The most successful, talented people/groups are always the ones that have the most criticisms. It irks me, this little progression starting with a minor triad and then descending down half note by half note has been used so much, no one can claim it. It is a common (and beautiful) tool that has so many variations, you are not stealing anything by using it, and as long as you make it your own, it is still original. Led Zeppelin are the only ones accused of stealing this creepy descending riff.
after googling this shit im pretty shure that jimmy page was influenced/stole this1 !!. because its their bigest hit i feel like they should give some recognition to spirit.
@tjfreak rofl.. not in the music game.. only if its sum next pop tune ur ´´stealing´´ from,,, you just cant take from respectable artists who actually put their heart and soul into that shit, without giving proper recognition.. and even then its not ok if you make shit tunes..
Nope, not EVEN enough similarity for Zep to have ripped it off. However, I might add, it's a beautiful song. Very soothing. But, Imma go jam to some Zep!
The part at about 20 seconds sounds a bit like the beginning of Zeps "In The Light", too. Still, I'd say, not enough to call it a rip-off. There are only so many notes, so many chords. Some things are going to sound sort of similar.
no, Davy Graham is the real inspiration for Stairway to Heaven, Davy is one of big influence from Page , Page in fact learned one tune from him DADGAD...
@tenoderaaridifolia i dont think so,in every piece what we call music is same unifying factor and that is nothin´but music,in the wind,waves,clouds,birds. music is everything,we copy all the time but if you have ability,great ear and inner vision "copying" turn to original.listen "Ataman razin´s dream" from here You Tube first in the list,song is written about 250years ago...
listen" ATAMAN Razin`s Dream" and find some similarities with Hotel California in this case Motel cause its Copy and done 250years earlier than Jethro Tull`s we used to know... do we ??
Hi I listened to ATAMAN Razin`s Dream but only the intro is the same as Hotel California.The vocal melody is different. If I quantify the similarity,it will be;
-Taurus vs Stairway = 10%
-H.Califorina vs We used to know = 80%
-H.Califorina vs ATAMAN Razin`s Dream = 5%
I guess it's how much there are similarity...if there's 10% similarity,
no one will say anything,but if there's 80% similarity,someone will
@tenoderaaridifolia it´s about ear, we can debate or talk about this forever like been done before us.if i hear Ataman i hear also H.Clf. i dont care % Twist and Shout is La Bamba,Van Halen´s Panama is Pearl Necklace.Hells Bells is Layla,Verve´s Bittersweet is Last time,happy xmas is full copy from early 60´s song, teen spirit is from loiue loiue-more than feeling.Iggy´s Home is She so cold.but genious steal with style,change lyrics or diff arrange but ungifted just borrow..
@mebloke69 Ok it's free what you think,but if you go you court claiming Taurus is Stairway,you will lose 100%.If you claim Ice Ice Baby is Under Pressure,you will win 100%. So it's percentage of similarity that counts. For example,in a novel,if you use a word "red elephant" from another noval,that's OK.But if you copy whole 1/3 of the other novel,you'll be sued.I don't care how you feel,but that's the common sense. If it's just a word,it may be accident,but if it's 1/3,it's cleary on purpose.
@tenoderaaridifolia i cant compare novel and music.if you use pencil but "write" a story what is already written on the paper nobody defense you cause copy is unquestionable.but if you use an instrument you use same chords,arrange.some judge make controversial decision like what had happen in Ice Ice Baby vs Under Pressure cause many other more obvious cases are forgotten.in music similarity and copy is in the hand of volatile and biased judgement.Mockingbird know it
i think JIMMY PAGE as ever was just trying to help RANDY CALIFORNIA to become sucessfull its not a rip off but definatelly STARWAY TO HEAVEN came from TAURUS
Jimmy Page took INSPIRATION to de intro from "Cry Me a River", a song composed by Davey Graham. So the fucking Tauros steal this from Davey Graham, suckers?!
The chord progression that is used in both songs is very common. The same progression can be seen in King Crimson's "Moonchild". I'm not arguing for either side, but to claim that it is plagerism is quite a stretch.
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this song does have a similar three note descending pattern to stairway to heaven, but not nearly similar enough to warrant accusations of theft... and really this song sucks compared to stairway to heaven, if led zeppelin stole the progression then it's really more fair to say they made it into something
@NiKraYzie No, Led Zeppelin stole a lot of other people's material. Boogie With Stu cost 'em a fair bit of brass too. They were notorious for claiming authorship to other people's work. Don't be a fan boy.
Zeppelin Schmeppelin, any guitar player can tell you that descending guitar riff has been used a thousand times: take a look at The Beatles' "Michelle" for instance.
saying influence stairway to heaven is one thing and saying they stole stairway to heaven is another thing, you however have no freakin idea if that is the case or not so stickitupyourbutt
Saying led zeppelin is better is completely silly. It has nothing to do with better or worse. It has to do with right and wrong. This is just one example of many songs that Page ripped off and never gave credit for. And that boys and girls is just plain dishonest and wrong. It is disrespectful to fellow musicians and I for one have lost some respect for led zeppelin.
You might as well say Chromatic progressions are now completely off limits just cuz this song exists. It's ridiculous, the intro was inspired by a part of this song, but the rest is original.
i can't believe it... after spending half my life believing that led zep got help from his "friends down under" to write stairway... what an eye opener...
After giving a listen, if you are comparing the two songs and not just the similar intro, they are nothing alike... by a long shot. Even if Page had written "Stairway" after "Taurus", the most you could accuse him of was being inspired by it.
I believe that Jimmy took the inspiration from this song. But i dont think he ripped it off. The evidence for that he was influenced by this is right there. Spirit used to be the opening act for Zeppelin and Zeppelin also covered Spirit`s Fresh Garbage. That means Page had heard them do this song many times.
No, no, no. It is definitely different. There is no top melody line. Also that section right after the main riff was stolen basically note for note from Bach. Hooray, everyone steals from each other!
Oh wait...every person with common sense and some guitar technique can tell you that this is the same STYLE of celtic songs...but the song itself has nothing to do with Stairway, sorry for all the LZ haters...
This riff is shorter and more basic, even i did a riff very simmilar when i started playing. The creativity of Stairway's riff is quite higher
@guineapiggyman Zeppelin coverd and "re masterd" a couple songs. And well it sounds close enough for them to lose a law suit for these guys never getting credit for it.
@b52goats no way. its not that close. listen to most music carefully. all music in, say, the key of c, uses the chord structure c, f, g. here are literally millions of songs with those exact chords, and im sure a ton of them sound the same. means nothing,
@guineapiggyman Okay... well 10 of their songs were covers that they claimed to be theirs, and they opened for Spirit before they got "famous" no point in arguing with you if your going to be that ignorant about it, but thankfully the record company gave the rest of the artists their credit for the songs they originally wrote. It's not like Im saying zeppelin is a bad band or anything, cause they do kick ass.
@b52goats my last comment: why would they cover 10 other songs, and give the bands credit, but not this one? and who cares that they opened for this band. (are you hearing this song? doesnt really sound anything like theirs) not to mention, that theres evidence zepp wrote their song first. but, thats like saying that if i listened to mozart at one point in my life, then anything i write in the key of c# is plagiarized from him, if it follows a similar pattern.
@TheNiko005--Nobody hates Zep. They just aren't original that's all. Zep toured with these guys and shortly after, wallah!! Stairway. It's just the same chord structure. Zep did a better job with it, no doubt. Pink Floyd were originals. They weren't rehashing anything. Zep was a recycle band. But they did it better than anyone. I used to think Jimmy Page was the shit until I learned how to play all the Zep tunes and now I'm not so amused anymore.
@tardwhisperer I would like to see you play improvisations like he did haha, you would be famous. He re-INVENTED the guitar playing style-along with Hendrix, Van Halen, Clapton, etc etc-. You can cover the songs in your little world(I can do it too, btw), but not make history.
@TheNiko005--Are you kidding me? Improvisations are my specialty. "I would be famous"? Why would I want to be famous? I don't cover the songs and I don't care. The fact of the matter is that music and entertainment in general is propaganda designed specifically for the purpose of keeping people like you complacent and unaware that you are a lamb on your way to the slaughter. Ouch. Truth is a bitter pill, but children haven't lived long enough to know how to swallow it.
@TheNiko005--Clapton is overrated and I've never heard anything from him that raises and eyebrow. Hendrix was and always will be the ultimate guitarist. David Gilmour is in a league of his own. Pagey is wonderful. He's my personal favorite, but it his fame has more to do with feeding people what they want on a philosophical level. I can't believe you would think that improvisational prowess is limited to 'famous people'. Hilarious. Jazz musicians are the best with this. Rock's overcooked.
@TheNiko005--Yes. Of course he is. His stuff with Cream was okay, but when he got involved with the Okies it was all downhill from there and before you dispute that, you ought to know that Jimmy Page himself made that assessment, not I. Now I must leave this place though. I can't keep fryin' perch when I've got sharks to skin. Thanks though. Have fun with the guitar thing.
@TheNiko005--Son. Guitar is a toy. I've mastered it and now it's no good to me. Time to move on to bigger, better things. Why are you easily led? You yourself could achieve everything your heroes have and I don't really think you believe that. I'm sure you're great at what you do. I didn't mean to offend you. Please forgive me. Life's too short to be anything other than supportive and kind to one another.
@tardwhisperer No, I don't believe in heroes, I believe in facts. And noone NOONE can say "I've mastered the guitar, so I'll achieve next step". Who do you think you are man? Dont be so arrogant. Peace
@TheNiko005--My opinion (and it matters about as much as yours) is that if you find the instrument to be a mystical thing, you are not entitled to touch it. If you think it is difficult to play the guitar, perhaps you're in the wrong 'hobby'. I can't help it that I instinctively understand the guitar. I'm one with it. It's not something to brag about. It's really a waste of my time because nobody cares. Page made history because he made so much money. That's it. Money and attention. Please!
@tardwhisperer It's not about money, neither the media. And playin it's a job for many people, son, it's not just a "hobbie". You'll learn that soon. And to apriciate music and analyze it, too (which is NOT overrating it). And please, be a humble kid! Sorry 4 my bad English
@TheNiko005--I'm not a kid. I've been there and back again a few times. It is a hobby for those who don't get paid to do it and it's still not a job for those who do get paid for it. Like Beethoven said, "The minute you've started to analyze music is when you've lost what it's all about." It's about emotional expression. That's it. Trust me, this hurts me more than anyone else, but rock and roll is finally overcooked. It's cliche' now and that means it's old hat.
@tardwhisperer You really make me laugh. Beethoven never said that. BTW, Stop contradicting yourself. You say Clapton and Page are overrated, but you think that Hendrix (probably the most overrated guitarist ever) is the "ultimate player". Isn't that weird? But it's not about the difficulty, you know. According to your limited opinion, The Beatles are not "historically important" because we all can do Harrison's solos. Rock isn't like that.
@tardwhisperer It's about who makes the music first. It's about creativity, something that - assuming that you're not a kid- you have failed at. What have YOU done to say: "Look, this player is good, this one isn't".
Page once said "Critics are failed musicians". I see he was right.
I challenge you to cover Van Halens (a "commercial unimportant player" in your opinion surely) new song: Tattoo. Do it, don't be coward. Upload the vid.
@TheNiko005--Now you've shown yourself up. I'm embarrassed for you. If it's about who played the music first then you ought to see Jimmy Page as the plagiarist he is. 90%, and I'm being generous here, of what Zeppelin played were complete ripoffs. Good ones no doubt because their equipment was better. Yes, Beethoven most certainly said that. Van Halen is garbage, yes. Any other questions?
@tardwhisperer So you don't only make up facts (that about Beethoven is false, admit it), but you think that Page didn't invent LZ rifs?? Look, the only riff that was a rip off is the one from Moby Dick, which is, BTW, an introduction to an amazing drums solo...ooops and there are 2 more ERLIER versions of that songs with different intros so very important people and critics such as you don't complain about it. Don't know why Page didn't realase the on albums, they're better in my opinion.
@TheNiko005--Yes, Beethoven said it. I'm sorry you think you're more astute than I am. Typical behaviour of an average intelligence. There are videos on youtube that correlate all of the songs Zeppelin did with the actual authors and their versions and it pretty much makes up the entire Zeppelin repetoire. In My Time Of Dying is a Bob Dylan tune. I didn't even know that one til recently, but you ought to get the point. I do agree what Page said about critics being failed musicians. I'm no critic
@tardwhisperer Typical behaviour of an average intelligence. You dont justify your false facts. I see you started to insult, which is a "typical behaviour" of someone who's loosing. I'll show you a REAL Beethoven quote (not a complete fail as the one from Bob Dylan, who in fact, didn't invent that song, oops): "Anyone who tells a lie has not a pure heart", apply that to your life and don't troll on rock discussions. If RnR isnt 4 you, then leave it. Don't fight against it.
@tardwhisperer Actually I think you will find that In My Time Of Dying was by Blind Willie Johnson..get your facts straight, it deteriorates any strength in an argument especially if u say a song is by someone who it isn't in a plagiarism debate.
@tardwhisperer If he didn't invent it,who did?Because all the other so-called ripoffs (like this one above) don't really convince me you know...The fact that LZ "recycle"-as you say- some songs (which in fact is re-inventing an old boring uncomplex song)is what gives the band the success it had, and always have.First, I was like you,i thought they were "overrated", then I just accepted that,after all, they were the parents of HARD ROCK, and that's it.Search it anywhere.Still Waiting 4your vid
Stairway to Heaven is inspired by this song but not completly, there is also the song that is called Nothing At All - Gentle Giant that came out one or two years before stairway to heaven.
@aer0smith1 Listen... Only the first four chords are the same. Try to sing the melody of the top guitar part on stairway... and you'll find the taurus one completely lacking. This is a practice that's been out there for ages in jazz and classical etc.
@aer0smith1 That's because it also has a chromatic bass line in Am. This song sounds similar but only the descending chromatic bass line. The rest of it is different. Sure it's inspired by it, probably subconciously but it's hardly a total ripoff. It has the same feel and it has the same bass line. Big whoop! It's a chromatic run. Nobody owns a chromatic run down from the root. Give me a break.
It's hard to be original. (I know; I'm a songwriter.) The descending bass line could be from a number of tunes. Don't think Jimmy Page guilty of worse than being inspired by it. I think the soprano voice in Page's intro going up as the bass goes down gives it enough originality.
give me a break, the chord progressions in the song are almost completely nonidentical to zeppelin's version, this is solely influence and it's obvious.
chromaticism is a main feature of classical music through popular folk songs from the nineteenth and twentieth century, as well as blues.
the strong resemblance of the opening three bars of the tune are definitely what inspired page, but his composition after that point is his own (going to the a minor and beyond). not to mention he voiced the chords more intricately. thom york (radiohead) his ripped off REM countless times, and admits it. that's what musicians do.
Sure Zep stole the opening to Stairway to Heaven from this song but the whole song Stairway to Heaven is a thousand times better than this failed Spirit tune. Don't get me wrong Spirit is a great band with many good tunes but this isn't one of them.
On one can claim a note progression. It's not stealing from anybody. Listen to Cream White Room and Tales of Brave Ulysses. Then listen to the chorus on Black Sabbath's Looking for Today. Then listen to the intro on Paul Stanley's Take me Away Together as One. I could go on and on. It's the same riff! Not the end of the world! Next someone will claim the II, V, I. Or the I, IV, V blues progression. Sillyness.
Very original and unique music , I love how every fan of Led zeppelin is crying over the fact Page stole the little chord progression in the beginning and they can't seem to handle that. Oh well have fun listening to their originals like "Whole lotta Love" and "Dazed and Confused" ..... oh wait.......
@Murreh Oh sorry I didn't know it was an official fact that they are the greatest band off all time and that ALL MUSICIANS recognize that. Just because you have a lot of fans doesn't mean you are the best ever. Jonas brothers have a lot of fans too do you think there amazing also? Also I'm a musician and i don't recognize them as the greatest band of all time, so you're wrong.
Im just stating MY opinion sorry I'm making the pussy Led Zeppelin fans cry over what I'm writing
@Murreh I don't give a shit, I'm not arguing over fucking fans I'm just saying why Led Zeppelin got as big as they where and why people call them the "greatest". They where in the right place at the right time. There are bands that equal Led Zeppelin in musicianship and there are bands that surpass them. Spirit surpassed them musically and creatively. REAL MUSICIANS recognize that Zeppelin is overrated and they know that there are better rock bands out there. Like Spirit.
Haha, "stole" there are similarities, but who cares, Led Zeppelin is THE BEST as these guys are not, I actually think it was a tribute if anything...."stole"...yea...
first of all this song is older but its not exactly like stairway...just a few notes...its hardly a ripoff....and led zeppelin rules..spirit does not...its just a fact of life
They begin seemed or equal it is all the same, the only thing that one is that led did the best song of all the times hendrix I adapt all alone the watchtower of dylan and the own author said that after listening to jimmy it would not touch it you eat I believe that spirit should have made equal when someone takes something your and makes it better alone you must thank him " THANK OR LED ZEPPELIN "
empiezan parecidos o igual da igual, lo unico que se es que led hizo la mejor cancion de todos los tiempos hendrix versiono all alone the watchtower de dylan y el propio autor dijo que despues de oirle a jimmy no volveria a tocarla creo que spirit debio hacer igual cuando alguien coge algo tuyo y lo hace mejor solo debes darle las gracias "THANK U LED ZEPPELIN"
Led Zeppelin took the chord, modified it (slighty, to lengthen it ect;) and built onto it,...I like both versions, but If it's true that Zep has denied other artists the right to have credit multiple times thats pretty unfair, IMO you can rip a song to shreds as long as you give credit where it's due...
one phrase from stairway sounds like one from here but just the descending melody, stairway doesn't copy it completely. Rage Against the Machine's Wake Up sound a lot like Kashmir by Zeppelin but it's not ripping it off. It's taking it as an influence. Same thing here
...Well, the similarities are quite clear. I'd hesitate to say it was so similar as to be totally unique, however. If any of Led Zeppelin's members listened to Spirit, then yeah, it was almost certainly plagiarized. But I could see someone else coming up with the guitar work on their own.
LedZep WERE plagiarizing assholes, though. No denyin' that.
hey why are u guys saying this guys sucks? he was good enough for page to be INSPIRED by to write one of zeppelins most popular songs lol next time think people!
@MrLedStoner "they obviously stole it because they arpegiated a chord and did a chromatic descending bassline, its not like everyone does that" (obviously sarcastic)
@ledzelda9 lol dude i was about to go ape shit on you but then i seed the sarcastic part lol im not to huge on guitar but i know to much about bass and when u said a chromatic descending bassline i'm like WTF??? THATS WHAT EVERYONE DOES DUDE?? lol
but hey we can agree that led zeppelin kicks fucking ass!
@MrLedStoner lol, i re-read that and im like, hmm...if someone sent this to me id think theyre trolling, what i meant by the bassline isnt literally everyone but its more popular than people think, eg: "while my guitar gently wheeps" i know of other but i cant think of them specifically right now, the point is u get what i meant
@rrtodd95 jesus christ theres just no winning with you so is it not okay to be inspired by a song and write one that sounds somewhat similar like it? answer that question please answer it
@MrLedStoner There's nothing wrong with sounding similar but when the bulk of your work is a direct rip off of another artists work and you give no credit to them you are a hack.
If they listed on Stairway to Heaven, Words and Music by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant based on a variation of the Song Taurus by Spirit that would have been fine.
But the ripped of countless songs and listed themselves as the authors. Dazed and Confused is a prime example.
@rrtodd95 okay but look at old blues thats all it is a rip off of another rip off now if you want to believe that led zeppelin was a bunch of rip offs fine go ahead but i dont see anything wrong with keeping blues alive? now maybe they needed to give credit but they still changed there songs enough to make them their own lets just say you actually had a valid argument and led zeppelin ripped off every one of there songs people still liked them they were still popular so they did something right
@MrLedStoner But they actually credited the original or in the credits listed it as written by based on traditional arrangement.
They didn't claim sole authorship like Led Zeppelin did.
They claimed Babe I'm Gonna Leave You they wrote. Yet Anne Bredon wrote it in the late 50's. Joan Baez recorded it 1960 yet somehow Led Zeppelin claimed they wrote it in 1969?
It's not even a variation. It's the exact same song.
@rrtodd95 Mr LedStoner, I completely agree. Its not like doing a blues variation. They lifted whole songs. I love LedZep, but that cant' be denied...like the Lemon Song that is what most people refer to, a blues lift, but...Dazed and Confused, Babe I'm gonna leave you, you can't claim to have written that.
Dude there is no a stole... it's like Stairway to Heaven but this no a copy, it's just like the song "Show No Mercy" - Slayer compared with "Metal Militia"- Metallica... it's no a copy the only thing is that they have same styles
I'm hearing Save all your Love - White lion - :59
tjfreak 12 hours ago
The most successful, talented people/groups are always the ones that have the most criticisms. It irks me, this little progression starting with a minor triad and then descending down half note by half note has been used so much, no one can claim it. It is a common (and beautiful) tool that has so many variations, you are not stealing anything by using it, and as long as you make it your own, it is still original. Led Zeppelin are the only ones accused of stealing this creepy descending riff.
ohyeahohwoahno 16 hours ago
after googling this shit im pretty shure that jimmy page was influenced/stole this1 !!. because its their bigest hit i feel like they should give some recognition to spirit.
BongLocz 1 day ago
@BongLocz What world do you live in ? even if true, the game is steel & never look back.
tjfreak 12 hours ago
@tjfreak rofl.. not in the music game.. only if its sum next pop tune ur ´´stealing´´ from,,, you just cant take from respectable artists who actually put their heart and soul into that shit, without giving proper recognition.. and even then its not ok if you make shit tunes..
BongLocz 6 hours ago
Nope, not EVEN enough similarity for Zep to have ripped it off. However, I might add, it's a beautiful song. Very soothing. But, Imma go jam to some Zep!
MsBatbird 4 days ago
The part at about 20 seconds sounds a bit like the beginning of Zeps "In The Light", too. Still, I'd say, not enough to call it a rip-off. There are only so many notes, so many chords. Some things are going to sound sort of similar.
avimmmbb 4 days ago
nice song
utkt91 6 days ago
wow i would never had guessed sounds just like stairway to rip off !!!!
Arriscraft 1 week ago
led zep jimmy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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no, Davy Graham is the real inspiration for Stairway to Heaven, Davy is one of big influence from Page , Page in fact learned one tune from him DADGAD...
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BELEMGER 1 week ago
Ha ha "Stairway" is not a copy at all.
Just a part of the phrase is the same.
If you call that a copy,most songs will become a copy of the other.
Copy is something like Eagles "Hotel California" which they copied
from Jethro Tull "We used to know",which is exactly the same except
for the chorus part.
tenoderaaridifolia 1 week ago
@tenoderaaridifolia i dont think so,in every piece what we call music is same unifying factor and that is nothin´but music,in the wind,waves,clouds,birds. music is everything,we copy all the time but if you have ability,great ear and inner vision "copying" turn to original.listen "Ataman razin´s dream" from here You Tube first in the list,song is written about 250years ago...
mebloke69 1 week ago
@mebloke69 So you're sayin China copying U.S. CD is OK......
That's fine bro,if that's what you think.
tenoderaaridifolia 1 week ago
@tenoderaaridifolia something like that...
listen" ATAMAN Razin`s Dream" and find some similarities with Hotel California in this case Motel cause its Copy and done 250years earlier than Jethro Tull`s we used to know... do we ??
mebloke69 1 week ago
@mebloke69
Hi I listened to ATAMAN Razin`s Dream but only the intro is the same as Hotel California.The vocal melody is different. If I quantify the similarity,it will be;
-Taurus vs Stairway = 10%
-H.Califorina vs We used to know = 80%
-H.Califorina vs ATAMAN Razin`s Dream = 5%
I guess it's how much there are similarity...if there's 10% similarity,
no one will say anything,but if there's 80% similarity,someone will
sue you!
tenoderaaridifolia 1 week ago
@tenoderaaridifolia it´s about ear, we can debate or talk about this forever like been done before us.if i hear Ataman i hear also H.Clf. i dont care % Twist and Shout is La Bamba,Van Halen´s Panama is Pearl Necklace.Hells Bells is Layla,Verve´s Bittersweet is Last time,happy xmas is full copy from early 60´s song, teen spirit is from loiue loiue-more than feeling.Iggy´s Home is She so cold.but genious steal with style,change lyrics or diff arrange but ungifted just borrow..
mebloke69 1 week ago
@mebloke69 my problem is i just hear same song in every F**kin´song
mebloke69 1 week ago
@mebloke69 Ok it's free what you think,but if you go you court claiming Taurus is Stairway,you will lose 100%.If you claim Ice Ice Baby is Under Pressure,you will win 100%. So it's percentage of similarity that counts. For example,in a novel,if you use a word "red elephant" from another noval,that's OK.But if you copy whole 1/3 of the other novel,you'll be sued.I don't care how you feel,but that's the common sense. If it's just a word,it may be accident,but if it's 1/3,it's cleary on purpose.
tenoderaaridifolia 1 week ago
@tenoderaaridifolia i cant compare novel and music.if you use pencil but "write" a story what is already written on the paper nobody defense you cause copy is unquestionable.but if you use an instrument you use same chords,arrange.some judge make controversial decision like what had happen in Ice Ice Baby vs Under Pressure cause many other more obvious cases are forgotten.in music similarity and copy is in the hand of volatile and biased judgement.Mockingbird know it
mebloke69 1 week ago
Holy shit
A decendinig a a minor - call the lawers
Slammo 1 week ago
i dont think STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN can get better then TAURUS but anyway its easier to make something getting better than just making it at once
rochebraziliano 1 week ago
i think JIMMY PAGE as ever was just trying to help RANDY CALIFORNIA to become sucessfull its not a rip off but definatelly STARWAY TO HEAVEN came from TAURUS
rochebraziliano 1 week ago
Jimmy Page took INSPIRATION to de intro from "Cry Me a River", a song composed by Davey Graham. So the fucking Tauros steal this from Davey Graham, suckers?!
andredof 2 weeks ago 2
its nothing like stairway
Rockandroller93 2 weeks ago
i think it says a lot of led zeppelin to turn this into stairway. theres a difference between inspiration and robbery.
mrmonkeywrenchify 2 weeks ago
The chord progression that is used in both songs is very common. The same progression can be seen in King Crimson's "Moonchild". I'm not arguing for either side, but to claim that it is plagerism is quite a stretch.
hammerpooper 2 weeks ago
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julio13013 2 weeks ago
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julio13013 2 weeks ago
sorry but... this is not plagiarism. The inspiration can be from this song, but a copy?
joaovitorcb 2 weeks ago 2
this song does have a similar three note descending pattern to stairway to heaven, but not nearly similar enough to warrant accusations of theft... and really this song sucks compared to stairway to heaven, if led zeppelin stole the progression then it's really more fair to say they made it into something
333psychonaut 2 weeks ago
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186kms 3 weeks ago
led zeppelin covered fresh garbage and also GEORGE HARRISONS "SOMETHING " had something to do with Stairway...
MichaelHansenFUN 3 weeks ago
Look at than album cover, man... my dad saw them back in the 60s at a small bar in Arkansas called the kinetic playgorund...
trunkatedpig 3 weeks ago
I've been playing this tune since i was a young kid and i must accept that it sounds as stairway to heaven
mariovicencio1965 3 weeks ago
@mariovicencio1965 agreed
symptomy 3 weeks ago
It's sounds as both the rain song and atirway to heaven
mariovicencio1965 3 weeks ago
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mariovicencio1965 3 weeks ago
That would be fine, except Johnny River's 'Summer Rain' came out several years before...with the exact same opening.
MrTomCallanan 3 weeks ago
LZ got inspired doesn't mean they stole anything... As the scientists says: "Nothing gets lost, nothing gets created, everything gets transformed".
NiKraYzie 4 weeks ago
@NiKraYzie No, Led Zeppelin stole a lot of other people's material. Boogie With Stu cost 'em a fair bit of brass too. They were notorious for claiming authorship to other people's work. Don't be a fan boy.
talkingwall 3 weeks ago
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isidro7667 4 weeks ago
Zeppelin Schmeppelin, any guitar player can tell you that descending guitar riff has been used a thousand times: take a look at The Beatles' "Michelle" for instance.
kidtexaus1 4 weeks ago
0.27 reminds me of Once Upon A Time In The West
Early2342 1 month ago
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TheNiko005 1 month ago
Listen to this with headphones on and close your eyes.
Awesome song.
sigmus90 1 month ago
saying influence stairway to heaven is one thing and saying they stole stairway to heaven is another thing, you however have no freakin idea if that is the case or not so stickitupyourbutt
hr1sv1621 1 month ago
I can't believe some people deny that this didn't influence stairway to heaven at all, pretty laughable. Zeppelin opened for these guys in 1969
paintedship 1 month ago
Who the fuck is led zeppelin :P
...jk
Superthatdudeguy 1 month ago
Good artists borrow... great artists steal
chushinryoku 1 month ago
its pretty close
LedZeppZoSo 1 month ago
Anyone else think the album cover looks a bit like Kings of Leon's Only By The Night?
Gazarama7279 1 month ago
jimmy plagiarist version is so much better.
LukeResende 1 month ago
could also be the intro to Summer Rain by Johnny Rivers...gimme a break. It's a traditional rock intro!
baggins49 1 month ago
HA! Love Page! He can take an idea and run with it better than the original!
E139486 1 month ago
Ah well, Zeppelin's best stuff is so creative you can't tell where the hell it "came" from.
Tengent 1 month ago
Page plagiarist
ExprezoNova 1 month ago
Saying led zeppelin is better is completely silly. It has nothing to do with better or worse. It has to do with right and wrong. This is just one example of many songs that Page ripped off and never gave credit for. And that boys and girls is just plain dishonest and wrong. It is disrespectful to fellow musicians and I for one have lost some respect for led zeppelin.
vicjay1972 1 month ago
@vicjay1972--It's like McCartney said. "All music already existed. Musicians just channel it. they reach out there and grab pieces of it."
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer I think you may have missed the point of my comment. Oh well.
vicjay1972 1 month ago
@eleventhsun no. You're dumb. Led Zeppelin opened for these guys back in the day. Not the other way around
brawhit1989 1 month ago 16
They didn't steal it, they elaborated on it. These dudes opened for Zeppelin back in the day.
eleventhsun 1 month ago
You might as well say Chromatic progressions are now completely off limits just cuz this song exists. It's ridiculous, the intro was inspired by a part of this song, but the rest is original.
IsolationInstigation 1 month ago
Ya they're definitely similar, but not close enough that it should be called a rip off
ywed14 1 month ago
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MLGxSLasH 1 month ago
i can't believe it... after spending half my life believing that led zep got help from his "friends down under" to write stairway... what an eye opener...
jaxxonad619 1 month ago
sounds more like the pretender by the foo fighters :P
jelledegitaarman 1 month ago
Who cares if they sound similar everybody know Zeppelin's way fucking better than Taurus so quit saying Zeppelin ripped them off
xpartydude69x 1 month ago
@xpartydude69x
Being better, and ripping off are two different things. You can be better, and still rip people's riff off. Duh.
Zell1995 1 month ago
After giving a listen, if you are comparing the two songs and not just the similar intro, they are nothing alike... by a long shot. Even if Page had written "Stairway" after "Taurus", the most you could accuse him of was being inspired by it.
crinkledabink 1 month ago
so so So BEAUTIFUL
Juviex 2 months ago
led zeppelin>>all
ntenhonome3 2 months ago
I believe that Jimmy took the inspiration from this song. But i dont think he ripped it off. The evidence for that he was influenced by this is right there. Spirit used to be the opening act for Zeppelin and Zeppelin also covered Spirit`s Fresh Garbage. That means Page had heard them do this song many times.
RockNRollOverDose 2 months ago
No, no, no. It is definitely different. There is no top melody line. Also that section right after the main riff was stolen basically note for note from Bach. Hooray, everyone steals from each other!
TheLorfhoose 2 months ago
Oh wait...every person with common sense and some guitar technique can tell you that this is the same STYLE of celtic songs...but the song itself has nothing to do with Stairway, sorry for all the LZ haters...
This riff is shorter and more basic, even i did a riff very simmilar when i started playing. The creativity of Stairway's riff is quite higher
TheNiko005 2 months ago 37
@TheNiko005 it sounds nothing like stairway. what are poeple talking about/?? yeah, theres similar chords, but with different changes and intervals
guineapiggyman 2 months ago
@guineapiggyman Zeppelin coverd and "re masterd" a couple songs. And well it sounds close enough for them to lose a law suit for these guys never getting credit for it.
b52goats 2 months ago
@b52goats no way. its not that close. listen to most music carefully. all music in, say, the key of c, uses the chord structure c, f, g. here are literally millions of songs with those exact chords, and im sure a ton of them sound the same. means nothing,
guineapiggyman 2 months ago
@guineapiggyman Okay... well 10 of their songs were covers that they claimed to be theirs, and they opened for Spirit before they got "famous" no point in arguing with you if your going to be that ignorant about it, but thankfully the record company gave the rest of the artists their credit for the songs they originally wrote. It's not like Im saying zeppelin is a bad band or anything, cause they do kick ass.
b52goats 2 months ago
@b52goats my last comment: why would they cover 10 other songs, and give the bands credit, but not this one? and who cares that they opened for this band. (are you hearing this song? doesnt really sound anything like theirs) not to mention, that theres evidence zepp wrote their song first. but, thats like saying that if i listened to mozart at one point in my life, then anything i write in the key of c# is plagiarized from him, if it follows a similar pattern.
guineapiggyman 2 months ago
@TheNiko005--Nobody hates Zep. They just aren't original that's all. Zep toured with these guys and shortly after, wallah!! Stairway. It's just the same chord structure. Zep did a better job with it, no doubt. Pink Floyd were originals. They weren't rehashing anything. Zep was a recycle band. But they did it better than anyone. I used to think Jimmy Page was the shit until I learned how to play all the Zep tunes and now I'm not so amused anymore.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer I would like to see you play improvisations like he did haha, you would be famous. He re-INVENTED the guitar playing style-along with Hendrix, Van Halen, Clapton, etc etc-. You can cover the songs in your little world(I can do it too, btw), but not make history.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Are you kidding me? Improvisations are my specialty. "I would be famous"? Why would I want to be famous? I don't cover the songs and I don't care. The fact of the matter is that music and entertainment in general is propaganda designed specifically for the purpose of keeping people like you complacent and unaware that you are a lamb on your way to the slaughter. Ouch. Truth is a bitter pill, but children haven't lived long enough to know how to swallow it.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Clapton is overrated and I've never heard anything from him that raises and eyebrow. Hendrix was and always will be the ultimate guitarist. David Gilmour is in a league of his own. Pagey is wonderful. He's my personal favorite, but it his fame has more to do with feeding people what they want on a philosophical level. I can't believe you would think that improvisational prowess is limited to 'famous people'. Hilarious. Jazz musicians are the best with this. Rock's overcooked.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer HAHA Clapton is overrated?????
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Yes. Of course he is. His stuff with Cream was okay, but when he got involved with the Okies it was all downhill from there and before you dispute that, you ought to know that Jimmy Page himself made that assessment, not I. Now I must leave this place though. I can't keep fryin' perch when I've got sharks to skin. Thanks though. Have fun with the guitar thing.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer Yes youre right, they are all overrated. The only very best guitarist is you, troller.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Son. Guitar is a toy. I've mastered it and now it's no good to me. Time to move on to bigger, better things. Why are you easily led? You yourself could achieve everything your heroes have and I don't really think you believe that. I'm sure you're great at what you do. I didn't mean to offend you. Please forgive me. Life's too short to be anything other than supportive and kind to one another.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer No, I don't believe in heroes, I believe in facts. And noone NOONE can say "I've mastered the guitar, so I'll achieve next step". Who do you think you are man? Dont be so arrogant. Peace
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--My opinion (and it matters about as much as yours) is that if you find the instrument to be a mystical thing, you are not entitled to touch it. If you think it is difficult to play the guitar, perhaps you're in the wrong 'hobby'. I can't help it that I instinctively understand the guitar. I'm one with it. It's not something to brag about. It's really a waste of my time because nobody cares. Page made history because he made so much money. That's it. Money and attention. Please!
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer Nope, you lost the point. Forget it.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer It's not about money, neither the media. And playin it's a job for many people, son, it's not just a "hobbie". You'll learn that soon. And to apriciate music and analyze it, too (which is NOT overrating it). And please, be a humble kid! Sorry 4 my bad English
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--I'm not a kid. I've been there and back again a few times. It is a hobby for those who don't get paid to do it and it's still not a job for those who do get paid for it. Like Beethoven said, "The minute you've started to analyze music is when you've lost what it's all about." It's about emotional expression. That's it. Trust me, this hurts me more than anyone else, but rock and roll is finally overcooked. It's cliche' now and that means it's old hat.
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer You really make me laugh. Beethoven never said that. BTW, Stop contradicting yourself. You say Clapton and Page are overrated, but you think that Hendrix (probably the most overrated guitarist ever) is the "ultimate player". Isn't that weird? But it's not about the difficulty, you know. According to your limited opinion, The Beatles are not "historically important" because we all can do Harrison's solos. Rock isn't like that.
What's a good player to you? Just yoursel
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer It's about who makes the music first. It's about creativity, something that - assuming that you're not a kid- you have failed at. What have YOU done to say: "Look, this player is good, this one isn't".
Page once said "Critics are failed musicians". I see he was right.
I challenge you to cover Van Halens (a "commercial unimportant player" in your opinion surely) new song: Tattoo. Do it, don't be coward. Upload the vid.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Now you've shown yourself up. I'm embarrassed for you. If it's about who played the music first then you ought to see Jimmy Page as the plagiarist he is. 90%, and I'm being generous here, of what Zeppelin played were complete ripoffs. Good ones no doubt because their equipment was better. Yes, Beethoven most certainly said that. Van Halen is garbage, yes. Any other questions?
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer So you don't only make up facts (that about Beethoven is false, admit it), but you think that Page didn't invent LZ rifs?? Look, the only riff that was a rip off is the one from Moby Dick, which is, BTW, an introduction to an amazing drums solo...ooops and there are 2 more ERLIER versions of that songs with different intros so very important people and critics such as you don't complain about it. Don't know why Page didn't realase the on albums, they're better in my opinion.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
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TheNiko005 1 month ago
@TheNiko005--Yes, Beethoven said it. I'm sorry you think you're more astute than I am. Typical behaviour of an average intelligence. There are videos on youtube that correlate all of the songs Zeppelin did with the actual authors and their versions and it pretty much makes up the entire Zeppelin repetoire. In My Time Of Dying is a Bob Dylan tune. I didn't even know that one til recently, but you ought to get the point. I do agree what Page said about critics being failed musicians. I'm no critic
tardwhisperer 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer Typical behaviour of an average intelligence. You dont justify your false facts. I see you started to insult, which is a "typical behaviour" of someone who's loosing. I'll show you a REAL Beethoven quote (not a complete fail as the one from Bob Dylan, who in fact, didn't invent that song, oops): "Anyone who tells a lie has not a pure heart", apply that to your life and don't troll on rock discussions. If RnR isnt 4 you, then leave it. Don't fight against it.
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer Actually I think you will find that In My Time Of Dying was by Blind Willie Johnson..get your facts straight, it deteriorates any strength in an argument especially if u say a song is by someone who it isn't in a plagiarism debate.
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TheNiko005 1 month ago
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@tardwhisperer If he didn't invent it,who did?Because all the other so-called ripoffs (like this one above) don't really convince me you know...The fact that LZ "recycle"-as you say- some songs (which in fact is re-inventing an old boring uncomplex song)is what gives the band the success it had, and always have.First, I was like you,i thought they were "overrated", then I just accepted that,after all, they were the parents of HARD ROCK, and that's it.Search it anywhere.Still Waiting 4your vid
TheNiko005 1 month ago
@tardwhisperer 90%?
YSEVERYNAMETAKENGOD 1 month ago
@TheNiko005 oh, so they plagiarized it and then added their own touch to it? well that's alright then
DukeMcManhands 1 month ago
@DukeMcManhands exactly...more than right. awsome is the word if you like
TheNiko005 1 month ago
I hated Zeppelin before I learned that they ripped this off.
3234718 2 months ago
Si Spirit llego a ser "El grupo al que robo LZ" Y LZ llego a ser LZ es por algo...
juansintierra521 2 months ago
Stairway to Heaven is inspired by this song but not completly, there is also the song that is called Nothing At All - Gentle Giant that came out one or two years before stairway to heaven.
sweetshadowhalo308 2 months ago
There is a fine line between rip off and influence. This is a rip off. There is barely any change involved, with Led Zeppelin's piece.
aer0smith1 2 months ago
@aer0smith1 Listen... Only the first four chords are the same. Try to sing the melody of the top guitar part on stairway... and you'll find the taurus one completely lacking. This is a practice that's been out there for ages in jazz and classical etc.
TheLorfhoose 2 months ago
doesn't this song also reminds you the song ''empty spaces'' from pink floyd?
pacospap 2 months ago
@pacospap It kind of reminds me of "Is There Anybody Out There?"
aer0smith1 2 months ago
@aer0smith1 That's because it also has a chromatic bass line in Am. This song sounds similar but only the descending chromatic bass line. The rest of it is different. Sure it's inspired by it, probably subconciously but it's hardly a total ripoff. It has the same feel and it has the same bass line. Big whoop! It's a chromatic run. Nobody owns a chromatic run down from the root. Give me a break.
cathbard 2 months ago
@cathbard Its different when someone makes money off of the same sound
aer0smith1 2 months ago
It's hard to be original. (I know; I'm a songwriter.) The descending bass line could be from a number of tunes. Don't think Jimmy Page guilty of worse than being inspired by it. I think the soprano voice in Page's intro going up as the bass goes down gives it enough originality.
brianallancobb 2 months ago
Hello Mcfly! Everyone coppies from each other.
Nothing new under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9
bronco3250 2 months ago
give me a break, the chord progressions in the song are almost completely nonidentical to zeppelin's version, this is solely influence and it's obvious.
Minoxca 2 months ago
barely any similarities? riffs are bound to be repeated, all music is that way.
motlencore89 2 months ago
@motlencore89 Not like this
aer0smith1 2 months ago
????????????
jgarcaalbarido 2 months ago
chromaticism is a main feature of classical music through popular folk songs from the nineteenth and twentieth century, as well as blues.
the strong resemblance of the opening three bars of the tune are definitely what inspired page, but his composition after that point is his own (going to the a minor and beyond). not to mention he voiced the chords more intricately. thom york (radiohead) his ripped off REM countless times, and admits it. that's what musicians do.
themagnetc 2 months ago
Sure Zep stole the opening to Stairway to Heaven from this song but the whole song Stairway to Heaven is a thousand times better than this failed Spirit tune. Don't get me wrong Spirit is a great band with many good tunes but this isn't one of them.
gregcarrsaved 3 months ago
I thought the progression originally comes from the song summertime,at least the first part.
petercharlescann 3 months ago
On one can claim a note progression. It's not stealing from anybody. Listen to Cream White Room and Tales of Brave Ulysses. Then listen to the chorus on Black Sabbath's Looking for Today. Then listen to the intro on Paul Stanley's Take me Away Together as One. I could go on and on. It's the same riff! Not the end of the world! Next someone will claim the II, V, I. Or the I, IV, V blues progression. Sillyness.
zappasmustache 3 months ago
Spirit was a WAY better band then Led Zeppelin.
Very original and unique music , I love how every fan of Led zeppelin is crying over the fact Page stole the little chord progression in the beginning and they can't seem to handle that. Oh well have fun listening to their originals like "Whole lotta Love" and "Dazed and Confused" ..... oh wait.......
guitarcrazy7 3 months ago
@guitarcrazy7 Haha, bad attempt at trolling. Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time. All MUSICIANS recognise that.
Murreh 3 months ago
@Murreh Oh sorry I didn't know it was an official fact that they are the greatest band off all time and that ALL MUSICIANS recognize that. Just because you have a lot of fans doesn't mean you are the best ever. Jonas brothers have a lot of fans too do you think there amazing also? Also I'm a musician and i don't recognize them as the greatest band of all time, so you're wrong.
Im just stating MY opinion sorry I'm making the pussy Led Zeppelin fans cry over what I'm writing
guitarcrazy7 3 months ago
@guitarcrazy7 Firstly I didn't say anything about a popularity of a band, secondly maybe you're a shitty musician if you don't recognise the talent.
Murreh 3 months ago
@Murreh I don't give a shit, I'm not arguing over fucking fans I'm just saying why Led Zeppelin got as big as they where and why people call them the "greatest". They where in the right place at the right time. There are bands that equal Led Zeppelin in musicianship and there are bands that surpass them. Spirit surpassed them musically and creatively. REAL MUSICIANS recognize that Zeppelin is overrated and they know that there are better rock bands out there. Like Spirit.
guitarcrazy7 3 months ago
Haha, "stole" there are similarities, but who cares, Led Zeppelin is THE BEST as these guys are not, I actually think it was a tribute if anything...."stole"...yea...
ZeppelinsStairway 3 months ago
"This is the song that Zeppelin stole the intro to Stairway to Heaven from".
lolololololol
cheeseburgerplz 3 months ago
first of all this song is older but its not exactly like stairway...just a few notes...its hardly a ripoff....and led zeppelin rules..spirit does not...its just a fact of life
gageinyoface 3 months ago
@gageinyoface Uh yeah, it's older, genius. Kinda hard to rip off a song from the future.
Ravenmane13 3 months ago
@Ravenmane13 wow what insight your bringing to the table here
gageinyoface 2 months ago
@gageinyoface I thought so. But really... my hat's off to you, with the time traveling and all. And it's "you're". Have a nice day.
Ravenmane13 2 months ago
How can anybody say Led Zepplin ripped off this song when it was uploaded in 2010. Stairway to Heaven came out in 1971!
hbdywtk 3 months ago
@hbdywtk I love led zepplin but this song came out in 1969 Spirit was a band they toured with.
canehdn05 3 months ago
@hbdywtk This song came out in 1968. That's 3 years before Stairway to Heaven. Jimmy Page was also a huge fan of this band.
MrHedloy 3 months ago
Man, that is one ugly dude...
soonerpoker 3 months ago
They begin seemed or equal it is all the same, the only thing that one is that led did the best song of all the times hendrix I adapt all alone the watchtower of dylan and the own author said that after listening to jimmy it would not touch it you eat I believe that spirit should have made equal when someone takes something your and makes it better alone you must thank him " THANK OR LED ZEPPELIN "
gramacitro5 3 months ago
empiezan parecidos o igual da igual, lo unico que se es que led hizo la mejor cancion de todos los tiempos hendrix versiono all alone the watchtower de dylan y el propio autor dijo que despues de oirle a jimmy no volveria a tocarla creo que spirit debio hacer igual cuando alguien coge algo tuyo y lo hace mejor solo debes darle las gracias "THANK U LED ZEPPELIN"
gramacitro5 3 months ago
Compared to Dazed and Confused and The Lemon Song, this is nothing
KennethKaniffFromCT 3 months ago
Led Zeppelin took the chord, modified it (slighty, to lengthen it ect;) and built onto it,...I like both versions, but If it's true that Zep has denied other artists the right to have credit multiple times thats pretty unfair, IMO you can rip a song to shreds as long as you give credit where it's due...
TheSuhreeuhlTube 3 months ago
Ok; the arpeggio that is "STOLEN" by Zepp is a minor A descending arpeggio, come on, that's not stealing, is using the same freaking chord <.<
Pelucaa95 3 months ago
Let me tell you.
I'm a Zep fan and I think this is a great song.
That's all.
zepelindeplomo 3 months ago 2
one phrase from stairway sounds like one from here but just the descending melody, stairway doesn't copy it completely. Rage Against the Machine's Wake Up sound a lot like Kashmir by Zeppelin but it's not ripping it off. It's taking it as an influence. Same thing here
deansinghgill 3 months ago
they barely sound alike
firewolfstone 3 months ago
...Well, the similarities are quite clear. I'd hesitate to say it was so similar as to be totally unique, however. If any of Led Zeppelin's members listened to Spirit, then yeah, it was almost certainly plagiarized. But I could see someone else coming up with the guitar work on their own.
LedZep WERE plagiarizing assholes, though. No denyin' that.
jpheitman 4 months ago
hey why are u guys saying this guys sucks? he was good enough for page to be INSPIRED by to write one of zeppelins most popular songs lol next time think people!
MrLedStoner 4 months ago
shut up, its totally different, if this guy had half of jimmy page's talent, they would be known
garenen2000 4 months ago
they didnt steal dumbass they were inspired lol yeah it sounds similar but fuck dude
MrLedStoner 4 months ago
@MrLedStoner "they obviously stole it because they arpegiated a chord and did a chromatic descending bassline, its not like everyone does that" (obviously sarcastic)
ledzelda9 4 months ago
@ledzelda9 lol dude i was about to go ape shit on you but then i seed the sarcastic part lol im not to huge on guitar but i know to much about bass and when u said a chromatic descending bassline i'm like WTF??? THATS WHAT EVERYONE DOES DUDE?? lol
but hey we can agree that led zeppelin kicks fucking ass!
MrLedStoner 4 months ago
@MrLedStoner lol, i re-read that and im like, hmm...if someone sent this to me id think theyre trolling, what i meant by the bassline isnt literally everyone but its more popular than people think, eg: "while my guitar gently wheeps" i know of other but i cant think of them specifically right now, the point is u get what i meant
ledzelda9 4 months ago
@MrLedStoner really then how did they end up stealing from bert jancsh, jake holmes, odviously taurus, COME ON. wake up and smell the coffee!!!
fishnetsNcigarettes 3 months ago
@fishnetsNcigarettes lol zeppelins badass there's a difference from being inspired and stealing jesus
MrLedStoner 3 months ago
@MrLedStoner Well, they recorded Dazed and Confused and claimed authorship. Then in the greatest hits the gave proper credit.
They stole Black Mountain Side from Bert Jansch. Down by the Blackwaterside.
They stole Lemon Song from Howlin Wolf Killing Floor
Babe I'm Gonna Leave you from Anne Bredon
IN My Time of Dyin was a blues standard, previously recorded before Page was born and he claimed authorship.
There's dozens of more examples of stealing or borrowing as you call it.
rrtodd95 3 months ago
@rrtodd95 jesus christ theres just no winning with you so is it not okay to be inspired by a song and write one that sounds somewhat similar like it? answer that question please answer it
MrLedStoner 3 months ago
@MrLedStoner There's nothing wrong with sounding similar but when the bulk of your work is a direct rip off of another artists work and you give no credit to them you are a hack.
If they listed on Stairway to Heaven, Words and Music by Jimmy Page and Robert Plant based on a variation of the Song Taurus by Spirit that would have been fine.
But the ripped of countless songs and listed themselves as the authors. Dazed and Confused is a prime example.
Go back to Dane Cook.
rrtodd95 3 months ago
@rrtodd95 okay but look at old blues thats all it is a rip off of another rip off now if you want to believe that led zeppelin was a bunch of rip offs fine go ahead but i dont see anything wrong with keeping blues alive? now maybe they needed to give credit but they still changed there songs enough to make them their own lets just say you actually had a valid argument and led zeppelin ripped off every one of there songs people still liked them they were still popular so they did something right
MrLedStoner 3 months ago
@MrLedStoner But they actually credited the original or in the credits listed it as written by based on traditional arrangement.
They didn't claim sole authorship like Led Zeppelin did.
They claimed Babe I'm Gonna Leave You they wrote. Yet Anne Bredon wrote it in the late 50's. Joan Baez recorded it 1960 yet somehow Led Zeppelin claimed they wrote it in 1969?
It's not even a variation. It's the exact same song.
It's plagiarism.
rrtodd95 3 months ago
@rrtodd95 Mr LedStoner, I completely agree. Its not like doing a blues variation. They lifted whole songs. I love LedZep, but that cant' be denied...like the Lemon Song that is what most people refer to, a blues lift, but...Dazed and Confused, Babe I'm gonna leave you, you can't claim to have written that.
BSlash24 3 months ago
Dude there is no a stole... it's like Stairway to Heaven but this no a copy, it's just like the song "Show No Mercy" - Slayer compared with "Metal Militia"- Metallica... it's no a copy the only thing is that they have same styles
sandman96100 4 months ago
1.36 - 2.05 sounds a bit similar to Stairway to Heaven intro... same progression
ARDUNNO 4 months ago