Jorge Cardoso Milonga

[tsira2202]

einfach wunderschoen! Ich traeume, dass ich irgendwann mal soo schoen spielen kann :)

[krierg]

Hey man! Good! But, I am from argentina. This shold be very slow and expressive,most soft,most rubatto. Seen how the composer play this!

[Crystalflurry]

Too fast....

[MrPouria92]

This piece is full of feelings, he did not put any feelings in his performance

[MrPouria92]

This piece is full of feelings, he did not put any feelings in his performance!!

[kong023]

It faster than original I saw from youtube but yours give a different feelinng

[IMRezpected]

I like this one more than the original. Good job. by the way i subbed.

[ritenour79]

You gave the rhythm a life! I like your speedy & wavy tune. Many people don't know that they can find a deep emotion even in a  fast song. Feelings become different following translation.

[solmonoz]

Yorumunuz biraz,hizli ama teknik acidan gayet iyi,Cardoso'nun Milongasi ,enfes temasi ile oldukca populerligini yitirmedi, sizin kalitenizde yorumculardan daha cok seyler duymak istiyorum,tebrikler

[doroliva]

this is very fast

[thechristiaanb]

its too fast!

[testtamentt]

Çok güzel çalmışsınız tebrikler sizi dinlemek güzel.

[MyAccountxXD]

Damn you have flexible fingers... Definitely more flexible than mine... Respect, very well played, but, as Brian said, we need more feeling ;) 5*

[frusciante4eva]

cool :)

[insp96]

Gostei , mas acho está um pouco rápido.

Parabéns :)

[paikea1812]

very good milonga

[BrianTaylor75]

speedy gonzales! flawless fingering but lacks emotionally. milonga should be slower and there should be more feeling to it. and sometimes variations on the play, like eating from a mixed box of chocolate. this version must be the chili dark chocolate one from the box:-) cheers for uploading it. we need variety.

[frablu3s]

good job, but in opinion too fast...

[meteguitar]

dostum eline sağlık teknik olarak gayet iyi.. yalnız biraz fazla hızlı olmuş , bunun bir romans olduğunu düşünüp nüansları vermeye gayret

[CemGunenc]

Sevgili Mete yorumunuzdan yola çıkarak müzisyen olduğunuzu varsayıyorum çünkü eserin icra şeklini, yapısını biliyorsunuz ki bana tavsiyelerde bulunuyorsunuz. Milonga'nın herşeyden önce bir dans olduğunu unutmamak gerekli. Bu bir Arjantin dansı ise tempodaki esnekliği göz ardı etmemek gerekir. Siz de diğerleri gibi kulaklarınızın alıştığı icra biçimini duymak istiyorsunuz.

[CemGunenc]

Farklı duyumlara da bir şans verin tempoyu hızlandırıp basta oluşan aksanı düşünerek oluşan yeni formu yakalamaya çalışın. Bu icra biçimim ile birçok Arjantinli müzisyenden takdir gördüm ayrıca çok doğru çaldığımı Milonga formunun farklı tempolarda farklı biçimlere büründüğünü söylediler. Siz daha benim eser icrası sırasında ne yaptığımı anlayamamışsınız. Asıl siz farklı açıdan dinleyerek nüansları duymaya gayret edin lütfen.

[Ti1To3SaN5Ta7Na9]

@CemGunenc Hocam,o aksan milongada 2nci 16 lık sese gelmiyor mu milongada?hani şu 1.tel varya mi mii diye sürekli giden.

[vernonore]

Lovely playing Behzat, 5 stars.

[Inblut]

let it breathe...

[a1z1d1]

pues muy bueno, eso si, está muy rápida quizá un poco mas lento solo un poco para poder entender el tema fundamental pero fuera de hay muy bien!!!!

[Yzhak1990]

He visto otros videos tuyos. Me agrada como tocas, pero pues la verdad esta pieza te quedó demasiado rápida, trata de ponerle mas sentimiento y menos ganas de darle velocidad.

Suerte!

[sa16244a]

No creo que la velocidad sea demasiado rápida. Hay milongas que lo son aún más. Sólo habría que realizar alguna que otra variación en el tempo a fin de que no sea tan "cuadrado", es decir que quedaría mejor la interpretación si hubiera algunas detenciones y aceleraciones en el tempo. El mismo critero de variación lo aplicaría a los matices.

Aparte de lo dicho se nota que le pone sentimiento, que aunque no sea el sentir argentino, es sentimiento al fin.

[Entrust91]

Nice But too fast , slow down a bit and it's excellent.

[otaviolcosta]

tooo fast!!!!!!!!!!!

no feeling of the song.

You have to fell to play.

If you don´t fell, DON´T PLAY IT

[kumgangpoepsa]

Too fast!!! You probably never heard a milonga, which is a slow tempo song, full of melancholy and sadness, inspired by the wide and open fields in La Pampa, an Argentinian area.

Try to listen a true milonga and please slow down the tempo

[eduugr]

Hey... take it ease dude. He's a great guitarrist and if you hear his other plays you wil easely understand why.

The song is ok... the feeling is there, there's just a lack of cultural knowladge...

JORGE, you rock man... just listen some Milongas or come to argentina some day ! ;)

[kumgangpoepsa]

I take it easy, but if you are an argentinian you should understand me, listen to Yupanqui, and many other great guitar players playing milongas, and then tell me. You can't ruin a style playing that fast only to show that you can play fast. Music isn't related to speed at all. It's related to a deep understanding of feelings. I don't say he can't play or he isn't a good guitar player. I said: milongas aren't that fast.

[eduugr]

For sure Kumga... I do understand what you mean. But I think that, in this particular case, I wouldn't believe that he is RUINING our so loved milonga...

I just see it like this: he was not born in Argentina. He dont live and breath our culture. That's why, in my honest opinion, he is makeing he's own interpretation...

It would be more reazonable to just say "Hey dude, you are a good guitarrist, but if u want to play a milonga the right way, take this video out / listen to this stuff /etc"

[kumgangpoepsa]

Y eso es lo que dije! Simplemente creo que toca muy bien, es obvio, y le dije nomás que escuchara milongas para tener idea del tempo justo y del "sabor" de esa música. Haber nacido o no en el lugar no afecta, porque guitarristas de cualquier parte del mundo pueden tocar Bach o todo tipo de música, la idea es que hay que conocer un poco la música que uno va a tocar, la cultura, lo que hay detrás de esa música. Saludos

[YOAMOALAARGENTINA]

weeeee tocas re bien¡¡¡

algun dia voy a tocas tan bien como vos jajaja y voy a bajar un video

[rochazzz]

amazing job man, playing faster is another way to interpretate the music and must be respected, even more when its played so clear like that, gj!

[nikosz66]

agree clear but speedy,when you have something m a g i c in your hands you

want to keep it as long as possible

[DC180]

way toooo fast..... nicely played though damn your clean.

[07fasol]

j'aimerai tant avoir cette tablature

ce serrait possible auprès de vous?

vous jouez très bien, il y a du sentiment la...

[joaquinbatata]

muy prolijo te felicito che!!!

[JPBravo08]

I like it, I think it'd sound better using different tones though

[Isake99]

La canción se ha de tocar más lenta puesto que el compás así lo marca y también cortas el sonido en los cambios de posición, aun así muy bien ^^

[oceanplanet602]

I note with interest the comments that CemGunenc plays this tune too fast....and yet on his version of Terrega's Capricho Arabe many say he plays too slow. In the end, it's his personal interpretations of these magnificient pieces that matters. It seems he plays them exactly the way he wants to hear and feel them...and the result is truly fantastic. Great stuff.

[CemGunenc]

Thank you Ocean. you understood me. People want to hear these masterpieces exactly same as they heard from old masters. i dont want to play same as others. i dont want to play as original. i dont care if 5 billion people play it slow. i want to play as i imagine and i want. milonga is a dance and i want to dance little faster and more passion. thats all. best wishes from Istanbul.

[oceanplanet602]

You are most welcome! I am not a classical player, but I were to chose any classical piece in the world to play it would be your version of Capricho Arabe! I am starting on it....in a few years I may have something...;-)

[gd3cmeg8]

Yes, it's good that you play it like YOU wish, because music is supposed to give YOU lot of fun. I also play Cardoso's Milionga and it's one of my favourites, and, of course, I don't play it exactly like You. I play the accompaniment a bit more quietly and that would be the only difference... Then nice interpretation, and I have to go, my bus is goin'g to arrive in a few minutes ;)

[minikcin]

You play correct! This is true but is it the only thing to be done?

Slower man, slower... Cool down. This should make us relax. This not a piece to make speed record.

[hardlain]

temp-lento!

its not milonga

[key2kingdom]

just added this tune to youtube myself. don't blame you for playing it fast, although your reason may be musical. mine was I was getting fed up with screwing up more laid-back renditions of it and having to re-take, so ended up playing it fast just to get it over with. Anyway, the comments supporting your choice of tempo are reassuring. Keep on rockin' in the free world!

[wryone]

I can't believe you're still getting ragged for your tempo on this piece. Yes, if this milonga is played slowly it's more melancholic -- however, when played faster it expresses a delicious urgency.

[Why do so many demand conformity?]

[landerandrade]

Muy hermoso. Amigo, puede enviarme la partitura de esa música "Milonga"? Puede ser en cualquiera de las formas de archivo .enc, .mus o .pdf ¿Quién es el compositor? Saludos de Brasil.

[gjmf]

Hey... Esta cancion no es tan rapida... Pero igual la tecnica es muy muy buena. Solo que al tocarla tan rapido pierde un poco de la melancolia de la pieza original. Aunque la velocidad y la tecnica no creo que sea lo mas importante. La interpretacion es buena pero este clasico tiene otro temperamento.

[racitifrancesco]

i wish i could play so fast...but yes that's not they way to play this

[DaGuittarMan]

The main characteristic of a Milonga movement is the suffering contained inside every note.

Playing fast like that is really hard to get that feeling of pain.

Try slowing it down a little bit, you can play fast, but sometimes speed is not the most important thing.

Think about that.

[BlueJazzyClassic]

Great playing. Meanwhile I heard that there are two milongas one is fast milionga and the other is very slow milonga and this song is the latter one. Kindly check out how Russell slows this song.

[palpatron]

too quick, learn rhythm's better

[RawMeat3000]

What does it matter if it's a little faster than the original? It doesn't have to be an exact copy of the original to be good.

[kharyab]

2 fast,fals tempo,then no feeling,no milonga!

[kiftek]

this must be slower,but if he want...

If he correct his little mistakes and play a bit slower - it will be professional play

[Sevcan22]

bu arakdaş çalışıyla ilgili yapılan eleştirileri siliyor comments ten.umarım dikkate alıp diliyordur çünkü yanlış açlışyıor.yine söylüyoerum atlı koşturur gibi.ayrıca legato lara dayalı bu parçada legato bile yapmamış.sadece hızını test etmeye çalışıyor ama yanlış seçim

[sgarantz]

you are an inspired player cem! god bless you and your sponsoring father :-)

[srhtcs]

maybe he could play better

[Gitarim19]

gökteki yıldızların hepsini indiriyorum.

[kansasstring]

La interpretacion es exelente, ademas el tema espectacular. Muy buen tema.

[dbacar]

Cardoso Odtuye geldiginde bu parcayi yanlis caldi, rezil etti birakti. Pes dedim, o bile takiliyosa artik.

[go9zu]

Very nice playing,you can feel the music.

[ryne1414]

where did you find the tab for the this?

[Gothos]

music for acoustic is meant for notes :-)

[holokinesis]

sometimes meant for chords too. :)

[holokinesis]

lol, I got -1 for this? Can you see how many chords he's playing there? I hope you see them in his playing eventually.

[ivanelmaldito]

Va demasiado rapido pero se escucha bien

[regozini]

and why aren't you famous?!

[I1the9n87]

Ya güzel çalmışsın ama biraz daha duygulu çalmalısın...

[sabitdeli]

gayet güzel...ıccccccık daha yavaş olsa çok daha güzel olur...eline sağlık...

[naturanaturans]

2 kind of milogas as Argentine composer Gorge Morel says. one slow and on little faster. his has similar milonga. and you play is great. Yet also I think this becomes well with slower milongatango too.

[ralfiona]

ahmet kanneci is a grade 8 guitarist he has a long way to go yet ....my friend....and this played now needs a better depth sounding guitar other than that its ok

[0AZ099]

Argentina !Argentina! evocation of a lost paradise ! I like this playing very much !

Thank you, Cem !

[SephirothGX]

cok süper calmissin bir bravo benden sana^^

ben de yavas yavas bu parcayi calma basladim ama biraz zorluk cekiyorum...ama zamanla olur insallah ;-)

gercekten bravo sana

[pederdelsolar]

bence bu parça hızlı tempoyu da çok güzel taşıyor, hatta parçanın ana teması hızlı çalınmak için yazılmış gibi geliyor kulağa, bence Kanneci yavaş çalmış. J.Cardoso'yu da ODTÜ de canlı dinlemiştim, o da Kanneci den hızlı çalıyordu mesela,tabii Kanneci de ordaydı ve sağlam bi "bravo" patlatmıştı o zaman. İşe yarar bir anektot:)

[Fabjan2007]

I like this melody very much !

[lorobolo]

hey nice playing but I agree the song needs to be played slower and with more feeling. goob job!

[classicoolyo]

correction noted, thx! i just heard it in duet once and figuerd...

[classicoolyo]

great playing man, five stars, but i have to agree with stevesteezy, it's a bit too fast (not depressing, this is a butiful piece) and one last thing- it's not a solo piece, it has a seconed part for another guitar :)

[Rozinante61]

Sorry but this piece IS a solo arrangement with a second guitar as an option when played in duet form.

[ayihen]

ii ahmet kanneciyi dinlesen daha ii

[5cachi]

Jorge Cardoso is the Best!!!!!!

[meguchi1]

my friend, Jorge Cardoso is the composer not the interpreter.

[kemalkis]

Tebrikler Cem kardesim. Herkez gibi calma hızını eleştirmeyeceğim.Bence gayet iyi. Bir de Ahmet Kanneci'nin yorumunu dinlersen belki daha da iyilestirebilirsin. Kolay gelsin. Basarilar.

[stevestizzy]

great play but really to fast!!! this song needs to be playd slower and with more feeling!!!

For me that song is very depressing!!! Good work by the way! 5 stars (you earned them)

[perperik]

çok iyi çalıyorsun evet yalnız odurki fazla hızlı kanımca.. parçanın keyfi kalmamış pek. minör tonun duygusallığını verebilirdn biraz daha..

[barbublanc]

Superbe on se lasse pas de l'écouter!!

[serro17]

perfect, just beautiful. i'm learnign the song now, and you're deff. the vid i'll be watching to keep note of, great playing

[masalhayat]

hocam eline sağlık birde ağrı dağın eteğinde alsak beea :)

[hotgrandemocha]

Hocam super.Eline saglik...

[genoluck]

Beautiful playing (just a little bet to fast)nice and precise, congratulations, by the way can you tell me how can I find the Tabs for piece?

[mergovan]

parçanın orijinal hızı nasıl bilmiyorum ama bence bu yorum, çalma şekli mükemmel, tebrikler...

[Ibuki1961]

very beautifuly played

[CemGunenc]

i understand what you mean you want to feel the strings more bright more live.Sound is weak because of the mic. at first recording i used the mic of my web cam.Now i am using a stupid computer mic it sounds better but for real guitar sound we need a condenser microphone which is minimum 250$ :)

[echever7]

I becoming one of your fans. But the same as in Maxixa and La Catedral de Barrios Mangore, I feel some weakness in some places of the compositions. Of course, thats not the same to listen to a record made in a pro studio. Or may be, I`m getting deaf.

[Larry1989]

You know there's a 2nd guitar part to play this with.

Bit slower with more feeling would be nice but you played the notes perfectly, not so easy.

[wryone]

Lovely! Music is like passion -- sometimes slow, sometimes quick. Don't let your passion be ruled by a metronome.

[CemGunenc]

thx that was a very nice comment.Most of the people want the pieces played exactly same as the version which in their mind play.

[lazy71]

tebrikler iyi calmisin ama bence bu parcanın giris kismini yavas calinca tam super oluo;)

[fede1886]

I like it. I´m Argentinian, and i feel proud of your Milonga feel

[xsknight]

i agree more slow

[crazysky2000]

tempo is just right - what are you talking about?

[zazzidog]

I totally concur with you. too many guitar performances receive unjustifiably high ratings just on the basis of speed. this is not music but rather an

aggregation of notes sans artistry!

[zazzidog]

what's the rush? Need to make more song like, romantic and mysterious!

[watercolour]

I totally agree, this performance is nice except it is a bit too fast (IMO only). I tend to enjoy this piece much better when it is played slower, which will give it more sense of romance and mystery.

[beyamca]

az daha yavaş çalsan klasına daha uyardı bence ama yinede baya baya iyi

[merdanegilli]

eline sağlık Cem, çok güzel çalmışsın.

[aegilli]

Hi Cem. Congrats. You really play perfect. Have you got other clips on youtube? Cenap

[palqueseva]

sorunsuz ve güzel bence ama daha yavası daha güzel

[basistanbul]

Here is my favourite milonga.Life is good with you :)em

[vonus]

omg this is very nice, have seen all your videos...cant wait to see what are you going to upload next...

[anayro]

we just uploaded a dueto version of it, slower than you, though...

thanks

PS maybe you should do the "trinos" in the melody

[Pinhan000]

it is really very very nice to listen to it in this way.. thanks a lot..

[CemGunenc]

thx iris i play a little fast because whole score has repetation and i feel bored when i repeat all once again.

[iriswisteria]

I played and uploaded the same one today, a little less smooth than you! very nice!