The Sorrow and the Pity—Theatrical trailer

[CrowleysGhost]

kfarm2001's comment that the Nazi party was 'extremely' popular is not true. It in fact had very limited popularity. Most people didn't even know it existed.

[Scotseasy]

That scurrilous jibe about Israel is as grotesquely unfair as it is untrue. Since it came into being, Israel has been under attack, by those who have never been in the least interested in compromise and who want only its destruction. A brief look at the politics and the governments of the Arab countries which border it, and of those beyond that, such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia and non-Arab Iran, reveal one corrupt despotic regime after another, with Moslem fanaticism the alternative.

[aubreyfarmer]

I think most of you totally miss the point. Nazi success could only come about so rapidly with locals collaborating. It should come as no surprise that when the crap hits the fan, local law enforcement will do whatever they are told to protect their paychecks and that includes standing patriots against the wall and executing them.

[frankd1965]

I have the DVD of this film and the run time is almost 4 hours & 30 minutes.

[jospbrozz]

@frankd1965

lucky b :)

been trying to find a copy with good subtitles for years

[frankd1965]

@jospbrozz Borders & Barnes & Noble have it.

[jospbrozz]

@frankd1965

thanks mate

[mystro810]

ah.. good times.

[eddiedoomstadt]

Wonderful film! It's sad, but lots of people at that time had no faith in democracy, and Faschism presented itself as something new and exciting, and many people in Europe fell for it. I'm glad this film does a good job of combating the revisionism that went on after the war, after all, how can you learn from history if you aren't honest?

[AndrewMann552]

This is pretty much what the US is doing in Iraq and Israel in the West Bank, setting up Vichy-like regimes.

[Thornfox]

The US may want people on its side, but they're not exactly rounding up undesirables to send to concentration camps.

[AndrewMann552]

Oh really? The US currently runs secret prisons in Afghanistan and Iraq, Afghans are terrified of nighttime US raids where Afghan civilians are rounded up and taken away for questioning, some never returning. Maybe the US doesn't have concentration camps in its mainland, but it sure likes to fund governments who do on theirs.

[Thornfox]

Interrogation and instances of torture still aren't quite the same as rounding up whole communities to send to gas chambers.

[AndrewMann552]

No, but as I said at the end, we sure do like supporting regimes who have done and continue to carry out this kinds of actions and policies. Including Israel which in 2008 basically turned Gaza into one huge gas chamber.

[Thornfox]

The Warsaw ghetto is a much better metaphor for Gaza, if you're going to use Nazi analogies. Still not as bad, just a terrible situation.

[babalabordei]

@AndrewMann552

How do you call a Palestinian ceasefire?

Reloading

[AndrewMann552]

@babalabordei So Israel doesn't continue getting weapons from the US during a ceasefire? If you look at the record, Palestinians actually do honor ceasefires, Israel is usually the one who breaks them. For example, before the Gaza war, Israel broke the ceasefire on November 4, 2008.

[mg196]

@AndrewMann552 - That same line appears on the Aryan Nation website. Great, impartial research!

[GloriaD5767]

@AndrewMann552 Yeah, I'll never understand how we train and support bad guys, then when they turn on us, they become horrible threats. WTF!?

[invanz0]

@Thornfox really? do you know history? /watch?v=PgmbOh9zJLY

[Thornfox]

@invanz0 I know about the Japanese interment camps, but that was a different era, and far tamer next to what the Germans and the Japanese themselves were doing.

[invanz0]

@Thornfox how would you know? america was the one who wrote the history, and could of covered up deaths and mass killings. Its not hard. And for america to round up citizens for "gentler purposes" is just as wrong as what germany and other countrys did. Those people were proven guilty and put in camps. The punishment wasnt death, it was striping people of their libertys. The american government ruined countless lives doing that. How many people killed themselves because they lost everything?

[Thornfox]

@invanz0 Actually, it is relatively hard to cover up mass killings, as the Turks, Nazis and Serbs learned. And while the US wasn't justified in putting people in camps, I wouldn't put it on moral par with what Nazi Germany did - there's quite a difference between confinement and property confiscation versus systematic genocide.

[invanz0]

@Thornfox How can you make that statement? How many mass killings have been covered up? how many lies have been called out that resulted in wars like vietnam. The nazis believed in what they did, america believes in what were doing. Its fact that many innocent lifes have been ruined because of americas policy's. Morality doesnt fit in, when you believe you need to use evil to destroy evil. Exactly what dick chaney said, and exactly what hitler preached. You need to get out of denial. And fast.

[Thornfox]

@invanz0 Denial? Denying what? You haven't provided any evidence of anything.

[invanz0]

@Thornfox you should see a movie called "the corporation" /watch?v=M_0pbUUuN_U

Also The power of nightmares: /watch?v=EaLPFayD8FA

Also - Taxi to the dark Side: /watch?v=WX0MPcN08Zc

Also - No end in sight : /watch?v=vINM0CAysc8

Also - Fog Of War: /watch?v=VgA98V1Ubk8

Also - the most dangerous man in america: daniel ellsberg and P.P : /watch?v=gXlmQeSpqI4

[Thornfox]

@invanz0 I've seen Power of Nightmares and Fog of War. What's your point? I know the US isn't a shining beacon, you don't have to convince me.

[invanz0]

@Thornfox thats not what i was trying to do. All of those movies have something in common. The american people, citizens, sheeps. what ever you want to call it. People were mislead, lied to, and just plan ignorant. The people of germany were a lot like americans. They had an attack on their land from an enemy within and from afar, they claimed, making the enabling act giving hitler more power, and having preemptive wars with nations based on misleading the population on the cause.....

[invanz0]

@Thornfox ***continued*** Select few had power in germany, and the best thing hitler ever did was label his enemy and show "proof" they were enemys For example an american firm helped stage jewish acts of terror in Germany, members of the death squads worked for american bankers who made the cia. Made a set of guidelines more clear then the war on terrors. America lives ina fantasy world of good vs evil, america playing the good guys. I dont believe thats the case or in the past 100s has been

[invanz0]

@Thornfox And maybe next time we shouldnt fund germany so much, and much such a Frankenstein we cant control that manipulates japan and other nations into fighting us. So we funded our own demise, the same way we our now in the war of terror. /watch?v=EaLPFayD8FA

[kfarm2001]

The Nazi party was extremely popular in the United States in the late 1930s. Huge fascist rallies were held in venues that included Madison Square Garden.

[dudemantwo]

kfarm...mainly in lower class neighborhoods...areas that had lots of Krauts...

When Germany attacked Czechoslovakia...those rallies ended...

[verbusen]

@kfarm2001 They were popular with German-American immigrants not much of the general public in America.

[jospbrozz]

@kfarm2001

mostly by german-americans in so called "Amerikadeutscher Bund" ,an organization created and funded by nazi-regime in germany to promote a favorable view of Nazi Germany.

they were a bunch of clowns .Vichy France was far more sinister and did way far more evil.



[sukneh]

@kfarm2001 Clarification. The German American Bund was popular among a small segment of Americans of German descent. Part of this was the way this group was suppressed during WWI. Many of those who participated in the Bund went on to honorable service in the US Army during WWII. Also, when the Jewish gangsters attacked the Bund n NY, the cops, most of whom were good Irish Catholics, looked the other way - they didn't much like the Bund either. Keep things in perspective.

[Glennovicz]

A very important movie still relevant today because it poses a recurrent question: how do France and the French people react to a foreign invasion?

[londonseagull]

Excellent!