"The Mighty Eighth" part 2 of 3

[langkaers09]

looolllllllllll woody woodpecker and mickey mouse lolllllllllllll

[rickz28r]

Where can I find a Copy of the Johnny comes marching home song...that version edited here is topper!



[Cplblue]

Im currently reading "The Mighty Eighth" by Gerald Astor, and man, what amazing heroism and stories in that book...even funny as hell ones :) If only there was as much admiration for the men who took to the skies over europe as there is for the Army on the ground. I'd love to see a new movie about it (and it being realisitc...) to show minors who have no idea, how crazy the air war over Europe was.

[ehaynes0013]

The P-47s with squadron codes VF, QP and WD are 4th FG squadrons based at Debden. This film was most likely shot at the end of 1943 (the Stars and Bars insignia appears to be edged in red) or very early in 1944.

[ichmalealsobinich]

My father has shown me the remains of such an US-fighter bomber (P47) in a forest of the Eifel-mountains which were still laying 40 years after the war when I was a kid. According to him it was the first kill which he achieved as Hitlerboy serving on a 20mm Vierlingsflak which was mounted on a railway wagon as defensive escort of the train between Trier and Daun. The pilot didn't survive.

[TheMrPangloss]

@Bombergy "REPORTED FOR COPY RIGHT INFRINGEMENTS SORRY" by MrPanglossss.

There is a troll here in your channel named "MrPanglossss".

What he says here is only a tasteless and childish joke. This user who appears here often under username "blockthehood" has an unknown number of clones. He likes to terrorize other posters by insults, disrespecting behaviour and and foul language.

[irish89055]

real personality that CO huh??

[BigMrFirebird]

I hate seeing the old air bases rotting back into oblivion. There was so much that happened at these sites and quite often, we're lucky to even notice a modest memorial. Watching footage like this helps to bring fast fading memories of what the folks who served at such places did and had to endure, back to life. Many thanks.

[thomasuras]

Thanks for the post really enjoy. but one has to wonder wile or boys are fighting a war and doing every thing they can to stay alive we have USA tobacco companies cramming cigarettes in every pocket they got and you know their cheep to the army as long as their in every news real.this is why the settlements are so steep becuase the own research at time proved the hazards of smoking were fatal

[xxchinookxx]

Damn!...I always have visions of 200 -250 B-17Gs with P-51D fighter escorts bombing Dresden and Berlin.

[rcplanetim53]

just thought i would let you know that i enjoy your shows a lot...i will try to remember to give them the great ratings they deserve... thanks

[padreleigh]

Definitely the 4th FG. That's 1st Lt. Steve Pisanos asking about the weather during the briefing. He was a 10 victory ace. 23 year old Col. Chesley Peterson was the guy who ended the briefing. Nice pipe in his hand. He was trying to look old. 23 and a COLONEL.

[monzavideo]

The 8th Air Force 305th Bomb Group has a page on Facebook. Look for them

[canusa1000]

Col. Don Blakeslee, a natural leader.

[mpfaley]

The Briefing is as Debden with Don Blakeslee doing the briefing then Col Chesley Peterson CO of the 4th Fighter Group. That is Kidd Hofer with Duke (German Shepard).

[HobieTyourtube]

Guys!!-love the music of the time.

I tell you--------the Americans SURE loved that they had allies.

We all know they were backed with----hugh manufacturing------------BUT!!­-------when it came down to one on one with the Germans--you were on your ---own?

The Germans were-------------------AWESOME­!!

Not like in the movies!-BUT---real enemies?

They thought that WE were-Pussies!

They had the best armanents,training-a breeze?

"Bring it On? "

They say -"History is written by the Victors"?

[blackbeard456]

By 1944, the air war in Europe was over. Despite the fact that the Germans were way ahead of their time with the ME 262, and the Panzer tanks, yes we still won and paid a terrible price for that win. But the P-47 was an excellent plane. My father was a fighter pilot who flew one from 1943 in North Africa to Berlin.

Just so you know, 70% of all allied fighter planes were shot down by anti aircraft weapons.

[YrHen]

I think the airfield MIGHT be RAF Debden in Essex about 1943!

Aircraft on taxi are from 334th,335th and 336th fighter Squadrons, (QP,WD and VF)pilots having transferred over from RAF Eagle Squadrons (71 Sqn,121 Sqn and 133 Sqn)

That's quite a bit of talent there!

[Scharfschutzen1]

I guess they erased the footage of civilian farmers, children,women and animals strafed for no justifiable reason.

[MikeFrylinck]

Agreed. There's nothing proper about the propaganda

[Darknamja]

The 334th, 335th, and 336th FS were the squadrons fitted with the F-4 that I maintained as a 17 year airman in the 1970's at SJAFB, N.C.

[Scharfschutzen1]

Excellent, the F4 is my favorite aircraft.

[Scharfschutzen1]

I get 6 thumbs down for saying the Allied pilots strafed women,children, farmers and animals?? This is historical fact reported by both sides. Who here is afraid to read the truth??

[chaptainchaos]

Damn those evil allied pilots. The Germans were so much more humane, they never killed any civillians, especially jewish ones.

[Scharfschutzen1]

Yeah, like the Allied bombs only exploded on uniformed German soldiers, when u are sane again.post back.

[chaptainchaos]

Listen to what I said retard, I never denied that german civillians were killed I just said the german killed 100,000s of people who they new were innocent civillians. When the Allies droped bombs they were wildly innacurate but they were intended to knock out a specific target, not just killing people for their religion.

I am sane and still enjoying Germans and Austrians being my shoe shine boys at the bottom of the tree. Clean my boots Nazi.

[Scharfschutzen1]

Read my post AGAIN retard, when and if you slavs can understand,WHEN AND IF YOU BECOME SANE. Read it real slow.

[chaptainchaos]

Dear Nutjob,

Whats a slav?

Regard,

Insane slow reader.

P.S. I am holidaying in Austra and Germany this year looking forward to surveying a conquered land. I will leave my boots outside the hotel room for you to clean.

[Scharfschutzen1]

Is this the best response your Zion controlled mind can muster??? HA, you are beaten mein little turd chapassedchaos. Deutschland Uber Alles.

[chaptainchaos]

Still waiting to hear what a slav is.

Deutchland uber alles? I presume your talking about the build quality of the vehicles they produce because in military terms even Poland would whup the german armed forces into submission in less than a week.

[walterm140]

Don Gentile was one of the pilots visible at the briefing.

[bigjohns57]

Yep, third one up front sitting on dog's right!

[carp121335]

By chance I saw a friend of mine,Maj George Carpenter's plane WD I pass by at 2:47 of the video. He commanded the 335th until shot down on 4/18/44 to be a POW.

These videos are great.....

Ewing.........

[stuartthegrant]

I allways thought those "Drop tanks" were larger!. Well done again Bomberguy.

[bobtonja]

Great film ! The group in this film is the 4thFG at Debden. I can spot Don Gentile in the group at briefing. The Col who gets up to give them the time check is CO at that time Col Chestley Peterson.

[kattrby]

There is a scene of ground firing of a Thunderbolt's guns. In the eight-gun Brit machines like the Spit the idea was to "harmonise" the guns so that all their fire was concentrated on one spot at a fixed distance ahead, but they were smaller calibre.

So - were American guns harmonised in the same way, but slightly further ahead? That would seem logical and sensible.

[Skiriderdude]

In 1945 the Spitfire 16 had a combination of 0.5 inch machine guns and 20 mm cannon. My Dad told me that they were optimised to converge at about 400 yards. Some pilots though would have that adapted. The reality was of course is that in operational conditions you didn't always get your own aircraft and you took whatever was going harmonised or not. Certainly towards the end of the war everything was aimed for ground strafing at about 600 yards.

[kattrby]

Thanks - that makes sense. When you have control in the air, ground attack is the priority. I don't think anybody would suggest that even a clipped-wing Spitfire was the right plane for ground attack, but that combination of firepower and distance looks right. By the time that it had got to that stage, it was about Typhoons, Thunderbolts and bombers, I think - much heavier machines that might not fly so well, but could take a lot more knocks.

[Skiriderdude]

Although the Thunderbolt had a very impressive acceleration in the initial stages of a dive, it was a Spitfire Mk XI which has the honour of recording the highest recorded mach number of a piston propellor aircraft, Mach 0.891 in a dive. There are accounts of P47s failing to get airborne from forward airfields on hot days and one account I read of described 6 of the first 10 ploughing into trees fully loaded with bombs. One wonders what the last few taking on that mission were thinking.

[MIT1369]

Like most military men during a time of war they were probably thinking about the men who were relying on them delivering that ordnance on target.

Semper Fi!

[kattrby]

Spoken like a true supply clerk. Or a video shop clerk.

[stand52]

Skirid... My dad told me that the 47's were about 6,000 bare plane, and that they often loaded them up to over 12,000lbs, so it is no wonder they sometimes had a hard time getting off the ground. He said they were a real delight to fly, being light on the stick, and the handling was excellent, probably because of the elliptical wings, and large ailerons, among other things.

[agwhitaker]

Spitfire faster than a P47 in a dive?

Lt. Col. Francis Gabreski scored 28 kills flying Thunderbolts, had a chance to fly a Spit. Mk.9.

In his book he wrote how he liked the Spit's rate of climb and incredibly tight turns, but claimed it couldn't dive worth a nickle - you had to FLY it down to a lower altitude.

Early P47s got into compressability problems in a dive - they were moving so fast the controls locked up.

[Skiriderdude]

It's easy to mistake compressibility problems for an indication of Mach number. The P47 went down like a brick built privy but its wings were slightly fatter and of a different profile to the Spitfire's so that local shockwaves built up sooner where the air accelerated over the curve so buffeting and poor control response were encountered sooner. Bear in mind the Spitfire's recorded Mach number was during a test flight with a special fully feathering prop, that packed up in the dive.

[burjegol]

sir, even a corsair could not match the p-47s in a dive. just come to think. a 7 ton milk bottle, with 2,000 hp and a paddle blade. The late Robert Johnson in his book thuindelbolt, stated that he have encopuntered one of the very best german pilot. But, as he said, the dive was his mistake. No soone had his nose come down and his engine hauling, he have overtaken his quarry in no less time. meaning, he bagged his target.

[Xiolablu3]

This was just a single SPItfire test, the P47 picked up speed far faster in a dive than the Spitfire.

However obviously the Spitfire was generally better at almost everything else as a fighter except maybe top speed at some altitudes.

As always it depends on different veriosn. There is a lot of difference between a 1940 Spit 1 at 360mph and a 1944 SPitfire XIV at 450mph

[GREEROPS]

GREAT... It is not just your consistently fine editing and crafting of the videos that sets you apart it is your incomparable and meticulous background research that really puts the icing on the cake.. Thanks

[denberg2]

Keep 'em coming, Bomberguy!

[spritz0]

Again Bomberguy, this is an amazing effort... one day there should be a creative effort award for you- if all of us fans of yours could award you, it would be a "YouTube Oscar"!!!

[eliade66]

I agree. Thanks, Bomberguy!