In July 1429 Joan of Arc had led a French army to lay seige for 4 days to the town of Troyes in Ch-Ardenne ( which was under English rule). Joans army was running out of food but fortunately, months earlier, there had been a wandering Friar; Brother Richard, who had been preaching that the world would end.For some strange reason the residents had responded by planting early beans. These happened to be ready and so the army ate them. Did the residents hope to climb up bean stalks to heaven ?
In July 1429 Joan of Arc had led a French army to lay seige for 4 days to the town of Troyes in Ch-Ardenne ( which was under English rule). Joans army was running out of food but fortunately, months earlier, there had been a wandering Friar; Brother Richard, who had been preaching that the world would end.For some strange reason the residents had responded by planting early beans. These happened to be ready and so the army ate them. Did the residents hope to climb up bean stalks to heaven ?
Ik kan u zelfs verzekeren dat de voertaal onderling Frans was : de Brits-Normandische adel in Engeland was Franstalig, en Frankrijk had destijds ook nog eens een bevolking die 3 tot 5 keer groter was dan de Engelse.
Je vous assure que la langue parlée était principalement le français, qui était d'abord (souvent) la (seule) langue des Normands britanniques, seigneurs de l'Angleterre. Et n'oubliez pas que la population française était trois ou cinq fois plus grande que celle de l'Angleterre.
Q for medieval warfare experts: The English manoeurvre at the end - archers/banners forward a bit - then the knights turn around. Was this a genuine practice at the time?
@crapatev Im not sure if this is how they retreated but the English army normally deployed with dismounted Knights/Men-at-arms in the centre (because they were well trained and equiped with armour they took the full force of the French army), the longbowmen deployed on the flanks so that when the French army charged the English centre the longbowmen can shoot into the French armies flanks.
The English-French hatred. A long standing tradition. We English have always bickered with the French, and vise versa. These days its mostly in good fun though. (:
I have been living with a beautiful French woman for years, who came to England to live, when she was 18, and has lived here ever since! We go to France to see her famille, and my Welsh mother, and Cockney father went to live in France!
both great countries,as are all lands, potentially. Its the people who can make a country great. I make Houses, Fr. and Eng., in silver, on teapots! check me out, if you wish! michaelburtonsilver.co.uk have a lovely life, everyone !
Saint Joan Of Arc The Greatest Christian Martyr Ever She Sacrificed Her Pious Life For Words Of GOD And For The Freedom of A Great Nation Called France.May Jesus Christ Son Of God Bless Her Soul.She Bravely Fought evil english.
@fra2603 Vietnamese people take pride in their history because we had 2 lady princesses who destroyed Chinese armies and liberated some places from them.
Thank you ?? Of what ? To have fled like a flock of young frightened girl when the French continued to fight . You are really good in clownish comment .
In 1940 question of the French general to the English general " we could do a cons-attack " . Response of the English general " no we prefer a " glorious retreat " . The shame was on your army with it's " glorious retreat " .
The English were crushed , the difference with the French is that the English had a natural element called the Channel . So the English fled well protected by the Channel while the French continued to fight and protected the English "glorious retreat ".
"we had no confidence in your Army typical French" . You are really funny with your hypocritcal comment . The truth is that you was afraid by the Blitzgrieg . You are so afraid that you give up all your military equipment in France .
"These men died for your country " totally false this men died with courage for the interest of UK and not for France .The French soldiers and the French resistance died for France and also the 300 000 civilians killed by the allied bombing .
What a kind of retarded child you are ? You ask for respect but you come here with your Francophobic comment . You know nothing about nothing . At the End of the war 120 000 French were condemned for collaboration and there were 500 000 French resistant . France was the country in Europe where more Jews were saved and the country of Europe where less jews were deported compared to the country's jewish population .
This is your brain who "get burned" by your French hatred.
" i don"t hate the French " of course you are only a typical English hypocrite . "true heros " very funny when the English in the history always need allied to fought the French heros alone .
Another clownish comment where you see that the half population of France collaborated ? And of course you forget the French Free Forces who fought alonside the allied , more than 1.3 million of soldiers . Remember the English was " prepared to fight " too , yet they were crushed also.
You are really a funny ignorant troll . Marechal de Luxembourg , Grand Condé , Marechal Turenne , Marechal Ney learn history instead listening English propaganda .
lol Very funny yes it's the Marechal Ney who kicked the ass of Welligton several times . In the history the French kicked your ass so many times even if you was hiding behind allied .
And when you say " wow big list " it's funny too because , there is several hours you say that the French had not men heros . Poor hypocritical French hater lol .
Saint Joan Of Arc The Greatest Christian Martyr Ever She Sacrificed Her Pious Life For Words Of GOD And For The Freedom of A Great Nation Called France.May Jesus Christ Son Of God Bless Her Soul
from out of the Koran, God speaks 2U: ""Between you and me are 70.000 veils, between me and you, none"" We are so veilt, this is 1 of them, nationalism, I'm from...You are...so different.. it's soo shortminded, now let's face the other 69.999 Veils then :))))))) Peace, Braham ARCHANGEL MICHAEL'S CHANNEL from me, I'm a medium like Joan.
Nobody without the power of the belief in God would ever be able to accomplish what that illiterate teenager accomplished: give France back her confidence and turn the tide of the English campaign. A nice lesson for the atheist infested Internet.
@kostyel well good historical movie with a good beer all time works for me ... but dont make me spell after it hehe ! sometimes not even before it hehehehe
@lfc011 The Norman conquest was a pivotal event in English history. It largely removed the native ruling class, replacing it with a foreign, French-speaking monarchy, aristocracy, and clerical hierarchy. This, in turn, brought about a transformation of the English language and the culture of England in a new era often referred to as Norman England.
By bringing England under the control of rulers originating in France, the Norman conquest linked the country more closely with continental Europe, lessened Scandinavian influence, and also set the stage for a rivalry with France that would continue intermittently for many centuries
Joan probably had brain damage. People with head injuries, especially to the frontal lobe, often start "seeing God" or other things that others do not. They get followers because it's not fake. It's as real to the person with the head injury as touching a hot stove is to the rest of us. In any case, don't mean it as an insult as it appears she saved a ton of human lives.
okay this movie gave me nightmare's you knw the part when she see's jesus/god bleeding and crying (i think) i dream't that........ as if god was like giving me a sign
but didn't get it...so anyway's i woke up like at 3 in the morning sweating(did not pissed my bed) and this was like at age five or 6... still creeped out bout thinking it!!!
@kostyel There was 6000 Scottish soldiers at the battle of Verneuil in 1424 (one of the biggest battles of the Hundred years war). The battle started when French cavelry charged longbowmen on the right flank of Bedfords dismounted men-at-arms, however instead of turning around to charge at Bedford from behind they carried on towards the English baggage train behind the English lines. Then Bedfords men-at-arms engaged the French men-at-arms (while another unit of men-at-arms under the earl...
@kostyel ... of sailsbury engaged the Scots.) While the Franco-Scottish army was fighting with the English a unit of Italian cavelry seeking glory went around Sailsburys left flank and charged the baggage train, but, like the French cavelry, the baggage trains guards managed to drive the italian cavelry off. Then the baggage guards hit the Scots on their right flank while Bedfords infantry (who had driven off the French infantry) turned around and hit the Scots from behind. Although the Scots...
@kostyel ... were surrounded on 3 sides they refused to give in but eventually most of the Scots (including Scottish nobles like Archibald, Earl of Douglas and his son James, Earl of Mar) where killed in battle.
The battle is often described as a second Agincourt but needless to say the Scots went down like hero's.
The France and England are 2 countries that have a great military history , military power is certainly of their regular clashes
The French have also often defeated the English and their allies remind you the battle of Camaret .
For the French revolution and Napoleonic wars , many wars coalition are lost by the coalition that is all the greater power of Europe with England . England did not win more major wars . Remember HYW and war of Amercan revolution
Well, I am a protestant Christian and I do know the Holy Scirpture very well. According to the scriptures by St. Paul, first bishop of Rome. It is imperative that the Christian be able to operate in the 5 fold gifts of the Holy Spirit. God is able to speak, via the Holy Spirit in the inner conscience. Therefore it is through the anointing of God, that prophecy can be given, that words of knowledge can be known via the word from the Lord. Hence Joan D'Arc is not a heretic, but a believer.
@afropaco Me too I never got why this movie had so bad review sure some roles probaly should had better actos(not Jean tough) its bit confusing xD but hell is awesome movie is one of few medieval movies that realy capture how bloddy and dark was those days not a Arthurian Fairy Tell like a lot of movies are a realy is almost grutoste view of it look at characters they all dirty thats how medieval people looked like not knigths in shiny armor xD
I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and to continue fighting.
I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and inspire them to continue fighting.
I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and inspire them to continue fighting.
in religion,she's a saint and sent by god,believe it or not...
but the fact still remains,she raised the french armies morale and gave great inspiration,when their hope and morale is at its weakest,and her death just raised it more,and eventually the french would regain their lands and after some centuries,would become the world's great power,under loius XIV,then later under napoleon bonaparte I...
if not for her,france would'ved fallen under english rule...
Shame she was burnt at the stake as a witch. Those damn english. Her bones were ground to dust so no holy relics could be calmed. I love the middle ages :) if only the english and french kingdoms could unite and use their power on another crusade to the east. Why fight one another for 100 yrs?
If you consider the "English" army, all the knights would be of French descent as well, the men-at-arms would be from Gasconny (the one of the French side were usually from Normandy becasue Normandy and Gasconny had the strongest men in France) and the archers derived from the lower class, welsh and Anglo-Saxons.
archers always made up at least 2/3s of the army and in all of the famous battles, agincourt,crecy, poitiers they ran out of arrows and joined the hand to hand fighting
ok seriously people read a real history of the hundred years war this stereotypical hollywood bullshit isn't real, there are so many other factors going into play in Joan of Arc's story than god and supernatural forces, give the lady some real credit
Patay was like "HAY GUYZ LOOK - A STAG! OH SHYTE IT'S THE FROGGIES!" Then La Hire was like "CHAAAAAARRRGGGGGE!" N' the English didn't have time to set their longbowmen up so they all got trampled and sliced to bits. Fastolf goes "O NOES! RUNAWAYVERYFAST!" Joan's just like "LOL!...I mean...I must confess!"
back then people didnt know about psychiatric disorders/ mental illness, this girl was half crazy and half insane, enough sanity to persuade a desperate country that needed a saviour but very stupid and insane for her not to see the consequences for claiming she heard voices from god, they didnt know she had a serious mental illness and as desperate as they were as their country was being invaded by england, they were willing to accept anything, anyone, they took a chance with this poor girl
Maybe the military should try this tactic more often =) ...Ok, so the battle at Patay didn't go down quite this easy, but her presence did cause many English soldiers to lose courage & flee without a fight. She reformed the French army by building up morale & driving out the prostitutes & profanity in the camp. Was she in a driven, manic state? Very likely. Was it more than just a psyche disorder? Unquestionably. (read her history & bogus court trial) Crazy or not,...this was no ordinary girl.
all the white countries suck, WHITES ARE the stupides craziest dumbest and really gay lazy ugly dirty filthy and nasty drug addicts, brothers we aren't drug addicts at all we're the future like asians are, fuck whites, brothers we have to send drugs to north america and europe, whites u all know that you love our drugs it's good for your brains hahaha stupid addicts , hey dumbs buy our drugs we can take ur money while we destroy ur lives and heatlh lol
@blindedbyglitter I think this movie shows very nicely the different scenario's that could've happened. Noone can be sure, but this movie glorifies and vilifies her.
Up to you to decide what you like best. Noone can tell you.
why do people keep saying shes crazy? how can a crazy woman lead a whole army back in the days and etc etc
why can't people accept that she may have been told by God to reconquer France? which was at the time one of the most holiest catholic countries ya know..
and there is no way to know today between Holy and scientific on how the world is made.. keep your mind open. she's the savior of France if you don't like her then be it and leave us alone but otherwise show some respect
@FRApp44300 crazyness is no obstacle - hitler, napoleon and stalin have all been successful at waging war. and i really doubt any of them could pass psychological tests to get to army or to get a driving licence
besides, if she was led by god, why did god abondon her so abruptly before she could achieve any of her goals? did god really bother to intervene for a castle and a few forts? and why won't christians pray and be happy etc, why do you have to PREACH allll the time
The day you & other athiests are finally able to see the Demons standing behind you to tempt you to stand on a soap box & rant against God then we'll see how Godly your appear
@FRApp44300 because it´s a fucking stupid theory, it´s likely that she clinged to her imagination like alot of people do and especially did back then.
@FRApp44300 Agree totally. She was my great aunt (I'm related by one of her siblings), and I when people say she was crazy or a schitzofreniac really pisses me off. She lead the French army to victory after victory, and crazy people don't have that kind of success record. She was an intensly spiritual person, and she could have felt calling by God to lead France (which I think she did). She was only defeated because she was betrayed by the King of France.
Just because you're related to her it doesn't mean you know she was telling the truth? Even if you're family are the most honest people on Earth, that was generations ago. She'd have been very different.
@NormbrettaMod Well, I think she was. I don't think she had any reason to lie. She demonstrated many times that she was brilliant military tactitician, with no prior military training. Whatever you think of her, I don't think she was a schitzophreniac or crazy. A crazy person like that would not be able to do the things she did. I think she was telling the truth. Take it how you will, I don't really care. But, you were not there either, so maybe you are wrong.
How can I be wrong? I was just criticising you, wasn't making any judgement myself. But I just find it hard to believe that her "vision" wasn't false. I mean, how many others have had such visions from a different God? What about the Prophet Muhammad? He was a great war leader himself so he couldn't be crazy but his vision was concerning a totally different religion!
@NormbrettaMod Are you an athiest? That might be why you find it hard to believe. And if, that's the case, then we have very different world views. And as for me, it's rather easy to believe that she could have had visions from God. People are so eager to discount something supernatural, and sometimes the "natural" explanation takes more faith to believe than the other.The whole visions from a different god thing, is another matter entirely.
"he whole visions from a different god thing, is another matter entirely." Explain please?
And to answer your question. I'm not sure. Based on my upbringing I've always considered my self a Christian but recently, meh i don't know. I mean, I follow all the morality and that and Christ is my idol, but I find the God stuff hard to believe. Do I have the right to call my self a Christian? cont...-->
@NormbrettaMod Ok. Christianity teaches that the God of the Hebrews and Jesus Christ are one and the same, and no other god exists. Christians do not believe that Islam's god is the same as their's, so therefore any vision that is claimed to be from God, but says something contrary to what Jesus said is counted as a false vision that was made up, or a false prophet that recieves vision from drugs, or demons. Even people who claim to have visions in the Christian faith, have to be questioned. -->
...Other than Christianity, I lean towards Humanism as opposed to Atheism. If I were to abandon my religion and not believe in any deity or anything spiritual but used the NEW Testament (and Christ's' teachings) as my guide through life...what would that make me? And sorry if I come across as narrow-minded. I just really struggle to understand such things.
@NormbrettaMod Hmmm...if you followed just the morals of Jesusan nothing else, I guess you'd be a secular christian. I don't see you as small-minded in the least. You seek truth, and so you search. If you seek, you will find. :)
This might help you tho.Christians believe God can speak through anything. This includes others' actions, nature, and everyday circumstance. I've found my prayers answered in such ways when asking for guidance. So a "vision" she had might have been something like that.
@NormbrettaMod So as far as I can tell, you are a humanist, but you follow Jesus' teachings as your guid. True Christians accept that Jesus is God incarnateand that He alone is the redemption of all mankind. I don't see you as narrow-minded at all, dude. You're searching, for truth. Seek, and u will find. :)
This might help you though. A vision doesn't always have to be a dream or trance as we se in movies and stuff like that....----> Continued
@Mosh4Yesh777 A vision can be a simple answer to a prayer. But, God doesn't have to speek audibly (very rare). He can answer thru actions of others, thru nature, or just an everyday circumstance. I've prayed and asked, for guidance, and many times I found my answer in the least likely places. So in the case of Joan, she could have just been seeking answers to prayers and felt led to do what she did. Who knows? Maybe the church embellished a bit when they canonized her as a saint. ;)
@NormbrettaMod It would make you a follower of Christ by works rather than faith. According to traditional Christianity, the purpose of precepts in the Bible is only to show us how miserable and incompetent we are to follow them. It is God's perfection, which we can never achieve. Christianity is different from all othe religions in that it doesn't require seekers to earn their salvation. It is a supernatural act alone. The law can only be written inside -- not followed on our own.
@FRApp44300 People say she was crazy because there was a European movie that portrayed her that way. It's a product of Post-modernism, which just can't stand to have a hero. They must deconstruct her somehow without evidence, and declare all the great things said about her over the generations, despite ample evidence, as simply myth. You're right, a delusional woman couldn't have attained the successes she did, and then answer so intelligently during trial. She's the real thing.
@FRApp44300 dude or maybe she used god as an excuse who knows whole point is she was one hell of a woman god or not in she must have had massive charisma in been a quick wit to convince so many men to follow hr
@FRApp44300 You're absolutely right. Regardless of whether she was making miracles or not, it's no mean feat for a teenage girl to lead armies. And I do doubt that in the age of inquisition one would have let a crazy person lead the army, especially of the state on the defensive :D
The english of the time werent at all scared of the french army or men, They had beaten them time and time again, And until Joan showed up believed God was on their side,
Joan literally scared the utter shit out of them when she showed a possibility of being gods messenger
this Joan of arc was very irritating,,, but we will never know how Joan really was.
Nosondakar 2 days ago
it was very moving.......
wergrethe 2 weeks ago
Battle of Patay: The english longbowmen no longer exist.
hommechauvesouris 2 weeks ago
In July 1429 Joan of Arc had led a French army to lay seige for 4 days to the town of Troyes in Ch-Ardenne ( which was under English rule). Joans army was running out of food but fortunately, months earlier, there had been a wandering Friar; Brother Richard, who had been preaching that the world would end.For some strange reason the residents had responded by planting early beans. These happened to be ready and so the army ate them. Did the residents hope to climb up bean stalks to heaven ?
zytigon 2 weeks ago
In July 1429 Joan of Arc had led a French army to lay seige for 4 days to the town of Troyes in Ch-Ardenne ( which was under English rule). Joans army was running out of food but fortunately, months earlier, there had been a wandering Friar; Brother Richard, who had been preaching that the world would end.For some strange reason the residents had responded by planting early beans. These happened to be ready and so the army ate them. Did the residents hope to climb up bean stalks to heaven ?
zytigon 2 weeks ago
Et la superbe musique de Vangelis...
etbadaboum 2 weeks ago
Probably already been said but...
MUUULTIIII-PASS!
photonz1812 3 weeks ago 2
Defeated by a woman... This is England
benjiAkatosh 4 weeks ago 3
@benjiAkatosh
Eh. You have maybe forgotten the men behind her. She could be just a great tacticial.
2nadalfederer1 4 days ago
"Stand by to attack". That maneuver rarely did much for France when attacking an English line protected by longbowmen...
Mistermax30 1 month ago 3
FUCK YOU FRENCH
SidorakKing 1 month ago
@SidorakKing Peace, bro =)
Robbie59 1 month ago
Ik kan u zelfs verzekeren dat de voertaal onderling Frans was : de Brits-Normandische adel in Engeland was Franstalig, en Frankrijk had destijds ook nog eens een bevolking die 3 tot 5 keer groter was dan de Engelse.
Je vous assure que la langue parlée était principalement le français, qui était d'abord (souvent) la (seule) langue des Normands britanniques, seigneurs de l'Angleterre. Et n'oubliez pas que la population française était trois ou cinq fois plus grande que celle de l'Angleterre.
Benni
Zeeuw1957 1 month ago
Isnt she the chick the played the 5th element????????
aceous99 1 month ago
Return to the kitchen where thoust cometh Wench!
aceous99 1 month ago
Pity that this is how they presented the battle of Patay (which I assume this is representing) as the real thing was epic.
1500 French men at arms defeat 9000 English in a single charge killing nearly six thousand.
I can guess what they going for with this but the real thing would be better in my opinion.
LitD 2 months ago
@LitD yes and only... 3 french soldiers killed !
musiclas1 4 weeks ago
@LitD its not, its after they conquer chapagne at the rine river, then cross the river to send this army away
bizonmaciej 3 weeks ago
I've heard that English is actually French spoken badly.
Kalydosos 2 months ago
I WANT THAT GIRL BURNED ! : )) HHA Fuckersss
nigerkubra 2 months ago
"In the sea, spanish i want, and if in land, may god proctect us"
English proverb
22459ignacio 2 months ago
Q for medieval warfare experts: The English manoeurvre at the end - archers/banners forward a bit - then the knights turn around. Was this a genuine practice at the time?
crapatev 2 months ago
@crapatev Im not sure if this is how they retreated but the English army normally deployed with dismounted Knights/Men-at-arms in the centre (because they were well trained and equiped with armour they took the full force of the French army), the longbowmen deployed on the flanks so that when the French army charged the English centre the longbowmen can shoot into the French armies flanks.
MultiAngryguy 2 months ago
@MultiAngryguy Thanks for your reply - Interesting to read.
crapatev 2 months ago
She looks blind in this clip... :P she wasn't, was she?
Reika15ful 3 months ago
@Reika15ful lol the English captain Glensdale looks blind aswell :P
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
What the heck did that English knight say at 1:37?
arthurpendragonsyt 4 months ago
The English-French hatred. A long standing tradition. We English have always bickered with the French, and vise versa. These days its mostly in good fun though. (:
England and France forever. Two *great nations!
Wallonische 4 months ago 32
@Wallonische fuck france
6580006247 1 month ago
@6580006247 fucking inbred English
TheJEANFB 3 weeks ago
this movie wasn't terrific... but what refreshing scene though, great scene of the movie
Hem4fiction 5 months ago
Mila Jovovich???
rackiztahpunkiztah 6 months ago
I have been living with a beautiful French woman for years, who came to England to live, when she was 18, and has lived here ever since! We go to France to see her famille, and my Welsh mother, and Cockney father went to live in France!
both great countries,as are all lands, potentially. Its the people who can make a country great. I make Houses, Fr. and Eng., in silver, on teapots! check me out, if you wish! michaelburtonsilver.co.uk have a lovely life, everyone !
Rythmichael 11 months ago
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this is not the place to discuss french-british hatred.. conform esle i'm going on a delete comments spree again
kostyel 11 months ago
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Saint Joan Of Arc The Greatest Christian Martyr Ever She Sacrificed Her Pious Life For Words Of GOD And For The Freedom of A Great Nation Called France.May Jesus Christ Son Of God Bless Her Soul.She Bravely Fought evil english.
saccyind 11 months ago
why are characters in European stories always British not all Europeans have accents
LangBellsChannel 11 months ago
it's kind of ironic that the french speak english in this movie LOL
blaquehawq 11 months ago 20
@blaquehawq
Yes but what is ironic too that the English language is composed in great part of many French words .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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cumbas 11 months ago
@blaquehawq Yeah in reality both should have spoken in french.
SloveintzWend 3 months ago
@blaquehawq Haha I strongly agree^^
TheMikachu117 2 months ago
@blaquehawq .... With an American accent at a time when America was .... well .... Native.
Malaka57 1 month ago
I don't know if throughout history any other women leaded men to combat like that and actualy won. French history defenately is the greatest
fra2603 1 year ago
@fra2603 there was a celtic woman who did once, i cant remember her name.
jack16895 1 year ago
@jack16895
Boadicca?
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@fra2603 Vietnamese people take pride in their history because we had 2 lady princesses who destroyed Chinese armies and liberated some places from them.
bigphillip25 11 months ago
@bigphillip25 yes but I'm going to tell you something sad and unfair but true : nobody cares about the asians.
fra2603 11 months ago
@fra2603 And nobody cares about you either right?
bigphillip25 11 months ago
@bigphillip25 do you mean me or europeans?
fra2603 11 months ago
The British wore redcoats..why? When an officer was wounded his men wouldn't see the blood and wouldn't be discouraged!!
For almost the same reason the French officers wore brown trousers!!!
ManOnTheMoon2 1 year ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
If you look well you can see that the English wore a yellow trousers ...
jeffkodiac 1 year ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
You are funny but you are wrong , the English pissed of fear in the face of a ..........sherpherdess ...
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
Moi je la revois encore ridiculiser la " grande armée Anglaise " en leur disant "il est temps de renter chez vous , too funny .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
Thank you ?? Of what ? To have fled like a flock of young frightened girl when the French continued to fight . You are really good in clownish comment .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
In 1940 question of the French general to the English general " we could do a cons-attack " . Response of the English general " no we prefer a " glorious retreat " . The shame was on your army with it's " glorious retreat " .
The English were crushed , the difference with the French is that the English had a natural element called the Channel . So the English fled well protected by the Channel while the French continued to fight and protected the English "glorious retreat ".
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
"we had no confidence in your Army typical French" . You are really funny with your hypocritcal comment . The truth is that you was afraid by the Blitzgrieg . You are so afraid that you give up all your military equipment in France .
"These men died for your country " totally false this men died with courage for the interest of UK and not for France .The French soldiers and the French resistance died for France and also the 300 000 civilians killed by the allied bombing .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
What a kind of retarded child you are ? You ask for respect but you come here with your Francophobic comment . You know nothing about nothing . At the End of the war 120 000 French were condemned for collaboration and there were 500 000 French resistant . France was the country in Europe where more Jews were saved and the country of Europe where less jews were deported compared to the country's jewish population .
This is your brain who "get burned" by your French hatred.
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
" i don"t hate the French " of course you are only a typical English hypocrite . "true heros " very funny when the English in the history always need allied to fought the French heros alone .
Another clownish comment where you see that the half population of France collaborated ? And of course you forget the French Free Forces who fought alonside the allied , more than 1.3 million of soldiers . Remember the English was " prepared to fight " too , yet they were crushed also.
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2 Why would Joan of Arc being a woman have to do with anything?
NeneLuvXD 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
You are really a funny ignorant troll . Marechal de Luxembourg , Grand Condé , Marechal Turenne , Marechal Ney learn history instead listening English propaganda .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
lol Very funny yes it's the Marechal Ney who kicked the ass of Welligton several times . In the history the French kicked your ass so many times even if you was hiding behind allied .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
And when you say " wow big list " it's funny too because , there is several hours you say that the French had not men heros . Poor hypocritical French hater lol .
jeffkodiac 11 months ago
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ManOnTheMoon2 11 months ago
@ManOnTheMoon2
Ha!
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@mwillis1000
That make no sense because you don't know history .
jeffkodiac 1 year ago
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Saint Joan Of Arc The Greatest Christian Martyr Ever She Sacrificed Her Pious Life For Words Of GOD And For The Freedom of A Great Nation Called France.May Jesus Christ Son Of God Bless Her Soul
she fought bravely with the evil english army
saccyind 1 year ago
@saccyind
Idiot. There's rarely a good or evil in any war and the leaders of England at that time were all French anyway so...
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
from out of the Koran, God speaks 2U: ""Between you and me are 70.000 veils, between me and you, none"" We are so veilt, this is 1 of them, nationalism, I'm from...You are...so different.. it's soo shortminded, now let's face the other 69.999 Veils then :))))))) Peace, Braham ARCHANGEL MICHAEL'S CHANNEL from me, I'm a medium like Joan.
TheUnicorn13 1 year ago
That is a shame, you are right. But the French dont forget their friendship with the Scots. Remember the "Marche des soldats de Wallace". Sheers
Darodh 1 year ago
What a bad ass
TheOTShow 1 year ago
Nobody without the power of the belief in God would ever be able to accomplish what that illiterate teenager accomplished: give France back her confidence and turn the tide of the English campaign. A nice lesson for the atheist infested Internet.
Frisbinator 1 year ago
"Message from God" is more acceptable (for both armies) than "message from a peasant girl".
The "voices" she heard were probably just an excuse.
Btw, the Burgundy sold her -like they sold France to the Brits at the beginning of 100 years war- not the "French".
sangwria 1 year ago
@TheStandofTheLastGuy
I was stating the number of Scots who fought at Orleans.
tenchimuyo69 1 year ago
Very powerful scene.
Mrgyn 1 year ago
That's not a rout, that's a retreat.
PureJockPureBrit 1 year ago
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well britiain went on to take over a quarter of the the world so happy :P i piseed btw :P:P:P:P:P
lfc011 1 year ago
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@lfc011 yes. but there's one thing Britain failed: teaching you proper grammar
kostyel 1 year ago 5
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@kostyel Sorry about the bad grammar i was drunk last night :P
lfc011 1 year ago
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@lfc011 well it's okay at least you watch historical movies when a bit dizzy :)
kostyel 1 year ago 3
@kostyel well good historical movie with a good beer all time works for me ... but dont make me spell after it hehe ! sometimes not even before it hehehehe
iumelen 1 year ago
@lol well i like to, i like to see my countrys history :P
lfc011 1 year ago
@lfc011 The Norman conquest was a pivotal event in English history. It largely removed the native ruling class, replacing it with a foreign, French-speaking monarchy, aristocracy, and clerical hierarchy. This, in turn, brought about a transformation of the English language and the culture of England in a new era often referred to as Norman England.
MrBillcale 1 year ago
@lfc011
By bringing England under the control of rulers originating in France, the Norman conquest linked the country more closely with continental Europe, lessened Scandinavian influence, and also set the stage for a rivalry with France that would continue intermittently for many centuries
MrBillcale 1 year ago
@lfc011
Britain wasn't in this war. It was England,
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
Joan probably had brain damage. People with head injuries, especially to the frontal lobe, often start "seeing God" or other things that others do not. They get followers because it's not fake. It's as real to the person with the head injury as touching a hot stove is to the rest of us. In any case, don't mean it as an insult as it appears she saved a ton of human lives.
ActaNonVerba71 1 year ago
haha!!...necro sample... violins of violence!
Ahbahpatch 1 year ago
okay this movie gave me nightmare's you knw the part when she see's jesus/god bleeding and crying (i think) i dream't that........ as if god was like giving me a sign
but didn't get it...so anyway's i woke up like at 3 in the morning sweating(did not pissed my bed) and this was like at age five or 6... still creeped out bout thinking it!!!
abey3008 1 year ago
I loved this story. And this movie.
Breana9109 1 year ago
Best war film.
MaxiBoOoY 1 year ago
Hummm It's a movie, truth is: after the battle of Orleans , there are 4 other battles
1)The Battle of Jargeau.,2). The Battle of Meung-sur-Loire,3) The Battle of Beaugency.,4) The Battle of Patay.
Before the battle of Orleans , it was The Battle of the Herrings.
Unfortunately no homage to Scottish troops in this film.
666Vredesbyrd 1 year ago 3
@666Vredesbyrd
there were Scottish troops with the French? how many?
kostyel 1 year ago
@kostyel
6000 soldiers (John Stewart or Stuart) with some archers and knights.
Scotish famillies in Orleans check here: franco-ecossaise.asso.fr/vahistoire.html in french .
here : Auld Alliance >>> vielle alliance on wiki.
666Vredesbyrd 1 year ago
@kostyel Roughly 6000.
Led by John stewart earl of Buchan
ScotsLyon 1 year ago
Not sure if I can find an exact figure...
At Orleans... about a thousand? But I can't find enough research sources.
tenchimuyo69 1 year ago
@tenchimuyo69 okay, it is very interesting though! let me know if you manage to find some sources, thanks
kostyel 1 year ago
@kostyel There was 6000 Scottish soldiers at the battle of Verneuil in 1424 (one of the biggest battles of the Hundred years war). The battle started when French cavelry charged longbowmen on the right flank of Bedfords dismounted men-at-arms, however instead of turning around to charge at Bedford from behind they carried on towards the English baggage train behind the English lines. Then Bedfords men-at-arms engaged the French men-at-arms (while another unit of men-at-arms under the earl...
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@kostyel ... of sailsbury engaged the Scots.) While the Franco-Scottish army was fighting with the English a unit of Italian cavelry seeking glory went around Sailsburys left flank and charged the baggage train, but, like the French cavelry, the baggage trains guards managed to drive the italian cavelry off. Then the baggage guards hit the Scots on their right flank while Bedfords infantry (who had driven off the French infantry) turned around and hit the Scots from behind. Although the Scots...
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@kostyel ... were surrounded on 3 sides they refused to give in but eventually most of the Scots (including Scottish nobles like Archibald, Earl of Douglas and his son James, Earl of Mar) where killed in battle.
The battle is often described as a second Agincourt but needless to say the Scots went down like hero's.
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@kostyel more than 1000 scottish soldiers
saccyind 1 year ago
Also... most of the "English" troops... should also be French.
A truth that is even lost in a number of history books.
tenchimuyo69 1 year ago
@666Vredesbyrd That's a shame , you are right, but the French dont forget their Sctos friends link with "Marche des soldats de Wallace". Greats =)
Darodh 1 year ago
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The France and England are 2 countries that have a great military history , military power is certainly of their regular clashes
The French have also often defeated the English and their allies remind you the battle of Camaret .
For the French revolution and Napoleonic wars , many wars coalition are lost by the coalition that is all the greater power of Europe with England . England did not win more major wars . Remember HYW and war of Amercan revolution
France won
TheStrelok57 1 year ago
amazing scene, favorite
MrBillcale 1 year ago
Well, I am a protestant Christian and I do know the Holy Scirpture very well. According to the scriptures by St. Paul, first bishop of Rome. It is imperative that the Christian be able to operate in the 5 fold gifts of the Holy Spirit. God is able to speak, via the Holy Spirit in the inner conscience. Therefore it is through the anointing of God, that prophecy can be given, that words of knowledge can be known via the word from the Lord. Hence Joan D'Arc is not a heretic, but a believer.
dishwasherman83 1 year ago
I love this movie!
afropaco 1 year ago
@afropaco Me too I never got why this movie had so bad review sure some roles probaly should had better actos(not Jean tough) its bit confusing xD but hell is awesome movie is one of few medieval movies that realy capture how bloddy and dark was those days not a Arthurian Fairy Tell like a lot of movies are a realy is almost grutoste view of it look at characters they all dirty thats how medieval people looked like not knigths in shiny armor xD
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
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I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and to continue fighting.
oortiz915 1 year ago
I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and inspire them to continue fighting.
oortiz915 1 year ago
I dont know about she getting messages from God, I dont believe in that stuff, what I do know is that she knew how to give inspiring speeches, that could raise the moral of the troops, and inspire them to continue fighting.
oortiz915 1 year ago
her acting is o.u.t.s.t.a.n.d.i.n.g. Thanks for uploading!
TheOtherSaluton 1 year ago
in religion,she's a saint and sent by god,believe it or not...
but the fact still remains,she raised the french armies morale and gave great inspiration,when their hope and morale is at its weakest,and her death just raised it more,and eventually the french would regain their lands and after some centuries,would become the world's great power,under loius XIV,then later under napoleon bonaparte I...
if not for her,france would'ved fallen under english rule...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
crazy or not, she helped (or did) kicking out the ugly rosbifs out of France. Nothing else matters. Vive la France!
Draksen 1 year ago
she kind of creeps me out in a way
popsticky09 1 year ago
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wtf? the english just walked away?
gerian001 1 year ago
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-"There have been 53 major wars in Europe
France had been a belligerent in 49 of them; UK 43.
In 185 battles that France had fought over the past 800 years, their armies had won 132 times, lost 43 times and drawn only 10.
Giving the French military the best record of any country in Europe".
BBC History
gipcambero 1 year ago
what is the name of the song?
abers109 1 year ago
what is the name of the song?
abers109 1 year ago
Whats the name of the song to the end?
abers109 1 year ago
Shame she was burnt at the stake as a witch. Those damn english. Her bones were ground to dust so no holy relics could be calmed. I love the middle ages :) if only the english and french kingdoms could unite and use their power on another crusade to the east. Why fight one another for 100 yrs?
chasedwar 1 year ago
Is she just a saint or is she also a prophetess?
mjay22 1 year ago
If you consider the "English" army, all the knights would be of French descent as well, the men-at-arms would be from Gasconny (the one of the French side were usually from Normandy becasue Normandy and Gasconny had the strongest men in France) and the archers derived from the lower class, welsh and Anglo-Saxons.
TemplarX2 1 year ago
archers always made up at least 2/3s of the army and in all of the famous battles, agincourt,crecy, poitiers they ran out of arrows and joined the hand to hand fighting
jzippo 1 year ago
interesting. I don't know much about the militaries of this time period. What should I read?
jburrelli 1 year ago
ok seriously people read a real history of the hundred years war this stereotypical hollywood bullshit isn't real, there are so many other factors going into play in Joan of Arc's story than god and supernatural forces, give the lady some real credit
Randalina1 2 years ago
Great movie on the whole. Attempt to depict the Middle Ages in medieval categories. No modernization of history.
allexx1212 2 years ago
Patay was like "HAY GUYZ LOOK - A STAG! OH SHYTE IT'S THE FROGGIES!" Then La Hire was like "CHAAAAAARRRGGGGGE!" N' the English didn't have time to set their longbowmen up so they all got trampled and sliced to bits. Fastolf goes "O NOES! RUNAWAYVERYFAST!" Joan's just like "LOL!...I mean...I must confess!"
Snyder29 2 years ago
That English commander was a bit of a pussy......I would have stormed the field and killed every living thing in sight!!!!
Thats the true English way!
BitingOsprey 2 years ago
fuck you and your pending approval bullshit fucking weak bastard
HatefulWarrior 2 years ago
back then people didnt know about psychiatric disorders/ mental illness, this girl was half crazy and half insane, enough sanity to persuade a desperate country that needed a saviour but very stupid and insane for her not to see the consequences for claiming she heard voices from god, they didnt know she had a serious mental illness and as desperate as they were as their country was being invaded by england, they were willing to accept anything, anyone, they took a chance with this poor girl
HatefulWarrior 2 years ago
amazing story, yet I'm annoyed by the dramatic acting of Jovovich.
Aneasthetised 2 years ago
i want to see that battle
Szuchajek 2 years ago
babe.........
1019drummer 2 years ago
Maybe the military should try this tactic more often =) ...Ok, so the battle at Patay didn't go down quite this easy, but her presence did cause many English soldiers to lose courage & flee without a fight. She reformed the French army by building up morale & driving out the prostitutes & profanity in the camp. Was she in a driven, manic state? Very likely. Was it more than just a psyche disorder? Unquestionably. (read her history & bogus court trial) Crazy or not,...this was no ordinary girl.
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RICHbrowngrow02 2 years ago
@blindedbyglitter
Its was a mc chicken sandwich in the end.
bobslay12 1 year ago
@blindedbyglitter I think this movie shows very nicely the different scenario's that could've happened. Noone can be sure, but this movie glorifies and vilifies her.
Up to you to decide what you like best. Noone can tell you.
samipso 1 year ago
why do people keep saying shes crazy? how can a crazy woman lead a whole army back in the days and etc etc
why can't people accept that she may have been told by God to reconquer France? which was at the time one of the most holiest catholic countries ya know..
and there is no way to know today between Holy and scientific on how the world is made.. keep your mind open. she's the savior of France if you don't like her then be it and leave us alone but otherwise show some respect
FRApp44300 2 years ago 41
Hitler lead a nation too.. was he sane?.. God knows.. But was he convinced that his cause was righteous?.. yes..
gothless 2 years ago
nah she was probably psychotic
she heard voices telling her to kill the English
thats my kind of girl
glad they made her a Saint thats my kind of Saint
archiebunkerville 2 years ago
@FRApp44300 crazyness is no obstacle - hitler, napoleon and stalin have all been successful at waging war. and i really doubt any of them could pass psychological tests to get to army or to get a driving licence
besides, if she was led by god, why did god abondon her so abruptly before she could achieve any of her goals? did god really bother to intervene for a castle and a few forts? and why won't christians pray and be happy etc, why do you have to PREACH allll the time
sorenti 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 Maybe she had religion drummed into her head, when she was a kid; as most christians have had done to them ?
lfc011 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 True, the fact remains the fact - she was the savior.
Dchochua 1 year ago
@FRApp44300
Well, when the voices that say kill people come to you, we'll see just how godly you seem.
gaelwynmackwyn 1 year ago
@gaelwynmackwyn
The day you & other athiests are finally able to see the Demons standing behind you to tempt you to stand on a soap box & rant against God then we'll see how Godly your appear
IronicallyVague 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 because it´s a fucking stupid theory, it´s likely that she clinged to her imagination like alot of people do and especially did back then.
SaerdnaOoOoo 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 Agree totally. She was my great aunt (I'm related by one of her siblings), and I when people say she was crazy or a schitzofreniac really pisses me off. She lead the French army to victory after victory, and crazy people don't have that kind of success record. She was an intensly spiritual person, and she could have felt calling by God to lead France (which I think she did). She was only defeated because she was betrayed by the King of France.
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@Mosh4Yesh777
Just because you're related to her it doesn't mean you know she was telling the truth? Even if you're family are the most honest people on Earth, that was generations ago. She'd have been very different.
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod Well, I think she was. I don't think she had any reason to lie. She demonstrated many times that she was brilliant military tactitician, with no prior military training. Whatever you think of her, I don't think she was a schitzophreniac or crazy. A crazy person like that would not be able to do the things she did. I think she was telling the truth. Take it how you will, I don't really care. But, you were not there either, so maybe you are wrong.
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@Mosh4Yesh777
How can I be wrong? I was just criticising you, wasn't making any judgement myself. But I just find it hard to believe that her "vision" wasn't false. I mean, how many others have had such visions from a different God? What about the Prophet Muhammad? He was a great war leader himself so he couldn't be crazy but his vision was concerning a totally different religion!
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod Are you an athiest? That might be why you find it hard to believe. And if, that's the case, then we have very different world views. And as for me, it's rather easy to believe that she could have had visions from God. People are so eager to discount something supernatural, and sometimes the "natural" explanation takes more faith to believe than the other.The whole visions from a different god thing, is another matter entirely.
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@Mosh4Yesh777
"he whole visions from a different god thing, is another matter entirely." Explain please?
And to answer your question. I'm not sure. Based on my upbringing I've always considered my self a Christian but recently, meh i don't know. I mean, I follow all the morality and that and Christ is my idol, but I find the God stuff hard to believe. Do I have the right to call my self a Christian? cont...-->
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod Ok. Christianity teaches that the God of the Hebrews and Jesus Christ are one and the same, and no other god exists. Christians do not believe that Islam's god is the same as their's, so therefore any vision that is claimed to be from God, but says something contrary to what Jesus said is counted as a false vision that was made up, or a false prophet that recieves vision from drugs, or demons. Even people who claim to have visions in the Christian faith, have to be questioned. -->
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@Mosh4Yesh777
...Other than Christianity, I lean towards Humanism as opposed to Atheism. If I were to abandon my religion and not believe in any deity or anything spiritual but used the NEW Testament (and Christ's' teachings) as my guide through life...what would that make me? And sorry if I come across as narrow-minded. I just really struggle to understand such things.
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod Hmmm...if you followed just the morals of Jesusan nothing else, I guess you'd be a secular christian. I don't see you as small-minded in the least. You seek truth, and so you search. If you seek, you will find. :)
This might help you tho.Christians believe God can speak through anything. This includes others' actions, nature, and everyday circumstance. I've found my prayers answered in such ways when asking for guidance. So a "vision" she had might have been something like that.
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod So as far as I can tell, you are a humanist, but you follow Jesus' teachings as your guid. True Christians accept that Jesus is God incarnateand that He alone is the redemption of all mankind. I don't see you as narrow-minded at all, dude. You're searching, for truth. Seek, and u will find. :)
This might help you though. A vision doesn't always have to be a dream or trance as we se in movies and stuff like that....----> Continued
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@Mosh4Yesh777 A vision can be a simple answer to a prayer. But, God doesn't have to speek audibly (very rare). He can answer thru actions of others, thru nature, or just an everyday circumstance. I've prayed and asked, for guidance, and many times I found my answer in the least likely places. So in the case of Joan, she could have just been seeking answers to prayers and felt led to do what she did. Who knows? Maybe the church embellished a bit when they canonized her as a saint. ;)
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
@NormbrettaMod It would make you a follower of Christ by works rather than faith. According to traditional Christianity, the purpose of precepts in the Bible is only to show us how miserable and incompetent we are to follow them. It is God's perfection, which we can never achieve. Christianity is different from all othe religions in that it doesn't require seekers to earn their salvation. It is a supernatural act alone. The law can only be written inside -- not followed on our own.
jaelob 1 year ago
@FRApp44300
I'm French and Joan of arc is a heroin for us... but told by God??? Be serious...
Freez57fr 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 People say she was crazy because there was a European movie that portrayed her that way. It's a product of Post-modernism, which just can't stand to have a hero. They must deconstruct her somehow without evidence, and declare all the great things said about her over the generations, despite ample evidence, as simply myth. You're right, a delusional woman couldn't have attained the successes she did, and then answer so intelligently during trial. She's the real thing.
jaelob 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 dude or maybe she used god as an excuse who knows whole point is she was one hell of a woman god or not in she must have had massive charisma in been a quick wit to convince so many men to follow hr
chitownzfinesthustla 1 year ago
@FRApp44300 You're absolutely right. Regardless of whether she was making miracles or not, it's no mean feat for a teenage girl to lead armies. And I do doubt that in the age of inquisition one would have let a crazy person lead the army, especially of the state on the defensive :D
Dchochua 1 year ago
Whats up with the title? She didn't rout them the English left on their own accord. Exleast in this movie.
pleasuremuffin 2 years ago
The english of the time werent at all scared of the french army or men, They had beaten them time and time again, And until Joan showed up believed God was on their side,
Joan literally scared the utter shit out of them when she showed a possibility of being gods messenger
RackJacket 2 years ago
one detail, she was not scared or crying, she knew God was with her, and she knew her power
TheRachel33 2 years ago 5
...really? You think that God's interaction with anyone entails bestowing PCP-like invincibility on them?
electricbayonet2 2 years ago 2