Pawan Sinha on how brains learn to see

[crudhousefull]

Wow...incredible research

[chuckwynn1026]

This video went viral on Tbilisi

[098anne]

Love this talk!

[amirtaaki]

great guy.

[roidroid]

If the autistic kids' vision was so effected - how were they able to still accurately predict the path of the ball, eh?

Watch it again.

16:03 - 16:32 is neurotypical child.

16:33 - 16:58 is autistic child

neither child misses any shots, NONE.

It looks to me that the more astounding result of this study is that autistic children are apparently fully capable of tracking and predicting movements - but they do it via their PERIPHERAL VISION. At least, that's what the results seem to show to me.

[redmapleleaf]

Maybe that's why they don't look at you in the face directly, at least for some.

[NorthDravid]

He's an Indian Hindu and he has given his child a Persian name of Old Greek origin.

Another interesting thing in this video :D

[dumbnetworks]

@NorthDravid Of course Darius anexed Punjab in 517 BC is an important name in indian history, The greek connection is irrelevant.

[WozulPonz]

@dumbnetworks

No, it is not an "important" name in Indian history, because there's absolutely no evidence left (numismatic or otherwise) in India/Pakistan of Persian control. The success & longevity of Achaemenid control over western India was tenuous at best.

Darius only mentions Gadara and Hidush in his Naghsh-e Rostam inscription (NWFP and Sindh in modern day Pak). Punjab proper (centred around Lahore-Amritsar) was never under any Persian control - even nominal.

[dumbnetworks]

@WozulPonz "because there's absolutely no evidence left (numismatic or otherwise) in India/Pakistan of Persian control" darius anexed punjab in 517 BC, there is your evidence, look it up. And again the greek origin is irrelevant here, every name has an "origin" somewhere are you greek or something?

[WozulPonz]

@dumbnetworks

Besides, the Greek connection is not irrelevant.

Darius is the Greek name for Darayavahu, which is how the actual name of the Persian emperor is pronounced as in Old Persian.

It is a direct cognate of Sanskrit "vasudhara" (vahu>vasu = good, daraya>dhara = to hold), which means "the holder/keeper of goodness". "Vasudhara" is a very typical Sanskrit name, and can even be found today in India.

[fuctanyway]

one of my favorite subjects in evolution

[BFDK]

Good talk, good information.

[theshredator]

Excellent!

[LessonIsNeverTry]

He starts talking about learning to see at 9:00

[2ndself]

Found that footage of pong particularly interesting. I know we would normally calculate the path of the ball as we play, but I might not have considered that our visual focus actually tracked our prediction.

I'd be interested to see what that looked like with an oponent, or with a more complex game.

[BFDK]

Yes, it would be very interesting to see the eye focus on a more complex game. A FPS maybe.

[roidroid]

@BFDK it might be hard to get autistic children interested in more complex games.

Frankly i'm amazed they were even able to be taught Pong.

[blularkspur]

Ive been wondering if Mcdonalds actually do any good in this world...

[ErichoTTA]

Very interesting and informative.

[LyeraNY]

what a nice guy!! :)

[wolfganggangwolfe]

Damn it, i cant understand what he says

[boqallaf]

some of the pictures were disturbing. I wish if he had not shown them.

[liquidminds]

you need to learn to embrace any truth, no matter how disturbing it might be.

If you find it disturbing, you just haven't thought about it enough to find answers that calm you down.

[zencor]

No that is not true!

It's friday and i don't need to watch some disturbing stuf about blindness! It's just to depressing, and life is short. And people will always be egocentric, thats why when people that gets children with a disease that can't be treated today, get's so involve right from that moment on... Time to eat some of that "moral"-cake...

[liquidminds]

so why do you you watch a ted-clip adressing "learing to see" then, when nearly all knowledge medicine got by now, was by comparing to those who can't do a certain thing?

was kinda obvious what you were to see... blame your choice of moment on yourself, not on the video.

[luckyarcher]

egocentric people get blind children? Get yourself treated my man!!

[zencor]

No, all people are egocentric. Learn how to read , before giving psychological suggestions...

[luckyarcher]

What does egocentric-ism and disease have to do with each other you freaking jackass?

[youngnewtonian]

Anybody like the new Youtube Look??

[roidroid]

@youngnewtonian they broke nested comments, i can't tell what comment are replies and what comments arn't.

AHHHHHH

[buzzin1975]

This video clearly shows how technologically primitive we truly are. Cataracts surgeries have been performed successfully for thousands of years. Only 20% of his patients are treatable, and of course, the focus is on them. What about the other 80%! That's what we should be focusing on. It's the 21st century and we can't even manufacture biological eyes, and our understanding of the brain-eye connection is piss-poor. What a joke.

[zeffii]

@buzzin1975 please leave the internet.

[WhichDoctor1]

@buzzin1975 To be honest I'm amazed that a bunch of illorganized monkeys designed by evolution to do little more than hunt gather and survive have got this far. Don't forget that reliable surgery has only been around for 100 years or so and we've only been able to even begin studying the brain properly for 15-20 years. Come on give humanity a brake.

[liquidminds]

you could also put it that way: humanity prooved very willing and able to extinct all concurring lifeforms that were uncomfortable to us.

When conquering the planet, we wiped quite a sum of species of this earth, so I am very confident, that we are going to continue that with diseases and illnesses.

"reliable" surgery is another thing.

today people die under the scalpel as well as in ancient egypt. 5000yrs ago.

[Mastikator]

The amount of species we have exterminated is quite insignificant.

[liquidminds]

since we are able to read and write maybe.. before that we hunted anything that had more than 100pounds and wasn't fast enough to get away...

eventhough we have a little bit of neanderthal-DNA, who do you think extinct those?

[Mastikator]

Yes but powerful species exterminate weak ones all the time.

[liquidminds]

stupid species, exterminate all the time... intellegent species know how to manage their environments ressources so they can survive.

[Mastikator]

Part of surviving could be to exterminate a species.

[liquidminds]

as well as it could be part of surviving, not to exterminate a species...

humans becoming vegan f.e. would exterminate cows, pits and chicken

[Plopkap]

@liquidminds lol you must be kidding

[2ndself]

We clearly don't though.

[pcuimac]

@Mastikator

You really need to read a book about evolution. Ever heard aboout coevolution like bees and flowers? bee don´t exterminate flowers. Please read before talking.

[Mastikator]

Or like humans and crops and cattle and house pets?

Either way, don't bother responding, that kind of attitude is not acceptable.

[pcuimac]

Wrong again! humans domesticated crops, cattle and "pets" and changed them by unnatural selection. That´s not coevolution. Read some of Dawkins books for a start.

[popitypop]

very true

[AzureDrag0n1]

Try reading them again. Cats and Dogs first evolved without any help from humans because they found it advantageous to live near humans where other animals would not. Only recently have humans controlled the development of cats and dogs.

[pcuimac]

Cats evolved because humans always threw this useless catfood out of their windows. Didn´t they?

[AzureDrag0n1]

Well that is a overly simplified way of putting it but that would have been part of it. Basically feeding off the scraps left behind by humans. I think there was a bit more too it as well.

If you take a look at the intestines of domestic cats they are longer than wild cats to deal with harder to digest human food. As a lot of the stuff humans eat is not part of a cats diet.

[Plopkap]

@liquidminds Not who but what. It's quite probable that some disease killed the Neanderthals. Probably spread by Homo Sapiens. Not on purpose though heh.

[liquidminds]

its possible, but i don't believe in it.

a lot of animals extinct quite around the time the first humans inhabited their teretory.

so probability dictates, that there is at least a connection.

[MilitantPeaceist]

How freekin inspiring was that

[yourtube20061]

brilliant !!

[Mastikator]

Thank you McDonalds for financing this.

[buzzin1975]

That's like saying 'Thank you Hitler for financing art schools'.

[Mastikator]

Woot Godwin's law.

[buzzin1975]

Fuck Godwin. So, whose law is that one?

[Mastikator]

@buzzin1975 The same law that applies when two people meet under a mistletoe . And you know what that means.

[beerbeerbear742]

pretty good, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good,

[321lawc]

Go watch Jeff Hawkins, he has basically the same ideas about sensory integration.

[greycloud24]

TED finds some amazing people who do wonderful things for the world. i always am happy to find new TED videos on my subscription list.

[tarohoa]

second half of video was amazing, a significant discovery and great research on his team's behalf.

[ifritto]

Very interesting, and I feel like I learned a lot. Good watch :D

[aminizle]

Subhanallah! amazing work !

[mazdaplz]

did he drive out the demons though?

[roidroid]

@mazdaplz nah it looks like she had eye surgery in the end. Well, unless the priest shoved hot pokers into her eyes! yikes

[LudicrousTachyon]

If you're seeing for the first time, a section of a square, a section of a circle, and their intersection are no more prominent than the others. After several months, you know what a circle and a square are, and their recognition will be more likely than three sections.

[spongebathe]

Wow, cool stuff. So motion is important in understanding what we see. Or at least seeing is dependent on frame of reference.

[boorens18]

imagine one day you walk into a bar and start chatting.  Some guy asks what you do. You give an answer, his reply is that hes basically saving children.....for a living. Everyday. By healing the blind....

[quathar]

@boorens18 ... and then you punch him in the face.

[boorens18]

@quathar lol and then the entire bar turns on you for sucker punching a good samaritan. LOL that should be a proverb.

[quathar]

Hey, he had it coming, flaunting his goodness like that.

Btw, his ideas aren't new, he is basically proving Jeff Hawkins theories right. His HTM architecture demo already did "vision machine learning" a couple of years back. For anyone interested in artificial intelligence, check out his stuff. And I don't mean his palm pilots.

[sin331]

that control kid must have serious ADHD.

[Valstein0]

I love TED. The people who speak at TED are the heroes of our world.

[chauloko]

This is great. Good job!

[LiquidFriction]

this guys ear lobes are friggen HUGE

[srav953]

LMAO

[victormusicify]

@LiquidFriction In East Asian country, ear lobes like his signifies wisdom and long life. Because Buddha are depicted of having similar ear lobes.

[LiquidFriction]

@victormusicify So he's a wizard, got ya

[prov223]

Thanks

[321lawc]

Shit, I love science.

[modmastermind111]

Strange since you can't add.

[fuunguus]

Science!!! Beats prayer in every aspect. Hehe, saw your channel, some angry ignorant comments you've gotten there. ;P

[321lawc]

Oh yeah, it's hilarious; they're the people that would have been burning witches back a couple hundred years ago.

[prabhatpalpal]

shit, your comment made my day!!....but seriously!

[roidroid]

@321lawc Science is not sure if it loves you, as it is a subjective term, plus there is no control group to test against. Do you have an identical twin?

Science loves twins :D