okay this is just insane. Whoever is teaching these young people to partake in doing something like this and calling this the work of God is insane. these people are insane. this video is insane. father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing. This is so insane.
This is so great! I've had the spirit of laughter from God and so have alot of my friends! I feel so amazing and refreshed afterwards. I love how God moves! Jesus is alive!
I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
And these manifestations edify God how?Cause them to reach and touch the unsave when?These things only lead to self notice that?Selfcenteredness that is what this is,nothing to do with gloryfying the King and do His work! Self joy, feel good,and so on.Devil keeping the body of Christ busy laying on the floor and laughing filled with" joy"while he is out there killing and destroying the people that needs to be reached.I wouldn't be so proud of myself! God is crying for the lost souls while you...
You don't even need to have the gift of decernment to know that this is demonic! Sound mind has been given to us by God and He is a God of order! This is outrageous! Demonic laughter! I plead the Blood of Jesus on everyone including myself that watch this!
This is so shallow. I once was a part of this movement and I know all about it. It doesn't prepare people one whit to face the difficulites of the real World. It doesn't have any of those characteristics that make traditional Christiany great and a civilising force in the World. Get out while you still can.
@avissony This is totally the Holy Spirit! God wants us to be filled in his presence and overjoyed with happiness because of Gods goodness! :) He is an awesome God. satan doesn't give people joy. there is NOTHING joyful about darkness. I've been to bethel and experienced Gods AWESOMENESS. maybe, you should ask God for His amazing JOY!? :D love xo
@MissEllie18 I've experienced the joy of the Lord, but this is not it. There is never chaos in God's presence. Miss Ellie, this is what you need to understand: the devil is a really really good liar. The Bible says that many will be deceived. The word used for many can be translated "vast majority". The only way to know the truth is to NOT RELY ON OUR EXPERIENCES. We must rely on God's word. We must! Our experience doesn't determine what's correct, the Word does. This is hinduism; it's satanic.
@MissEllie18 Nowadays, we are so depraved of God's presence that when we see anything that's supernatural as evidence of God. But the Bible says that it's not the case over and over again. Also, go read the history of the church. Look at times when the Holy Ghost showed up and see what happened. It was never this. This manifestation of a false spirit rose up about 20-30 years ago...God's been the same forever. He doesn't change. This is not God, it's the devil.
@MissEllie18 Lastly I just want to apologize for the very strong responses. It's hard to say something online while trying to convey emphasis and humility. I don't mean to offend you, but every night I can hardly sleep because I'm constantly thinking of how many Christians and non-believers alike are deceived. I'm sorry for seeming rude....I just care about...people and what they believe. They're so many lies...and if we're wrong we can influence others for evil. I'm sorry again. God bless you.
quote " The enemy has no domain in a church that is calling down heaven"
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Jesus cast out demons from within the temple--the question is how what let them in there. Confusing times for the church-safer to stay on the narrow way
This is so sad to me. The Bible says to let everything be done decently and in order edifying the Lord. This behavoir is anything but that. People are looking for something that thrills them or for a sign. The devil can duplicate anything but salvation and he sure doesn't want to do that. The Lord left us with many ways of knowing He is God. The word which is the BIBLE, and the Holy Spirit which abides in us and guides each believer...Please read and study the word. Don't be deceived..
@xeturr A good start for you would be to research supernatural phenomena. If you cannot be convinced of that realm in God, do some research on the occult and let the reality of evil convince you. Nevertheless, as long as you live denying that realm, you will be ball and chained in the natural. You are right that "religion" is often used as a tool to control, but you are wrong that the natural realm is all that exists. This is your delusion.
@112sharm Also, you are misled on the issue of self control. Self control does not juxtasuppose to the things of God. In other words, God IS NOT asking you to lay off of the Spirit, His work, or anything He is a part of unless it is to lay it aside out of love for another. If the laughter is of God, self control is NOT an issue. You are arguing a logical fallacy.
This is not dignified worship. More like demonic possession mocking the Holy Spirit. There are true believers in this church who are being deceived most likely. We need to pray for these precious souls!
@janeym Once you have been in a revival culture and learned of who Jesus is personally, and intimately you learn that there are other ways that Jesus SPEAKS to people. He wants us to be overjoyed at the sound of His name. The modern church is stuck in a cycle of being content in their spirituality. we should be constantly thriving after the gifts that Jesus has promised us. What might make you think that this is demonic possession? The enemy has no domain in a church that is calling down heaven.
@alexthelineman Now please show me in the bible where it says the holy spirit will make you drunk, laugh hysterically, and out of your mind?
It's false teachings like this, false doctrines which are leading many through the wide gate to destruction. This church is teaching doctrine outside of the bible!
@janeym this is not demons mocking the holy spirit! The enemy doesnt give Joy...the girls are laughing in the spirit because the spirit of Joy fell upon them. You should asked God to give you the spirit of Joy and i guarantee you will act the same way
@paolaakapdog Sorry but I would disagree with you there the people I see laugh like that for no reason are normally crazy tormented people.
The Holy spirit doesn't give you a spirit of laughter just because a preacher touches you, having the Spirit of the Lord gives you joy peace and love.
@jeanniefavela You're right it's nothing to do with the preacher touching you. it has to do with the fact that its a community of people coming together to seek the Holy Spirit and the joy of God! If your child runs up holding his arm out to give you a bear hug would you pat him on the back or simply hope that that action made himself feel good but refuse to hold him? Well if you would then i feel bad for your kid...but God is the BEST DAD EVER. He wants to give us joy!
"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
This practice is unscriptual! If its outside of the bible, then its of the devil!
To abide in Jesus, is to abide in his word, his word is the bible from beginning to end. Its is the bread of life.
THE BIBLE BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US!
Heres news if you didn't already know this. Jesus is the bible in the flesh. Therefore, everything we need to know about our faith must be followed from the bible. KJV not the other heretical PERversions of his word. Research!
@experiencetimi Once again crazy laughter has nothing to do with Gods love peace and joy this isn't God giving you a hug, when you feel the love of God your heart is at peace and when your heart is at peace that gives you joy you don't need crazy laughter to feel the love of God.
"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
@janeym "Dignity" is overrated. What is dignified in a religious setting is NOT always what God wants. God wants abandonment. "Dignity" is OFTEN an excuse to hold back. David said, "I will be MORE UNDIGNIFIED than this." God wants a people COMPLETELY SOLD OUT, VESSELS OF ABONDONMENT TO HIS PRESENCE AND INDWELLING. PRAISE GOD FOR BETHEL AND ALL THE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE OF THE KINGDOM BRINGING THE GLORY OF GOD TO EARTH.
@denoinwa If there is no control, then most likely it is demonic. Satan can appear as an angel of light, as well as his ministers. There is no need to act as a lunatic, that would be against the nature of God. No wonder people are not turning to the Lord due to craziness like this.
@112sharm Act like a lunatic to who? You? YOU are going to determine what meets the control test? NO, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill, and if the free expression (or "craziness") bothers you, just dont go to that church. Demonizing things you cannot be sure about is not the way, and for every person turned off like you, there are many others wanting the freedom. And by the way, demons dont thrive in places where worship abounds, Jesus is magnified, and the Holy Spirit reigns.
See Gods of the New Age - available on You Tube - then watch this again. QED. If you want good Christian stuff, try Revelations Radio. Chris White and Russ Dizdar will blow your mind - NOT like the above though...
Fake. Fake laughter. It's all a show. They look possessed, especially that one guy who is flailing his arms like crazy. I don't understand how this could be worship at all- pretty soon people at Bethel are going to say that pooping is a form of worship.
There is nothing wrong with this. Some people are use to this and some people arent. Trust me if these were demonic /false spirits they would not be doing that. When have you seen a spirit thats not of God act so happy and joyful when the presence of God is that strong?? Never, they usually try to find a way out of the place. God works in ways we cant even explain, our mind is limited but Gods is not. He knows what He is doing. God bless everyone :)
@makotosolo The question is not what God can do. It's if this is actually God doing this. If you look at the message in scripture it's all about reaching the lost. Go to the Word and see. Jesus's last command was preach the gospel to all people. That's what Jesus was about. That's what Jesus called us to.
Those scriptures I gave warn about entertaining every spirit and that people with be fooled by these spirits. I Love my brothers/sisters to much to just turn a blind eye and not say anything.
@YamiKazeSora Actually the first command is to love the God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and then to love others. The most important thing to God is your relationship to him and from that comes bringing in the lost. Apart from Him you can do nothing. There is nothing wrong with joy or laughing. When joy is missing from the people of God then you have reason to question.
@deathcabfan87 Yes. That is the first command, but not the only one. Yes. There is nothing wrong with laughter and joy, I've experienced laughter and joy in the Holy Spirit. But we should also make sure we are testing the spirits. There are many deceiving spirits. The Bible says that in the last days there will be deceiving signs and that they might even fool the elect, the people of God.
As a sister in Christ, I just want us to be careful before we welcome every spiritual move.
@makotosolo Just cuz the Bible doesn't specifically say doesn't mean it's ok. Here are some verses: (1 Corinth. 14:33)(1 Corinth. 12) (1 John 4:1) (Matt. 24:24) (Matt. 24:15)(1 Tim. 4:1) I just don't want my brothers/sisters to be distracted from seeking God's will and his kingdom by looking for moves of spirits that has been a focus lately. Is this really what Jesus called us to? Is this reaching the lost? Lets use the gifts and focus things that build up, not entertain.
I know people with great spiritual discernment who have experiences like this. there is nothing at all wrong with it. The JOY of the Lord that is inexpressible can happen to people like this. It's nothing too scary
It is a sad day when Christians in America cannot discern the clearly DEMONIC from the Holy Spirit..........Funny how Christians in HAITI know the difference!!!
Normal to us is not normal to God. The true work of the devil is giving christians anti-depressants to deal with their depression. Also in Acts 2:13 it says the crowds thought the disciples were drunk when the Spirit baptised them. Also in Ephesians 5:18 Paul says not to get drunk off wine but to be filled with the Holy Spirit; he is comparing the two in a way. Lastly in Acts 10:44 when the Spirit fell on the people the word "fell" in greek means to seize or to fall into one's embrace
We must be careful not to call the work of the Spirit from the devil. I have seen demons manifest as well and this is not an example. Ask God for right discernment. He will give it to you. When you ask for a fish he will not give you a stone. In Luke 10:34 we see Jesus filled with joy by the Holy Spirit and also in 1Thessalonians 1:6 we see the new believers filled with joy. In these two examples it specifically says "by the Holy Spirit".
Just because a christian has not experienced something like this does not mean it is from the Devil. Why is it that when Christians have joy we think it is not right. We must look at the fruit of their lives. I have personally experienced this as a Christian and it is an amazing, overwelming feeling of joy, drawing me closer to Jesus. It has taken away depression and fear. God is God and he can do what he wants. If he wants to fill his people like this, then he can.
Where in scripture do we see this behavior? Scripture verse please? However it does say that in the end times people will go after seducing spirits, yes even young teens and God will make them drunk with his wrath. People assumed Peter was drunk but no. He rebuked them.
that was clearly fake audio!!! know the place and those noises are ridiculous and that animation of the one person to make her look crazy was fake too. this is a low attempt to make bethel's school look stupid. This is a beautiful soft, blessed, and mellow prayer time with gentle prayers and praise going on. This video has been tampered with by characters we don't need to define.
Furthermore, hysterical laughter should be viewed not as a manifestation of the Spirit but as a human reaction to the work of the Spirit. When the Bible does speak about human reactions of God it's often dramatic, shakes of fear, shouts of joy, sack and ashes of sorrow etc. If people react the same as 2000 years ago when the Spirit comes is not so important as long as it is genuine joy in their souls. By the way, people has laughed like this in most of the revivals I know of, including Azusa.
The people that were responsible for the Vineyard awakening in the 90s in Sweden are my pastors now. They said that many of the people that laughed for hours had been weeping for hours minutes before, but sorrow for sin turned to joy for grace. Videos like these should be placed in context. I know a girl who always when the power of the Spirit get really intense cry, shake and cannot control herself, and we don't discern it to be demons but sorrow for sin. She could use some laughter.
Listen MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. JUST STOP!!!! When someone of the world looks at videos like this and reads all of your comments and howw much DISSENSION there is in them, it gives them another reason to hate Jesus. SO JSUT STOP!!! Its this kind of dissension that will keep the ENTIRE church from experiencing THE 3RD GREAT AWAKENING!!! So stop having your little pitty parties and just enjoy what jesus wants you to experience!!! HIS JOY!
if receving an incounter with the father and being loved on by him is a "self-gratifying experince" than these guys are Guilty.
who is the glory given to here. its not to theme selfs. but to God. unless the kingdome of darkness is so divided that all they can do is make beleavers laugh and spred the joy of the lord.
3 Sorrow is better than laughter, because a sad face is good for the heart.
4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of pleasure.
Ecclesiastes 7:3-4
I am not saying neither does Bible say we must be always with a sad face. There's only a short season for that, when God's convicting us from some sin or something like that.
word for word.......2Ki 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
May 22,1988 to May 21, 2011 is the great tribulation
Are you sure this is the work of the Holy Spirit? I lived in India for a while and this is identical to Kundalini. I wanna share my concern in love. I saw a man from this church jolting around and in hysterics. My friend quietly prayed over him that if anything unholy be in him it would leave. He snarled at her then stopped. I don't know everything but I do know I have the Spirit in me & when I see these things something doesnt feel right. I hope I don't come across as condemning just warning
I personally wouldnt encourage filming people durring the time the spend intamatly with the Lord. Not only is it something personal but I know for a fact many people who arnt serving the Lord who now fear ever knowing the Lord due to things like this broadcasted on the internet or on TV. .Just my opinion, but one to concider. Were called to be Honerable. Something to think about. I know and have experienced God.
I personally wouldnt encourage filming people durring the time the spend intamatly with the Lord. Not only is it something personal but I know for a fact many people who arnt serving the Lord who now fear ever knowing the Lord due to things like this broadcasted on the internet or on TV. .Just my opinion, but one to concider. Were called to be Honerable. Something to think about.
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
It's funny how people always ask, "when did that ever happen in the Bible?" like God is not allowed to anything new. He just has to keep on doing things the way He's done it before. Obviously though, God will never contradict the Word. But what God has done in the past does not limit Him to what He cannot do today. I think that a more important question would be to read the promises of God and ask, "when does that ever happen in your life?" And if never, then why?
woooow... more like demon possessed.. do me a favor Bethel "school of Supernatural Ministry" get yourself some DISCERNMENT then we'll talk.... jeesh. God free us from false doctrines....
Being drunk with wine is the counterfeit of being drunk in the spirit.....satan always has a counterfeit for the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. I have been in a few services like this myself....believe me I never had that happen to me before I was saved and filled with the Holy Spirit unless I'd been drinking, but it surely wasn't the Holy Spirit then.
At one service I was one of the first who it started with. During the service I kept feeling like I just wanted to burst out laughing.
I can only share my experience and offer logic… for 30 or so years I got as much of God as our American traditional Religion dictated… I read my word regularly and went to church on most Sundays… and even Wednesdays in different periods of my life. I never knew a God that was really alive, cared about me, and didn’t use guilt and shame to keep my walk in line. About a 1yr ago my mom took me to bethel for the healing room’s ministry to get prayed for. Yes thoughts of judgment, speculation,
@beunoffendable (cont) and reservation entered my mind for several weeks before the HS really ministered to my heart… this is what I heard… “YOUR JUDGMENT has got to go now… you can not judge what “I AM”(HS) doing on the inside of someone based on what you see on the outside.”
Now I thought all this was strange too at first… shaking (what I call doing the jerky jerk), laughing at random times while in church, rolling around on the ground laughing(being drunk).
@beunoffendable (cont) So I said you are right Lord… who am I to judge someone else’s relationship with God… that’s between them and God… if someone is manifesting the HS presence then they know whether or not they are faking it or if it is truly an involuntary response to HS.
What I know is my responsibility for my own walk is to judge what enters me and what theology I adopt. I believe that rather than judging the person… lets judge the fruits of their actions…. That being said…
@beunoffendable (cont) … laughing and joy is a 1/3 of the kingdom (the kingdom of God is Righteousness, peace and joy)… so joy and laughing… even rolling around on the floor gut wrenching laughter is not bad fruit in my opinion. As for the jerky jerk and other manifestations of the HS that people have… Does it bother me? Does it cause damage to the kingdom if someone looks different? They are doing it predominately in the church which is in the atmosphere, culture, and boundaries
@beunoffendable (cont) that has been established at Bethel… I have yet to see a fire tunnel or people rolling around on the floor at wal-mart and any other public place.
So I had to really practice that 1 Corinthians 13… 4Love is patient, etc:
Now the best part… after a couple months of growing with the Lord and witnessing some real live healings and miracles take place… I got jealous (righteously)… I wanted a deeper connection with the HS and if I have to look a fool or lose control
@beunoffendable (cont) to get closer to God I was ok with that (as long as I wasn’t faking it) it didn’t come the first time I asked or even the tenth… I remember crying out to God for a closer deeper relationship for awhile… I wanted to feel his presences like all those other people… laughing, and jerking and whatever else… they have something I don’t and if that’s from you God I want it. And what I can tell you is that it is actually harder in the beginning to let go of “fear of man”
@beunoffendable (cont) and roll on the ground laughing full of joy then it is to control your emotions and block out or ignore what the HS wants to do in all of us… different people manifest differently but I can tell you when I started doing the jerky jerk… I was embarrassed or like self conscious… I thought something was medically wrong with me… until one day God made it perfectly clear that this electric style volt that runs from my head to my toes was actually the presence of the HS.
@beunoffendable (cont) … personally since I am crying out to God, Jesus, and the HS for greater encounters I have to assume that these sensations come from him. Luke 11: 11"Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead? 12Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"NIV
@beunoffendable (cont) more on my FB page under my notes... hyperlink will not work but if your interested in more of my expierence on manifestation you will have to respond with your email and i can give you the link...
I LOVE getting drunk with the Spirit of Joy...so many people look at you weird and laugh at you because you're laughing. But if they experience what you're experiencing then....gosh idk. God is just so good
Yeah, you are right its different. The Holy Spirit is being released in a great more powerful measure! That means more unbelievable, uncontrollable JOY!
Keep reading ur bible and u'll be fine :) ... notice that there's not a single scripture in there that would suggest that the Holy Spirit is interested in making u drunk. Furthermore, the last fruit of the spirit is self control, which ironically enough seems rather compromised here :(
who gives you the right to say they offend god! those people are just experiencing joy with the lord, the fact that you may not agree on this gives you no right to say they offend the lord. that is not from god you say that but from the devil. i rebuke anyone that says such things to people loving god like this. i rebuke the devil in jesus name that anyone will think legalistic towards the joy of GOD!
Thus says the LORD: Behold, I will fill all the inhabitants of this land—even the kings who sit on Davids throne, the priests, the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness! And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, says the LORD. I will not pity nor spare nor have mercy, but will destroy them.
Its hard for me reading through the comments that are negative because they don't understand. I believe that the devil is raising up confusion and disagreement on this issue because he knows that once we get the JOY of the Lord, We will have the STRENGTH to overpower his kingdom with the slightest efforts.
Why do so many of you assume these people don't preach and teach and evangelize?
I think it's rather funny, actually, that you'd see a video of people laughing and assume that's all they ever do. You probably watch more TV than they laugh. lol
Can someone show me, with scripture in context, any part of the ministry of the Holy Spirit in which this is described or even hinted at?
What we have here is a group of believers (hopefully) that have been taken from active witnessing and edification and strengthening of the body to being consumed in a self-gratifying experience.
Paul addressed this type of thing asking how such a thing would witness to a non-believer. This is deception, pure and simple.
They were all in one accord, then bam! The Holy Spirit shows up! Crazy things start happening. The onlookers said they looked drunk.
This's the 1st experience of the Holy Spirit in the church. We should still have this.
There r Christians who spend an hour laughing, and there r those who spend an hour watching TV. Which one, after their "self-gratifying experience" gets up and heals the sick, shares the gospel, and brings Jesus to the streets? The proof's in the puddin.
Note in Acts 2 that, even while accused of being drunk, they spoke in languages people understood. The accusation was one of derision, not that they actually appeared to be drunk.
There is nothing about Pentecost that resembles what is happening here. Your statements are just that, unquantified and unqualified statements.
The proof is not just in the puddin', it is also backed up with scripture, rightly divided and in context. Please be so kind as to show me some that justifies this.
The onlookers did not say they "looked drunk". What the onlookers could not understand was how people could be speaking in languages that were not familiar to them. Instead of acknowledging God's work they blamed it on them being drunk. And so from that huge misinterpretation we've decided that God wants to make us drunk in His Spirit. The opposite is actually true.. He says, don't get drunk on wine but let my Spirit fill u. If we do that we should have no desire to be intoxicated.
We have to remember that the devil attempts to duplicate as much of God's works as he can.
There are false tongues, false prophecy, false healing....
Anything from bethel is suspect to me. I view it very cautiously. While I have heard some good leaders in that church, they are subject to open doors for demons because of their false doctrine that a believer cannot have a demon.
Yet, Jesus cast out many demons from Jews. And, modern exorcists continue to free Christians from demons.
I too am suspect of some of the stuff coming out of Bethel. But let me assure you a Christian cannot be filled with a demon. Christ and the Devil cannot share the same temple for one second. A Jew is not a Christian necessarily evidenced by the fact that there are Jewish Christians. Christians have the power to cast out demons. so if u were a christian (and u would know if u had one) u would just cast it out yourself, right? That's irrelevant tho because they can't enter in the first place :)
@KnowJesusKnowPeace Can you let me know what message from Bethel indicated they teach that a believer cannot have a demon. i have been to their schools of healing. They teach that a believer cannot be possessed (because possession is ownership). They do teach that believers can be demonized. One example given is Peter in Matthew 16. Peter speaks and then Jesus says "get behind me Satan.".
@yrureadingmyusername they were only saying they were drunk because they were speaking gibberish (at least to the unbelievers thats what it sounded like). being drunk in the spirit is no where in scripture. in fact, the word tells us that in the last days we are to be sober minded. and that doesnt mean legalistic or anything. i'm a spirit filled person myself. but this kind of stuff is not in scripture
@yrureadingmyusername No, crazy things didn't start happening. Amazing things happened. People spoke in other languages, but it was languages others understood because it was their native language. Just throwing references and assuming there is a connection to this is dangerous, at best. There was nothing at Pentecost that resembled this. There is no scriptural basis for this.
Your claims not withstanding, the proof is not in the puddin but in God's word.
Sorry, but there's no hope in justfying wrong. Neither this fire-tunnel or uncontrollable laughing and "holy" drunkenness are Biblical.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, SELF-CONTROL; against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23
Also there's numerous verses that command us to be sober. The Bible doesn't tell us to be drunk, but FILLED with the Spirit.
Why does unscriptural stuff happen in churches like this? For example: "gold dust", "gems" and "angel" feathers appearing.
They're nothing but false miracles.
"An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed." Matthew 16:4
"Which one, after their "self-gratifying experience" gets up and heals the sick, shares the gospel, and brings Jesus to the streets? The proof's in the puddin."
Well, healing the sick isn't a proof you're doing the will of God. I don't know how, but according to the Bible it's possible to do miracles in Jesus' name and still not know Him.
okay this is just insane. Whoever is teaching these young people to partake in doing something like this and calling this the work of God is insane. these people are insane. this video is insane. father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing. This is so insane.
musicallyhigth 6 days ago
This is so great! I've had the spirit of laughter from God and so have alot of my friends! I feel so amazing and refreshed afterwards. I love how God moves! Jesus is alive!
Pattydspence 1 week ago
I don't believe this is in the Orderly Worship section in 1 Corinthians 14...
PLURIC 2 weeks ago
I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
Yes Accursed!
00Gladiator1 3 weeks ago
Sad, very sad!
this is spiritual abduction of children!
00Gladiator1 3 weeks ago
that just happen tonight!!!crazy
ravewarrior8 1 month ago
And these manifestations edify God how?Cause them to reach and touch the unsave when?These things only lead to self notice that?Selfcenteredness that is what this is,nothing to do with gloryfying the King and do His work! Self joy, feel good,and so on.Devil keeping the body of Christ busy laying on the floor and laughing filled with" joy"while he is out there killing and destroying the people that needs to be reached.I wouldn't be so proud of myself! God is crying for the lost souls while you...
FollowGodAlmighty 2 months ago
@FollowGodAlmighty Your right on!
jeanniefavela 6 days ago
You don't even need to have the gift of decernment to know that this is demonic! Sound mind has been given to us by God and He is a God of order! This is outrageous! Demonic laughter! I plead the Blood of Jesus on everyone including myself that watch this!
GarretJunior 2 months ago
This is demonic NOT from God at all!!!!
onfire242 2 months ago
Absolute crap. If you are involved in this false teaching, get out. RUN!
theskinimin81 2 months ago
thats all the time at my church they where laughing
emoscreemer12 3 months ago
i felt no joy in watching that and it scared me.
dthwraith69 3 months ago
sorry, but what a lot of crap!
playme07 3 months ago
Looks like the "retard flop" to me.
bentopapa007 3 months ago
This is so shallow. I once was a part of this movement and I know all about it. It doesn't prepare people one whit to face the difficulites of the real World. It doesn't have any of those characteristics that make traditional Christiany great and a civilising force in the World. Get out while you still can.
Paatrikklives 3 months ago
Really?
sandlovr 4 months ago
KUNDALINI WARNING. This is NOT the Holy Spirit, this is the devil's trick. 1 Timothy 4:1.
avissony 4 months ago
@avissony This is totally the Holy Spirit! God wants us to be filled in his presence and overjoyed with happiness because of Gods goodness! :) He is an awesome God. satan doesn't give people joy. there is NOTHING joyful about darkness. I've been to bethel and experienced Gods AWESOMENESS. maybe, you should ask God for His amazing JOY!? :D love xo
MissEllie18 4 months ago
@MissEllie18 I've experienced the joy of the Lord, but this is not it. There is never chaos in God's presence. Miss Ellie, this is what you need to understand: the devil is a really really good liar. The Bible says that many will be deceived. The word used for many can be translated "vast majority". The only way to know the truth is to NOT RELY ON OUR EXPERIENCES. We must rely on God's word. We must! Our experience doesn't determine what's correct, the Word does. This is hinduism; it's satanic.
avissony 4 months ago 2
@MissEllie18 Nowadays, we are so depraved of God's presence that when we see anything that's supernatural as evidence of God. But the Bible says that it's not the case over and over again. Also, go read the history of the church. Look at times when the Holy Ghost showed up and see what happened. It was never this. This manifestation of a false spirit rose up about 20-30 years ago...God's been the same forever. He doesn't change. This is not God, it's the devil.
avissony 4 months ago
@MissEllie18 Lastly I just want to apologize for the very strong responses. It's hard to say something online while trying to convey emphasis and humility. I don't mean to offend you, but every night I can hardly sleep because I'm constantly thinking of how many Christians and non-believers alike are deceived. I'm sorry for seeming rude....I just care about...people and what they believe. They're so many lies...and if we're wrong we can influence others for evil. I'm sorry again. God bless you.
avissony 4 months ago
quote " The enemy has no domain in a church that is calling down heaven"
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Jesus cast out demons from within the temple--the question is how what let them in there. Confusing times for the church-safer to stay on the narrow way
fish5133 5 months ago
spiritual masturbastion at the very least demonic at worst. Sorry to be blunt but
' WAKE UP' church.
burpmamv2 5 months ago
This is so sad to me. The Bible says to let everything be done decently and in order edifying the Lord. This behavoir is anything but that. People are looking for something that thrills them or for a sign. The devil can duplicate anything but salvation and he sure doesn't want to do that. The Lord left us with many ways of knowing He is God. The word which is the BIBLE, and the Holy Spirit which abides in us and guides each believer...Please read and study the word. Don't be deceived..
bogielee 5 months ago
Soooo good! :D
ichooselife00 5 months ago
The army of the Lord ?
alamo11 6 months ago
Religion is a disease... a delusion. It is a tool used by people who can't accept the fact that when they die, that's it. There is nothing.
xeturr 6 months ago
@xeturr A good start for you would be to research supernatural phenomena. If you cannot be convinced of that realm in God, do some research on the occult and let the reality of evil convince you. Nevertheless, as long as you live denying that realm, you will be ball and chained in the natural. You are right that "religion" is often used as a tool to control, but you are wrong that the natural realm is all that exists. This is your delusion.
denoinwa 6 months ago 3
God will never go against His word, and the Holy Spirit will never operate out of His nature, one being SELF-CONTROL.
112sharm 6 months ago
@112sharm Also, you are misled on the issue of self control. Self control does not juxtasuppose to the things of God. In other words, God IS NOT asking you to lay off of the Spirit, His work, or anything He is a part of unless it is to lay it aside out of love for another. If the laughter is of God, self control is NOT an issue. You are arguing a logical fallacy.
denoinwa 6 months ago
they really sound like demons
teamoJesus08 6 months ago
I've never been so fucking disturbed in my life...
KillaD15 6 months ago
This stuff was the only thing I was sceptoc about when I visited the church this year.
Petriealright 7 months ago
This is not dignified worship. More like demonic possession mocking the Holy Spirit. There are true believers in this church who are being deceived most likely. We need to pray for these precious souls!
janeym 7 months ago
@janeym Once you have been in a revival culture and learned of who Jesus is personally, and intimately you learn that there are other ways that Jesus SPEAKS to people. He wants us to be overjoyed at the sound of His name. The modern church is stuck in a cycle of being content in their spirituality. we should be constantly thriving after the gifts that Jesus has promised us. What might make you think that this is demonic possession? The enemy has no domain in a church that is calling down heaven.
alexthelineman 7 months ago 4
@alexthelineman You should actually read the Bible... it tells you quite the opposite of what you are saying.
TiagoNikkiJesus 4 months ago
@alexthelineman Now please show me in the bible where it says the holy spirit will make you drunk, laugh hysterically, and out of your mind?
It's false teachings like this, false doctrines which are leading many through the wide gate to destruction. This church is teaching doctrine outside of the bible!
LordsWatchman 2 months ago
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@alexthelineman Please do some research on the kundalini spirit you will be surprised!!
And after that, see if you still think that this awesome manifestation of the holy spirit. I pray that your eyes will be opened!!
FollowGodAlmighty 2 months ago
@janeym this is not demons mocking the holy spirit! The enemy doesnt give Joy...the girls are laughing in the spirit because the spirit of Joy fell upon them. You should asked God to give you the spirit of Joy and i guarantee you will act the same way
paolaakapdog 7 months ago 3
@paolaakapdog Sorry but I would disagree with you there the people I see laugh like that for no reason are normally crazy tormented people.
The Holy spirit doesn't give you a spirit of laughter just because a preacher touches you, having the Spirit of the Lord gives you joy peace and love.
jeanniefavela 4 months ago
@jeanniefavela You're right it's nothing to do with the preacher touching you. it has to do with the fact that its a community of people coming together to seek the Holy Spirit and the joy of God! If your child runs up holding his arm out to give you a bear hug would you pat him on the back or simply hope that that action made himself feel good but refuse to hold him? Well if you would then i feel bad for your kid...but God is the BEST DAD EVER. He wants to give us joy!
experiencetimi 2 months ago
@experiencetimi
"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
1 Peter 1:13, KJV
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"
1 Peter 5:8, KJV
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 2Tim 1: 7
God wants you to be of sound mind,
LordsWatchman 2 months ago
@experiencetimi
This practice is unscriptual! If its outside of the bible, then its of the devil!
To abide in Jesus, is to abide in his word, his word is the bible from beginning to end. Its is the bread of life.
THE BIBLE BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US!
Heres news if you didn't already know this. Jesus is the bible in the flesh. Therefore, everything we need to know about our faith must be followed from the bible. KJV not the other heretical PERversions of his word. Research!
LordsWatchman 2 months ago
@experiencetimi Once again crazy laughter has nothing to do with Gods love peace and joy this isn't God giving you a hug, when you feel the love of God your heart is at peace and when your heart is at peace that gives you joy you don't need crazy laughter to feel the love of God.
jeanniefavela 6 days ago
@paolaakapdog You will not... I left these teachings because I actually read the Bible and knew the True God of the Bible... he is different..
TiagoNikkiJesus 4 months ago
@paolaakapdog
"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
1 Peter 1:13, KJV
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"
1 Peter 5:8, KJV
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 2Tim 1: 7
LordsWatchman 2 months ago
@paolaakapdog Please do some research on the kundalini spirit you will be surprised!!
And after that, if you still think that this awesome manifestation of the holy spirit. I pray that your eyes will be opened!!
FollowGodAlmighty 2 months ago
@janeym "Dignity" is overrated. What is dignified in a religious setting is NOT always what God wants. God wants abandonment. "Dignity" is OFTEN an excuse to hold back. David said, "I will be MORE UNDIGNIFIED than this." God wants a people COMPLETELY SOLD OUT, VESSELS OF ABONDONMENT TO HIS PRESENCE AND INDWELLING. PRAISE GOD FOR BETHEL AND ALL THE ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE OF THE KINGDOM BRINGING THE GLORY OF GOD TO EARTH.
denoinwa 7 months ago
@denoinwa God gave us dignity, so why hold it back from Him?? And you are totally right. Dignity is overrated!
Glory2theLamb11 7 months ago
@denoinwa If there is no control, then most likely it is demonic. Satan can appear as an angel of light, as well as his ministers. There is no need to act as a lunatic, that would be against the nature of God. No wonder people are not turning to the Lord due to craziness like this.
112sharm 6 months ago
@112sharm Act like a lunatic to who? You? YOU are going to determine what meets the control test? NO, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill, and if the free expression (or "craziness") bothers you, just dont go to that church. Demonizing things you cannot be sure about is not the way, and for every person turned off like you, there are many others wanting the freedom. And by the way, demons dont thrive in places where worship abounds, Jesus is magnified, and the Holy Spirit reigns.
denoinwa 6 months ago
See Gods of the New Age - available on You Tube - then watch this again. QED. If you want good Christian stuff, try Revelations Radio. Chris White and Russ Dizdar will blow your mind - NOT like the above though...
ruthamyallan1 7 months ago
anyone who has seen a demon manifest would't make that comment
michaelbranson77 7 months ago
@michaelbranson77 Hey, I know that's right Michaelbranson!
Glory2theLamb11 7 months ago
These "IMPARTATIONS" ARE FULL OF DEMONS. GET OUTTA THERE!
repentUsinner 7 months ago
I LOVE being drunk in the Spirit! NOTHING LIKE IT!!!!
Glory2theLamb11 8 months ago
@Glory2theLamb11
Its an amazing feeling..
ende112 7 months ago
Fake. Fake laughter. It's all a show. They look possessed, especially that one guy who is flailing his arms like crazy. I don't understand how this could be worship at all- pretty soon people at Bethel are going to say that pooping is a form of worship.
Willdabest15 8 months ago
@Willdabest15 I worship whenever I poop. You can too! You can worship while you're doing anything! Haha!
radicallyaltered 7 months ago
There is nothing wrong with this. Some people are use to this and some people arent. Trust me if these were demonic /false spirits they would not be doing that. When have you seen a spirit thats not of God act so happy and joyful when the presence of God is that strong?? Never, they usually try to find a way out of the place. God works in ways we cant even explain, our mind is limited but Gods is not. He knows what He is doing. God bless everyone :)
thecub20 9 months ago
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thecub20 9 months ago
can someone send a deliverance team in there?
RoffaJaffa 9 months ago
@RoffaJaffa amen!
jarredkolvick 8 months ago
@makotosolo Also, I saw that video you posted about the boys leg being healed.
Now THAT is a use of Spiritual gifts that Jesus would be proud of.
I can't comment on it there so, I thought I'd comment here! ^-^ lol.
YamiKazeSora 9 months ago
@makotosolo The question is not what God can do. It's if this is actually God doing this. If you look at the message in scripture it's all about reaching the lost. Go to the Word and see. Jesus's last command was preach the gospel to all people. That's what Jesus was about. That's what Jesus called us to.
Those scriptures I gave warn about entertaining every spirit and that people with be fooled by these spirits. I Love my brothers/sisters to much to just turn a blind eye and not say anything.
YamiKazeSora 9 months ago
@YamiKazeSora Actually the first command is to love the God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and then to love others. The most important thing to God is your relationship to him and from that comes bringing in the lost. Apart from Him you can do nothing. There is nothing wrong with joy or laughing. When joy is missing from the people of God then you have reason to question.
deathcabfan87 9 months ago
@deathcabfan87 Yes. That is the first command, but not the only one. Yes. There is nothing wrong with laughter and joy, I've experienced laughter and joy in the Holy Spirit. But we should also make sure we are testing the spirits. There are many deceiving spirits. The Bible says that in the last days there will be deceiving signs and that they might even fool the elect, the people of God.
As a sister in Christ, I just want us to be careful before we welcome every spiritual move.
YamiKazeSora 9 months ago
@makotosolo Just cuz the Bible doesn't specifically say doesn't mean it's ok. Here are some verses: (1 Corinth. 14:33)(1 Corinth. 12) (1 John 4:1) (Matt. 24:24) (Matt. 24:15)(1 Tim. 4:1) I just don't want my brothers/sisters to be distracted from seeking God's will and his kingdom by looking for moves of spirits that has been a focus lately. Is this really what Jesus called us to? Is this reaching the lost? Lets use the gifts and focus things that build up, not entertain.
God Bless with Love.
YamiKazeSora 9 months ago
God is not the author of confusion or disorder. (1 Corinth. 14:33)
God's gifts were for building up the ministry. Uncontrollable fits don't build up the church. (1 Corinth. 12)
I've seen laughing/ have laughed in the spirit and Joy of the Lord, but this is not it.
It's not judging, but sister who loves her brothers and sisters in Christ.
Test every spirit. (1 John 4:1) There are many false/imitating spirits. Don't be fooled. (Matt. 24:24) (Matt. 24:15)(Daniel 11:31-32)(1 Tim. 4:1)
YamiKazeSora 9 months ago
I know people with great spiritual discernment who have experiences like this. there is nothing at all wrong with it. The JOY of the Lord that is inexpressible can happen to people like this. It's nothing too scary
trispytreems 9 months ago
OMG THESE CHRISTIANS ARE S00000 ZANY
rustyrobot 9 months ago 2
Idiots/Victims.
intruder313 9 months ago
Not amazing at all. Sounds like demons mocking God.
1364jimmyz 9 months ago
Kind of takes your breath away, doesn't it?
mcrd2001 10 months ago
You guys aren't TRUE Christians.
GreatBigBore 10 months ago
@GreatBigBore wow, that was fast
anoldcrow 10 months ago
@anoldcrow "wow, that was fast"
Yeah, just uploaded a video and watching the conversation, so I got your comment right away.
GreatBigBore 10 months ago
@anoldcrow well if you want DEEPER INTIMACY with jesus try this one "Convergence School of Supernatural Ministry, Fort Worth, TX"
anoldcrow 10 months ago
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fl8dfilm 10 months ago in playlist Jesus Culture Awakening Chicago 2011
If you close your eyes and press play... its sounds like pure evil. I will pray for these people and others in this cult.
fl8dfilm 10 months ago
My pastor told me once... "If a church comes out with a REVOLUTIONARY way of doing something...RUN AWAY!!!"
fl8dfilm 10 months ago
It is a sad day when Christians in America cannot discern the clearly DEMONIC from the Holy Spirit..........Funny how Christians in HAITI know the difference!!!
MarkGJudy1 10 months ago
Normal to us is not normal to God. The true work of the devil is giving christians anti-depressants to deal with their depression. Also in Acts 2:13 it says the crowds thought the disciples were drunk when the Spirit baptised them. Also in Ephesians 5:18 Paul says not to get drunk off wine but to be filled with the Holy Spirit; he is comparing the two in a way. Lastly in Acts 10:44 when the Spirit fell on the people the word "fell" in greek means to seize or to fall into one's embrace
deathcabfan87 10 months ago
We must be careful not to call the work of the Spirit from the devil. I have seen demons manifest as well and this is not an example. Ask God for right discernment. He will give it to you. When you ask for a fish he will not give you a stone. In Luke 10:34 we see Jesus filled with joy by the Holy Spirit and also in 1Thessalonians 1:6 we see the new believers filled with joy. In these two examples it specifically says "by the Holy Spirit".
deathcabfan87 10 months ago
Just because a christian has not experienced something like this does not mean it is from the Devil. Why is it that when Christians have joy we think it is not right. We must look at the fruit of their lives. I have personally experienced this as a Christian and it is an amazing, overwelming feeling of joy, drawing me closer to Jesus. It has taken away depression and fear. God is God and he can do what he wants. If he wants to fill his people like this, then he can.
deathcabfan87 10 months ago
Where in scripture do we see this behavior? Scripture verse please? However it does say that in the end times people will go after seducing spirits, yes even young teens and God will make them drunk with his wrath. People assumed Peter was drunk but no. He rebuked them.
freespeachrulez 10 months ago
these people arent christians , they're trapped in a satanic cult... nothing to do with Chrst going on here....
FlipFlibbo 10 months ago
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@FlipFlibbo And your source on that is....?
superdupersonic 10 months ago
This is the kundalini spirit. Ask for discernment church!
themotionaddict2 11 months ago
Isaac Gaye get out from there!!!!!!!!!!! This is madness.
marianburroughs 1 year ago
I ate a special brownie last week that made me do the same thing
bjjindiana 1 year ago 2
that was clearly fake audio!!! know the place and those noises are ridiculous and that animation of the one person to make her look crazy was fake too. this is a low attempt to make bethel's school look stupid. This is a beautiful soft, blessed, and mellow prayer time with gentle prayers and praise going on. This video has been tampered with by characters we don't need to define.
bvandebunte 1 year ago
Furthermore, hysterical laughter should be viewed not as a manifestation of the Spirit but as a human reaction to the work of the Spirit. When the Bible does speak about human reactions of God it's often dramatic, shakes of fear, shouts of joy, sack and ashes of sorrow etc. If people react the same as 2000 years ago when the Spirit comes is not so important as long as it is genuine joy in their souls. By the way, people has laughed like this in most of the revivals I know of, including Azusa.
helapingsten 1 year ago
The people that were responsible for the Vineyard awakening in the 90s in Sweden are my pastors now. They said that many of the people that laughed for hours had been weeping for hours minutes before, but sorrow for sin turned to joy for grace. Videos like these should be placed in context. I know a girl who always when the power of the Spirit get really intense cry, shake and cannot control herself, and we don't discern it to be demons but sorrow for sin. She could use some laughter.
helapingsten 1 year ago
Listen MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. JUST STOP!!!! When someone of the world looks at videos like this and reads all of your comments and howw much DISSENSION there is in them, it gives them another reason to hate Jesus. SO JSUT STOP!!! Its this kind of dissension that will keep the ENTIRE church from experiencing THE 3RD GREAT AWAKENING!!! So stop having your little pitty parties and just enjoy what jesus wants you to experience!!! HIS JOY!
yourlovecamedown 1 year ago
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rightoncuedeano 4 months ago
Such strange behavior.
rramser08 1 year ago
Such strange behavior.
rramser08 1 year ago
if receving an incounter with the father and being loved on by him is a "self-gratifying experince" than these guys are Guilty.
who is the glory given to here. its not to theme selfs. but to God. unless the kingdome of darkness is so divided that all they can do is make beleavers laugh and spred the joy of the lord.
theJokingJoker 1 year ago
3 Sorrow is better than laughter, because a sad face is good for the heart.
4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, but the heart of fools is in the house of pleasure.
Ecclesiastes 7:3-4
I am not saying neither does Bible say we must be always with a sad face. There's only a short season for that, when God's convicting us from some sin or something like that.
Continues...
xTHExELEVENTHxHOURx 1 year ago
word for word.......2Ki 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
May 22,1988 to May 21, 2011 is the great tribulation
go to Wecanknow website
TheEOW2011 1 year ago
Are these Charles Manson's followers?
wscott16 1 year ago
By the way. I want to mention that I completely believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit! But I completely believe in discernment too :)
lionsvolleyball3 1 year ago
Are you sure this is the work of the Holy Spirit? I lived in India for a while and this is identical to Kundalini. I wanna share my concern in love. I saw a man from this church jolting around and in hysterics. My friend quietly prayed over him that if anything unholy be in him it would leave. He snarled at her then stopped. I don't know everything but I do know I have the Spirit in me & when I see these things something doesnt feel right. I hope I don't come across as condemning just warning
lionsvolleyball3 1 year ago
I personally wouldnt encourage filming people durring the time the spend intamatly with the Lord. Not only is it something personal but I know for a fact many people who arnt serving the Lord who now fear ever knowing the Lord due to things like this broadcasted on the internet or on TV. .Just my opinion, but one to concider. Were called to be Honerable. Something to think about. I know and have experienced God.
89rayechel 1 year ago
I personally wouldnt encourage filming people durring the time the spend intamatly with the Lord. Not only is it something personal but I know for a fact many people who arnt serving the Lord who now fear ever knowing the Lord due to things like this broadcasted on the internet or on TV. .Just my opinion, but one to concider. Were called to be Honerable. Something to think about.
89rayechel 1 year ago
@tspencley3 what about relationship with God :) ??
Kjeldsen4 1 year ago
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
RLF777 1 year ago
@RLF777
Ok. Thanks! You a GOOD boy! :-)
davidbrucemusicvideo 1 year ago
Beth Aven ! Beth Aven ! Beth Aven !
RLF777 1 year ago
ahahahahaha! makes me want to have a good time laughing with Jesus too! :)
MsJeStaR 1 year ago
It's funny how people always ask, "when did that ever happen in the Bible?" like God is not allowed to anything new. He just has to keep on doing things the way He's done it before. Obviously though, God will never contradict the Word. But what God has done in the past does not limit Him to what He cannot do today. I think that a more important question would be to read the promises of God and ask, "when does that ever happen in your life?" And if never, then why?
jonsolo1038 1 year ago
O___O Holy crap I have never seen no S. like that in my entire life.
KingDingaLing090 1 year ago
Jesus teaches us to judge a tree by its fruit. If good fruit comes from the experience, praise God! If not, then it's obviously not from God.
PorterBCyr 1 year ago
Wow, part of me (a morbid part) wonder how deep this rabbit hole goes. I think I'm not going to bother to find out.
Uriel1018 1 year ago
woooow... more like demon possessed.. do me a favor Bethel "school of Supernatural Ministry" get yourself some DISCERNMENT then we'll talk.... jeesh. God free us from false doctrines....
raptordudeJCR 1 year ago
Being drunk with wine is the counterfeit of being drunk in the spirit.....satan always has a counterfeit for the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. I have been in a few services like this myself....believe me I never had that happen to me before I was saved and filled with the Holy Spirit unless I'd been drinking, but it surely wasn't the Holy Spirit then.
At one service I was one of the first who it started with. During the service I kept feeling like I just wanted to burst out laughing.
PRAISEisWHOiAM10 1 year ago
I can only share my experience and offer logic… for 30 or so years I got as much of God as our American traditional Religion dictated… I read my word regularly and went to church on most Sundays… and even Wednesdays in different periods of my life. I never knew a God that was really alive, cared about me, and didn’t use guilt and shame to keep my walk in line. About a 1yr ago my mom took me to bethel for the healing room’s ministry to get prayed for. Yes thoughts of judgment, speculation,
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) and reservation entered my mind for several weeks before the HS really ministered to my heart… this is what I heard… “YOUR JUDGMENT has got to go now… you can not judge what “I AM”(HS) doing on the inside of someone based on what you see on the outside.”
Now I thought all this was strange too at first… shaking (what I call doing the jerky jerk), laughing at random times while in church, rolling around on the ground laughing(being drunk).
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) So I said you are right Lord… who am I to judge someone else’s relationship with God… that’s between them and God… if someone is manifesting the HS presence then they know whether or not they are faking it or if it is truly an involuntary response to HS.
What I know is my responsibility for my own walk is to judge what enters me and what theology I adopt. I believe that rather than judging the person… lets judge the fruits of their actions…. That being said…
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) … laughing and joy is a 1/3 of the kingdom (the kingdom of God is Righteousness, peace and joy)… so joy and laughing… even rolling around on the floor gut wrenching laughter is not bad fruit in my opinion. As for the jerky jerk and other manifestations of the HS that people have… Does it bother me? Does it cause damage to the kingdom if someone looks different? They are doing it predominately in the church which is in the atmosphere, culture, and boundaries
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) that has been established at Bethel… I have yet to see a fire tunnel or people rolling around on the floor at wal-mart and any other public place.
So I had to really practice that 1 Corinthians 13… 4Love is patient, etc:
Now the best part… after a couple months of growing with the Lord and witnessing some real live healings and miracles take place… I got jealous (righteously)… I wanted a deeper connection with the HS and if I have to look a fool or lose control
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) to get closer to God I was ok with that (as long as I wasn’t faking it) it didn’t come the first time I asked or even the tenth… I remember crying out to God for a closer deeper relationship for awhile… I wanted to feel his presences like all those other people… laughing, and jerking and whatever else… they have something I don’t and if that’s from you God I want it. And what I can tell you is that it is actually harder in the beginning to let go of “fear of man”
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) and roll on the ground laughing full of joy then it is to control your emotions and block out or ignore what the HS wants to do in all of us… different people manifest differently but I can tell you when I started doing the jerky jerk… I was embarrassed or like self conscious… I thought something was medically wrong with me… until one day God made it perfectly clear that this electric style volt that runs from my head to my toes was actually the presence of the HS.
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) … personally since I am crying out to God, Jesus, and the HS for greater encounters I have to assume that these sensations come from him. Luke 11: 11"Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead? 12Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"NIV
beunoffendable 1 year ago
@beunoffendable (cont) more on my FB page under my notes... hyperlink will not work but if your interested in more of my expierence on manifestation you will have to respond with your email and i can give you the link...
have a blessed day...
God is in a good mood... all the time
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beunoffendable 1 year ago
I LOVE getting drunk with the Spirit of Joy...so many people look at you weird and laugh at you because you're laughing. But if they experience what you're experiencing then....gosh idk. God is just so good
WOP1967 1 year ago
what I dont understand is why you would put this on youtube??
Like does Ps Bill Johnson know that this is on here?? If he doenst care than sweet keep posting but if he doesnt know then there is an issue....
xt4t1k 1 year ago
He mann dass macht mir Angst,
MsVolker777 1 year ago
little English this is uncool paranoid,Spiret????????????????????; I like Jesus CHRIST and Maria von Magdaler= evangelium von Maria Magdaler
MsVolker777 1 year ago
HHHHAAAAA hahahahahahah......my fav part :)
jakedasnake0011 1 year ago
I wish stupidity was physically painful. That would put an end to all this religious bullshit in half a second.
Veteran4Peace 1 year ago
I do not believe this is God's touch. I have seen people laughing in the spirit, with joy, before... This sounds very, very different.
Sounds like witchcraft.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
Yeah, you are right its different. The Holy Spirit is being released in a great more powerful measure! That means more unbelievable, uncontrollable JOY!
Jordanallen98 2 years ago 2
Just pray that the Holy Spirit will reveal to you anything false in your life, okay?
Also pray to break any false gifts.
Pray for discernment.
I pray these prayers. These are always good, and do not hurt. Prayers like these only injure the enemy's works.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
Cool !!!!! :)
rafaelacristina2007 2 years ago
Keep reading ur bible and u'll be fine :) ... notice that there's not a single scripture in there that would suggest that the Holy Spirit is interested in making u drunk. Furthermore, the last fruit of the spirit is self control, which ironically enough seems rather compromised here :(
Amoostoons 2 years ago
who gives you the right to say they offend god! those people are just experiencing joy with the lord, the fact that you may not agree on this gives you no right to say they offend the lord. that is not from god you say that but from the devil. i rebuke anyone that says such things to people loving god like this. i rebuke the devil in jesus name that anyone will think legalistic towards the joy of GOD!
brier7 2 years ago
YOU OFFEND GOD
ula12121 2 years ago
Thus says the LORD: Behold, I will fill all the inhabitants of this land—even the kings who sit on Davids throne, the priests, the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness! And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, says the LORD. I will not pity nor spare nor have mercy, but will destroy them.
Jeremiah 13
RLF777 2 years ago
Its hard for me reading through the comments that are negative because they don't understand. I believe that the devil is raising up confusion and disagreement on this issue because he knows that once we get the JOY of the Lord, We will have the STRENGTH to overpower his kingdom with the slightest efforts.
Jordanallen98 2 years ago
@tspencley3 Where was the chapter and verse for the disciples to look up at pentecost, when fire fell and they started to speak in "new tongues"?
But I geuss you've got God all nice and figured out...boxed up in a cute little package. Enjoy.
hkmp5a4a5 2 years ago
love it love it
SpikesLoverGirl101 2 years ago
Isaiah 43:19
Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.
Proverbs 15:15
All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.
God has done a new thing! Has led people out of the wilderness and given them merry hearts, Perceive it.
godlovest 2 years ago
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bigvandave 2 years ago
Why do so many of you assume these people don't preach and teach and evangelize?
I think it's rather funny, actually, that you'd see a video of people laughing and assume that's all they ever do. You probably watch more TV than they laugh. lol
yrureadingmyusername 2 years ago 5
Can someone show me, with scripture in context, any part of the ministry of the Holy Spirit in which this is described or even hinted at?
What we have here is a group of believers (hopefully) that have been taken from active witnessing and edification and strengthening of the body to being consumed in a self-gratifying experience.
Paul addressed this type of thing asking how such a thing would witness to a non-believer. This is deception, pure and simple.
TruckyNiggets 2 years ago
@TruckyNiggets Acts 2
They were all in one accord, then bam! The Holy Spirit shows up! Crazy things start happening. The onlookers said they looked drunk.
This's the 1st experience of the Holy Spirit in the church. We should still have this.
There r Christians who spend an hour laughing, and there r those who spend an hour watching TV. Which one, after their "self-gratifying experience" gets up and heals the sick, shares the gospel, and brings Jesus to the streets? The proof's in the puddin.
yrureadingmyusername 2 years ago 15
Note in Acts 2 that, even while accused of being drunk, they spoke in languages people understood. The accusation was one of derision, not that they actually appeared to be drunk.
There is nothing about Pentecost that resembles what is happening here. Your statements are just that, unquantified and unqualified statements.
The proof is not just in the puddin', it is also backed up with scripture, rightly divided and in context. Please be so kind as to show me some that justifies this.
TruckyNiggets 2 years ago
The onlookers did not say they "looked drunk". What the onlookers could not understand was how people could be speaking in languages that were not familiar to them. Instead of acknowledging God's work they blamed it on them being drunk. And so from that huge misinterpretation we've decided that God wants to make us drunk in His Spirit. The opposite is actually true.. He says, don't get drunk on wine but let my Spirit fill u. If we do that we should have no desire to be intoxicated.
Amoostoons 2 years ago
We have to remember that the devil attempts to duplicate as much of God's works as he can.
There are false tongues, false prophecy, false healing....
Anything from bethel is suspect to me. I view it very cautiously. While I have heard some good leaders in that church, they are subject to open doors for demons because of their false doctrine that a believer cannot have a demon.
Yet, Jesus cast out many demons from Jews. And, modern exorcists continue to free Christians from demons.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
I too am suspect of some of the stuff coming out of Bethel. But let me assure you a Christian cannot be filled with a demon. Christ and the Devil cannot share the same temple for one second. A Jew is not a Christian necessarily evidenced by the fact that there are Jewish Christians. Christians have the power to cast out demons. so if u were a christian (and u would know if u had one) u would just cast it out yourself, right? That's irrelevant tho because they can't enter in the first place :)
Amoostoons 2 years ago
@KnowJesusKnowPeace Can you let me know what message from Bethel indicated they teach that a believer cannot have a demon. i have been to their schools of healing. They teach that a believer cannot be possessed (because possession is ownership). They do teach that believers can be demonized. One example given is Peter in Matthew 16. Peter speaks and then Jesus says "get behind me Satan.".
RealRunner7 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername well said!
rachelb823 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername thats extremely outta context
SAM135073 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername they were only saying they were drunk because they were speaking gibberish (at least to the unbelievers thats what it sounded like). being drunk in the spirit is no where in scripture. in fact, the word tells us that in the last days we are to be sober minded. and that doesnt mean legalistic or anything. i'm a spirit filled person myself. but this kind of stuff is not in scripture
SAM135073 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername No, crazy things didn't start happening. Amazing things happened. People spoke in other languages, but it was languages others understood because it was their native language. Just throwing references and assuming there is a connection to this is dangerous, at best. There was nothing at Pentecost that resembled this. There is no scriptural basis for this.
Your claims not withstanding, the proof is not in the puddin but in God's word.
TruckyNiggets 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername
Sorry, but there's no hope in justfying wrong. Neither this fire-tunnel or uncontrollable laughing and "holy" drunkenness are Biblical.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, SELF-CONTROL; against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23
Also there's numerous verses that command us to be sober. The Bible doesn't tell us to be drunk, but FILLED with the Spirit.
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xTHExELEVENTHxHOURx 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername
Why does unscriptural stuff happen in churches like this? For example: "gold dust", "gems" and "angel" feathers appearing.
They're nothing but false miracles.
"An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed." Matthew 16:4
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xTHExELEVENTHxHOURx 1 year ago
@yrureadingmyusername
"Which one, after their "self-gratifying experience" gets up and heals the sick, shares the gospel, and brings Jesus to the streets? The proof's in the puddin."
Well, healing the sick isn't a proof you're doing the will of God. I don't know how, but according to the Bible it's possible to do miracles in Jesus' name and still not know Him.
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xTHExELEVENTHxHOURx 1 year ago