Seeing the connections in terms of who statistically goes the route to jail, based on their backgrounds; yeah, the slavery point is not as far fetched as it seems before taking in the whole picture. Damn, that's really scary...
Prisoners get paid for doing those jobs. I'm not arguing with the point, but it's not really slavery. They're in jail for committing a crime(or crimes), and so they might as well work, and like I said, get paid for it.
@d3xo Slaves were stolen from their homeland. Prisoners murdered or stole from others. If they're slaves for a few years or the rest of their lives, so be it.
@WhoaKaela Most prisoners in American prisons are there for non-violent offenses (the reason prisons in America are overcrowded - there are disproportionate sentences for possession of drugs, even pot).
Even disregarding that, prisoners are constitutionally guaranteed protection from cruel and unusal punishment, which slavery is (it's not mandated by the court sentence). Yet it's implemented, quite hypocritically I might add, since items from foreign forced prison labor are illegal.
@WhoaKaela You're making the mistake of thinking all criminals had a clear choice, too. A lot of them are just people who had to turn to crime to make ends meet. Also, they aren't told their punishment will be slavery before they commit the crime. I just don't see how you can justify labor forced onto unsuspecting people.
@WhoaKaela Also, Pot is illegal in my country too, but you don't see people go to prison for it. Just community service or curfew - both of which are effective, non-prison deterrents. In contrast, putting people in prison for non-violence increases the rate of actual violent offenses after they get out (seriously!).
Not every crime must be met with prison. Especially not with prison that forces you to work for peanuts.
@d3xo I agree. Pot shouldn't be a criminal offense. But my whole point is it is not slavery in any way. Out in the real world these prisoners would need to be working anyway. They get paid, they have something productive to do, a lot of times they enjoy working. And they chose to commit the crime and in turn be there. It's not slavery.
Seeing the connections in terms of who statistically goes the route to jail, based on their backgrounds; yeah, the slavery point is not as far fetched as it seems before taking in the whole picture. Damn, that's really scary...
superfatamusic 5 days ago
Prisoners get paid for doing those jobs. I'm not arguing with the point, but it's not really slavery. They're in jail for committing a crime(or crimes), and so they might as well work, and like I said, get paid for it.
WhoaKaela 2 months ago
@WhoaKaela Slavery doesn't exactly mean no pay at all.
AbyssCrown 1 month ago
@WhoaKaela Slaves received minimal compensations for working well. And were punished for refusing to work.
Just like in American prisons.
d3xo 1 week ago
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WhoaKaela 1 week ago
@d3xo Slaves were stolen from their homeland. Prisoners murdered or stole from others. If they're slaves for a few years or the rest of their lives, so be it.
WhoaKaela 1 week ago
@WhoaKaela Most prisoners in American prisons are there for non-violent offenses (the reason prisons in America are overcrowded - there are disproportionate sentences for possession of drugs, even pot).
Even disregarding that, prisoners are constitutionally guaranteed protection from cruel and unusal punishment, which slavery is (it's not mandated by the court sentence). Yet it's implemented, quite hypocritically I might add, since items from foreign forced prison labor are illegal.
d3xo 1 week ago
@d3xo You know the law, you break it, you are imprisoned. I'm all for legalization of pot, but it's illegal now.
Slaves had no choice. It's very very different.
WhoaKaela 1 week ago
@WhoaKaela You're making the mistake of thinking all criminals had a clear choice, too. A lot of them are just people who had to turn to crime to make ends meet. Also, they aren't told their punishment will be slavery before they commit the crime. I just don't see how you can justify labor forced onto unsuspecting people.
d3xo 1 week ago
@WhoaKaela Also, Pot is illegal in my country too, but you don't see people go to prison for it. Just community service or curfew - both of which are effective, non-prison deterrents. In contrast, putting people in prison for non-violence increases the rate of actual violent offenses after they get out (seriously!).
Not every crime must be met with prison. Especially not with prison that forces you to work for peanuts.
d3xo 1 week ago
@d3xo I agree. Pot shouldn't be a criminal offense. But my whole point is it is not slavery in any way. Out in the real world these prisoners would need to be working anyway. They get paid, they have something productive to do, a lot of times they enjoy working. And they chose to commit the crime and in turn be there. It's not slavery.
WhoaKaela 1 week ago
First time I've ever seen a video with zero views.
themanwiththepan 2 months ago
@themanwiththepan lol. Thanks for the view then. :)
Nubfalconium 2 months ago 2
@themanwiththepan Nice try but it has 19
prezadent1 2 months ago
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And now it has 22. Point being, it had 0 when I posted that comment.
themanwiththepan 2 months ago
@themanwiththepan no, it NOW has 41, not 22. Why are you posting incorrect information?
prezadent1 2 months ago