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@AGeekWithAShotgun God is right and you can't win. You can run your mouth and impress yourself. There is nothing else you can do as an imbecile. Carry on until you run out of gas. ;)
I'm pretty fucking sure that IF your phoney deity existed, he/she/it would have no problem with people smoking pot. The Bible is a book of cruelty, the same can be said for the Torah and the Quran. It's all murder, bigotry, brainwashing, fear-mongering, war-mongering, condescending, immoral condescending bullshit.
Now, go rape some little Catholic choir boys or something, and keep your mythologies out of politics.
@musicmusicmusic97 There are many problems that arise from the enforcement of these laws. Not everyone thinks drugs are gross and their use of drugs in their own homes does not infringe on any of your rights. Think about the laws on smokings in public; smoking is banned in places in which it would affect you negatively, i.e., public places such as restaurants. Nevertheless, those people are allowed to smoke in their own home and in well-ventilated areas without its affecting you.
Actually, Penn, make that two people who've never tried marijuana in the whole United States. I've never used it, it smells like shit, but I still believe it should be legalized.
Please legalize marijuana. I live in georgia And need medical marijuana. The war on drugs is wasting our money for finding the people, paying the people to find them, house them in jail, then paying for jail guards to watch people that smoke marijuana? Stop wasting your money and time and bust a meth/coke lab
Putting people in jail and giving them a criminal record does not end their addiction. They will come out smoking cigarettes if they didn't smoke when they went in. I smoked pot for years and luckily I never got caught before i beat my addiction.
i was thinking today about when i was younger and how much i loved pepto bismal. mostly the little tablet kind. my mom said not to eat them. but they made me feel better, i liked the taste and they made me happy. i knew not to eat the whole box. now that i smoke it's the same thing. weed makes me feel better. medicinally and recreationally. i should be able to buy it, just like alcohol or medicine. regulate and educate.
I have no problem with legalizing Marijuana, if you use it sign a permanent opt out from Medicare. I don't want to pay for your health care, and don't believe I should have to fund your recreational drug usage. And before anyone says Marijuana will not harm someone one iota, sucking any form of smoke into your lungs will have detrimental side effects. So if you want it legalized good, you just don't get Medicare. As far as Medical Marijuana, I have no problem with refined THC in caplet form.
@sirloxelroy who are you to say how ppl can take thc for medicinal purpose? With that attitude you should be shipped to an island somewher with the rest of the dumb cunts who would try to impose on others essential freedoms, namely, the choice of what to put into your body. What, you don't think they should smoke for pain relief because it'll hurt their throat n lungs? Seriously who the fuck do you think you are? Yes any smoke is bad, but there are degrees, and weed smoke is at the shallow end.
@fatfacerick I am someone who has studied the situation and is logical. One, I would have a problem with any doctor that prescribed someone to take 2 pounds of Willow bark and call me in the morning, the problem is with controlled amounts, some of the bark will be higher in concentrations of salicylic acid than others, or a doctor that prescribes someone to smoke cigarettes because nicotine has been shown to help Alzheimer's patients. I am very supportive of Dr. Mechoulam's work in Israel.
@fatfacerick Two, as with any smoking, daily smoking over long periods of time has shown that marijuana has caused a lot of the same problems except for cancer that cigarettes have. This was discovered after a study in India of Shaivite devotees who smoked it daily. Three, from your cussing I would say you are not very logical about the situation.
@fatfacerick Four, I did not say I would stop you from putting whatever you want in your body, I just don't want to pay for your medicare. If you want to use THC in tablet form, that is fine with me, it means you are getting a controlled amount with fewer long term problems (see my previous posts), and should not have to opt out of Medicare. But because smoking it has more long term problems than THC in tablet form, and is far less controllable for the doses, you should then have to opt out.
Am I the only one who can't watch any of these videos? I see a countdown, the crackle announcement, and then it tells me that there's been an error. Can anyone tell me why that is?
Fucking decriminalize.... It's still illegal, but instead of jail time, there's just a fine for it. So pretty much, the state gains money from the fines instead of losing money from having to support prisoners. Problem solved.
Except for the part where you're making criminals out of innocent people. Would you say "problem solved" if someone said the same thing about alcohol?
@pamew Stop being a dumb cunt. Just be realistic. The day where marijuana will become totally legal in america is a long, long ways off. There's way too many conservative prohibitionists for that to really ever happen. But we can compromise with them. Putting a fine on that doesnt go on your record would work out just well. The prohibitionists would be happy, and good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized. Obviously, fully legal would be the best, but realistically,thats not happening
@simpleben09 Ironic that you'd call me dumb when your argument consists of an ad hominem fallacy.
The problem, in case you hadn't noticed, is that marijuana is illegal. Classing it as "problem solved" when your goal is to simply make it a different kind of illegal is not a long term or adequate solution. Now, either counter that claim, or drop the character attack fallacies. Balls in your court.
@simpleben09 It amazes me how people like you can just rationalize throwing people in jail over something they consume. People like you always come around though once someone gets you at a rave or concert and passes you a J. People who take drugs don't stop being people.
I once heard that it costs 32,000 tax payer dollars to house an inmate for a year. Everyone i know that smokes and that doesnt smoke both agree that it is harmless and I just a waste of time and money trying to stop people from using it.
I agree that the War on Drugs needs to end. But ppl need to realize that this can't happen over night. I think the first thing we need to do is de-criminalize it. We don't have to make it fully legal right from the get go cuz of various complications. I also have never done pot cuz i feel its unhealthy (like alcohol) but i don think we should be putting ppl in jail for it. If you want to do drugs that's your business, but im not going to come to your house and tell u to stop.
Aint no body ever died from weed. U may thought that nigga was dead, but he goin wake up in 3 hours hungry enough to eat up everything in ur whole god damn kitchen. An weed aint bad it aint even a drug its jus a plant that grows like that and if u so happen to set it pn fire there are some sitifacts. Hungry happy n sleepy. Drugs u got ta do shit chemicaly. U gotta bring to a boil, a baking soda, stir, i dont know the recipe im just sayin...
i enjoy watching this guy's video and all, but c'mon get real, he said "I dont even really know what a bong is" haha. that's a fucking lie and you know it. Although he may have been being a little facetious
@darkicyrose pretty much someone who believes if there isnt a victim then there isnt a crime, when it comes to drugs. ron paul is libertarian and is running for prez 2012 and wants marijuana federally legalized. and do you know glenn jacobs? a.k.a Kane from WWE? he too is libertarian but idk where he stands on legalization
Whoever wrote the blurb and did the tags; What's a libretarian? Is that someone who bases their political opinions on their strong feelings about libraries? I know that Penn's a Libertarian, but I've never heard of a libretarian before.
Asking a fascistic system that prohibit the plant in the first plays for reasons that are still actual, for legalisation is a bloody waste of time. You better learn to cooperate, then try to convince an institute on basis of reason, while this institue has a very clear bias and exclusive rights to kill. Turn your back on babylon, and cooperate with those you can trust.
@Vegetaotaku Are you ACTUALLY implying that America is the most free country there is? Are you actually saying that? I mean come on, ive seen those "stupid americans" videos but this... oh lawd.
@pedarikarhu Yes. America is the the most free country RIGHT NOW. There is no country like America besides Britain which is considered America's sister country because of the history and the similarity between our two countries. I'm not disagreeing with Penn by the way, I am a stoner and proud of it. But I love America and everything it stands for.
@Vegetaotaku By "free" you mean civil rights and liberties? USA is not on the top, no way. Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland and many other European nations are VERY LIBERAL compared to US.
I could also mention Somalia since its basically an anarchy, but that's not relevant in this case.
@skineater911 Okay so if "Dope" aka kkk Marijuana or THC or "Cannabis" should be legalized then I guess fully auto firearms should be legal in the US too. If you think crime and home invasions are going to go down after dope is legalize guess again. I want to protect my home from dope heads trying to steal my TV because they are Jones'ing for a fix. Occupy my street and you'll occupy a body bag.
@skineater911 Yeah the chronic does make you forget shit dude. If you lost your track check between your toes but I think its on your arm??? Sid that's all bud!!!
@VTGuffMstr well i probably forgot about our argument because i commented on this video like months ago not because chronic makes me forget shit, it does make me forget shit WHILE im high, but not if im sober, sorry
@VTGuffMstr Haha you fucking retard, what you think ppl can't get auto weapons & fucking drugs already? You're more of a problem being the kinda person who makes threats of murder. Nothing negative will come from legalising all drugs, across the board. Any negatives you come up with are bullshit, because the negatives will be there regardless, eg, theft, violence etc. The positives however would pile up like the dirty infected fungus rotting it's way thru your brain.
@fatfacerick First off Sid, crime rate will go up no question. So if these dopers are going to be breaking into my house or roaming my neighbor trying to steal shit because they are strung out losers looking for their next high because they are too stoned to get a job I have the right to defend myself. Who said anything about murder you rehab candidate? Oh and theft increases related to addicts will go up as a result of "legalizing" or as you say "legalising" drugs.
@VTGuffMstr That is a fallacy. Alcohol is legal and there was more drunk related crime during prohibition than before and after it. Let me ask you something have you ever had an addiction? The next point I'm making is that prison time does not stop people from taking drugs. When you have an addiction you have to satisfy it. The only way to stop an addiction is to overcome the need to take drugs. Punishments don't affect them. What works is family support and rehab clinics.
@VTGuffMstr The crime rate cannot go up any higher than it is now because criminals are the ones in complete control of all illegal drugs and are the most likely to do them. Criminals fill our high schools with them and get minors hooked at young ages when they wouldn't have access if they were regulated and controlled. We the people need to be in control not murderers and thugs. Legalization with education will lead to a more responsible and happy society just like it did with alcohol after 33.
@VTGuffMstr More prejudice. Stop demonizing people. You're as bad as a racist. You might like pot if you ever try it. And yes all guns are out of the government's jurisdiction. I believe in my society and I know that if the populace is armed the crime rate always goes down because bully's and criminals don't have an edge anymore. My friend had his store broken into a while back by armed thugs. He pulled out his shot gun and shot them dead saving himself and the register clerk. Guns protect.
@AllStarBugler That is in english adn is clearly understandable you dumbfuck... Dope is taken from a different part of the plant and formed in a different way to weed
High guys! if you're a marijuana enthusiast please do me a quick favor and sign this petition to legalize marijuana for Maine, this is not just to legalize marijuana either, this is for the sake of humanity, here in Maine if this passes we will be able to utilize industrial hemp and all it's benefits. Over Grow!
@RonBurgundy - Cannabis, like anything else, can be used or abused. The way I see it is it is up to the individual to decide how to use it. The plant itself is not harmful and that comes from the American Medical Association and my personal Doctor. I'm sorry to hear about your brothers, but I have to wonder if it was really because of cannabis was it their personality that caused the problem. If marijuana didn't exist, they may have used something else (alcohol?) and still ended dropping out.
@RonBurgundy - Where did you get the information proving that it has the opposite effect? I believe that getting busted and locked up is what has the opposite effect on one's life. I think a lot of people base their opinions about what marijuana does or does not do based on their observations of very small groups of peoples or even individuals. If that individual uses it, and has social problems, the marijuana gets blamed. I belive most people do not have problems with it based on my experience.
@PracticedMan Here: The Lancet, W. Hall et al., "Adverse health effects of non-medical cannabis use.", University of Queensland, 2009 Oct 17;374(9698):1383-91.
Also, both of my brothers dropped out of university after smoking pot since their grades dropped significantly, which is a complete correlation to the above study.
I find it kinda hard to follow laws that say its okay to kill an unborn child but not okay to smoke something completely natural and much safer than cigarettes.
Help spread the word that the people of the United States of America want a stop to the drug war that is overcrowding our prisons and jails and putting a strain not only on our economy but the world economy. Every subscription is another voice and every voice is another step forward to a prosperous America.
According to the CDC in 1998 tobacco killed 25 times more Americans than illegal drugs combined i.e 418 690 tobacco deaths to 16 926 for illegal drugs. And how many deaths come from the illegal plant marijuana? Probably 0..
@LRtrain1 I think a long term user understands the long term effects better than anyone. would you trust an experienced plumber or someone who's watched people plumbing before?
This is a part of the shift from lies to revealing the actual TRUTH.. an even better idea than just legalizing it is to surpass money all together.. use technology for its true purpose, to free us from enslavement... resonation? Good, check out The Venus Project.. check it out GOOD because I'm sure its on a new level now.
"RICK SIMPSON is the leading patient scientist to have explored the use of Cannabis extracts to treat Cancers. It was because of his pioneering work & anecdotal reports from patient scientists from all over the world that Cannabis Science has been working with & educating patients."
Dr. Melamede, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs / Pres. & CEO, Cannabis Science / Program Administrator, Phoenix Tears Foundation / Scientific Advisor, The Unconventional Foundation for Autism
@IHavAUTubeSadly Have you ever heard of freedom? How bout separation of church and state? If you want God, thats fine, but you do not have the right to restrict other peoples freedom with your religion. You want to fix violence in our communities? LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, and stop letting criminals sell it and cause violence in the streets. Let a business distribute it safely with no criminals involved, and all the violence would GO AWAY! Listen to what science says, not government lies!
@mekanova although if businesses sell marijuana, most likely, they would use harmful addictive chemicals in it as a new ingredient for business instead of them selling it purely. I say dont legalize it, but discriminalize it. Its not the right of our corrupt government to decide what we consume in our own bodies.
@samuriguy909 First of all, its decriminalization. And that is a terrible solution. If you knew what it was you would think so too. Decrim. means that its still illegal to posses and grow, and you can still be fined and have your pot seized, just no permanent criminal record. If it were legal, businesses couldn't put other chemicals in it, because if they did, people wouldn't buy it from them, they would grow it themselves, purely. Legalization is the only solution that will solve this problem.
@samuriguy909 Exactly. Seeds easily available to keep other growers accountable. If their quality isn't good enough, I bet we could do better on our own. I would definitely get into gardening then. I hope one day we will be allowed to do that in our "free" country.
Marijuana is the safest drug there is. I smoke on a daily basis and was still able to obtain a college degree in business. I say marijuana should be legalized. Anyone who says it harmful and should remain illegalized is completely absurd. On a side note. I have never went on to try the "harder" drugs. The so called "Gateway Efffect" has been caused by prohibition because these "drug cartels" have control over this market. They don't care about selling to kids underage.
For the US to get nation wide approval of marijuana we need to stop focusing on West and East coast but also on the midwest and the south. These areas have the lowest approval ratings of marijuana about 30-40% while the west and east coast have a 45-50% approval. BUT I do think we should first spread marijuana truth in California first since they were so close to legalization anyways.
Someone seems angry. Google: sarcasm. I was saying I'm impressed Penn never smoked weed as I can't say that and I am not the same person I would have been because of it. Don't know if I would have been better had chosen differently. Now, we'll never know. BTW Did someone flush your weed? Maybe you should take time to enhance and chilax. or vice versa. If this is the attitude you get when you are high, need ta check yo self. Because, You don't know me at all.
@bertrude123 No, they're not. A glass of red wine a night is very good for your health and has no negative implications. The same can't be said about marijuana.
@RonBurgundy161 Most people that drink alcohol do not just have a glass of wine a night. And you might want to check the death statistics per year on marijuana vs. alcohol. There is not enough toxicity in marijuana to overdose on it and kill yourself, yet people have died from alcohol poisoning in one night. Alcohol affects every single organ in your body. A glass of wine a night is fine, but marijuana is used for treating diseases, so alcohol doesn't win the "health" argument.
@bertrude123 The fact is, that people DO, which completely destroys the argument. Also, it's impossible to determine if anyone has died from smoking pot. How the hell can someone know that if someone dies from lung cancer, it was the fact the smoking marijuana is a known carcinogen and increases the chances of developing the cancer? It's impossible.
@RonBurgundy161 What about those who have a heart condition and can't drink alcohol? And I'm not saying that marijuana is completely harmless. Every drug has its dangers and risks. My point is that marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, yet people claim that it should remain illegal. The fact is that alcohol kills more people per year than any drug except for cigarettes. And it's not impossible to determine the causes of lung cancer. Doctors aren't stupid. They figure it out.
@bertrude123 Those people are irrelevant...since they don't drink at all, which doesn't comply with the original posters argument.
The argument that weed to less harmful than alcohol, therefore it should be legal is one of the worst I've ever heard. Studies in the U.K suggest that alcohol is more harmful than cocaine and heroine...should we legalise those too?
@bertrude123 The fact is that it IS almost impossible to determine what caused some cancers. Marijuana increase the chances of developing lung cancer -- FACT. Now explain to me how the hell they can possibly know a death was caused by an INCREASED chance of developing lung cancer. Meticulous research costing thousands of dollars MAY come to a definitive conclusion, but no way are doctors prepared to do that for each individual. Therefore, they will never know for most people.
@RonBurgundy161 Wrong again. Many studies have been done to examine the risk of lung cancer associated with marijuana. It was concluded that weed does NOT elevate one's chances of developing lung cancer due to the presence of THC which has been found to prevent the spread of cancerous cells. This research has been done repeatedly. You are reaching for an argument that is not there. Sorry.
Also, cocaine and heroine can cause death from an overdose. Marijuana does not. Bad comparison.
@bertrude123 This study following states otherwise, marijuana is a known carcinogen. Please read at least the abstract and don't dismiss it out of hand like many others
The European Respiratory Journal, R. Beasley et al., "Cannabis use and risk of lung cancer: a case--control study.", Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, February 1st, 2008.
Err...where did I compare marijuana with cocaine and heroine? I was comparing it with alcohol to create an analogy to refute your fallacious argument
@RonBurgundy161 There have been a few cases that suggest marijuana raises lung cancer risk. However, the most studies and findings (including the latest) have concluded otherwise. If people are dying from lung cancer from marijuana, how come we don't see it? How come there are no statistics on it? Don't tell me that "it's impossible to know" because we can trace it to tobacco use without any problems.
You can't compare cocaine/heroin with alcohol only and expect it to be a valid point.
@RonBurgundy161 Worse than tobacco? Wow, if that were true, we'd see thousands of deaths per year from smoking marijuana. For all the years that weed has been around, the one thing that's lacking in the lung cancer correlation is evidence, meaning actual cases of lung cancer. I've found them, but the people also smoked cigarettes. I've never found a case where someone had cancer just from marijuana. You'd think that we'd have seen enough of it by now.
@bertrude123 Wow...did you seriously just ignore those 80+ peer reviewed articles providing the evidence that there is a strong correlation between marijuana and lung cancer? Actually to be honest, it doesn't surprise me.
As a response to your first claim, using deodorant increases the chances of developing breast cancer, but how many death certificates do you see saying: "Death by too much use of deodorant". Apply the same thing to marijuana, this is what I've been trying to explain to you.
@RonBurgundy161 ha your logic from what I have been reading is "genius". Not so much.. If you haven't been drinking so much alcohol and smoking all those cigarettes you might have some brain cells to figure it out. Its all ass backwards and you know it. It doesn't make any sense that alcohol and tobacco are legal and marijuana isn't.
@RonBurgundy161 No, I did not ignore the articles. You're ignoring the lack of hard data. And if you're so convinced that smoking marijuana causes lung cancer, what do you say to those who use a vaporizer to inhale it? Or those who mix it in with food?
Back to our original argument. If one person drinks a glass of wine a day, and another takes one hit of marijuana per day, nothing significant will happen to either of them. Increase the usage for both, and alcohol becomes the bigger threat.
@bertrude123 Are you fucking kidding me?! Do you have any idea what the peer review process is? As I've mentioned, only 10% of scientific articles ever get published, and you're telling me that EIGHTY articles doesn't constitute as 'hard data'. To a research scientists that would constitute as rock solid proof.
Besides, you clearly missed the article that concluded that smoking one joint is equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes, pertaining to lung cancer.
@RonBurgundy161 By "hard data," I mean lung cancer cases that didn't involve tobacco use, family history, asbestos, etc. Why is there no recorded case of someone having lung cancer solely by marijuana use? Why is it so easy to trace it to tobacco use, but not marijuana? The studies claim it "may" lead to cancer, but are inconclusive beyond that. The end result is that marijuana officially kills zero people per year.
You've yet to justify keeping marijuana illegal when alcohol is not.
@bertrude123 Look at that, more evidence you didn't read the peer reviewed articles. The New Zealand study, which I even linked to you states explicitly that they took into account the use of tobacco and other factors and deducted it.
How many times do I have to respond to your second claim? I've told you at least twice now, I refuse to state my response any more. Just because you're ignoring it, it doesn't mean I didn't make the claim.
@bertrude123 I've yet to justify keeping marijuana illegal because that's not my position, and I've never stated it was my position. I'm for the legalisation of medical marijuana, but I'm someone who acknowledges both the negative and positive effects of smoking pot, which is rare to find.
@RonBurgundy161 Okay, so I had posted a previous comment, then deleted it after seeing this. Here's my point: Marijuana should be legal. Yes, there are risks with it, just like any drug. The hypocrisy has to do with the fact that alcohol is a far more dangerous drug. It doesn't matter how much or how little you consume it, the potential danger is there, and it far outweighs marijuana. I still disagree with the lung cancer argument, but that's from the lack of lung cancer cases.
@bertrude123 Why do you justify your position by mentioning that there are non peer reviewed articles that support your position, but when I present 80+ PEER REVIEWED published articles, all of a sudden it doesn't constitute as sufficient evidence? Make your mind up, that's called bias.
@bertrude123 P.S. Would you care to retract the statement: "There have been a few cases that suggest marijuana raises lung cancer risk. However, the most studies and findings (including the latest) have concluded otherwise."? I've provided the evidence that destroys your lack of research, hopefully you will have the honesty to admit being willfully ignorant.
@RonBurgundy161 I was referring to studies and because there are lots of them coming from both sides, I've now been actively searching for documented proof (not statistical analysis) of individuals with lung cancer solely from marijuana. I haven't found anything, and the fact that you keep stating "it's impossible to know" is just a cop-out way for you to keep defending your side. And you call me willfully ignorant. I'm not the one saying that it makes perfect sense that pot's illegal.
@bertrude123 To put this into perspective for you, eating red meat increases the chances of developing cancer. I hope that's something we can both agree on, now find me a case of someone dieing from eating too much red meat. You won't be able to do it. The reason we know
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Premier112 3 weeks ago
Legalize all drugs ever.
casualdissent 1 month ago
Why don't we just force convicted pot smokers to watch Penn and Teller comedy routines?
AtheistSpanker 1 month ago
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But if we did that, the pot smokers would learn valuable political philosophy and critical thinking skills from Penn and Teller!
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun Sure, that's what they do in your native country Haiti and look how well they're doing.
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AtheistSpanker
Native country Haiti?
I'm French-America. Cannabis is illegal in Haiti. What point are you trying to make?
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun Don't worry about it. As long as your head remains firmly tucked up your ass you won't be able to see anything anyway. :D
Carry on as you are dipshit.
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AtheistSpanker
My head is up my ass?
You're the one tied to a Bible-belt, narrow-minded bigot.
Good job dropping your pointless incoherent argument, you would've made even more of a full of yourself if you defended it.
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun God is right and you can't win. You can run your mouth and impress yourself. There is nothing else you can do as an imbecile. Carry on until you run out of gas. ;)
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AtheistSpanker
God is right about what?
Pot?
I'm pretty fucking sure that IF your phoney deity existed, he/she/it would have no problem with people smoking pot. The Bible is a book of cruelty, the same can be said for the Torah and the Quran. It's all murder, bigotry, brainwashing, fear-mongering, war-mongering, condescending, immoral condescending bullshit.
Now, go rape some little Catholic choir boys or something, and keep your mythologies out of politics.
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun You poor little imbecile. :D
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AtheistSpanker
Nice ad hominem
Please try again
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun You poor little imbecile. :D
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AtheistSpanker
Don't you have a candle to blow out or something?
AGeekWithAShotgun 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun Calm down imbecile. :D
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun That's better. Now go take a nap. ;)
AtheistSpanker 2 weeks ago
uhh..why don't you just legalize marijuana for medical issues? seriously. and ps drugs are gross.
musicmusicmusic97 1 month ago
@musicmusicmusic97 There are many problems that arise from the enforcement of these laws. Not everyone thinks drugs are gross and their use of drugs in their own homes does not infringe on any of your rights. Think about the laws on smokings in public; smoking is banned in places in which it would affect you negatively, i.e., public places such as restaurants. Nevertheless, those people are allowed to smoke in their own home and in well-ventilated areas without its affecting you.
PolitcalIslam 4 weeks ago
Actually, Penn, make that two people who've never tried marijuana in the whole United States. I've never used it, it smells like shit, but I still believe it should be legalized.
EbolaRocks08 2 months ago
@EbolaRocks08 smells like shit? haha you must have been smelling some schwag
satanshappyplace666 2 months ago
Shit, I am so high right now.
tracygonecrazy1 2 months ago
it should NEVER have been made ILLEGAL in the first place..
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WeAskThePeople 2 months ago
Please legalize marijuana. I live in georgia And need medical marijuana. The war on drugs is wasting our money for finding the people, paying the people to find them, house them in jail, then paying for jail guards to watch people that smoke marijuana? Stop wasting your money and time and bust a meth/coke lab
TankPrank 2 months ago
Did Teller ever smoke, Penn?
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make it available in my country!!! im only over the pond! :(
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Putting people in jail and giving them a criminal record does not end their addiction. They will come out smoking cigarettes if they didn't smoke when they went in. I smoked pot for years and luckily I never got caught before i beat my addiction.
Luigi84289 2 months ago
i was thinking today about when i was younger and how much i loved pepto bismal. mostly the little tablet kind. my mom said not to eat them. but they made me feel better, i liked the taste and they made me happy. i knew not to eat the whole box. now that i smoke it's the same thing. weed makes me feel better. medicinally and recreationally. i should be able to buy it, just like alcohol or medicine. regulate and educate.
emailtheoldies 2 months ago
@litsquad fuck them
killercookie777 3 months ago
I have no problem with legalizing Marijuana, if you use it sign a permanent opt out from Medicare. I don't want to pay for your health care, and don't believe I should have to fund your recreational drug usage. And before anyone says Marijuana will not harm someone one iota, sucking any form of smoke into your lungs will have detrimental side effects. So if you want it legalized good, you just don't get Medicare. As far as Medical Marijuana, I have no problem with refined THC in caplet form.
sirloxelroy 3 months ago
@sirloxelroy who are you to say how ppl can take thc for medicinal purpose? With that attitude you should be shipped to an island somewher with the rest of the dumb cunts who would try to impose on others essential freedoms, namely, the choice of what to put into your body. What, you don't think they should smoke for pain relief because it'll hurt their throat n lungs? Seriously who the fuck do you think you are? Yes any smoke is bad, but there are degrees, and weed smoke is at the shallow end.
fatfacerick 3 months ago
@fatfacerick I am someone who has studied the situation and is logical. One, I would have a problem with any doctor that prescribed someone to take 2 pounds of Willow bark and call me in the morning, the problem is with controlled amounts, some of the bark will be higher in concentrations of salicylic acid than others, or a doctor that prescribes someone to smoke cigarettes because nicotine has been shown to help Alzheimer's patients. I am very supportive of Dr. Mechoulam's work in Israel.
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sirloxelroy 3 months ago
@fatfacerick Two, as with any smoking, daily smoking over long periods of time has shown that marijuana has caused a lot of the same problems except for cancer that cigarettes have. This was discovered after a study in India of Shaivite devotees who smoked it daily. Three, from your cussing I would say you are not very logical about the situation.
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@sirloxelroy fatfacerick is an ignorant moron who shouldn't be discussing something he knows nothing about.
Luigi84289 2 months ago
@fatfacerick Four, I did not say I would stop you from putting whatever you want in your body, I just don't want to pay for your medicare. If you want to use THC in tablet form, that is fine with me, it means you are getting a controlled amount with fewer long term problems (see my previous posts), and should not have to opt out of Medicare. But because smoking it has more long term problems than THC in tablet form, and is far less controllable for the doses, you should then have to opt out.
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Luigi84289 2 months ago
I thought *I* was the last person on earth who'd never taken marijuana! LOL And I'm completely in favor of legalizing it, too! :D
frithar 3 months ago
Am I the only one who can't watch any of these videos? I see a countdown, the crackle announcement, and then it tells me that there's been an error. Can anyone tell me why that is?
ifthisisthelife 4 months ago
@ifthisisthelife You are not alone.
None of the Penn-Points will play for me thru Crackle
griffindance 3 months ago in playlist Season 2
Fucking decriminalize.... It's still illegal, but instead of jail time, there's just a fine for it. So pretty much, the state gains money from the fines instead of losing money from having to support prisoners. Problem solved.
simpleben09 5 months ago
@simpleben09 "problem solved".
Except for the part where you're making criminals out of innocent people. Would you say "problem solved" if someone said the same thing about alcohol?
pamew 4 months ago in playlist Season 2 9
@pamew Stop being a dumb cunt. Just be realistic. The day where marijuana will become totally legal in america is a long, long ways off. There's way too many conservative prohibitionists for that to really ever happen. But we can compromise with them. Putting a fine on that doesnt go on your record would work out just well. The prohibitionists would be happy, and good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized. Obviously, fully legal would be the best, but realistically,thats not happening
simpleben09 4 months ago
@simpleben09 "Just be realistic"
This coming from the guy who thinks that keeping something as a criminal offence is "problem solved". Way to miss the point.
"There's way too many conservative prohibitionists for that to really ever happen"
Hardly a convincing argument. At one time, the majority supported slavery.
"and good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized."
Except for the part where they're discriminated against and made criminals of.
pamew 4 months ago
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@simpleben09 "Just be realistic"
This coming from the guy who thinks that keeping something as a criminal offence is "problem solved". Way to miss the point.
"There's way too many conservative prohibitionists for that to really ever happen"
Hardly a convincing argument. At one time, the majority supported slavery.
"and good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized."
Except for the part where they're discriminated against and made criminals of.
pamew 4 months ago
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@simpleben09 "Just be realistic"
This coming from the guy who thinks that keeping something as a criminal offence is "problem solved". Way to miss the point.
"There's way too many conservative prohibitionists for that to really ever happen"
Hardly a convincing argument. At one time, the majority supported slavery.
"and good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized."
Except for the part where they're discriminated against and made criminals of.
pamew 4 months ago
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@simpleben09 "Just be realistic"
Says the guy who thinks that making criminals out of innocent people is "problem solved."
"Putting a fine on that doesnt go on your record would work out just well. "
Yeah, I mean it's fine to discriminate against people who've done nothing objectionable SOMETIMES right? Oh, right, no it isn't.
"good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized"
Except for being classed as criminals and being discrimination victims.
pamew 4 months ago
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@simpleben09 "Just be realistic"
Says the guy who thinks that making criminals out of innocent people is "problem solved."
"Putting a fine on that doesnt go on your record would work out just well. "
Yeah, I mean it's fine to discriminate against people who've done nothing objectionable SOMETIMES right? Oh, right, no it isn't.
"good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized"
Except for being classed as criminals and being discrimination victims.
pamew 4 months ago
"Just be realistic"
Says the guy who thinks that making criminals out of innocent people is "problem solved."
"Putting a fine on that doesnt go on your record would work out just well. "
Yeah, I mean it's fine to discriminate against people who've done nothing objectionable SOMETIMES right? Oh, right, no it isn't.
"good people who enjoy pot wouldn't be victimized"
Except for being classed as criminals and being discrimination victims.
pamew 4 months ago
@pamew You really are too dumb to function, aren't you?
simpleben09 4 months ago
@simpleben09 Ironic that you'd call me dumb when your argument consists of an ad hominem fallacy.
The problem, in case you hadn't noticed, is that marijuana is illegal. Classing it as "problem solved" when your goal is to simply make it a different kind of illegal is not a long term or adequate solution. Now, either counter that claim, or drop the character attack fallacies. Balls in your court.
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@simpleben09 It amazes me how people like you can just rationalize throwing people in jail over something they consume. People like you always come around though once someone gets you at a rave or concert and passes you a J. People who take drugs don't stop being people.
Luigi84289 2 months ago
Penn's Straight Edge
TheRadicaldude978 5 months ago
You got My vote!
DoctorScuba 5 months ago
Legalize All Drugs!!
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TokenStudios 5 months ago
I once heard that it costs 32,000 tax payer dollars to house an inmate for a year. Everyone i know that smokes and that doesnt smoke both agree that it is harmless and I just a waste of time and money trying to stop people from using it.
RazorHeadMetal 5 months ago
So, who wants to light up a bowl with Teller?
IoEstasCedonta 6 months ago
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tixan 6 months ago
Does anyone actually believe Penn doesn't know what a bong looks like?
flyboy041786 6 months ago
I agree that the War on Drugs needs to end. But ppl need to realize that this can't happen over night. I think the first thing we need to do is de-criminalize it. We don't have to make it fully legal right from the get go cuz of various complications. I also have never done pot cuz i feel its unhealthy (like alcohol) but i don think we should be putting ppl in jail for it. If you want to do drugs that's your business, but im not going to come to your house and tell u to stop.
Sumoto999 6 months ago
wasn't hemp banned because its better to make clothes with than cotton?
leerman22 6 months ago
Aint no body ever died from weed. U may thought that nigga was dead, but he goin wake up in 3 hours hungry enough to eat up everything in ur whole god damn kitchen. An weed aint bad it aint even a drug its jus a plant that grows like that and if u so happen to set it pn fire there are some sitifacts. Hungry happy n sleepy. Drugs u got ta do shit chemicaly. U gotta bring to a boil, a baking soda, stir, i dont know the recipe im just sayin...
dopeniggazz 6 months ago
@dopeniggazz wtf is sitifacts?
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francisandjohn 6 months ago
Marijuana isn't harmful at all, and drugs should be legal. If someone wants to get addicted to crack, it's their life, we don't have a say in it.
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DaKurlz1 6 months ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
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DPowellGMG276 7 months ago
I haven't smoked pot either penn not once, but i believe they should legalize it too.
Johannson6990 7 months ago
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Johannson6990 7 months ago
Penn has awesome taste in watches!!
Franck Muller?
SchafeyWafey 7 months ago
Marijuana is the healer of all things.
MisterWite1 7 months ago
i enjoy watching this guy's video and all, but c'mon get real, he said "I dont even really know what a bong is" haha. that's a fucking lie and you know it. Although he may have been being a little facetious
Wonderbread8909 7 months ago
Words cannot describe the shame i feel living as a human on earth without the right to put whatever i want in my own body.
Philter123456789 7 months ago 2
@darkicyrose pretty much someone who believes if there isnt a victim then there isnt a crime, when it comes to drugs. ron paul is libertarian and is running for prez 2012 and wants marijuana federally legalized. and do you know glenn jacobs? a.k.a Kane from WWE? he too is libertarian but idk where he stands on legalization
mettalfreakk13 8 months ago
Whoever wrote the blurb and did the tags; What's a libretarian? Is that someone who bases their political opinions on their strong feelings about libraries? I know that Penn's a Libertarian, but I've never heard of a libretarian before.
darkicyrose 8 months ago
Asking a fascistic system that prohibit the plant in the first plays for reasons that are still actual, for legalisation is a bloody waste of time. You better learn to cooperate, then try to convince an institute on basis of reason, while this institue has a very clear bias and exclusive rights to kill. Turn your back on babylon, and cooperate with those you can trust.
TerrierBram 8 months ago
@TerrierBram Because America is a totally fascist state. Poor you, living in the most free country in the world.
Vegetaotaku 6 months ago
@Vegetaotaku Are you trying to Imply America is the most free country...? Or is this sarcasm?
AngryBenNG 6 months ago
@Vegetaotaku Are you ACTUALLY implying that America is the most free country there is? Are you actually saying that? I mean come on, ive seen those "stupid americans" videos but this... oh lawd.
pedarikarhu 6 months ago
@pedarikarhu Yes. America is the the most free country RIGHT NOW. There is no country like America besides Britain which is considered America's sister country because of the history and the similarity between our two countries. I'm not disagreeing with Penn by the way, I am a stoner and proud of it. But I love America and everything it stands for.
Vegetaotaku 5 months ago
@Vegetaotaku By "free" you mean civil rights and liberties? USA is not on the top, no way. Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland and many other European nations are VERY LIBERAL compared to US.
I could also mention Somalia since its basically an anarchy, but that's not relevant in this case.
pedarikarhu 5 months ago
@Vegetaotaku Similarity between the UK and US?
US: Secular republic with an overwhelming Christian majority political influence.
UK: Crown state with a state church with little to no Christian political influence.
I'm failing to see it.
Also possession of weed in the UK is a much more severe offence typically :\ sucks to be a British stoner!
pamew 4 months ago in playlist Season 2
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skineater911 8 months ago 19
@skineater911 Okay so if "Dope" aka kkk Marijuana or THC or "Cannabis" should be legalized then I guess fully auto firearms should be legal in the US too. If you think crime and home invasions are going to go down after dope is legalize guess again. I want to protect my home from dope heads trying to steal my TV because they are Jones'ing for a fix. Occupy my street and you'll occupy a body bag.
VTGuffMstr 3 months ago
@VTGuffMstr i cant even answer you back because i lost track of this commenting, how long ago did i made a comment? also, educate me on what i said
skineater911 3 months ago
@skineater911 Yeah the chronic does make you forget shit dude. If you lost your track check between your toes but I think its on your arm??? Sid that's all bud!!!
VTGuffMstr 3 months ago
@VTGuffMstr well i probably forgot about our argument because i commented on this video like months ago not because chronic makes me forget shit, it does make me forget shit WHILE im high, but not if im sober, sorry
skineater911 3 months ago
@VTGuffMstr Haha you fucking retard, what you think ppl can't get auto weapons & fucking drugs already? You're more of a problem being the kinda person who makes threats of murder. Nothing negative will come from legalising all drugs, across the board. Any negatives you come up with are bullshit, because the negatives will be there regardless, eg, theft, violence etc. The positives however would pile up like the dirty infected fungus rotting it's way thru your brain.
fatfacerick 3 months ago
@fatfacerick First off Sid, crime rate will go up no question. So if these dopers are going to be breaking into my house or roaming my neighbor trying to steal shit because they are strung out losers looking for their next high because they are too stoned to get a job I have the right to defend myself. Who said anything about murder you rehab candidate? Oh and theft increases related to addicts will go up as a result of "legalizing" or as you say "legalising" drugs.
VTGuffMstr 3 months ago
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@VTGuffMstr That is a fallacy. Alcohol is legal and there was more drunk related crime during prohibition than before and after it. Let me ask you something have you ever had an addiction? The next point I'm making is that prison time does not stop people from taking drugs. When you have an addiction you have to satisfy it. The only way to stop an addiction is to overcome the need to take drugs. Punishments don't affect them. What works is family support and rehab clinics.
Luigi84289 2 months ago
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@VTGuffMstr The crime rate cannot go up any higher than it is now because criminals are the ones in complete control of all illegal drugs and are the most likely to do them. Criminals fill our high schools with them and get minors hooked at young ages when they wouldn't have access if they were regulated and controlled. We the people need to be in control not murderers and thugs. Legalization with education will lead to a more responsible and happy society just like it did with alcohol after 33.
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VTGuffMstr 3 months ago
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@VTGuffMstr More prejudice. Stop demonizing people. You're as bad as a racist. You might like pot if you ever try it. And yes all guns are out of the government's jurisdiction. I believe in my society and I know that if the populace is armed the crime rate always goes down because bully's and criminals don't have an edge anymore. My friend had his store broken into a while back by armed thugs. He pulled out his shot gun and shot them dead saving himself and the register clerk. Guns protect.
Luigi84289 2 months ago
Please stop callin cannabis "dope".
When you call cannbis "dope", you are NOT helping our cause.
Heroin is "dope".
Ya dig?
Thanks, Penn!
AllStarBugler 8 months ago 45
@AllStarBugler By calling heroin "dope" you're not helping the cause of opiate legalization...
drewmandan 6 months ago
@drewmandan One relegalization at a time............
AllStarBugler 6 months ago
@AllStarBugler heroine isnt dope? Lol dope is taken from the same plant as green, but completely different from it
SurvivalistPro 6 months ago
@SurvivalistPro wanna try that again in English?
AllStarBugler 6 months ago
@AllStarBugler That is in english adn is clearly understandable you dumbfuck... Dope is taken from a different part of the plant and formed in a different way to weed
SurvivalistPro 6 months ago
@SurvivalistPro You can't spell, you can't even construct a coherant sentence and you resort to insults. What are you, 12 years old?
AllStarBugler 6 months ago
@AllStarBugler Actually I can spell perfectly.. Don't need you to try and act smart Mr Spelling police officer, sir..
SurvivalistPro 6 months ago
@AllStarBugler
Heroin should be legal as well.
thejmanw234 5 months ago
@thejmanw234 I agree
AllStarBugler 5 months ago
@AllStarBugler Seriously! In my mind,
Pot, weed, cannibis, hash=Marijuana
Smack, dope=Heroin
simpleben09 5 months ago
The Hypocrisy of cannabis prohibition
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AllStarBugler 8 months ago
Free Marc Emery
slayer6010 8 months ago
Marijuana should be legalize and I don't even smoke Marijuana.
QWERTYEXOTIC72 8 months ago
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theBIGreekgeek 8 months ago
High guys! if you're a marijuana enthusiast please do me a quick favor and sign this petition to legalize marijuana for Maine, this is not just to legalize marijuana either, this is for the sake of humanity, here in Maine if this passes we will be able to utilize industrial hemp and all it's benefits. Over Grow!
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SUPERLEM0NHAZE 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy - Cannabis, like anything else, can be used or abused. The way I see it is it is up to the individual to decide how to use it. The plant itself is not harmful and that comes from the American Medical Association and my personal Doctor. I'm sorry to hear about your brothers, but I have to wonder if it was really because of cannabis was it their personality that caused the problem. If marijuana didn't exist, they may have used something else (alcohol?) and still ended dropping out.
PracticedMan 8 months ago
lol dude go do some magic.
BipolarPuffin 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy - Where did you get the information proving that it has the opposite effect? I believe that getting busted and locked up is what has the opposite effect on one's life. I think a lot of people base their opinions about what marijuana does or does not do based on their observations of very small groups of peoples or even individuals. If that individual uses it, and has social problems, the marijuana gets blamed. I belive most people do not have problems with it based on my experience.
PracticedMan 8 months ago
@PracticedMan Here: The Lancet, W. Hall et al., "Adverse health effects of non-medical cannabis use.", University of Queensland, 2009 Oct 17;374(9698):1383-91.
Also, both of my brothers dropped out of university after smoking pot since their grades dropped significantly, which is a complete correlation to the above study.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
Amen bro great points on the vid. I like cn someone who don't smoke not bn an asshole like the rest of the stuck-up straight edge ppl.
jjordan1000 9 months ago
Weed is good for you
grig24x 9 months ago 3
@grig24x To some extent... It is harmful but no way near alcohol, should be legal
Xentacle 9 months ago
I find it kinda hard to follow laws that say its okay to kill an unborn child but not okay to smoke something completely natural and much safer than cigarettes.
Gamabyu 9 months ago
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USLegalizeMovement 9 months ago
hey you guys wanna hear a funny joke?
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samuriguy909 9 months ago
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According to the CDC in 1998 tobacco killed 25 times more Americans than illegal drugs combined i.e 418 690 tobacco deaths to 16 926 for illegal drugs. And how many deaths come from the illegal plant marijuana? Probably 0..
Kr0n1k4Lyfe 9 months ago
I've smoked marijuana since I was 15 and I'm now 55. Wow, 40 years of smoking!
Now, I'm healthy, happy, make a good living, have a nice family, and thank God I've never got caught with it.
I blame marijuana for making my life a happier place than it would have been without it!
PracticedMan 9 months ago
@PracticedMan It has the opposite effect to the majority of people.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
jail sux
littledeath 9 months ago
STOP you dont know the long term effects of Marijuana.
Dumb hippie -_-
LRtrain1 9 months ago
@LRtrain1 Certainly nowhere near the effects that alcohol and cigarettes, which actually kill people.
Davisrullzs 9 months ago
@LRtrain1 I think a long term user understands the long term effects better than anyone. would you trust an experienced plumber or someone who's watched people plumbing before?
LaterzMcGhee 9 months ago
This is a part of the shift from lies to revealing the actual TRUTH.. an even better idea than just legalizing it is to surpass money all together.. use technology for its true purpose, to free us from enslavement... resonation? Good, check out The Venus Project.. check it out GOOD because I'm sure its on a new level now.
GloryAtWill 9 months ago
"RICK SIMPSON is the leading patient scientist to have explored the use of Cannabis extracts to treat Cancers. It was because of his pioneering work & anecdotal reports from patient scientists from all over the world that Cannabis Science has been working with & educating patients."
Dr. Melamede, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs / Pres. & CEO, Cannabis Science / Program Administrator, Phoenix Tears Foundation / Scientific Advisor, The Unconventional Foundation for Autism
EssiacHempLaetrile 9 months ago
@IHavAUTubeSadly Have you ever heard of freedom? How bout separation of church and state? If you want God, thats fine, but you do not have the right to restrict other peoples freedom with your religion. You want to fix violence in our communities? LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, and stop letting criminals sell it and cause violence in the streets. Let a business distribute it safely with no criminals involved, and all the violence would GO AWAY! Listen to what science says, not government lies!
mekanova 9 months ago
@mekanova although if businesses sell marijuana, most likely, they would use harmful addictive chemicals in it as a new ingredient for business instead of them selling it purely. I say dont legalize it, but discriminalize it. Its not the right of our corrupt government to decide what we consume in our own bodies.
samuriguy909 9 months ago
@samuriguy909 First of all, its decriminalization. And that is a terrible solution. If you knew what it was you would think so too. Decrim. means that its still illegal to posses and grow, and you can still be fined and have your pot seized, just no permanent criminal record. If it were legal, businesses couldn't put other chemicals in it, because if they did, people wouldn't buy it from them, they would grow it themselves, purely. Legalization is the only solution that will solve this problem.
mekanova 9 months ago
@mekanova true, and I think marijuana seeds will be available at any store for private gardening.
samuriguy909 9 months ago
@samuriguy909 Exactly. Seeds easily available to keep other growers accountable. If their quality isn't good enough, I bet we could do better on our own. I would definitely get into gardening then. I hope one day we will be allowed to do that in our "free" country.
mekanova 9 months ago
Marijuana is the safest drug there is. I smoke on a daily basis and was still able to obtain a college degree in business. I say marijuana should be legalized. Anyone who says it harmful and should remain illegalized is completely absurd. On a side note. I have never went on to try the "harder" drugs. The so called "Gateway Efffect" has been caused by prohibition because these "drug cartels" have control over this market. They don't care about selling to kids underage.
joshlazarus 9 months ago
For the US to get nation wide approval of marijuana we need to stop focusing on West and East coast but also on the midwest and the south. These areas have the lowest approval ratings of marijuana about 30-40% while the west and east coast have a 45-50% approval. BUT I do think we should first spread marijuana truth in California first since they were so close to legalization anyways.
batistaker123 9 months ago
Someone seems angry. Google: sarcasm. I was saying I'm impressed Penn never smoked weed as I can't say that and I am not the same person I would have been because of it. Don't know if I would have been better had chosen differently. Now, we'll never know. BTW Did someone flush your weed? Maybe you should take time to enhance and chilax. or vice versa. If this is the attitude you get when you are high, need ta check yo self. Because, You don't know me at all.
KevinMFurr 10 months ago
Anyone who says marijuana should remain illegal (by claiming it's harmful) yet drinks alcohol is a hypocrite.
bertrude123 10 months ago 44
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@bertrude123 Technically, Anyone who says marijuana should remain illegal (by claiming it's harmful) yet SMOKES MARIJUANA is a hypocrite.
cobydick8 9 months ago
@bertrude123 Amen!
ScreamerMovieReviews 9 months ago
@bertrude123 No, they're not.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 Yes, they are.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 No, they're not. A glass of red wine a night is very good for your health and has no negative implications. The same can't be said about marijuana.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 Most people that drink alcohol do not just have a glass of wine a night. And you might want to check the death statistics per year on marijuana vs. alcohol. There is not enough toxicity in marijuana to overdose on it and kill yourself, yet people have died from alcohol poisoning in one night. Alcohol affects every single organ in your body. A glass of wine a night is fine, but marijuana is used for treating diseases, so alcohol doesn't win the "health" argument.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 The fact is, that people DO, which completely destroys the argument. Also, it's impossible to determine if anyone has died from smoking pot. How the hell can someone know that if someone dies from lung cancer, it was the fact the smoking marijuana is a known carcinogen and increases the chances of developing the cancer? It's impossible.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 What about those who have a heart condition and can't drink alcohol? And I'm not saying that marijuana is completely harmless. Every drug has its dangers and risks. My point is that marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, yet people claim that it should remain illegal. The fact is that alcohol kills more people per year than any drug except for cigarettes. And it's not impossible to determine the causes of lung cancer. Doctors aren't stupid. They figure it out.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 Those people are irrelevant...since they don't drink at all, which doesn't comply with the original posters argument.
The argument that weed to less harmful than alcohol, therefore it should be legal is one of the worst I've ever heard. Studies in the U.K suggest that alcohol is more harmful than cocaine and heroine...should we legalise those too?
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@bertrude123 The fact is that it IS almost impossible to determine what caused some cancers. Marijuana increase the chances of developing lung cancer -- FACT. Now explain to me how the hell they can possibly know a death was caused by an INCREASED chance of developing lung cancer. Meticulous research costing thousands of dollars MAY come to a definitive conclusion, but no way are doctors prepared to do that for each individual. Therefore, they will never know for most people.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 Wrong again. Many studies have been done to examine the risk of lung cancer associated with marijuana. It was concluded that weed does NOT elevate one's chances of developing lung cancer due to the presence of THC which has been found to prevent the spread of cancerous cells. This research has been done repeatedly. You are reaching for an argument that is not there. Sorry.
Also, cocaine and heroine can cause death from an overdose. Marijuana does not. Bad comparison.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 This study following states otherwise, marijuana is a known carcinogen. Please read at least the abstract and don't dismiss it out of hand like many others
The European Respiratory Journal, R. Beasley et al., "Cannabis use and risk of lung cancer: a case--control study.", Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, February 1st, 2008.
Err...where did I compare marijuana with cocaine and heroine? I was comparing it with alcohol to create an analogy to refute your fallacious argument
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 I know people that have been smoking weed for decades and never got cancer...
cenyan13 8 months ago
@cenyan13 Smoking weed isn't guaranteed to give you cancer...it only increases the chances of developing it.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 There have been a few cases that suggest marijuana raises lung cancer risk. However, the most studies and findings (including the latest) have concluded otherwise. If people are dying from lung cancer from marijuana, how come we don't see it? How come there are no statistics on it? Don't tell me that "it's impossible to know" because we can trace it to tobacco use without any problems.
You can't compare cocaine/heroin with alcohol only and expect it to be a valid point.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123I'll just message you instead.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 Worse than tobacco? Wow, if that were true, we'd see thousands of deaths per year from smoking marijuana. For all the years that weed has been around, the one thing that's lacking in the lung cancer correlation is evidence, meaning actual cases of lung cancer. I've found them, but the people also smoked cigarettes. I've never found a case where someone had cancer just from marijuana. You'd think that we'd have seen enough of it by now.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 Wow...did you seriously just ignore those 80+ peer reviewed articles providing the evidence that there is a strong correlation between marijuana and lung cancer? Actually to be honest, it doesn't surprise me.
As a response to your first claim, using deodorant increases the chances of developing breast cancer, but how many death certificates do you see saying: "Death by too much use of deodorant". Apply the same thing to marijuana, this is what I've been trying to explain to you.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 It's simple if Alcohol is legal, marijuana needs to be legal also. If marijuana is illegal so should Alcohol. Don't get it twisted.
viviper006 8 months ago
@viviper006 The act of killing is sometimes legal, therefore we should legalise violent abuse.
Great logic there, genius.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 ha your logic from what I have been reading is "genius". Not so much.. If you haven't been drinking so much alcohol and smoking all those cigarettes you might have some brain cells to figure it out. Its all ass backwards and you know it. It doesn't make any sense that alcohol and tobacco are legal and marijuana isn't.
viviper006 8 months ago
@viviper006 I see that my analogy missed your brain entirely.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 No, I did not ignore the articles. You're ignoring the lack of hard data. And if you're so convinced that smoking marijuana causes lung cancer, what do you say to those who use a vaporizer to inhale it? Or those who mix it in with food?
Back to our original argument. If one person drinks a glass of wine a day, and another takes one hit of marijuana per day, nothing significant will happen to either of them. Increase the usage for both, and alcohol becomes the bigger threat.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 Are you fucking kidding me?! Do you have any idea what the peer review process is? As I've mentioned, only 10% of scientific articles ever get published, and you're telling me that EIGHTY articles doesn't constitute as 'hard data'. To a research scientists that would constitute as rock solid proof.
Besides, you clearly missed the article that concluded that smoking one joint is equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes, pertaining to lung cancer.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
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bertrude123 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 By "hard data," I mean lung cancer cases that didn't involve tobacco use, family history, asbestos, etc. Why is there no recorded case of someone having lung cancer solely by marijuana use? Why is it so easy to trace it to tobacco use, but not marijuana? The studies claim it "may" lead to cancer, but are inconclusive beyond that. The end result is that marijuana officially kills zero people per year.
You've yet to justify keeping marijuana illegal when alcohol is not.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 Look at that, more evidence you didn't read the peer reviewed articles. The New Zealand study, which I even linked to you states explicitly that they took into account the use of tobacco and other factors and deducted it.
How many times do I have to respond to your second claim? I've told you at least twice now, I refuse to state my response any more. Just because you're ignoring it, it doesn't mean I didn't make the claim.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@bertrude123 I've yet to justify keeping marijuana illegal because that's not my position, and I've never stated it was my position. I'm for the legalisation of medical marijuana, but I'm someone who acknowledges both the negative and positive effects of smoking pot, which is rare to find.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 Okay, so I had posted a previous comment, then deleted it after seeing this. Here's my point: Marijuana should be legal. Yes, there are risks with it, just like any drug. The hypocrisy has to do with the fact that alcohol is a far more dangerous drug. It doesn't matter how much or how little you consume it, the potential danger is there, and it far outweighs marijuana. I still disagree with the lung cancer argument, but that's from the lack of lung cancer cases.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 Why do you justify your position by mentioning that there are non peer reviewed articles that support your position, but when I present 80+ PEER REVIEWED published articles, all of a sudden it doesn't constitute as sufficient evidence? Make your mind up, that's called bias.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@bertrude123 P.S. Would you care to retract the statement: "There have been a few cases that suggest marijuana raises lung cancer risk. However, the most studies and findings (including the latest) have concluded otherwise."? I've provided the evidence that destroys your lack of research, hopefully you will have the honesty to admit being willfully ignorant.
RonBurgundy161 8 months ago
@RonBurgundy161 I was referring to studies and because there are lots of them coming from both sides, I've now been actively searching for documented proof (not statistical analysis) of individuals with lung cancer solely from marijuana. I haven't found anything, and the fact that you keep stating "it's impossible to know" is just a cop-out way for you to keep defending your side. And you call me willfully ignorant. I'm not the one saying that it makes perfect sense that pot's illegal.
bertrude123 8 months ago
@bertrude123 To put this into perspective for you, eating red meat increases the chances of developing cancer. I hope that's something we can both agree on, now find me a case of someone dieing from eating too much red meat. You won't be able to do it. The reason we know