Amazing call down with king high, Negreanu comments

[chrisbball1200]

I find this video hard to masturbate to.



[00Phat12345]

@chrisbball1200 why were you even trying??

[popselias]

this is why...if the guy had an ace with 2 4's on the board and the guy calling would he really bet the lone ace? unless he had AA or A 4 he is bluffing.

[Impert]

Great call by RayWilliamJohnson!

[GoingSouthBaby]

negreanu is a donk

[leetDAWG]

that guy needs to fix his hair

[survivalisme88]

@leetDAWG

lol

[SeriouslyWhatTheFark]

Ego call. Guaranteed was history / more to it between them earlier in tourney

[bdenniso]

lol russians.



[ANormalGuy]

The only reason ppl would play this hand is if they got a read that the other side is bluffing and stuck with it.

And amazingly they are both right.

[lidder109]

hacks on

[TehAlex2310]

Sounds like Daniel never played micro stakes on Pokerstars :D

They call you down with 5 high D:

[ShadowSquid]

@TehAlex2310 lol yes this is the typical Russian

[macarthur19]

@TehAlex2310 Pokerstars sucks. Try playing real poker.

[chuckdollar]

0:53 DN: "The most aggressive player is gonna win this pot."

Good analysis Dan, Lykov check/called all the way and won. Very aggressive plays by him!

[Cdub2k]

His read was that he ws bluffing and he stuck with it no matter how much the other guy bet

Bravo to him. Both guys showed great heart in this hand

[phobiazzzero]

this video shows once again how shit russians are at poker!

[Dxh096020]

How is it a standard play to call on the river. Fucking idiot.

[MrScorpion4290]

Pretty standard.

[BoeingPrototype]

I didn't know Ray William Johnson played poker.

[Kaazekami]

0:14 he folds a straight.

[Xbizkitl]

To call ppl down here even if you get a bluffing read is too dangerous IMO. Lots of people bluff with the best hand on obvious bluffing boards, and come up with a pair or so or something like. And sometimes ppl are just really aggressive with their aces shorthandef because they know its likely to be semi-nut.

[Thecorrupation]

Ohh, how i wish to play live poker, and get my hands off online...

[2tame4fame]

Excellent play by both!

[ibzzibrahim]

Both played like morons

[thefrigidness]

he didn't just call with King high .. he had King Nine high .. if his opponent was bluffing with a better King high (which could be in his bluff range) .. he's toast. he had his opponent on pure air for whatever reason.

[zMACPHERSONz]

@thefrigidness youre wrong, he had king high because the board paired 4's had a J and A so his hand waspair of fours with ace king jack

[KevinDorner]

I don't like that 3rd barrel. He needs a lot of foldequity to make that bluff profitable. He can't expect that after getting called twice before. He should've given up after he got called on the turn. I don't like that call on the river, either. He can only beat a pure bluff and will be beat most of the time in that spot. Maybe I'm too much a conservative player but I really don't think those plays are profitbale in the long run.

[TheMitchThompson]

@KevinDorner

the call on the river was pretty standard after calling the flop and turn. He called the flop because its a very dry board. turn was a blank and it was bet again. I would like to think that on such a dry board, if he had an ace or any kind, he would probably check behind, induce a bluff on the river, or let Lykov get a little piece. You have to assume Lykov missed that flop and turn, which is why a turn check, river bet is more believable. the 3 barrels is too much

[KevinDorner]

@TheMitchThompson It's easy to analyse the hand like that if you can see the hole cards. I wanna see you calling with king high after your opponent fired a 3rd barrel. You can't seriously call that standard.

[NoenHarTattMittNavn]

It is usually very profitable to call down with K high playing online. People usually just bluff.

[MrJonnyboy36]

0:34 a more manly Selbst.

[TomislavP1000]

@MrJonnyboy36 LOL so true

[SSSMforlife1]

@MrJonnyboy36 i think selbst it still a bit more manly

[bestpokercoach]

Thank you, everyone it seems on youtube poker vids, seems to argue the right play, when the only information they have is how the hand played out, there missing several vital pieices of information to make the most optimal play possible.. The majority of the time no one other then the players at the table will be able to justify one play over the other..

The only way we can be 100 percent sure of what the right play would be is if the guy does have a mullet obviously. :)

[TheCleetz]

you really cant mess with such a nice haircut with only a mullet

[ProfitableLifestyles]

here's my thinking..

On the flop Lykov was thinking if his opponent doesnt have an ace, his king high is the best hand..

By the river he correctly predicted this type of opponent wouldn't triple barrel so aggressively because the 4 would scare him. His range was polarised to bluffs or nuts

[Lrrrrrrrr]

standard

[pmcgraw13]

that was sick

[dacjfool]

amazing mullet

[shack8110]

The most vile angry comments can be found on poker vids. XD

[sexpistolsdaz]

@shack8110 exactly

[Cy4ara13]

Max is amazing, he is one of the best MTT players in the world. This 2 guys know each other pretty well. They play lots of hands against each other in Moscow poker clubs back in 2007-09. Lykov knew that Tolokonnikov can bet in 3 streets with nothing and also his PFR range from late position is very wide

[shiraq07]

i hate russian players..

[AureliusZen]

im so high

[ggnub100]

Everyone is a poker expert on youtube

[anishtheincubus]

awesome !!

[allomyself]

amazing play! but whats with that shirt!!??

[eatshitdiecunt]

absolutely amazing call

[BootyDaddy36]

He fired all three barrells as well. Great read.

[aznvi3tboiz16]

2 mother fuckin nooblets

[ecoke38]

@aznvi3tboiz16 Wrongg.

[aznvi3tboiz16]

@ecoke38 stfu, u mother fuckin dick suckin bitch

[ecoke38]

@aznvi3tboiz16 Still wrong.

[aznvi3tboiz16]

@ecoke38 i was wrong for making u with ur bitch mom. u fuckin cock suckin bitch. dont bother reply i'm gonna block ur ass

[zerotonico]

sick players!

[Tehui1974]

Great call. If he was suspicious that his opponent was bluffing, maybe he should have led out on the turn?

[TheGAAman]

@Tehui1974 but he might have been worried about the re-raise id say. if he flat calls all the time he cant be re-raised and it makes his decisions easier! if he gets re-raised he might think he has to fold. thats just what i think, and what id do if i was good enough to call down with king high!:)

[freqe]

donk call and an amazing call are just a thin line different. we never know

[TheBarbahaba]

@freqe the results will tell us

[danielvandam]

I thought it was a rudiculous call lol, but lets say hes a great reader

[therightstuff90731]

Wow great call.

[xenocollin]

Well played.

[ArchaonDeath]

The guy with the 2, 5 must be spewwing

[qqleq2]

@TheSazbak ... (continued) And that makes that indeed, in many many cases, the amateur will have overplayed the AA where Ivey didn't. Of course, not every hand, but many more than you may think at first sight. By implying that an amateur plays at the same level as a pro, to me you almost share yourself under the "YT pros" who can judge whatever a pro does and shouts that Durrr is a donk etc. I don't think that is what you meant, though... ;-)

[TheSazbak]

@qqleq2

I wasn't saying an amateur plays on the same level as a pro. I'm just saying that there area lot of different kind of poker players not just the the pros and the donks. I consider myself an amateur since my profession is not poker but I'm not a complete newbie who is chasing drawing hands with incorrect odds waiting to hit a miracle card on the river(aka donk). (cont. in my next post)

[TheSazbak]

@qqleq2

In my original comment I was referring to result oriented people who think they could have lay a certain hand down because they were able to see the hole cards. These people imo can't accept the fact that poker involves luck too and sometimes you have a monster but your opponent has the nuts and you're going to lose a huge pot because even if your opponent could have it it's more likely that he hasn't so saying things like "bad call" is dumb especially since they only saw 1 hand.

[cool9902]

it was an incredible call because you have to factor in the stakes the're playing for and not your average 5nl ring games

[krang5]

amazing call indeed. very very nice. cant believe how dumb are some people posting before, please dont embarass yourself with "it was obv he was on a bluff", and "routine for me". could be on facebook like that maybe though

[MrGnomemeat]

Seems like Lykov picked up a tell on the dude on the flop. He bet sooo quickly when checked to.

[Candychan2012]

it was obvious that he was bluffing. If he had ace on that flop he would check it to the turn not bet bc he would want the other player to connect on turn. and if he had a 4 he would do the same thing. next card is a 3. would he bet a 3? no way. last card is a j. after two calls he has to think that the other guy is strong so he would just check and see if he wins not raise again.

[RENZDOGG]

I JUST THINK THE MORON THAT CALLED IS A DONK!!! HE DID NOT KNOW IF HE HAD 5 Jack Ace Ace 10 4 OR 6 7 HE JUST GUESSED!!!

[slimshady617]

@RENZDOGG You're an idiot

[RENZDOGG]

@slimshady617 fuck u kid i do not have time for u go on and post all the shit u want about me. i am know idiot the real idiot is u. u know i am rite and thats all there is to it.

[Pruane2ishot]

@RENZDOGG what an intelligent rebuttle

[slimshady617]

@RENZDOGG lol

[pale2100]

@RENZDOGG welcome to the game of poker

[SmotPoker09]

@RENZDOGG

yes, a moron with a 5 million dollars bankroll

[IndependentScientist]

he could easily play 22-77 the same scared way + any hand including a jack + KQ and similar

would it still be genious calls then? oh wait, he read him by physical tells. 67!

Look at the winners face in the end, he knew nothin but got involved to prove something. Useless.

[palisandr123]

wow thats a nice poker

[mabell01]

Daniel's right. He's got a dead tell on him.

[nybombs]

If this went wrong, everyone here would be calling him a donkey

[udlock9]

very amazing call, daniel says both players playing very well, but the guy calling with K high on 3 streets is definitely playing much much better, cuz it way tougher to call out of position 3 times than a monkey fires 3 streets.

[bluffr22]

WOW!!!! respect for that!

[Stein912]

the guy wih the pink shirt looks alot like raywilliamjonhson

[guitarartis]

it all depends on what information you have on the player and if you know his tells, he obv had some information that allowed him to call down with just king high. Me i just never believe a bet from a guy with a mullet

haha jk

[mmnmnmmmnmmn]

@guitarartis Thank you, everyone it seems on youtube poker vids, seems to argue the right play, when the only information they have is how the hand played out, there missing several vital pieices of information to make the most optimal play possible.. The majority of the time no one other then the players at the table will be able to justify one play over the other..

The only way we can be 100 percent sure of what the right play would be is if the guy does have a mullet obviously. :)

[TheSazbak]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn

yeah golden rules of the youtube pros:

when a crazy move is made by a well known pro then it's an awesome play

if the same move is made by an unknown amateur then he is a donk

also they like to lay down monster hands if they're up against an even better hand(since they can see the cards) and comment things like "yeah obviously fold was the move here that guy is a donk for not being able to get away from his hand"

and after they close their browser they go playing 0.05/0.10 cg

[mmnmnmmmnmmn]

@TheSazbak Sounds about dead on too me.. :P

[qqleq2]

@TheSazbak Well, you rank yourself under the "Youtube pros" yourself, at least a little, with this comment. Because YES there is a big difference between Pro's and amateurs playing like this. The pros weigh into account all the hands they ever played with their opponent, and especially those of the past hours. Hand you don't see on tv. Amateurs don't. They imitate the hands they do see on TV or youtube. That makes them donks, and the pros pros. (yes, I am a donk too. Winning, but still donk.)

[TheSazbak]

@qqleq2

I dont get you. How does my comment rank myself under the YT pros? Just because someone isn't a pro that doesn't mean he is not thinking in hand ranges or doesn't take into account the things that you mentioned. "Donks" is just a subset of "Amateurs" not the same.

I wrote what I wrote because a lot of comments are totally biased on YT e.g. if Ivey lost a pot with pocket aces then noone would say anything but in case of an amateur "he is a donk who overplayed his aces".

[qqleq2]

@TheSazbak I may have not been clear enough but I ran into the maximum of characters YouTube allows ;-) What I meant: the pros, especially the big ones, are so much better than us amateurs at picking up information and thus so much better at making conclusions in these kind of situations (leaving aside that many amateurs don't pick up any info at all). That makes 99,9% of the amateurs a donk compared to them - being seated on one table, for instance. (Ah well, that's just a matter of words.)

[myNAMEhighGUY]

@mmnmnmmmnmmn why in the FRENCH TOAST are you posting comments on every poker vid on youtube, theres a reason, id like to know please, is it that you want ppl to think you are a pro or osmething?

[Th3Z0ne]

'Lykov' is Russian for Ray William Johnson

[JeeRaph]

@Th3Z0ne That's funny. Ray William Johnson is russian for dousche.

[GGRSC]

@Th3Z0ne Lykov is russian for faggot?

[danielbrauerboii]

@Th3Z0ne put in me carebox /_/ woops its emty

[S3xybek]

@Th3Z0ne Who is Ray William Johnson gtfo with that trolol

[Th3Z0ne]

@S3xybek he's the most subscribed person on youtube, idiot

[S3xybek]

@Th3Z0ne I was taking the piss, jesus people are retarded.

[siorisi]

@Th3Z0ne Hahaha he looks like RWJ

[samtheo7]

amazing call

[Waldquelle187]

A raise makes absolutely no sense, because opponent will fold every worse hand and call every better hand. Call or fold is the only option he has. And if he f.e. checkraises the flop or the turn, he doesnt rep anything, because he would never checkraise an Ace, AK he would raise preflop. There are only 3 combos with a 4, A4, 34s and 45s. His bb defending range is for sure so wide that he has much more bluffcombos in it than the 3 nutcombos. So this is just a very nice calldown, nh.

[lbadea2003]

@Waldquelle187

good comment

[IndependentScientist]

total fishplay - if he reraised onced tht would be a good play

[foreverguga]

@IndependentScientist

shutup you micro stakes grinder

[TheMitchThompson]

@foreverguga micro stakes grinder? lol you're watching a televised real life tourney, and then bashing someone as an online micro stakes player? who's to say he even plays online poker?? many really good live players dont even bother with online poker. they make more live

[IndependentScientist]

first he makes a bad call on flop, second he calls a bad bet on turn to a suspicious face, on river opponent looks like he´s totally scared - if he was calling Ax you wouldn´t put it here and call it genius or amazing

every suceeding action is genius??

[moctezuma2008]

@IndependentScientist lmao what are you talking about kid? please do yourself a favor and go and learn how to play poker before making an opinion. I personally have made a few calls with Ace and king high. and you really have to think A LOT here try to connect the patterns, physical tells and everything you can get. this is not easy specially when we talk about people who ACTUALLY know how to play poker. there's nothing wrong with either of these plays. they both read each other

[IndependentScientist]

@moctezuma2008

play some more, get a lil older and think about this hand again.

Looks like media got you controlled.

This definately is not good poker here and I´m sure Negreanu doesn´t think what he says.

If he has enough chips to try to buy himself an image of someone you better don´t bluff - well that would be the only good reason to play that way. If he is just tryin to be clever this is a bad play.

Don´t think someone acting on youtube like you is worth any answer, but liked the vid

[SocrTrump]

amazing call very very very few would be able to make all 3 calls.

[martysparty2042]

Nice call