This so isn't Chengs form. The feet keep moving independently and the hands do too, there's something very wrong with the shifting of weight, and the rooting is very intermittent. This chap keeps bobbing up and down there is very little sung. It's all very stop - start. This is very far from Master Chengs form.
The feet do not move independently, they move when he rotates his center. He only rises when he is doing an AnJin that would draw the opponent in. The sung is apparent in that his chi and li are contained and not wasted.
I've been watching this video occasionally for two years now. At first, i thought, "what a stange robotic type of taichi. Some months later, I thought, "Wow, that's some pretty good structure." Still more months later, I thought, "Hey, I think that's pretty good taichi." Now, looking at it again, I think it is flipping excellent! That is some seriously good taichi. Nicely done! Give us more.
Brother, I thank you so much for the channel comment. It was inspiring and I have seen your demonstration here and have found it worthy of the word captivating. Your sung is awesome to watch. You are soft, centered, circular and rythmical. Western Tai Chi Ch'uan is a pugilistic taiji. My continuing research has found that unbeknown to me it is a occidental take on Wu Mengxia's Annotations of the Nine Song's and Eightyone Postures. Would love to discourse about it with you... G
I've had sessions with WCCC. His form, like CMC's, has gone "old man"; everything is internalized and super-soft.
This young man is specifically trying to display the form for learing the movements, via video or in person. His turns and weight shifts are somewhat exxagerated, but that makes it cleared for an observer to see whats going on.
His movements are stilted and somewhat forced. Compare to William CC Chen's performance, or even footage of Cheng himself and you'll immediately see what I'm talking about.
This crew is always top notch. I hope to push hands one day with some of these practitioners to see my own progress. I wonder why people that train internal lift weights? I do isometrics and calisthenics but to ligt weights really makes the shoulders and arms stiff, and take away from their true elasticity. Just my opinion but i feel that weight training is a no no for a true internal practitioner.
Doing any sort of resistance exercises (weights, calisthenics etc..) on a regular basis will negatively effect your taiji growth. Simply because the muscles become trained to contract when the body meets with force, not allowing the sinews to stretch and release. However, some internalists do a couple cycles of weight training a year to increase body mass and weight in order to conduct more internal power and strengthen the root. This is fine if you spend time releasing the excess tension.
I would disagree. You can still lift weights, as long as you don't get into the bad habit of meeting force on force. IF you can light weights, remain calm throughout the other part of the day, and remember to soft into movements they will go along just fine.
TaiChiTex, I see that you have many years of experience. Is what you say - 2,3 hours of Taiji for every hour of weight training - the standard for combating the negative effects of resistance exercises? I guess I want to ask is if you are sure that is correct.
excellent performance. Hands down. perfect body line, dropped shoulders, tucked hips, relaxed Dantian. The form is from someone who understand what taichi is all about. The form is not pretty for those who is not inside the door, but it is a joy for someone who had a peek. Excellent!!!
It's better than average, but notably at the start of raising the arms there's a lot of locking up in the shoulders, also pivoting is quite double weighted- presumably an eccentricity of this style adopted to promote the feeling of the power feeding from the feet. Excessive spinal tension, but otherwise excellent :)
the size of the frame never changes only the expression of elemental energies do. the instructor is playing the form concentrated with earth element, showing stability, perfect structure and alignnment, sinking and rooting.
it s great to see this sort of tai chi movenents are nt forced like most tai chi schools if u look close u can see true power with in his form with no effort awesome
Its not that stiff, It looks quite smooth, he does seem to be distracted by the camera as the mind she be more through the body to the ground but he is still well trained. Smooth movement, sinking in the right ways and position. Nice!
yes, it does look stiff to the untrained eye..but this isn't your typical pompous taiji, no overplayed big wavey movements just pure untainted form and if you look deeply, all the principles are in play..anyway, this schools reputation for pushhands and boxing skills says it all.
There are only two good things I can see: a nice straight back and a very focussed yi, other than that, I personally don't like this type of Taijiquan.
"this schools reputation for pushhands and boxing skills says it all"
Just who do they box with to get that rep tho, I wonder...?
People believe that bullshit. Throw it in the bin.
mantistonglong1 9 months ago
This so isn't Chengs form. The feet keep moving independently and the hands do too, there's something very wrong with the shifting of weight, and the rooting is very intermittent. This chap keeps bobbing up and down there is very little sung. It's all very stop - start. This is very far from Master Chengs form.
Blackdog23a 1 year ago
The feet do not move independently, they move when he rotates his center. He only rises when he is doing an AnJin that would draw the opponent in. The sung is apparent in that his chi and li are contained and not wasted.
orthobio 11 months ago
I've been watching this video occasionally for two years now. At first, i thought, "what a stange robotic type of taichi. Some months later, I thought, "Wow, that's some pretty good structure." Still more months later, I thought, "Hey, I think that's pretty good taichi." Now, looking at it again, I think it is flipping excellent! That is some seriously good taichi. Nicely done! Give us more.
roadsterdriver 1 year ago
Brother, I thank you so much for the channel comment. It was inspiring and I have seen your demonstration here and have found it worthy of the word captivating. Your sung is awesome to watch. You are soft, centered, circular and rythmical. Western Tai Chi Ch'uan is a pugilistic taiji. My continuing research has found that unbeknown to me it is a occidental take on Wu Mengxia's Annotations of the Nine Song's and Eightyone Postures. Would love to discourse about it with you... G
ANGELSGYMSINGH 1 year ago
cool stuff! u are a master i see...
SovereignBeing 1 year ago
Nice!
KCMO2NDTWIN 1 year ago
Nice!
KCMO2NDTWIN 1 year ago
Yes, it's the first third of the 37 form - building the root and structure phase.
andymach33 1 year ago
I have just noticed this is very similar to the haka, cool!
bodunchar 2 years ago
It looks robotic, like if robots were made of water.
3wr33k 2 years ago
I think he's building the frame with this form. If you look at his push it is very good so the form must be doing something right.
wanli3000 2 years ago
I've had sessions with WCCC. His form, like CMC's, has gone "old man"; everything is internalized and super-soft.
This young man is specifically trying to display the form for learing the movements, via video or in person. His turns and weight shifts are somewhat exxagerated, but that makes it cleared for an observer to see whats going on.
He's doing a good job.
DocHack 2 years ago
His movements are stilted and somewhat forced. Compare to William CC Chen's performance, or even footage of Cheng himself and you'll immediately see what I'm talking about.
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andymach33 3 years ago
This crew is always top notch. I hope to push hands one day with some of these practitioners to see my own progress. I wonder why people that train internal lift weights? I do isometrics and calisthenics but to ligt weights really makes the shoulders and arms stiff, and take away from their true elasticity. Just my opinion but i feel that weight training is a no no for a true internal practitioner.
Peace and blessings
XBLOCKS 3 years ago
Doing any sort of resistance exercises (weights, calisthenics etc..) on a regular basis will negatively effect your taiji growth. Simply because the muscles become trained to contract when the body meets with force, not allowing the sinews to stretch and release. However, some internalists do a couple cycles of weight training a year to increase body mass and weight in order to conduct more internal power and strengthen the root. This is fine if you spend time releasing the excess tension.
madinternalist 3 years ago 2
for every hour of weight training 2 - 3 hours of Taiji or related movement...
TaiChiTex 2 years ago
I would disagree. You can still lift weights, as long as you don't get into the bad habit of meeting force on force. IF you can light weights, remain calm throughout the other part of the day, and remember to soft into movements they will go along just fine.
Aheyne 2 years ago
TaiChiTex, I see that you have many years of experience. Is what you say - 2,3 hours of Taiji for every hour of weight training - the standard for combating the negative effects of resistance exercises? I guess I want to ask is if you are sure that is correct.
chickenfoot0 2 years ago
excellent performance. Hands down. perfect body line, dropped shoulders, tucked hips, relaxed Dantian. The form is from someone who understand what taichi is all about. The form is not pretty for those who is not inside the door, but it is a joy for someone who had a peek. Excellent!!!
ylbee 3 years ago
It's better than average, but notably at the start of raising the arms there's a lot of locking up in the shoulders, also pivoting is quite double weighted- presumably an eccentricity of this style adopted to promote the feeling of the power feeding from the feet. Excessive spinal tension, but otherwise excellent :)
Egg09Seed 4 years ago
his ward off seemed a bit of and the brush knees
a bit strange however the principals were adhered to,I guess hes at the very small frame stage and yes it seemed his chi did the work for him.
abraxnos 4 years ago
the size of the frame never changes only the expression of elemental energies do. the instructor is playing the form concentrated with earth element, showing stability, perfect structure and alignnment, sinking and rooting.
andymach33 4 years ago
nothin' off 'bout that performance. show me better, abraxnos!
theCoppercat 4 years ago
I retract my ignorant comments,and stand In awe of this lineage!!!!
abraxnos 3 years ago
it s great to see this sort of tai chi movenents are nt forced like most tai chi schools if u look close u can see true power with in his form with no effort awesome
littlewise1 4 years ago
Its not that stiff, It looks quite smooth, he does seem to be distracted by the camera as the mind she be more through the body to the ground but he is still well trained. Smooth movement, sinking in the right ways and position. Nice!
TeamWuJin 4 years ago
movement here is created by relaxation, not trying to make movement look relaxed
andymach33 4 years ago
Very stiff for a CMC guy
Sorry ,i dont like it
vonvioletron 4 years ago
yes, it does look stiff to the untrained eye..but this isn't your typical pompous taiji, no overplayed big wavey movements just pure untainted form and if you look deeply, all the principles are in play..anyway, this schools reputation for pushhands and boxing skills says it all.
madinternalist 4 years ago
It looks pretty stiff to the trained eye also.
There are only two good things I can see: a nice straight back and a very focussed yi, other than that, I personally don't like this type of Taijiquan.
"this schools reputation for pushhands and boxing skills says it all"
Just who do they box with to get that rep tho, I wonder...?
nig1966 4 years ago
people think soft means like a ragdoll, no... this is soft but with structure
subliminaldepthcharg 4 years ago
you have to understand what is going on inside .another person that wants a flow .real taiji training that is what this is
al70ok 4 years ago
good structure, definetly looks martial.
madinternalist 4 years ago
looks very solid
theoldboxer 4 years ago