You did use a steadicam, didn´t you? I know what you mean with cinematography, but I think the camera isn´t moving really, erm, determinedly. What I want to say is, that it hasn´t got that really professional look, because the camera is much too undecided. ^^ I don´t mean this personal. That´s just my opinion. ^^
Ich glaub' ich schick dir mal uns're Mädels aus der Theater-AG vorbei. Die können dir dann ein ordentliches Skript schreiben und dann wird das ganze auch richtig cool.
the camera is really awesome to watch, but the fireball really cut off a huge piece of quality, in this case the clip would have been better if you just would have made something like get the girl go outside to point out a "happy ending"
The camera moves and angles are great and give it a lovely professional feel. But short films are all about the ending and the fireball makes no sense. Still a pleasure to watch.
@vfxworld Well for starters , it doesnt make any sense. There is no plot, no story no nothing. Its not about shooting pretty backgrounds and exotic locations. Anyone can shoot pretty things with a high end camera. Its no biggie.
@viplovem this video is about continuity and camera techniques. Furthermore this tells a story. A guy is throwing snowballs on a Window, what else do you need more?! I admit the end is kinda pointless.
Ah and what "story" do you want to put in 2 minutes without any dialouge?
@viplovem im pretty sure he wasnt trying to make an actually film more test footage to try to make a really good looking video. this is better then alot of videos ive seen on youtube even though the other videos made sense and had a story.
Mir würde es besser gefallen, wenn nicht das Zimmer des Mädchens explodieren sondern sie etwas übernatürliches mit dem Schnee machen würde. So fängt das ganze fast romantisch an und endet so gemein.
to give you a suggestion about better explosions: look up: action essentials 2. you don't need any kind of good computer. this is a collection of pre-made explosions, blood, and other action movie stuff. btw i can give you better short film scripts for free if you want. i do this for my class and i can give them to you if u like. pm me
oha! was war denn in dem schneeball drin??^^ naja das feuer am ende war nich so der hammer und es war für meinen geschmack etwas zuviel rauch dabei; aber tracking sah gut aus, und die kameraführug hat mir auch gefallen. ;-)
Huh? Well it was all pretty cool up to, in my opinion, the end... unless I just am not getting something. But for 99.9% I agree with the rest that it was cool.
okay for a great video you want great content.. not to be bumming you out but i didn't like it because i didn't like the characters.. they were just people on camera to me... i think you should have the audience more attached to them and also the fire wasn't exactly very realistic but that doesn't matter.. its the story you tell and how well you tell it.. not how cool the effects are even if your name is vfxworld.. just a tip and some constructive critisism..
Yea, but for attaching the audience more to the characters I'd need at least 4 mins. You know how modern Cinematography works? Well, you start in a wider angle and like a master shot or so. Than you slowly go into tighter shots. I tryed to bring the boy in with the first scene and the girl in the housscene using this technique.
Well, the audience needs time to attach to the characters. And this time was not given. Thanks for the tip anyway ;)
nice, snow is difficult to film in and it whited out at points, and the room was maybe a little dark against the bright window. the film was cool though and the music fit in really well. nice job
@theAlijan he doesnt need to have u seen his other fire videos? i dont knwo why this one looks so unreaslitic hendric? is the fire fumefx or after effects particles?
I realise this, but I usually can tell when its rendered fire and real fire. In most cases, studios usually combine the two.. getting the luminance value from the rendered fire and using it as an alpha cutaway on the real fire usually does wonders..
and as to why it looks the way it is, i think an inferno like that should not be as tamed. from the references i looked at the fire usually gushes out when theres a fireball explosion... this seems like somewhat floating.. it looks too calm..
@theAlijan yeah a way to make it look more realsitic is 1 make the fuire more realsitic... i think its teh color that is mainly makign it look cg and second idea maybe try remodeling the window or watever part your are making burn and use it as an object soirce the same way i made my human torch effect also maybe increasing gravity
Real fire will always look better. Why not use Action Essentials 2 or something along those lines?
The production value on this clip is really quite high, but do I dare say, it's almost ruined by the cheesy fire effect and the repeated cuts to black.
Real men use their hands when making snowballs.
32Echo23 3 months ago
The movie actually looked promising until the "special effects". :D
LordSuva 7 months ago
lol poor sorry:)
PX578 7 months ago
I love that until the end. Didn't really like the explosion.
TehLastSmurf 8 months ago
Das ist in Norddeutschland gedreht worden oder? Der Archithektur nach Nordwesten. 90ziger Jahre Neubau.
khosrow 9 months ago
@khosrow Ja, Niedersachsen ^^
vfxworld 9 months ago
You did use a steadicam, didn´t you? I know what you mean with cinematography, but I think the camera isn´t moving really, erm, determinedly. What I want to say is, that it hasn´t got that really professional look, because the camera is much too undecided. ^^ I don´t mean this personal. That´s just my opinion. ^^
NicoSchrenk 10 months ago
I liked the camera moves. Was it handheld and stabilized in post? If so, was it done in After Effects or FinalCut? If not, did you use a stabilzer?
sgtppr 11 months ago
mann war ich da junq!
YoO161 11 months ago
fucking awsum video.........it looks like HDR and SHARPENING are very good how to get this effect????? u did this in AFTER EFFECTS or is it CAMERA
xMshanx 1 year ago
WTF just one question , what tipe of cam did you use for thisvideo?
the resolution is awesome
eusttak 1 year ago
@eusttak Sony HDR-XR500
vfxworld 1 year ago
@vfxworld how much money do u buy this cam ?
Syntaxunda 11 months ago
@Syntaxunda 1200€
vfxworld 11 months ago
Ich glaub' ich schick dir mal uns're Mädels aus der Theater-AG vorbei. Die können dir dann ein ordentliches Skript schreiben und dann wird das ganze auch richtig cool.
LukasVideosify 1 year ago
Lol why did the snowball explode? Haha
zakipad 1 year ago
wow, that drawing was awesome, what did you use?
narutofan9tf 1 year ago
@narutofan9tf i used pastel pencils ;) if you mean that picture i made....
fairy93tale 10 months ago
@fairy93tale
beautiful drawing
narutofan9tf 10 months ago
the camera is really awesome to watch, but the fireball really cut off a huge piece of quality, in this case the clip would have been better if you just would have made something like get the girl go outside to point out a "happy ending"
ThoseGuysWithGits 1 year ago
The angles are awesome, I love it! :)
TaraArtsMovie 1 year ago
What is the idea of a film? Movie about nothing. The fire badly made. Not entered into the environment. Keep working.
Ktulhu82 1 year ago
@Ktulhu82 the point of this "film" is written in the headlin.
cinematography, which has nothing to do with story or effects.
vfxworld 1 year ago 3
Not a fan. Too much glidecam.
Rotorbladesus 1 year ago
great work!
ownorpwn 1 year ago
Gotta love the way a snowball causes a fire! Apart from that, very good. Thumbs up :)
TheSashagibbins 1 year ago
Good job with the camera movements and color correction, but a better plot could have been used. Other than this, well done!
FiImNation 1 year ago
The camera moves and angles are great and give it a lovely professional feel. But short films are all about the ending and the fireball makes no sense. Still a pleasure to watch.
TrevorBaudach 1 year ago 6
@TrevorBaudach thanks, working on a new short now. I'll try to give it a good ending :)
vfxworld 1 year ago
@vfxworld i like the ending. snowball fireball!!
JRTET21 1 year ago
cool
calatos10 1 year ago
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viplovem 1 year ago
@viplovem give me reasons and don't tell me what you ate at breakfast..
vfxworld 1 year ago
@vfxworld Well for starters , it doesnt make any sense. There is no plot, no story no nothing. Its not about shooting pretty backgrounds and exotic locations. Anyone can shoot pretty things with a high end camera. Its no biggie.
viplovem 1 year ago
@viplovem this video is about continuity and camera techniques. Furthermore this tells a story. A guy is throwing snowballs on a Window, what else do you need more?! I admit the end is kinda pointless.
Ah and what "story" do you want to put in 2 minutes without any dialouge?
vfxworld 1 year ago
@vfxworld You don't need dialouge to tell a story..
EffectFreak4 1 year ago
@viplovem im pretty sure he wasnt trying to make an actually film more test footage to try to make a really good looking video. this is better then alot of videos ive seen on youtube even though the other videos made sense and had a story.
ownorpwn 1 year ago
O, that was delicious.
densle1 1 year ago
i don't get it but it was AWESOMELY MADE!!
TheKrunchinator 1 year ago
lol, btew ur wife is beautiful
flashguy234 1 year ago
@flashguy234 haha it's my sister xD
vfxworld 1 year ago
My best friend is german :D, I'm gotta buy that camera, Nice fire by the way.
goranification 1 year ago
Mir würde es besser gefallen, wenn nicht das Zimmer des Mädchens explodieren sondern sie etwas übernatürliches mit dem Schnee machen würde. So fängt das ganze fast romantisch an und endet so gemein.
UWi1981 1 year ago
oo ight thx
2DEEP10 1 year ago
oo ok so is the Sony HDR-XR500V better then?
2DEEP10 1 year ago
@2DEEP10 no.
it's the same camera. 25 is european standard and 29 american.
vfxworld 1 year ago
Is there a difference between hdr xr500v and the hdr xr500ve
2DEEP10 1 year ago
@2DEEP10 the european one shoots in 25 fps. The other one in 29.
vfxworld 1 year ago
to give you a suggestion about better explosions: look up: action essentials 2. you don't need any kind of good computer. this is a collection of pre-made explosions, blood, and other action movie stuff. btw i can give you better short film scripts for free if you want. i do this for my class and i can give them to you if u like. pm me
StupidVids2009 2 years ago
You NEED to get a powerful computer!! haha But great video, loving the camera angles!
effectsgroup 2 years ago
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
jerriluz 2 years ago
"This short film is a bout a guy who throws snowballs"
...ich muss wirklich sagen, wenn ich so etwas in einer filmrezession lesen würde,
würde ich mir den film sofort anschauen^^ :D
KOundCO 2 years ago
woooow awesome camera angles and usage i liked
padalecki304394 2 years ago
Would be better if you create more realistic fire :).btw nice .I liked your chosen music and sounds
doublesob 2 years ago
oha! was war denn in dem schneeball drin??^^ naja das feuer am ende war nich so der hammer und es war für meinen geschmack etwas zuviel rauch dabei; aber tracking sah gut aus, und die kameraführug hat mir auch gefallen. ;-)
Savvatore30 2 years ago
Looks really nice!
Great job
mattydavid13 2 years ago
Sorry to be negative, but 1 and a half minutes of snowball throwing for that?
chris31ward 2 years ago
yes.
I'm working on better storys.
But watch out for snowballs. You never know whats in there.
vfxworld 2 years ago
Sony HDR-XR500VE kicks ass
scider7 2 years ago
noob
V3niX 2 years ago
Huh? Well it was all pretty cool up to, in my opinion, the end... unless I just am not getting something. But for 99.9% I agree with the rest that it was cool.
0MrENigma0 2 years ago
okay for a great video you want great content.. not to be bumming you out but i didn't like it because i didn't like the characters.. they were just people on camera to me... i think you should have the audience more attached to them and also the fire wasn't exactly very realistic but that doesn't matter.. its the story you tell and how well you tell it.. not how cool the effects are even if your name is vfxworld.. just a tip and some constructive critisism..
samwelkertv 2 years ago
thanks.
Yea, but for attaching the audience more to the characters I'd need at least 4 mins. You know how modern Cinematography works? Well, you start in a wider angle and like a master shot or so. Than you slowly go into tighter shots. I tryed to bring the boy in with the first scene and the girl in the housscene using this technique.
Well, the audience needs time to attach to the characters. And this time was not given. Thanks for the tip anyway ;)
vfxworld 2 years ago
nice, snow is difficult to film in and it whited out at points, and the room was maybe a little dark against the bright window. the film was cool though and the music fit in really well. nice job
digwillhachi 2 years ago
thanks.
Yes, I don't have 1000 Watt lights :( otherwise I'd have exposed the room correctly.
But when fimling I thought it would be nice if I'd expose for outside so that you can see just the siluhette of the girl.
I thought that'd add a mystical touch ;)
vfxworld 2 years ago
I like this... Good color, good camera movement etc...
WelschVideo 2 years ago
add some real element fire!! it will make the fire look so much more realistic! as previously said, footage is superb.
theAlijan 2 years ago
@theAlijan he doesnt need to have u seen his other fire videos? i dont knwo why this one looks so unreaslitic hendric? is the fire fumefx or after effects particles?
TDO615 2 years ago
I realise this, but I usually can tell when its rendered fire and real fire. In most cases, studios usually combine the two.. getting the luminance value from the rendered fire and using it as an alpha cutaway on the real fire usually does wonders..
and as to why it looks the way it is, i think an inferno like that should not be as tamed. from the references i looked at the fire usually gushes out when theres a fireball explosion... this seems like somewhat floating.. it looks too calm..
theAlijan 2 years ago
@theAlijan yeah a way to make it look more realsitic is 1 make the fuire more realsitic... i think its teh color that is mainly makign it look cg and second idea maybe try remodeling the window or watever part your are making burn and use it as an object soirce the same way i made my human torch effect also maybe increasing gravity
TDO615 2 years ago
FumeFx.
But I wasn't after a realistic effect obviosly. The problem here was, that I was working on a bad PC so I was not able to simulate a high res sim.
Also I didn't want to spend like a week on the explosion shape.
Well, next one will be better. I hope so ;)
vfxworld 2 years ago
@vfxworld awsome looking forward to it
TDO615 2 years ago
this is awesome.. subscribing all the way :)
RBproductions10 2 years ago
Excelente, mein Freund!
PearlRoads 2 years ago
Nice one - Great production. Thanks for the music plug too!
rickvanman 2 years ago
Real fire will always look better. Why not use Action Essentials 2 or something along those lines?
The production value on this clip is really quite high, but do I dare say, it's almost ruined by the cheesy fire effect and the repeated cuts to black.
Well done either way! 4/5
GraysunProductions 2 years ago 13
thanks.
Well, I like to create my own stuff.
But my PC is not good enough to simulate those high detailed Fluid Simulations...
vfxworld 2 years ago
4 stars good beginning
accuratesheep 2 years ago
vn1!! but didnt liked the blinking after the explosion!
pav2k 2 years ago
do you mean that you don't see the clip all at once?
well :P
I didn't want to render the whole scene, that'd have taken one day. So I thought I'd rather use the BlackScreen method, which fits pretty well.
That's at least what I thought
vfxworld 2 years ago
Супер)) Как говорится надо было выходить сразу)
Hortitsa 2 years ago