Golf explanation of swing plane

[michaeltillcock]

is my swing on plane?



[rw5791]

this is the shaft plane.The swing plane is from the ball to the shoulders.The problem is he is not seeing the arc in 3 dimensions.It's like a coil.The swing plane is a 2D slice of that coil.Now,visualize the clubhead square to that backswing arc,it must never deviate from it.By a combination of weight shift,coiling and wrist hinge the left arm should arrive at the top of the swing in a position flush up against the swing plane.

[jhaley12]

great video but let me ask you something. I've seen Jim Flick, Hank Haney and a host of others say at the top of the backswing if you dropped the club it should hit your right shoulder, yet if you did this here it would miss your shoulder. Freddie Couples shaft at the top looks like it's across his collarbone. I'm coming too far for the inside hitting blocks and hooks, plus the dreaded hosel sometimes. any ideas?

[RoyDMcAvoy]

This video is spot-on! In the downswing Hogan & most every great player gets the golf shaft dead on the original shaft planeformed at address. Almost as many return their trailing arm elbow directly down its lane as well. Great explanation. If you do that the clubhead/butt will either be pointing at the target line or parallel t it at all times. Precisely as in the video. RDM

[touchdown357]

This actually isn't a great example. There are really 2 planes (to keep it simple) in golf--the backswing plane and the downswing plane. The backswing plane is the angle of club at address, and once it leaves that initial line the shaft line should be pointed at the ball (not outside it like the video shows). The down swing plane is the angle of the club at impact. The club should follow that plane angle for the downswing. (under / over = draw; over/under = cut) Source: scratch handicap

[onephenom]

@touchdown357 the ideal ballstriker hits the ball on the original shaft plane. look up wayne defrancesco. idk which videos but i know he's said in a few videos that the best, most consistent ball strikers get the ball back to the same plane at address. 

[DonLduk]

Hello. Great video ! thanks for your explanation. would you review my swing in the last video uploaded? I'd like opinions! thanks

[lennonheads]

He explains very well(as many do) what a one plane swing Looks like. But it gets pretty confusing to alot of golfers how to recreate that one plane action in their own swing. First your posture, you should be bent from the hips aprox 35%. Secondly forget the club, hands and arms..they're all bit players in the one plane swing. Rotate your rt shoulder back approx 90% level to your posture position...and release by unwinding your from your hips and up..Posture/rotation and release.Oneplane keys

[AKL005]

No one ever talks about the hips... Is it a quiet take back, then lead the club at follow through? This is clearly not the only important part to the golf swing. Need info on the hips.

[TomokoMurakami]

Good instruction. Thanks.

[vjwmd]

Without question the best representation I have seen of the shaft plane and the shoulder plane and the convergence back to the shaft plane etc....Well done

[Gyro911]

I found the best way to achieve the one plane swing plane is tilting your head down and making your left shoulder go under the chin while maintaining a straight left arm

[dschultz6072]

@Gyro911 the only way to achieve a one plane swing is have your left (lead for you lefty weirdos) arm be the same angle as your shoulder tilt in the backswing, and your right arm is the same angle in the follow through. in other words, your left arm comes straight across your chest, right in front of your collar bone on the backswing, and the right arm mirrors it on the followthrough. that's all that is required of a one plane swing. turn back, turn through.

[sbadude1]

couldnt your body being in the wrong position cause the club to be on the wrong "plane" and not the club that causes the body to move?

[ninervhfan]

Awesome info !!

[jennaethan]

I dont think it matters as much what the backswing looks like or if it's "on plane" Its really during the impact and followthru that you need to be on plane. Look at Jim Furyk, he's really got a vertical backswing then coming backdown his arms and hands fall down to the "slot" . Only then he in perfect plane to go to impact and followthru.

[taylormadeNo1]

@jennaethan yes....but he's grooved that swing since he was a little kid. There has to be a teaching medium for beginners and teaching them the take away that is "on plane" is really the only correct way.

[pudgelc]

Thank you! I love sending this to my students so that they can understand the plane! AWESOME! Joal Harding

[DASH1ful]

The resulant plane of the swing is created by the arc of the swing. The arc of the right wrist creates the shoulder angle. The right arm levers back to a vertical position, But the left arm cannot swing beyond or below the shoulder angle. They will then be copanar to one another at the top. Swinging up on an imaginery angle only stops the right arm from levering back. The turn will be restricted and the club will be laid off

[acershund]

Xlnt explanation. Gold Stars!

[hotboy326]

If you are having a "over the top issue" just make sure you tuck your right elbow to your right side. you will not come over the top this way.

[BrianT59]

Good explanation; 100% correct in content.

[forzaazzurri34388206]

this explanation sounds bullshit to me

[rw5791]

It's impossible for the shaft to always be parallel.If the clubface is to remain square to the shoulder plane then the shaft will not be parallel until the hands touch the shoulder plane.That yellow line needs to be drawn from the ball to the shoulder.

[wirefree101]

Would greatly appreciate a more detailed explanation regarding the above comment.

[rw5791]

@wirefree101 ,

it's from hogan's book.Imagine the plane is a pane of glass on the target line with a hole in it resting on your shoulders.Since the hands hang naturally from the shoulders the club will not get onto this plane ,ie parallel,until the hands are about waist or chest high,depending on the golfers particular build.

[djreggienoble]

this is haney's parallel plane theory but is not a true definition of PLANE.

A club is on PLANE when the shaft points at the TARGET LINE unless it is parallel to the TARGET LINE.

when the club leaves the initial inclined plane here at the top of the swing, this club is laid off... flat.. and points outside the target line. it is not OFF PLANE

[tebby09]

Thanks for the clear detailed explanation, ones of the best on youtube. Very thoroughly explained. Tells me exactly how to fix my "over the top" problem. From NZ

[ejoe350]

Very clear explanation indeed. The "plane" along the arc (of back and down swing) is actually multiple parallel "planes" in a three dimensional domain. I ask my son to video tape my swing from behind and I realize my swing plane at the top end of back swing is too flat. I steepen the swing plane at the top end - now I can strike the ball much more consistently. Thank you again for the explanation.

[doodlleus]

I'm an amateur golfer and have been having an awful time trying to correct a fade/slice especially with my driver. using this vid i was able to see that i was coming over the top way too much and i have just come back form the range trying a shallower swing plane and i must say i am impressed with the results. my drives immediately straightened (some were hooking though, probaby a bit shallow) and i feel a lot more confident in my game already.

[glenndyson]

If you want to see the best swing plane in golf look at the anthony kim slow video swing.he has the best swing in golf

[Pabanna]

i'm handicap 3 xd

[weiwei6969]

question at 1:22

can it be parallel behind the plane? this needs more hip turn?

or it has to be parallel in front to the plane?

[fontaine32]

He's close but like a lot of teachers, they teach that the backswing plane should be parallel to the shaft plane... In the greatest swings..(ben hogan, sam snead) their backswing planes are identical to the shaft plane throughout the entire swing.. With what he describes here, demands a dropping of the club to get it back on the right plane on the downswing... what causes this is the poor advice given that you should restrict with the lower body. as slammin sam says... stay oily and relaxed..

[ChristopherDowning]

Take a look at the swing analysis of Tiger Wood or VJ Singh and you'll see this video is exactly the same description of what they are doing. Maybe you guys who says this guys is wrong might like to consoder whether Tiger or VJ are wrong - after all they do for a job.

[idatomhue]

The only part that is correct in this video is that the club should stay on the plane board until halfway back(shaft plane). On the way up after that to be on plane the butt of the club should point at the base line which IS NOT as described here.

[ChristopherDowning]

There's a lot of video analysis on YouTube nowadays, so you can see what the pros do - check them out and then see that what's described here is what a lot of leading pros are currently doing.

[zrabbit01]

uhuh.... do try this.... won't work

[mb6918]

This is some of the worst instruction ever - he has no clue how the golf swing plane works.

[ChristopherDowning]

Oh really? Better write to Tiger as this is what he does.

[fontaine32]

How many fairways is he hittin?? better get it straightened out b4 the square grooves are gone.. won't be able to bomb and gouge anymore.. Tiger's swing was much better in 99-01 and now he doesn't know where it's going.. thank god he has a short game..

[ynot1688]

very well explained!

[someguy92172]

most important video on the golf swing

[guitarlix]

Excellent video

[oberscla]

Thank you for making a golf concept very clear to every beginner to intermediate golfer.

[rw5791]

first good video of swing plane i've seen on youtube.Thank you.

[emncaity]

Close, but with many (most?) great players, the plane is slightly flatter on the downswing than on the backswing (cf. Five Lessons, and any number of down-the-line swing films), due to the ground-up unwinding action of the body.

[emncaity]

Also...should have said this (what Jordan says in the video) is a good rule of thumb, though. No question it's a good mental picture to have.

[chadtsai]

Man, a clear, total new understanding of "swing plane" to me.

Thank you.