Stephen Bier (Pogo) was the biggest loss to Marilyn Manson. all the errie beeps and things from the early albums are gone. Vrenna would be my choice too. cool guy. obviously extremely intelligent.
Thats what I always thought,He wrote everything and had a live band for hire. But if you listen to tweaker and some other stuff Vrenna's done, you might second guess yourself. The music and riffs sound so much like NiN.
they moved to cleveland together and had i little studio apartment and filled it with gear and wrote alot of the earlier stuff TOGETHER. most pretty hate machine
reason is good tool for beginners or experts....easier than pro tools and still sounds great..i wish i knew what guitar refill chris used as well..that sounded nice..
But in protools you can record real time multi track audio, reason can't....I look forward to reason record, I use protools and reason at the moment, so am totally keen on propellerheads new release, then maybe my protools system gets kicked?
My big question with Chriss is if he is working on a PC!
look at the PT promo and you will notice a apple mac screen sitting on a HD interface, but the whole time he is showing PT8 off you will notice it is in a XP Environment., iam asking why, kracks, stability?
wonder how Reznor used Pro Tools in the early days of like the late 80s making PHM on an Apple II which is iike System 7 Mac OS and same with Broken too. of course computers and technology got better but its mainly old school shit ya know... glad we have USB ports and OS X Macs lol. no SCSI ports lol.
of course trent used pt, he is a fan of nail, where he got every idea from, he even named his band 9 inch nails, and nail used sample cell in a pro tools enviremet before digidesign and avid bought out pro deck from the early micromedia company which was later caleld pro tools.
I just watched some shit on the Digidesign site, with an interview of Vrenna using Pro Tools 8 as a production tool. Guess he uses Reason mainly for like live situations playing keyboard...dunno...software ppl say is easy turns out to be hard lol I am still learning Apple Logic Pro 8. Cost so much for Logic Studio, but I still wanna try different production software, Pro Tools LE might be something to look into or Reason. I just dunno.
I'm glad this guy replaced pogo, he has been involved with marilyn manson for years. However for all the people that say pogo did nothing. Listen to the new album. Those keyboard parts he composed on previous albums are gone. And he had a very distinctive sound, which is now gone and this sound was very dominant in the marilyn manson sound.
Reason sounds real cool like it would be very easy for production and performance. lately I just started using Apple Logic Studio with mainstage and Logic Pro 8. Pro Tools just was not working out for my band after that well. I remember the demo cd I made for the record label, very easy to use. I really wanna try reason tho, always like to explore software.
this is also the guy who did the drum solo for perfect drug song, co founder of NIN(88-98) and now he's working with manson, and after hearing were from america, i think this new manson album is going to be great.
yeah, IVIupgrade...Pro Tools is just a program in the studio same with Kore native instruments its all just in the studio I just heard from people Reason 4.0 i think was complicated, never tried it...might try and learn it for our next tour in a few months. Back in the day I used Apple Logic or Ableton when I first got started, I have used re-wire on different situations.
yeah, I remember seeing Chris drumming for Manson at Rock IM Rock thinking "well Ginger either got tired of Manson's off stage shit or hes hurt which comes as no suprise after seeing the Reading Festival 2001 I think which was all on the GGG Tour dvd.
Chris is a real good drummer...I liked Jerome Dillion better in some ways and Josh Freese is just an amazing drummer but my main drum influence has always been Danny Carey just a badass guy.
Can't forget that mic stand that cut your head from Trent on the NIN Self Destruct Tour 1994 I think, and he kept drumming. Impressive as Reznor stated lol. Reason is kinda complex for me...so i many use pro tools with Kore native instruments for software effects then theres some hardware in my set up, but not alot I did try to attempt Reason 4.0 on my mac but its complex in a way but theres so many options, which is good and bad in the same way.
Vrenna's my fucking drum idol, besides Josh Freese, Travis Barker, and Ilan Rubin. I've only been drumming for like, eight months? And I can't do shit. I'm learning to play "Discipline" on drums. But listening to Vrenna's drum work in this NIN rehearsal video I saw is fucking amazing.
Chris is amazing, drumming and some programming for NIN back in the early days then doing amazing keyboard/synthesizer work for Manson on the 2007 and 2008 tour. I produce stuff myself more along the lines of the Zeromancer, which is related to NIN in that industrial way..but i use Logic by apple and Pro Tools which i had to learn to use extensively. I've met Tim Skold while he was doing his solo projects which are amazing, would love to have him play bass or guitar
Reason is a great program. If you can't make it sound good then it's you not the program. Making it sound good is about knowing how to mix and having good taste in the sounds you choose.
pro tools is crap for live circumstances reason is a more suitable option i would use pro tools in the studio and use re wire to transfer it to reason
aye ya well he didnt say in his comment to suggest a better live program, all together NI's stuff has better sonic quality than reason imo, unless your making your own 24bit samples. Reason rocks though.
Yeah IMO Reason is just one big bloated toy. I can never get a good mix down and everything sounds compressed. Which is bad becouse I like wide open mixes. Oh well.....RENOISE 2.0 FTW!!!
I loved Pogo, but Chris Vrenna is amazing. Coma White sounded beautiful live this time around. You could tell when Pogo played he would just hold one key, and drink beer with the other hand.
I use to use allot of hardware but I switched over to an all computer set-up a few years ago. And I use reason both in the studio and live, it's totally great. No more need for hardware, not for me at least.
Yes Pogo was an original member but never really contributed anything special to the band. When playing live Pogo mostly had everything prerecorded and sampled, so he would just hit several buttons through out the set.
Chris unlike Pogo plays everything live. Trust me you can tell the difference. Plus Chris knows what he is doing and can freehand just as good as Trent Reznor. Pogo stuck to a routine. Plus Pogos a bitch and left.
Chris Vrenna is amazing live, i mean pogo just plays samples and since cryptorchid he never made a true song in many years, and Chris save the band paying great songs like comawhite, heart shaped glasses, tainted love, and chris actually plays live they don't do samples.
Chris Vrenna is one of the industry's best programmers and studio jocks (and his solo work is phenomenal as well). Anyone crying about Reason's lack of features or anything else is only showing their own lack of skill.
A leading programmer playing on arguably one of the biggest tours going isn't going to use something that's going to fail, cause problems, be hard to use, or sound like shit.
If you can't make Reason work, it's your fault, not the software.
Chris* my bad bad glitchy iPod keyboard.
TheMarroquinTwins 1 month ago
I mean Cgrus Vrenna is a great keyboard player and all, but FUCK I MISS POGO !!!! I loved his hyperactiveness!!! :(
TheMarroquinTwins 1 month ago
god hes hott
Joeyslittlemaggot 3 months ago
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theattitudevideos 5 months ago
I gotta tell you it ain't always so
Somebody loves you who ain't gonna go
gangurobitch 5 months ago
I love his laugh :')
TheRD3D 7 months ago
Reason sux. Stop playing with kids stuff.....OMNISPHERE
legniak1 7 months ago
the song at the beginning of this vid is called ''cauterized''. it's from Tweakers ''2 a.m. wakeup call'' album.
tkivoband 8 months ago
fuck that i miss M.W. Gacy
6Slipknot5 8 months ago
I think he takes speed.
Svperstarr 11 months ago
Chris Vrenna has a really cute smile, does'nt he?
marilynmanson5692 11 months ago 5
OMFG he is so gay
liavv6 1 year ago
he drank way too much coffee!
copnite12342 1 year ago
SOO happy Chris replaced Pogo!!! Chris is WAy better looking..LOL hot stuff =) better muscian to
BrokenScream4God 1 year ago
MM is horribly generic now.
And Brian's blimped out!
MondoReyTV1 1 year ago
The instrumental track in the beginning of the video is that by Chris and does anybody know the name???
NeroBorgata26 1 year ago
@NeroBorgata26 If its by Chris its probably from his old band Tweeker.
DrZaious 1 year ago
@DrZaious Tweaker, sorry.
DrZaious 1 year ago
glockenspeil is my new favourite word.
lollirotcharlie 1 year ago 3
Chris Vrenne love his job I think. He is a verry talented person.
LESRAM1981 1 year ago
which refill contains the guitar patches??? (other than the factory sound bank)
pinksue 1 year ago
that head shaking is making me give that interviewer a punch in the face
iamipula 1 year ago
pogo john5 twiggy and marilyn manson are the biggest talents ;)
Polskiiguy1993 1 year ago
@Polskiiguy1993 Ginger is awesome too though, he's a good drummer
MansonNiles11 1 year ago
@MansonNiles11 true true ;)
Polskiiguy1993 1 year ago
Stephen Bier (Pogo) was the biggest loss to Marilyn Manson. all the errie beeps and things from the early albums are gone. Vrenna would be my choice too. cool guy. obviously extremely intelligent.
Armagon9177 1 year ago 4
what laptop is he using?A net book?
poshi12 1 year ago
:P Looks like everytime nine inch nails is mentioned it erks him.lol
poshi12 2 years ago 5
@poshi12 because NIN was his entire career almost lol he went back and forth from manson and NIN without them i dont think vren would be known
calypso694 2 years ago 2
Probably because that's the band he used to be in that he knows is way better than Manson....
samjbrowne 1 year ago
Chris looks like he drank a huge coffee just before being interviewed.. kinda jumpy-ish. He's pretty cool though.
BlackDeath10000 2 years ago 28
@BlackDeath10000
He snortedf a huge coffee, huh?
Pergiacomo 2 years ago 2
@Pergiacomo
:| How the fuck did you get that out of my previous comment?
BlackDeath10000 2 years ago
@Pergiacomo now thats funny..
johwatts 1 year ago
@BlackDeath10000 thats the coke
DOMINICKERWIN 1 year ago
@BlackDeath10000 I don't think that's coffee.
kevincease 8 months ago
he's cute
copnite12342 2 years ago 3
@copnite12342 yES HE IS...
BrokenScream4God 1 year ago
omg Chris Vrenna is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the American McGee's Alice soundtracks ^_^
Shurrackia96 2 years ago
where can i download/buy his work?
soarepaul1407 2 years ago
yay, perdy boy. x} i love tweaker.
sydmarissa 2 years ago
Chris is awesome! Happy he is with Manson!
edgeoftheworld12 2 years ago
dam I fuckin love him!he rest 2!
MarilynRamirez666 2 years ago
he seems a cool guy which is great cause ya never really hear anything from anyone else in the band.
yak52aholic 2 years ago
@yak52aholic Yea i know eh? nothing From Ginger Fish, some new from Twiggy though.
BrokenScream4God 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
he sux!
RunFastBeforYouCot 2 years ago
A cigar of quality!
ScottBrown666 2 years ago
"WOW"
Veronica6669 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
he helped Trent with programming of some of the music...
it's a shame he is wasting his time with Marilyn Manson
luxonskinjob 2 years ago
but I love marilyn manson :(
you have upset me.
kieferirvine 2 years ago
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Auspex1980 2 years ago
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Auspex1980 2 years ago
somebody set this straight was he in NiN and did he write with trent
azrial4421 2 years ago
He was a part of the live group on Nine Inch Nails on the drums, as far as writing album material, Chris didn't write music with Trent.
March3Yahoo 2 years ago
Thats what I always thought,He wrote everything and had a live band for hire. But if you listen to tweaker and some other stuff Vrenna's done, you might second guess yourself. The music and riffs sound so much like NiN.
azrial4421 2 years ago
they moved to cleveland together and had i little studio apartment and filled it with gear and wrote alot of the earlier stuff TOGETHER. most pretty hate machine
thirdshiftshow 2 years ago
bloody hell he is sooo cuutttteee!!!!!
DarkBubbles725 2 years ago 3
OMG UNCLE CHRIS! I HAVENT SEEN HIM IN FOREVER. I MISS HIM!
amazing job with his career.
love you and aunt carrie <3
grrrrbabydanny 2 years ago
reason is good tool for beginners or experts....easier than pro tools and still sounds great..i wish i knew what guitar refill chris used as well..that sounded nice..
ZaZaZoo22 2 years ago
But in protools you can record real time multi track audio, reason can't....I look forward to reason record, I use protools and reason at the moment, so am totally keen on propellerheads new release, then maybe my protools system gets kicked?
mckaelio 2 years ago
My big question with Chriss is if he is working on a PC!
look at the PT promo and you will notice a apple mac screen sitting on a HD interface, but the whole time he is showing PT8 off you will notice it is in a XP Environment., iam asking why, kracks, stability?
CapnBooBoo 2 years ago
wonder how Reznor used Pro Tools in the early days of like the late 80s making PHM on an Apple II which is iike System 7 Mac OS and same with Broken too. of course computers and technology got better but its mainly old school shit ya know... glad we have USB ports and OS X Macs lol. no SCSI ports lol.
jrquilty 2 years ago
of course trent used pt, he is a fan of nail, where he got every idea from, he even named his band 9 inch nails, and nail used sample cell in a pro tools enviremet before digidesign and avid bought out pro deck from the early micromedia company which was later caleld pro tools.
CapnBooBoo 2 years ago
I just watched some shit on the Digidesign site, with an interview of Vrenna using Pro Tools 8 as a production tool. Guess he uses Reason mainly for like live situations playing keyboard...dunno...software ppl say is easy turns out to be hard lol I am still learning Apple Logic Pro 8. Cost so much for Logic Studio, but I still wanna try different production software, Pro Tools LE might be something to look into or Reason. I just dunno.
jrquilty 2 years ago
Really talented and friendly, down to earth guy.
cthulufunk 2 years ago 3
I'm glad this guy replaced pogo, he has been involved with marilyn manson for years. However for all the people that say pogo did nothing. Listen to the new album. Those keyboard parts he composed on previous albums are gone. And he had a very distinctive sound, which is now gone and this sound was very dominant in the marilyn manson sound.
blackpieceofwhite 2 years ago 23
Chris Vrenna is a nice guy
kennyferry 2 years ago 6
Does anyone know anything about Mainstage or Reason dpros/cons as a live onstage software?
jrquilty 2 years ago
ok cool
bageproductions 2 years ago
Does anyone know what guitar refill Chris was using to get the rhythm guitar sound he demoed towards the end of this video?
redchant 2 years ago
Reason sounds real cool like it would be very easy for production and performance. lately I just started using Apple Logic Studio with mainstage and Logic Pro 8. Pro Tools just was not working out for my band after that well. I remember the demo cd I made for the record label, very easy to use. I really wanna try reason tho, always like to explore software.
jrquilty 2 years ago
Wow that was so cool. How come Pogo never did any interviews? This guy has been behind the scenes in Manson for years.
y00lb 2 years ago 2
this is also the guy who did the drum solo for perfect drug song, co founder of NIN(88-98) and now he's working with manson, and after hearing were from america, i think this new manson album is going to be great.
hellchild65 2 years ago 3
i always thought the drum solo was a modified amen break.
and you also forgot to mention tweaker, amazing new prog/industrial
ApocIndustries 2 years ago
this guy is really cool. Just found him. how talented. the guy being interviewed i mean lol. i'm sure the other guy is too though haha
antpirate4ever 3 years ago
You should check out the song Microsize Boy by Tweaker if you haven't already. I think it's one of Chris's best tracks.
Rizimar 2 years ago
i don't know if you were talking to me directly but i heard that song, i watch a fan vid, and it was really cool. thanks :)
and once again listening to this guy talk, he's so diverse with who he's worked with. really cool guy.
antpirate4ever 2 years ago
VRENNA A CIGAR of QUALITY Try One Youll Like 1
Daltoncocaine 3 years ago
yeah, IVIupgrade...Pro Tools is just a program in the studio same with Kore native instruments its all just in the studio I just heard from people Reason 4.0 i think was complicated, never tried it...might try and learn it for our next tour in a few months. Back in the day I used Apple Logic or Ableton when I first got started, I have used re-wire on different situations.
jrquilty 3 years ago
lol if i'm fifteen and can use it for production and performances you can do it, you should give it a try
lvlUpgrade 3 years ago
yeah, I remember seeing Chris drumming for Manson at Rock IM Rock thinking "well Ginger either got tired of Manson's off stage shit or hes hurt which comes as no suprise after seeing the Reading Festival 2001 I think which was all on the GGG Tour dvd.
jrquilty 3 years ago
Chris is a real good drummer...I liked Jerome Dillion better in some ways and Josh Freese is just an amazing drummer but my main drum influence has always been Danny Carey just a badass guy.
jrquilty 3 years ago 3
Can't forget that mic stand that cut your head from Trent on the NIN Self Destruct Tour 1994 I think, and he kept drumming. Impressive as Reznor stated lol. Reason is kinda complex for me...so i many use pro tools with Kore native instruments for software effects then theres some hardware in my set up, but not alot I did try to attempt Reason 4.0 on my mac but its complex in a way but theres so many options, which is good and bad in the same way.
jrquilty 3 years ago
Vrenna's my fucking drum idol, besides Josh Freese, Travis Barker, and Ilan Rubin. I've only been drumming for like, eight months? And I can't do shit. I'm learning to play "Discipline" on drums. But listening to Vrenna's drum work in this NIN rehearsal video I saw is fucking amazing.
hjx155 3 years ago
This was prolly while they were starting production for Manson's Eat Me Drink Me...I could be wrong though.
jrquilty 3 years ago
Chris is amazing, drumming and some programming for NIN back in the early days then doing amazing keyboard/synthesizer work for Manson on the 2007 and 2008 tour. I produce stuff myself more along the lines of the Zeromancer, which is related to NIN in that industrial way..but i use Logic by apple and Pro Tools which i had to learn to use extensively. I've met Tim Skold while he was doing his solo projects which are amazing, would love to have him play bass or guitar
jrquilty 3 years ago
what is the date? when this was recorded?
Z1PPER1989 3 years ago
Reason is a great program. If you can't make it sound good then it's you not the program. Making it sound good is about knowing how to mix and having good taste in the sounds you choose.
hershism 3 years ago
For those who are trashing Reason, could you suggest other software options?
shanm1971 3 years ago
get protools 8 and komplete by NI :D
Plastiqinc 3 years ago
pro tools is crap for live circumstances reason is a more suitable option i would use pro tools in the studio and use re wire to transfer it to reason
lvlUpgrade 3 years ago
aye ya well he didnt say in his comment to suggest a better live program, all together NI's stuff has better sonic quality than reason imo, unless your making your own 24bit samples. Reason rocks though.
fortysicsand2 3 years ago
I thought Chris will use better software than Reason :[
Albarai 3 years ago
Yeah IMO Reason is just one big bloated toy. I can never get a good mix down and everything sounds compressed. Which is bad becouse I like wide open mixes. Oh well.....RENOISE 2.0 FTW!!!
metalzone2000 3 years ago
chris vrenna is cool :)
but i like pogo too :)
rutee1000 3 years ago
this convinced me to get the reason demo...holy shit its awsome im so buying it!!!
lvlUpgrade 3 years ago
to bad I hate Reason.....but good interveiw....
metalzone2000 3 years ago
Reason is for kids.
beowulven 3 years ago
When this was recorded?
Z1PPER1989 3 years ago
This is a great interview! I am happily surprised to see that Vrenna uses Reason...LIVE, at that!
arclight2012 3 years ago
I loved Pogo, but Chris Vrenna is amazing. Coma White sounded beautiful live this time around. You could tell when Pogo played he would just hold one key, and drink beer with the other hand.
SomeguyThere111 3 years ago
I miss him being with NIN.
allmightantdawgs 3 years ago
I use to use allot of hardware but I switched over to an all computer set-up a few years ago. And I use reason both in the studio and live, it's totally great. No more need for hardware, not for me at least.
Markap84 3 years ago
But POGO can make show and MM is not about sound-it's about show
darlingFreak 3 years ago
Chris Vrenna is boss
mealexxx 3 years ago 3
POGO I call you back
darlingFreak 3 years ago
Yes Pogo was an original member but never really contributed anything special to the band. When playing live Pogo mostly had everything prerecorded and sampled, so he would just hit several buttons through out the set.
Chris unlike Pogo plays everything live. Trust me you can tell the difference. Plus Chris knows what he is doing and can freehand just as good as Trent Reznor. Pogo stuck to a routine. Plus Pogos a bitch and left.
DrZaious 3 years ago 4
Chris Vrenna is amazing live, i mean pogo just plays samples and since cryptorchid he never made a true song in many years, and Chris save the band paying great songs like comawhite, heart shaped glasses, tainted love, and chris actually plays live they don't do samples.
arkahno 3 years ago 4
Agreed.
whoricide13 3 years ago
POGO PLZ COME BACK
madiee12321 3 years ago
Hey TMusic22, did you forget? Vampires can't go out in the sun!
>:)
Cool video.
aMindinPeril 3 years ago
Another great vid!
Chris Vrenna is one of the industry's best programmers and studio jocks (and his solo work is phenomenal as well). Anyone crying about Reason's lack of features or anything else is only showing their own lack of skill.
A leading programmer playing on arguably one of the biggest tours going isn't going to use something that's going to fail, cause problems, be hard to use, or sound like shit.
If you can't make Reason work, it's your fault, not the software.
pilgrimomega 3 years ago 3
i use reason, its great for making garage
Rotraxmusic 3 years ago
whats the name of the software??
violationoftheart 3 years ago
Reason
marguipico 3 years ago
ableto live is a better sequencer dude. reasons grea for live work???
elextrixtechnixtree 3 years ago
Great to watch my favorite video's in HD.
Good work!!
McgregorKLB 3 years ago
great vid, reason is cool:)
madmomentsgo 3 years ago
Chris, You live in LA, Get some sun....
Tmusic22 3 years ago