I am a telephone repair man for bell canada, and just got a 1950's Northern Electric 500 phone (black) from a elderly customer who now wanted caller ID.. worked fine when i was there, now I took it home, hardwired it into the phone jack and nothing.. seems like it cant call out or receive .. does have dial tone though
Well sir,..I have the cousin of your phone; A Northern Electric (forgot their mod #-- it's in storage). It looks the same. Heavyweight thing. Bell Canada..1946. Can dial out, & take calls, but won't ring. It could last 100 more years, if Bell had not put in tone dialing... Not useful for calling government services, or businesses..."Press 1 for service in English...press 2 for service in French" etc......I like it. I used to live in a farming area. Had a party line, used it then.
Hey Patriot, if you remember me, I was one with a 500. I had ordered it cloth cords to retro fit on it, and the "Rotatone" so I can use it on automated menus.
Well now I have ordered a 302 and can't wait for it to arrive..
@hakemon Excellent! Did you have any issues installing the Rotatone in the 500? I've not put any more Rotatones in any of my other phones since my house is still being served by a traditional POTS landline. Is a Rotatone going in the 302 as well, and is it a late thermoplastic one or an early heavyweight metal one? :)
@Patriot1776 I had a little issue installing it in my 500, as one of the spade connectors didn't work on it causing intermittent use, so I clamped on a new spade connector, and it works fine, minus a "small buzz" after dialing that goes away in 2 seconds. I will be installing the rotatone in the 302, out of the one in my 500 since I only have 1 room here so no need for more than one on the line. Also, it's a metal version..
hello, cool videos on old phones..I have an old western electric 302, what wires do i jump to get it to ring in,,it works all the way around but the ringing in..thanks
I am so happy to see someone as passionate about vintage phones as I am. Question Patriot: What do you think about reproductions--not the ones that are being done today but the ones from a few decades ago. For example, in the 70's candlestick phones were reproduced and I just purchased a french rotary dial from 1975-they originated much earlier. The model I just purchased is an "AMERICAN TELECOMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION". DELCO-TEL. MODEL #D-B1330B. Let me know your thoughts.
I don't have any problem with them. I like them quite a bit as well. I have a couple of these older repro-candlesticks. I think I do need to do a couple videos on them. One of them is a Deco-Tel just like yours, but the other one is a more faithful one that is all metal except for the mouthpiece and the hung receiver and I believe has a Automatic Electric-style dial on it.
Hello again! I had another question about my 302 phone. When I did a few ringing tests on it, I noticed something strange. I called my house with the phone opened up so I could see the ringer, and the sound was just BEAUTIFUL, but when I put the casing back on and called it again, the ring was completely different and kind of ugly sounding. What do you think may cause that?
Check to make sure first, when you close the casing back up, that nothing is binding on the clapper between the ringer bells. I doubt that's happening however, as that would also cause the ringer to not even ring at all. If the ringing just sounds muffled when the phone is closed up, then there's nothing you can really do. Remember the age these things were designed in and the limited technical capability.
VERY NICE PHONE! I have one too, but it was made in 1939. Also, I was wondering if you could help me with something. Occasionally when I go to dial a number, the dial will make this very strange sound when returning to its normal position; instead of lightly clicking like your phone's dial, it is this very loud clanking. The phone still makes calls just fine, but do you know what the problem might be?
First off, are you hearing any grinding noises to go along with it, like gears grinding or anything? And does the dial appear to be turning more slowly when that happens than it does when it doesn't happen? If neither of these are true, it shouldn't be anything to worry about, and I would instead just open the phone up and lube the dial with SEWING MACHINE oil.
Great video.!!...what number did you dial to make the phone ring by itself...that was very clever...I have one of these 302's that won't ring...this would be a good way to test it after I play with the wiring, looking at a wiring schematic...Looking forward to your reply...You should do more antique telephone videos..
chad, the only real physical thing I had to do it to hook it up to today's modular jacks was was attach a biscuit block jack onto the end of the base cord so I could then plug modern line cords into it to run to a modern wall jack.
I didn't have to really do anything to get it to work on modern lines, as today's POTS/voice analog phone service is not any different now electrically then it was in the 1920's when rotary/pulse dial service was introduced. All that's changed is better equipment. I mainly did some VERY slight rewiring to wire it for bridged ringing instead of party-line ringing.
is this the voice actor for hank hill?
TheBlitz1 5 months ago
I am a telephone repair man for bell canada, and just got a 1950's Northern Electric 500 phone (black) from a elderly customer who now wanted caller ID.. worked fine when i was there, now I took it home, hardwired it into the phone jack and nothing.. seems like it cant call out or receive .. does have dial tone though
robbimac18 8 months ago
I have one of those from 1938
BritishAutophone 1 year ago
Good Day,
Well sir,..I have the cousin of your phone; A Northern Electric (forgot their mod #-- it's in storage). It looks the same. Heavyweight thing. Bell Canada..1946. Can dial out, & take calls, but won't ring. It could last 100 more years, if Bell had not put in tone dialing... Not useful for calling government services, or businesses..."Press 1 for service in English...press 2 for service in French" etc......I like it. I used to live in a farming area. Had a party line, used it then.
RetroCaptain 1 year ago
How do you perform the ring test? What numbers do you dial? Does this work on other Western Electric rotaries?
cfamcny939 1 year ago
Hey Patriot, if you remember me, I was one with a 500. I had ordered it cloth cords to retro fit on it, and the "Rotatone" so I can use it on automated menus.
Well now I have ordered a 302 and can't wait for it to arrive..
hakemon 1 year ago
@hakemon Excellent! Did you have any issues installing the Rotatone in the 500? I've not put any more Rotatones in any of my other phones since my house is still being served by a traditional POTS landline. Is a Rotatone going in the 302 as well, and is it a late thermoplastic one or an early heavyweight metal one? :)
Patriot1776 1 year ago
@Patriot1776 I had a little issue installing it in my 500, as one of the spade connectors didn't work on it causing intermittent use, so I clamped on a new spade connector, and it works fine, minus a "small buzz" after dialing that goes away in 2 seconds. I will be installing the rotatone in the 302, out of the one in my 500 since I only have 1 room here so no need for more than one on the line. Also, it's a metal version..
hakemon 1 year ago
@hakemon , there is a 1941 WE 302 on sale right now on Ebay. Go to seller ID - SELLQUEST007 and place your bid.
MrBerniedippolito 10 months ago
hello, cool videos on old phones..I have an old western electric 302, what wires do i jump to get it to ring in,,it works all the way around but the ringing in..thanks
2140stephen 2 years ago
I love my model 500. But it has the coiled handset cord, and is a 73 model.
I have restored it for the most part as someone in the past totally butchered the wiring.
However, I want the cloth handset cord. Where did you get it?
hakemon 2 years ago
its 67 years old and still works way better & sounds better then todays chinese made shit cordless phones
daewooparts 2 years ago
I am so happy to see someone as passionate about vintage phones as I am. Question Patriot: What do you think about reproductions--not the ones that are being done today but the ones from a few decades ago. For example, in the 70's candlestick phones were reproduced and I just purchased a french rotary dial from 1975-they originated much earlier. The model I just purchased is an "AMERICAN TELECOMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION". DELCO-TEL. MODEL #D-B1330B. Let me know your thoughts.
Adrelle177 2 years ago
I don't have any problem with them. I like them quite a bit as well. I have a couple of these older repro-candlesticks. I think I do need to do a couple videos on them. One of them is a Deco-Tel just like yours, but the other one is a more faithful one that is all metal except for the mouthpiece and the hung receiver and I believe has a Automatic Electric-style dial on it.
Patriot1776 2 years ago
@Adrelle177 there is a 1941 302 on sale right now on Ebay. Go to seller ID - SELLQUEST007 and place your bid
MrBerniedippolito 10 months ago
Hello again! I had another question about my 302 phone. When I did a few ringing tests on it, I noticed something strange. I called my house with the phone opened up so I could see the ringer, and the sound was just BEAUTIFUL, but when I put the casing back on and called it again, the ring was completely different and kind of ugly sounding. What do you think may cause that?
moneyman1934 2 years ago
Check to make sure first, when you close the casing back up, that nothing is binding on the clapper between the ringer bells. I doubt that's happening however, as that would also cause the ringer to not even ring at all. If the ringing just sounds muffled when the phone is closed up, then there's nothing you can really do. Remember the age these things were designed in and the limited technical capability.
Patriot1776 2 years ago
Get all the wires away from the gongs.
matkovicha 2 years ago
Are you a collector of phones? I have hundred of ould phones. Check out my videos if interested.....Those are just a few of my candlesticks.
tell302man 2 years ago
VERY NICE PHONE! I have one too, but it was made in 1939. Also, I was wondering if you could help me with something. Occasionally when I go to dial a number, the dial will make this very strange sound when returning to its normal position; instead of lightly clicking like your phone's dial, it is this very loud clanking. The phone still makes calls just fine, but do you know what the problem might be?
moneyman1934 2 years ago
First off, are you hearing any grinding noises to go along with it, like gears grinding or anything? And does the dial appear to be turning more slowly when that happens than it does when it doesn't happen? If neither of these are true, it shouldn't be anything to worry about, and I would instead just open the phone up and lube the dial with SEWING MACHINE oil.
Patriot1776 2 years ago
I'm so sorry. I just learned that you were a cancer survivor. I meant no offense by the way. I didn't mean anything bad.
Ludwag511 2 years ago
That's okay. I didn't think your comment was offensive anyway.
Patriot1776 2 years ago
Nice job!!! I wanna go find an old phone!!! now...
cycloneCJproducts 2 years ago
Very interesting
kornbelt 3 years ago
You look very odd.
Ludwag511 3 years ago
every book has a story!!!
cycloneCJproducts 2 years ago
i love this video. thanks for making it !!
coffeehigh420 3 years ago
Thanks for the clip.
I found a pile of parts at work for Norhtern Electric 302s. You have inspired me to try and build a working one
northerbrewer 3 years ago
The 302 was made from 1937 to 1941 as a metal cased phone and the after the war it was made in thermo plastic until 1954 NOT 1951
mediawatchonhunger 3 years ago
Thanks much for the info. The 5302 was made then I'm guessing well into the 60's?
Patriot1776 3 years ago
Great video.!!...what number did you dial to make the phone ring by itself...that was very clever...I have one of these 302's that won't ring...this would be a good way to test it after I play with the wiring, looking at a wiring schematic...Looking forward to your reply...You should do more antique telephone videos..
Thanks, Scott
WE302AE 3 years ago
I found a transition telephone on eBay item no. 190218159504.
jefferyb304 3 years ago
chad, the only real physical thing I had to do it to hook it up to today's modular jacks was was attach a biscuit block jack onto the end of the base cord so I could then plug modern line cords into it to run to a modern wall jack.
Patriot1776 3 years ago
Hey Patriot, how did you rewire it to work on modern lines, and will it work with internet telephone service?
chad3200 3 years ago
I didn't have to really do anything to get it to work on modern lines, as today's POTS/voice analog phone service is not any different now electrically then it was in the 1920's when rotary/pulse dial service was introduced. All that's changed is better equipment. I mainly did some VERY slight rewiring to wire it for bridged ringing instead of party-line ringing.
Patriot1776 3 years ago
Please make more videos. There GREAT!!
s15specs 3 years ago
O_O
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
*Explodes* *Hides in terror*
Your shoulders must be killing you, you seemed to be sitting stiff in your seat for the entire time.
Dinoracha 3 years ago