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  • So it's created on Maya or 3Ds Max :D :S

  • This vid is a favorite on Kigali

  • This video went viral on The Bahamas

  • For all u guys info, Max has made Autodesk more profitable than any 3d software combined!

  • maya is a node based program. you work right into the gut of the program, they dont make it so pretty for, you pretty much have to do everything yourself. which brings great flexibility if you know your stuff, but a terrible pain if you're new. i heard it's harder to learn than max since it's all nodes. i use maya btw

  • 3ds max rocks, it has particle flow which the best particles system ever, and it has great plugins like afterburn fumefx...etc.

  • @hanzoo77777 but then maya have built in fluid sim. also can work with plugins like realflow, fumefx and krakatoa...etc.

    maya: film industry standard

    max: game industry standard

    of course you can use them in both industries but they're just labelled that way

  • Theres one thing I like in Maya is the quick and easy workflow, do things quick and fast. I have learnt both Maya and max. From my viewpoint is that Maya has one hotkey which is g, that's why I can do fast. While max has no shotcut key for previous tools.

  • @mysteries0Rlies hahaha no hotkey?  try this key in ;

  • @mysteries0Rlies

    What???? Who said that? I always press ; key for that and you know what it works for me.

    @72dew

    I do agree with you. They both can be used in game and movies and I don't know why people bounding them for a particular industry.

  • @PixelDeBurner well yea of course no rule is applied but thats generally how it works.

  • 3ds max wins!

  • i love you maya

  • You guys 3ds max is modeling more for character creation, maps and etc. in video games and. Maya is a program for animations like cloudy with a chance of meatballs, astroboy,monsters inc. any pixar, dreamworks , animation movie. Hopefully this helped guys out. ;)

  • @YaboyKc actually , I think that there is no rule, Max is more used for games, but it can be used in movies just like maya, same way for maya

  • reason why Max is better at modeling is because it doesn't go by the rules of modeling. You can model using tris, quads even fucking n-gons.. while in Maya you have to go by the rules. Which is more professional. Build it in quads unless it's for a game engine. I like both but some things really piss me off in Max, lets say you have a project which two studios have to work on. Each plugin that you use in Max the other studio has to have.Not like in maya

  • @tsunami30003000 i know this reply is kinda late, but maya can also work with tris, quads and n-gons. what do you mean "rules"? im just curious :)

  • Maya is the best because maya is simple but powerful............. like windows..and the biggest advantage is easy handling and viewing..............

  • The same company makes these, I don't know what this is about hahaha

  • Autodesk wins

  • @Guding12 maya and 3ds max was invented by Autodesk.

  • @123PROductionsvideo With Inventor LOL.

  • @123PROductionsvideo thats the point

  • i prefer 3ds max because its the first one i learned but maya u can do the same things just a little different controls, every artist and animator has their own preference. the plugins make maya, 3ds max, and udk or any other game engine compatible so its no big deal

  • maya is an movie maker 3ds max is an game maker sooo

  • 1. Softimage / XSI = Rigging , Animation

    2. 3DSMAX + Maya = same quality modelling .

    3. zbursh +mudbox = both great sculpting software Thats it , where you see a + is just a matter of preference . This is the perfect KIT :D

  • Houdini

  • Maya has tools which you can do for 5 minutes later than Max, and Max has some tools which can be done in Maya later than 5 minutes. Maya has some tools which requires plug-in to do in max. But Maya doesn't need it so much. By the way i am using both softwares. Max is one step behind than Maya.

  • At the beginning of the fight, either 3ds was asleep or was loading up his plugins. lol

  • whatever,

    I love both of them

  • Guys.. WRESTLING is a FAKE!!!!!!!

  • for me maya is the winner, but max is also great software

  • @NemanjaDrazen What is the difference between maya vs 3D 4 max?

    I have an older 3D 4 max but I want to upgrade to a new version or software.

    I would like to hear your feedback and thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

  • @MTTTrainer It's hard to explain difference between Maya and Max ( watch differences on YouTube :D). If you already using Autodesk Max , i think it's better for you to upgrade Max to 2011 or 2012 version. Because, If you take Maya you will have to learn use Maya, because Maya is litle different then Max. (Sorry on poor english :D )

  • @MTTTrainer I went to ehow and obtained an answer to my question.

    Max is for game makers and Maya is for anything that's not gaming.

    Max has a Bi-ped function and Maya dosen't.Although both programs

    are made by autodesk company as a gamer I want max.

    Thanks for trying to help me with my question.

  • @MTTTrainer there's no difference between them only interface and the better look .. you can animate in maya .. but 3ds max easier in Biped that's it .

  • @mohanidzhd Thank you for taking the time to explain the difference

    between the two,I apppriciate the input.

  • the real winner is chuck norris

  • And the winner is....  The artist!

  • this is not Maya vs max..the animation is still key framed in one software,i don't know whether it is in max or Maya ....

  • 3ds MAX , together with all the best plugins, eg, FumeFX + Realflow + Vray + Rayfire + Krakatoa VS Maya Unlimited. That will be a real comparison, even though MAX will be more expensive, it will be a true comparison.

  • @HDHOTDUDE

    I don't know anything about either of the two products. Did you list all those plug-ins for Max becasue Maya out of the box has the functionality of all those plug-ins? Basically you are saying you would need to buy all those plug-ins for MAX in order to end up with what you would if you buy Maya without plug-ins? All that is already built into Maya?

  • @zonker61

    most of those plugins are available only for 3ds max. only Vray is available for both max and maya. and yes, to get a proper comparison of both products you will need those plugins. Maya has everything built into itself, unlike 3ds where you need the extra plugins for extra stuff, but they are still great, easy and very effective.

  • Both programs are more than capable to get brilliant results. It doesn't matter what the process is, you get the same results eventually. Sure there are more plugins for Max like Rayfire and others, but Maya is still a brilliant program which I use every day.

  • maya or max ?? help

  • Im trying to decide which software to get... in the long run this didn't really help me decide on what to buy, but good animation.

  • They're both owned by the same mega-corporation.  It doesn't matter in the long run.

  • I have to do a project using one of these programs but I don't know which one to use!

    anyone can help?! PLEASE!

  • Both the softwares are like angels of animation, and animation always remains the god.... superb video bro..

  • I have been using Autodesk Maya for 7 years and learned only the basics in Max but speaking from Maya's viewpoint there hasn't been a project i haven't been able to do.Most likely it depends on the user and not the program seeing as both are great programs and u can do anything with both.Most ppl say that Maya is better at animation and Max is better at games however i have seen great movies made in Max and i played great games made in Maya so they both win.

  • Blender 2.5 wins lol. open source, smoke + water + rigid body sims, uniform modeling, great internal renderer, nodes system, great animation system.

    TOTAL = $0.00

  • so what program i should go for it .. 3D max or Maya ?? =.=

  • 3d max price $3495 Maya price $3495

    For 3d Max, If you plan to do volumetric effects and liquids: afterburn= $545 Fumefx= $845

    Maya Already have it

    3d Max Full Power software $3495 + $545 + $845 = $4885

    Maya = $3495

  • @gianmarcomontes the question is why most vfx studios go for $4885 pick?!

  • I said neither lol. Both of them are nearly the same thing but idk alot of people like maya. both of them have their benifits.

  • What i really wan't to know is, what can you do in Maya that you can't do in max and vise versa? As previously said they are tools to do a job, so i'd like to know what these tools can do. I'm currently using max. Is there anyone out there that can say what the benefits, drawbacks of each are? Then i can figure which one to use, for what ever project or maybe both!

  • ?? Matter of preference? Just a tool? Im a 3d Max User but know im learning Maya, There is one a big big BIIIGGGG reason why! If you wanna make Fluids in 3d max you need a Plugin. If you want to make a convincent Fire You need a Plugin, If you want easy animation in Dinamics You need a plugin. Maya Already have it, and with each version they improve those Features. 3d max keeps with the shit "new MODELING TOOLS" "New improvent when you pull or push a vertexx Yeeeeehhh"

  • This video is a sample, a proof that shows that it doesn't matter what tool you use, if you don't feel the animation, the whole production will collapse!

  • IMO, 3ds max for VFX & Maya for "advance" animation...

  • i was forced to migrate to from 3ds to maya because of an error in my registry and the only way to keep animating was to get a new program or reinstall windows.

  • FATALITY!

  • cool video , good example on how sound can ruin your videos

  • Neither will win. Max, Maya, and Softimage are a commercial scheme thought up by Autodesk in which they each have different strong points and weak points so that production houses have to buy all of them and then buy every one of their stupid updates. Autodesk can get away with this because they have a monopoly on the 3d marked and in the end Autodesk is the winner.

  • max- computer games

    maya- movies

  • which ever program u used to make this wins :)

  • MAYA MAYA MAYAAA!!! jajajajajaj

  • The fact that maya is more advanced is becoming less and less relevant. Seeing as that the company who owns maya ALSO owns 3D max. The interface with maya is at times just completely senseless and frustrating, while 3D max interface is very easy. Students who have learned some maya have gone to 3d max and get 3d max within hours saying why isnt maya like this? If maya was smart it would change its interface to that of 3D max, it really is more user friendly.

  • If Autodesk was smart both would be rolled into a single product, 3ds Maya or maybe MayaMax. A simpler easier to use interface like max, but with the more powerful tools for organic modelling of Maya.

  • @AusFastLife

    no. each programm got a special area. maya for movie animations etc. 3ds more for games stuff ^^

  • @RightsReserved

    dude. I tried 3ds max in the first place. and it was too hard. then i tried maya. and i felt comfortable from the first second...

    Its always different how people see something... and if your an advanced modeler/animator. then its good to have the tools right there to select. and what you said about (maya should chance its interface into 3ds max one) then you dont know what your talking about

  • Of course Maya wins, because it's alooot more advanced.

  • I have to be honest with this one. maya is best for Graphical pasting in an OBJ format as in the 3d format placing UV's. 3d max is best for easy animation and bending object and mathematical ways of forming an object.

    thats it

  • @007s00s +1 to your comment

  • Maya wins because 3DS dosen't exist on mac

  • @007s00s Why would it, only 15-20% of the world uses Mac, the rest use PC it is a waste of time developing or porting software to Mac. They should just make PCs and save the duplication of effort and resources of making a second computer type.

  • @AusFastLife Or maybe the world should just make Macs.

  • BLENDER WINNNS!!

  • @AmazzTasticFillms too bad it doesnt have UV;s T_T

  • @AmazzTasticFillms XD NOOOO

  • Maya !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    

  • Whats the name of the song? And maya!

  • What's this? XSI has entered the ring with a lead pipe!

  • Maya is autodesk most poweful full fledged app for visaul art and media. Inventor Is autodesk most powerful CAD. The rest are just smaller cheaper packaages to sell to clients with smaller needs, in a more economical way.

  • I like them both, but 3ds max costs more than maya, so i have to assume that maya is a lesser program. Personally maya is better with rendering and animation, Max is way better when it comes to Interface, Modeling, and Texturing. I've seen people use lightwave and get just as good results so i can't definitively say that any are the best. I can only say the artist behind the desk is talented.

  • 3D STUDIO MAX PAWNS ALL THE WAY!

  • well i use 3ds max and i just got maya .. coz so many people told me that maya is better .. but uh i can't find anything in maya .. lol everything is so diffrent :S .. and im using 3ds max for like 3 years ..

  • why not learn both!

    i use both of them. Maya is easier but Max is also good.

  • maya is much more professional but 3dsmax is easier to use

    well it doesnt matter cause i love c4d ;--))

  • I second that SkinnyMan. I use Max for modelling and texturing, but for animation it's got to be Maya.

  • I learned 3d with studio max. I tried to learn maya after that and got so confused I felt I was wasting time and went back to 3ds. All my game dev m8s say move to maya. I think im quicker with 3ds so I stick to that as workflow speed is important. Especially in the industry. I dont like the .3ds format tho. I prefer .obj. the real question is what is faster for you.

  • hahahahahhaahh

  • Haha, I don't understand why there is so much competition between the two programs. They are just tools, its like arguing over whether a wrench is better than a screwdriver. Use each for their respective strengths. I use both all the time.

  • @SkinnyMan3000 This is probably the best comparison I've ever head from this argument! It really is just a matter of preference!

  • @SkinnyMan3000 I Bet Autodesk loves it lol.

  • @SkinnyMan3000

    I use maya and started with it also. i dont say 3ds xsi  or cinema are bad ..

    i just dont want to use them because i would have to relearn it all again for no reason.

    so I keep maya.

  • @SkinnyMan3000 In my experience (I'm an animator so I'm kind of biased) Max has better tools for modeling, and Maya has the better animation tools. I've never formally used Max, so I'm really only going off of what my buddies who are learning Max in college say. But according to them, the graph editor is awful (though I've also heard it's much better now) but the modeling tools are great. I still do all my modeling in Maya because I usually only do it for quick and dirty props and sets.

  • @SkinnyMan3000 so... which one's better for what? They both seem the same to me.

  • @xxbluejay21 As a lot of people have said, Max is better (though that is a such a relative word) for modeling, but Maya has some better animation tools. I also like to use Max for quickly creating text since Maya's text creation system, while not terrible, isn't amazing. Honestly, I use Maya a lot, as I started off using it, and have grown accustomed to it. But there are many tasks that Max just does a lot faster. There are so many modeling shortcuts in Max that you have to do by hand in Maya.

  • The winner is Autodesk Inventor

    realy

  • I know the answer who will win.. its not the program its the user.. maya or max are just tools.. but maya is better becuase maya is faster and u can write u'r own scripts and have's more plugins also for the game indusry first I taught that max was the software for game but also now maya is taking over so let me put it like this if u really want to do movie effects then I will say maya is the software.. is maya to hard then u have to take the little brother that's max ;)

  • @DickKnowsBest AutoCAD is good for drafting (Revit is a more powerful tool now thought for that) and can do 3D renderings since it has mental ray in it, but if you are only doing visualizations then 3ds Max or 3ds Max design would be better.

  • @DickKnowsBest You would want to look at either 3ds Max or Revit, with 3ds Max being the first choice if you only want to do realistic environments.

  • i want to learn how to do stuff like this but im only one person so it'll take a long time. it sucks

  • i like maya. easy to learn, and I have a mac.

  • Modo will win. :)

  • haha let me gues.. this animation done by maya? ))

  • @3D8n52DmV37EI6oHeX It was done fully in 3ds Max

  • @3dtraining which 1 gives you the best rendering?

  • @3dtraining lol thats why its quality :3

  • Maya=3ds Max at least at modelling. Whatever, Autodesk is the winner :))

  • Whats harder to use?

    - I want to be able to make, games(landscape,buildings, ect..), animation, designating, homes,buildings, ect... What do you recommend using?

    -Thanks.

  • its not the software its the person if you cant adapt then to bad they all have some kick ass stuff i use softimage but something happend now i have to use maya since its close to it

  • Hi, and wich software did yoy use to me make this animation?, haha.

  • yeah 3ds max, they said it was used to create one of the greatest hit movie this year called avatar.

  • 3d max!

  • noo! mayax ftw!

  • true, true

  • The real winner is Autodesk

  • which one is used more for video games?

  • 3ds Max is used a little more in the gaming industry over Maya. It always boils down to the studios preference and pipeline though.

  • blender 3d ftw!

  • woooo totally :D

  • 3D MAX!!!

  • they both cost the same. around $3500

    but ive seen some versions as high as 6 or 7 G's

  • I´ve got 3d max 2010 For Free

  • did you download it in a torrent?

    dont send me the copy. i dont want any viruses today.

  • NoTorrent For me!

  • @TheWaynelds or get it free :P

  • they are both good. for a fast fast modeler 3DS max is good to model something easily and quickly. Maya will most likely create more professional works.

  • Im not sure why people think that Maya is more professional. They both produce the same results in the end. Both are used on Movies (3ds Max was used on Avatar all fo the X-Men, 2012 etc and the list goes on for movies), Games, TV etc. with 3ds Max being used in a slightly wider variety of industries due to its use in the architectural and engineering fields. Its all what you like and prefer as a tool.

  • @3dtraining Well said 3dtraining. I actually started out in Maya and I came to really like it (and still do) although a while back I decided to learn max. Initially I didn't like it, just because I wasn't use to it. Now, I'm a bit better in max then I am in maya. They are so similar though, it is really easier to merge from one to the other. In the end, it's a just a tool, choose the one that you prefer to work in and stick with it. If you ever need to switch, it won't be difficult.

  • @3dtraining

    actually, maya was used for avatar.

  • @roeas29 no it was open-source linux applicatoins

    i dont care which is better BUT which is easier to use?

  • maya

  • If you are going professional go Maya otherwise Max. Professionaly Maya is used more, well particularly in film. 3D Max has more of a following in the gaming industry. Max will be easier to learn but Maya can be pushed more hence its use with studios. I believe Maya's script is better for creating tools and pipeline integration aswell, adding to its usiblity in the higher-end markets of film! In a non-professional capacity Max seems to be the more popular though!

  • The animation was ok, but the camera work was terrible.

  • Any of you bright ones with skills send me a msg. I need someone to donate work to a worthy astro-physics project demonstration.

  • 3ds max is the best mate, say no more!!!

  • And then Blender comes out of nowhere and kills them both!!!!

    But then it crashed... And because there is no auto-save they popped back to life.

  • i know max, but I'm gonna learn maya anyway.

    why choose be greedy ;)

  • I hear Max is easier to learn, but when I looked at Industrial Light and Magic, Weta, it's primarily Maya. Pixar says to learn maya as well. So, all of the LOTR, Spider-Man, Pirates, King Kong, Avatar, X-Men, Transformers, all use mainly Maya. Max can certainly produce professional results, but the film industry seems to have demonstrated to me that if you are really serious about high end 3D Maya is best. Blender is cool, I mean it's free, but Maya really does have a lot more capabilities.

  • the ending was pretty obvious xD

  • tsc...tsc...tsc...

  • whats better for simulations

  • I am thrilled with Blender (the latest version is nicer too) AND, I just dumped Windows for Ubuntu/Linux and found that ALL my open source GUI programs are working somewhat better!! ALL FOR FREE,AND LEGAL. I'm certain Autodesk will gladly sue you out of existence for stealing their product.

    The Blender interface is a bitch to learn, but it does all the things the other$ do. You're going to have to learn the principles, and there is NO substitute for creativity.

  • yeah im using blender too and i TOTALLY agree with you

    its not so easy to understand in the early, but once you are in you will nearly find the tools and functions, all the big programs (c4d or whatever) claim to be the only program including this ^^

  • And one day, you'll go for an interview at a large studio, and be rejected for the position because you only use Blender, don't use Windows or Mac, and spell the letter S with a dollar sign, thus solidifying your position as an open-source toolbag.

  • @nhavas Firstly, blender runs on every operating system you listed and more. Secondly plenty of large corporations feel it is worth their time to be involved in open source including IBM, Microsoft and Apple.

  • I'm sure both of them have their ups, but I'm learning Maya, so...

  • They are both really good and with every version they become even more similar in features. Personally I like Maya becuase thats what I first learned but Max is awesome too.

  • Maya + plugins = HOLLYWOOD FILMs

    Max + plugins = Maya suck

    joke.. ;))))))

    Both nice 3ds programs!

  • Maya is the best 3D software. It`s been used by the professionals mostly.

    3ds Max is more popular but not better than Maya - not even close.

    It`s been used by some professionals but also by amateurs and people without solid understanding of 3D workflow.

    I work on both, and i`m telling you this from my personal experience. My coworkers share the same opinion too.

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  • @botonja can you tell something wich it true? cus by reading this aah nevermind not going to waste any time on this

  • I`m just saying that people who work on both choose Maya. It is not my opinion, but fact.

    So, do you work on both, or you`re using just max?

  • @botonja well im talking about this line : 3ds Max is more popular but not better than Maya - not even close. i dont realy agree about that one :P

  • who will win based on what'?

  • Some of the things I prefer over the other:

    3ds max: great poly modelling-tools, easy and good rendering, material editor is much better than hypershade, comfy dark UI colors :).

    maya: user interface is great (especially mouse+keyboard actions), great dynamics engine and general animation tools, great nurbs modelling.

  • Maya is 3, 495 not 10,000 .

    Nobody SHould Have 3ds MAx and Maya Right ?

    They do the same stuff Right ?

    (click my name message me)

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  • Which program is easiest/best for beginners (like myself). I of course wouldn't be buying the full version (like $10000 for Maya) but maybe a 1 or 2 year student copy. Which is easier to learn? If I were to get Blender, how does it compare and would the skills I learn from that help me in Max or Maya? Thanks everyone!

  • I have used Maya, Lightwave, and Blender. From my experience I will tell you that in my opinion the best thing you could do is use blender, there are tons of resources out there to reference, and everything is free! you will learn key skills that are the base of every 3d program. the shortcuts will be different, and things like that. But, you will learn the most important things, thinking in 3d, building in 3d, etc. Blender is free, and there is no restrictions on it.

  • Thank you very much =)

  • it depends what you need it for

  • Who won the most Academy Award for past 5 years? Definitely Maya. Simply there is no rival to it.

  • Hmm.. I say autodesk win. Or that depends on what was used on this xD

  • As a experienced artist i would say:

    1st place - Maya

    2nd place - ....... (no software is so close to maya)

    3 XSI

    4 3ds Max (hmmm maybe is too much)

  • come'on! 3DS max beats the crap out of XSI.. used XSI for some years until i got 3Ds max.

  • Blender wins, LOL