.
bf2lover42 11 months ago
13,000 fps would need 9 minutes of video to display 1 second in real time
bf2lover42 1 year ago 14
@bf2lover42
lol if you say 13,000 fps you just a unit.
You mean 13,000 frames, and playd at a frame-rate of 30 fps they take 7 minutes and 13,2 seconds to run.
Obviously if you play 13k frames at 13k fps you need only 1 second to visualize them all.
Gian092 9 months ago
@Gian092 ಠ_ಠ
I assumed 24 fps, because playing it at 5000 fps per second would defeat the purpose. And I posted it on a sub-consequent comment. Not my fault if you didn't see it.
Playing it at high fps would ditch all the detailed operation the camera had recorded anyway, so I always assume 24 fps playback to ensure more efficient video compression.
bf2lover42 9 months ago
@bf2lover42 ︶▂︶"
What I meant is that you are mistaken on using Frames Per Second insted of frames.
I know that playing at 5k or 13k FPS "would defeat the purpose", I was just pointing out an example, that is why you should have included the framerate at playback and you must not "assume" anything.
Moreover 24 FPS is a framerate used mainly in Cinemas, the common standard is 25 (PAL) or 29.97 FPS (NTSC) so your "assuming" is also incorrect.
Gian092 9 months ago
@Gian092 Nope. I never use PAL or NTSC formatting, and many people don't. My experience says it conflicts a bit with YouTube's compression.
bf2lover42 9 months ago
@bf2lover42
*instead
Gian092 9 months ago