Why would anyone want to do this? Its bad enough when you end up with a squared off MC tyre, but to start off with one from a car - no thanks! I would understand it if it was on a trike, but on two wheels I think its just retarded....
@markjrobbins On a 900lb Goldwing, a run flat car tire is the safest tire available. Car tires are certainly not for every motorcycle, only a select few that when fully loaded, approach and surpass the weight limits on factory tires. Use common sense people, you can't put a Goldwing down on frame sliders like a sport bike.
If you watch this video you will see in several spots the bike leaning, only slightly in a genital turn, like are the 40sec mark and the tire rides on the edge which leaves only a small contact patch. This is significant because a car tire uses a very hard rubber compound (why car tires last longer) that does not grip nearly as well as the soft rubber on a motorcycle tire.
small contact patch in a turn + hard rubber = much, much less grip in the corners than a motorcycle tire
I'm sick of putting a new $300. bridgestone on my 1800 GL every 10,000 km or so. The car tire might be a little less stable in the twisties but not too bad. My buddy has 50,000 km on his Valkerie/ car tire and the tire still has lots of life in it. I'm going to give it a wirl next time around.
I imagine it would be fine for touring / moderate street riding. But I wouldn't drag a knee with a car tire. I had a el-cheapo squared off tire on the back of my yamaha xs500d. It wasn't good in corners, I did an accidental drift once, and nearly shat myself...
@rickeggett Absolutely.....the car tire absolutely destroys the motorcycle rear tire especially in the rain, loose gravel roads is another great place to show how the car tire is better....
It is not underinflated on a bike. Manufacturer's pressure is for the weight of a car, and at 1/3 of that weight (bike) less is needed. Also, the sidewall must flex for half the tread to stay on the deck, which is one of the reasons it outgrips a bike tire. It is also a softer durometer hardness. Too much pressure will make it follow irregularities worse than a bike tire. Too little and it wallows in the sweepers.
I keep seeing these, what a stupid idea this is. you have a contact patch smaller than the mass of all your common sense pooled into one spot. If all you "Darkside" riders would put the bikes in the ditch from this, maybe it would be like hurd immunity and the stupid notion that a car tire on a motorcycle is a good idea would be out of the collective minds of motorcyclists.
@5thredline The contact patch is far superior unless the motorcycle is at extreme lean angle. I run a run flat car tire on the rear of my 2010 Goldwing. It's better than ANY motorcycle tire available for my motorcycle since there is no run flat motorcycle tire available for my model. For the Goldwing, it's the safest and best tire by far as a fully loaded Goldwing can approach 1600lbs. Heavier load rating, vastly superior performance in heavy rain. It's not for all motorcycles....
This video did more damage to the world of darksiding than any. The guy didn't even try to find the right air pressure before filming, so naysayers are using this one to denounce the concept. Half the tread should be on the deck in a corner.
I wonder if the pepole that say the ct on a mc is dangerous are the same people I see wearing shorts flipflops no helment and riding 20 mph over the posted speed
A friend of mine has a car tire on his Goldwing. It works perfectly. Too much bank angle and you drag hardware on the bike before the tire can become a problem.
Look at the size of the contact area on the car tire. There is more contact area than a typical motorcycle tire. Compound make up may not be as sophisticated as a motorcycle tire but this set up works and it works well.
I have watched the car tire perform in all kinds of conditions and it is rock solid.
A friend of mine has a car tire on his Goldwing. It works perfectly. Too much bank angle and you drag hardware on the bike before the tire can become a problem.
Look at the size of the contact area on the car tire. There is more contact area than a typical motorcycle tire. Compound make up may not be as sophisticated as a motorcycle tire but this set up works and it works well.
I have watched the car tire perform in all kinds of conditions and it is rock solid.
i read a couple of comments saying that a ct is dangerous , it's a bad idea ,blablableh even one going on about the physics about motorcycling and how dangerous this is (tire goes round and round i go forward , TADA ! i think every biker gets how it works) the danger is the idiot who doesnt know how to drive not the tire, looks to me that there is plenty of grip on the road , seems like a lot of people love driving it , i'm just wondering how ill a ct handle with some snow ?
Just put a car tire on my Suzuki Intruder 1500LC (Nov. 20010). LOVE IT! I have over 100k on this bike and have gone thru a bunch of m/c tires. Wish I would have done this years ago. I commute every day 80 miles round trip and my car tire is GREAT! I go about 60 miles freeway and about 20 city streets. NO PROBLEMO.
Something I haven oticed about people making statements towards motorcycles running car tires is that these people have NEVER run a CT on theier bikes or even ridden one with a CT on it...therefore, in myopinion, they dont know what they are talking about. I have a Kumho 195/55/16 RF on my Goldwing and it runs perfect. So far I have had it up to 125 with no ill effects. Traction is way up with no noticeable difference in cornering...lean into it and go. The pluses...at least 30K miles on this CT
@shooteraod Maybe it works for cruisers and you dont spend enough time on the sidewall for it to start coming apart. But the FACT is that you are increasing the risk of a mishap, maybe slightly, but still increasing. And i dont have to go out and do that to know that what i just said is a fact. And even if someone had a mishap, who is going to get on youtube and say, yeah im the dumbass that crashed cause i put a CT on my motorcycle? nobody is going to do that. Thats why you never hear abt probs
As far as I'm concerned, I will never go back to a M/C rear tire on my GL 1800. This tire has superior traction and rideability. It is quiter than any other tire I have ever used and the ride is smoother. I ride two up quite a bit and the mileage is great.
I know, you "nay sayers" think we are crazy but I ride about 25,000 miles a year and that's crazy too. So what?
I'm now riding on my 3rd Continental Pro-Contact SSR (Self Supporting Rin Flat) 195/55/16 on my 2006 Gold Wing. The first tire I ran with 34 psi, too hard and wore out the center in 22,750 miles. The 2nd (same tire size and brand) I ran 26 psi very agressivly and wore out the sidewalls in just over 18,000 miles. The one I have on now has only been on the bike for about 5000 miles at 30 psi and I hope to get at least 30,000 miles out of it.
Tomorrow (Oct. 18th, 2010) I;m heading to MA from CO.
I'm puttin a car tire on my 04 wing tired of buyin 2 tires a season gets exspensive. i have a friend who rode with us from wv to cal. on a valkyrie interstate he now has over 30k on the car tire an still looks good. i caint get more than 7k out of a motorcycle tire.
the contact patch isnt really any smaller than a mc tire in the corners...dirt bike tires have way less touching...i wouldnt recomend high performance ridding but for a gl it looks ok...imo...i wonder if you could put motocross tires on a jeep?
I know 5 people that are running car tires on their bikes. They have been for years now. I ride with them on curves, rain and highway riding. They have no problems. I have not had a true "physics person" tell me why this is working or not. But i see it working. It wears better, seems better in rain, and absorbs bumps better. If i could put one on my bikes i would do it tomorrow. People freak out cause its a "car tire". Think out of the box. dare you.
i run car tires on my zx12r ninja pro street bike all the time and they work great the only problem i have run into is the tires speed rating. it limits me to about 170mph but i only use them for pro street bikes and at the drag strip but they work better than cycle drag tires and are way cheaper
Not just the size of the contact patch that matters but the tire temperature as well. Car tires are designed for hevier vechicles, they dont get warm enough on a bike.
You can tell by the oversized contact area (where the rubber meets the road) that this IS safe. The special "motorycle" tires are PLOY and people have been calling schinagins on them for years. If you want safe affordtable MC tires, use VERY good quality car tires. You want to use a bt less than HALF the PSI when upgrading to car tires. So, if the tire is normally for 35 PSI, you want to use around 15 PSI for maximum safety/reliablity/comforty. If you are going to be going VERY fast, you
Why would anyone do this? Dragging pegs is dangerous in and of itself, even on a goldwing, but with a car tire? It's cheating death. The contact patch on that fucker couldn't have been more than half an inch wide at full lean. Scary.
most bike contact patch is pretty small, not that im saying this is a smart thing to do but, for instance in moto grand prix the idea is the less contact the more maneuvering..its a hard concept to swallow. but again car tire not exactly smart. say your stuck in some bumfuck town and need a tire, well id make that work until the nearest bike shop.
why are draging the feelers dangerous. They are there to tell you that if you lean much more you are doing to scrap other things or lose the edge of your tire
@vivitar45 those aren't gears grinding you idiot. those are the floorboards of the bike scrapping the ground. that's actually a sign of being able to handle the bike accurately without dumping it. You can't grind gears on a bike either. Do your homework before you start commenting on things you obviously don't know about
@vivitar45 OMG YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING RETARD I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. ITS NOT THE GEARS GRINDING ITS THE FUCKING WIND BLOWING INTO THE MIC ON THE CAMERA.
What I dont get is why people bother to do this? If it is to save money, what about the front tyre? They must be extremely boring riders if they dont have to replace the front tyre as often as the rear, so at best they are only saving one tyre for every 4 tyres they would have otherwise changed. And what about the obviously increased probability of crashes and the costs involved in that? So you ruin your bikes handling, safety and looks in exchange for maybe $50 less costs every 30,000km.
This is simply amazing to me. As I see it, there are two groups of folks on either side of this religion (that's really what this is, if you think about it).
1. Those that have done it and will never look back.
2. Those that have never tried a CT on a MC and shout from the rooftops that "It can't be done!" and "It can't be safe!" and "You're going to die in a fiery crash!"
If you think they're so stupid - let them kill themselves. Settle down, people!
You're right morten - no one would EVER advocate that! Motorcycle tires became rounded in profile when sport bikes came around. Before that, they were all pretty much square. Big cruisers and touring bikes are the only place these are recommended.
Well, the reason you'll get better mileage with a CT is because the rubber compound is harder. Plus they're rated heavier. This vid clearly shows high-siding the stepped edge on curves. It may be a little overinflated for the reduced weight load. But I won't diss a bikerider who is aware of the issue & rides accordingly. I ride a harley sidecar, and because I run in the center of the tire I sure could use a CT, but no sizes will fit my app, replacing an MT 16-90-130. Oh well. Ride Safe & Free!
Long story short, I was about to flip to the darkside when I came across the Dunlop Wintersport 3D Runflat in a Honda Level 5 Powerhouse Dealer. The tire had a FULL failure on the corner, or edge, almost 90% around the tire. Wicked bad, yet PERFECTLY TIMED, sign for us to stay away from them.
Hey Dummies before 1980 all tires were square. There was no rounded edge tires. Do your history if you can think back that long. Rounded edge tires came out when sport bikes were introduced.
Hey Dummie YOU do your history just look up some pictures of the 1903 harley THEY HAD ROUND TIRES OMG!!!! who the hell told you round tires didnt come out till 1980?
I would never risk my life to save a few bucks. Look how little tread is making contact in turns. Why do you think bike tires are rounded. Do yourself a favor and either sell your bike or buy the right tires for your bike.
I have been riding street bikes for over 39 years and Goldwings for 30 years. I don't care how great that these people say car tires are on a wing! This is just plain stupid. Bikes were not designed for car tires and yes, your insurance company can refuse a claim and invalidate your insurance.
Also it is usually against the law to change or modify anything from the factory. I wouldn't want to run the twisties with a car tire. It is not the same no matter what these people say.
It is like a car. The rear is a single tire powered by the Goldwing. The front has 2 tires and is a VW front end with car tires. The rear doesn't lean in the turns so the tire wears out faster due to the flatening out of the rounded "bike tire". Hence the use of a car tire. Hope that clears up your opinion.
After looking at more videos of car tires on M/c, especially-vstarman84,I have to admit that it doesn't appear to be as bad as i had imagined. I still say insurers will look for reasons to not pay out. And i will stick to M/c tires on my '84 Goldwing. Again (with the taste of crow in my mouth) after viewing more videos of big bikes with car tires, it would appear that that the profile of the car tire isn't that much of a problem.
Again, having been screwed by an insurance company (truck-geico), they are in business TO NOT PAY OUT!! They don't make any money paying off claims. Why in the hell would they pay off if you had tires that were not (in US) DOT approved for said application?
I would advise that you check with your insurer.I don't know how you ride your 'wing, but with the interstate freeways, I am often around the ton and occaisionly get some sparks off the pegs, I wouldn't do it w/ car rubber. Do what u will!
Having been fucked by an insurance company in the US (geico-truck) i have learned that an insurance company's purpose is to NOT PAY CLAIMS! I would be willing to bet my last dollar that if you try to make a claim, regardless of the details, and they find you have an auto tire on your bike, they will use it as an execuse to not pay!! I also will bet that in those reams of small print there will be notice that if anything isn't "correct" or contraindicated they will do exactly that! Your choice!
having anything other than the correct recommended size and TYPE of tyre on a motorcycle invalidates its insurance. if you had an accident your insurance wont pay out, because you have a CAR tyre on a MOTORCYCLE
That may be true where you live, but here in the USA we have not let our solons thrash the motorcycle community into a babbling glob of ectoplasm. Get a life!
Please get your information correct before spouting 'facts'. The only time an insurance company will refuse to pay out is if it can be proven that an aftermarket modification CAUSED the accident. That's not just tyres, that's ANY mod you make to your bike that is not 'stock' How many bikes do you know of that are still 100% as they left the factory? The ONLY legal issue with a car tyre is the tread depth, as it is with a motorcycle tyre. If it's bald, they won't pay.
check your insurance, i'm afraid your wrong. car tyres WILL invalidate your insurance as they are not intended for use on motorcycles, even running at the wrong pressure or using the wrong speed rating can invalidate insurance, even if it is not the tyre that causes the crash. running a car tyre on a bike is extremely stupid. having worked in insurance, and seen claims rejected (and people prosecuted) due to unsuitable tyres being used, i do know what i'm talking about.
"and seen claims rejected (and people prosecuted)"
I challenge you to find a single case in the UK where a person has been prosecuted for using a car tyre on a motorcycle. The ONLY prosecutions you will find is where a tyre has been used that is marked 'not for use on public roads'.
While you're at it, find a tyre that says either 'for car use only' or 'for motorcycle use only'.
i would like to advise anybody who's thinking about a CT to watch the video again. As the bike leans the contact patch is decreasing in size and the side forces are increasing. Throw in something like rain, wet leaves, sand or gravel or any other factor that will decrease traction and you are looking for a combination that could lead to disaster! MC tires have a different profile than a car for a very important purpose. TRACTION WHEN THE BIKE IS LEANING!! Just my two cents worth, but think!!
And can I suggest that you check out vstarman84 and HIS video of a car tyre. The tyre on this video, in my opinion is slightly over inflated, hence the smaller contact patch, you will see a VAST difference on vstarman84's video. I run a Pirelli Eufori runflat on my GL1800 at 32psi and get FAR superior traction and rubber on the road in the wet/gravel/snow than I did with a motorcycle tyre. Each to their own.
reply to infidel:I think you are missing my point. Straight up-yes more traction. Watch the tire when it leans, a lot LESS traction. The inertial forces are coming from the side, You now have smaller contact patch-throw in wet leaves, rain, snow or ice and at the most crucial time you'll have less traction and will be more suseptible to crash. I don't ride in snow, if i had to, i'd probably feel better with a big car snow tire, apart from that i'll stick with m/c tires. Its your choice!
For those of you that haven't tried using a CT on a MC, you shouldn't be so quick to judge the results. Ride is much smoother, mileage is increased by 400 to 500%. More tire on the road, even while cornering. I will put up my CT vs a MC tire anyday...
2006 VTX1800N
Goodyear Triple Tred 205-60-16 tire $130.00
200-60-16 MC Tire $230.00
That's over a $1000.00 year in rear tires alone including mounting and balancing of the tire...
I think I'm going to try it on my GL1800 because of the limited traction using an m/c tire. This looks like it'll work better and I can buy 2 of these for the price of one m/c tire. Maybe I'll get one z rated and one M&S for riding to prudoe bay!!!
its easy to see how it stays flat(thus the bike rides on the corner edge of the tire) when cornering, this would look scary to most, but now think on this; rubber to road surface contact is X compared to a new Dunlop with no cupping is X? and then compare it to a cupped Dunlop X?? Would it not be very fair to say there is likely more rubber to surface with the car tire than with the cupped bike tire compared to a car tire
Perfect example of why car tires should be on cars, and motorcycle tires should be on motorcycles. It's scary to see how small the contact patch gets when the bike leans in a turn.
This may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Do you understand the physics of motorcycling? Can you explain the differences between auto and bike tires that make this dangerous?
I don't run a car tire on my Goldwing and I never will. Take the time to read about why I posted it and you'll understand. There are darksiders that do run car tires and people had questions about the contact patch. I just turn the video right side up. I didn't take the video!
They are made with the tire pattern / contact patch to be around the tire. B/C motorcycle lean during turn. that way motor cycle tires maintain contact patch during cornering / lean etc.
Car tire has a flat contact patch. do you see while the motorcycle is turning / leaning. the contact patch reduce because the car tire has flat contact patch.
Lose contact patch during cornering = losing grip on the road = Crash
Just in addition to the contact patch. Most MC tyres are made of more than one compound, the stickier stuff at sides, and the harder stuff in the middle as thats the part of the tyre that is used more.
On a side note has anyone ever viciously banked over on a squared off tyre? I sure as hell notice the differendce, frightens 7 shades out of me. Just my 2p worth
The camera was probably mounted upside down to the frame by a steel strap and a 1/4-20 screw in the tripod mount hole, hence the original being upside down. I'd like to see pictures of that bike.
This isn't my video. I'm not a darksider but the guy that took the video couldn't figure out how to get it right side up. All I did was flip it 180 degrees and then tell him how I did it.
Any particular reason why a car tire versus a motorcycle tire? The other curiosity ... how did you mount the camera and what kind of camera? Thank you and safe riding.
while you're at it, don't forget to armor all it!
hellostevelee 3 months ago
Why would anyone want to do this? Its bad enough when you end up with a squared off MC tyre, but to start off with one from a car - no thanks! I would understand it if it was on a trike, but on two wheels I think its just retarded....
markjrobbins 4 months ago
@markjrobbins On a 900lb Goldwing, a run flat car tire is the safest tire available. Car tires are certainly not for every motorcycle, only a select few that when fully loaded, approach and surpass the weight limits on factory tires. Use common sense people, you can't put a Goldwing down on frame sliders like a sport bike.
Oso1G 4 months ago
If you watch this video you will see in several spots the bike leaning, only slightly in a genital turn, like are the 40sec mark and the tire rides on the edge which leaves only a small contact patch. This is significant because a car tire uses a very hard rubber compound (why car tires last longer) that does not grip nearly as well as the soft rubber on a motorcycle tire.
small contact patch in a turn + hard rubber = much, much less grip in the corners than a motorcycle tire
MotorcycleGuy2000 5 months ago
I'm sick of putting a new $300. bridgestone on my 1800 GL every 10,000 km or so. The car tire might be a little less stable in the twisties but not too bad. My buddy has 50,000 km on his Valkerie/ car tire and the tire still has lots of life in it. I'm going to give it a wirl next time around.
blueturtleman1 5 months ago
I imagine it would be fine for touring / moderate street riding. But I wouldn't drag a knee with a car tire. I had a el-cheapo squared off tire on the back of my yamaha xs500d. It wasn't good in corners, I did an accidental drift once, and nearly shat myself...
slurp812 6 months ago
Lets try this is the rain !!
rickeggett 7 months ago
@rickeggett Absolutely.....the car tire absolutely destroys the motorcycle rear tire especially in the rain, loose gravel roads is another great place to show how the car tire is better....
Oso1G 6 months ago
Wow, are some people full of shit!
themanfromporlock 7 months ago
i turned 180º my head 0.0 for see it? NICE!:D
andresen3igear 7 months ago
An 850 lb motorcycle taking a turn on one tiny corner of the wrong compound tire.. Good luck.
rocketman697 8 months ago
It is not underinflated on a bike. Manufacturer's pressure is for the weight of a car, and at 1/3 of that weight (bike) less is needed. Also, the sidewall must flex for half the tread to stay on the deck, which is one of the reasons it outgrips a bike tire. It is also a softer durometer hardness. Too much pressure will make it follow irregularities worse than a bike tire. Too little and it wallows in the sweepers.
quadancer1 9 months ago
I keep seeing these, what a stupid idea this is. you have a contact patch smaller than the mass of all your common sense pooled into one spot. If all you "Darkside" riders would put the bikes in the ditch from this, maybe it would be like hurd immunity and the stupid notion that a car tire on a motorcycle is a good idea would be out of the collective minds of motorcyclists.
5thredline 9 months ago 2
@5thredline The contact patch is far superior unless the motorcycle is at extreme lean angle. I run a run flat car tire on the rear of my 2010 Goldwing. It's better than ANY motorcycle tire available for my motorcycle since there is no run flat motorcycle tire available for my model. For the Goldwing, it's the safest and best tire by far as a fully loaded Goldwing can approach 1600lbs. Heavier load rating, vastly superior performance in heavy rain. It's not for all motorcycles....
Oso1G 6 months ago
many people run car tires on the rear of their larger motorcycles, it works fantastic and they last 3 times longer.
MrPeterharold 10 months ago
This video did more damage to the world of darksiding than any. The guy didn't even try to find the right air pressure before filming, so naysayers are using this one to denounce the concept. Half the tread should be on the deck in a corner.
quadancer1 11 months ago 2
@quadancer1 So, you are saying that it is OK to run an improper tire on your motorcycle, if you under inflate it?
rocketman697 9 months ago
I wonder if the pepole that say the ct on a mc is dangerous are the same people I see wearing shorts flipflops no helment and riding 20 mph over the posted speed
txctydrvr 11 months ago
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A friend of mine has a car tire on his Goldwing. It works perfectly. Too much bank angle and you drag hardware on the bike before the tire can become a problem.
Look at the size of the contact area on the car tire. There is more contact area than a typical motorcycle tire. Compound make up may not be as sophisticated as a motorcycle tire but this set up works and it works well.
I have watched the car tire perform in all kinds of conditions and it is rock solid.
Try it you'll like it
metoones 1 year ago
A friend of mine has a car tire on his Goldwing. It works perfectly. Too much bank angle and you drag hardware on the bike before the tire can become a problem.
Look at the size of the contact area on the car tire. There is more contact area than a typical motorcycle tire. Compound make up may not be as sophisticated as a motorcycle tire but this set up works and it works well.
I have watched the car tire perform in all kinds of conditions and it is rock solid.
Try it you'll like it.
metoones 1 year ago
i read a couple of comments saying that a ct is dangerous , it's a bad idea ,blablableh even one going on about the physics about motorcycling and how dangerous this is (tire goes round and round i go forward , TADA ! i think every biker gets how it works) the danger is the idiot who doesnt know how to drive not the tire, looks to me that there is plenty of grip on the road , seems like a lot of people love driving it , i'm just wondering how ill a ct handle with some snow ?
tammetummy 1 year ago
Just put a car tire on my Suzuki Intruder 1500LC (Nov. 20010). LOVE IT! I have over 100k on this bike and have gone thru a bunch of m/c tires. Wish I would have done this years ago. I commute every day 80 miles round trip and my car tire is GREAT! I go about 60 miles freeway and about 20 city streets. NO PROBLEMO.
wyatt92562 1 year ago
Wow this is such a bad idea.
eltotoX 1 year ago
Something I haven oticed about people making statements towards motorcycles running car tires is that these people have NEVER run a CT on theier bikes or even ridden one with a CT on it...therefore, in myopinion, they dont know what they are talking about. I have a Kumho 195/55/16 RF on my Goldwing and it runs perfect. So far I have had it up to 125 with no ill effects. Traction is way up with no noticeable difference in cornering...lean into it and go. The pluses...at least 30K miles on this CT
shooteraod 1 year ago
@shooteraod Maybe it works for cruisers and you dont spend enough time on the sidewall for it to start coming apart. But the FACT is that you are increasing the risk of a mishap, maybe slightly, but still increasing. And i dont have to go out and do that to know that what i just said is a fact. And even if someone had a mishap, who is going to get on youtube and say, yeah im the dumbass that crashed cause i put a CT on my motorcycle? nobody is going to do that. Thats why you never hear abt probs
WZW1982 10 months ago
car tires on a motorcycle doesnt seem like a good idea to me, just saying lol
IzzualYamakawa 1 year ago
OMg You're such a dumb motorcyclist! Just kidding.. I actually read the video info =D
vwontheautobahn 1 year ago
As far as I'm concerned, I will never go back to a M/C rear tire on my GL 1800. This tire has superior traction and rideability. It is quiter than any other tire I have ever used and the ride is smoother. I ride two up quite a bit and the mileage is great.
I know, you "nay sayers" think we are crazy but I ride about 25,000 miles a year and that's crazy too. So what?
MrRidewithpride 1 year ago 4
I'm now riding on my 3rd Continental Pro-Contact SSR (Self Supporting Rin Flat) 195/55/16 on my 2006 Gold Wing. The first tire I ran with 34 psi, too hard and wore out the center in 22,750 miles. The 2nd (same tire size and brand) I ran 26 psi very agressivly and wore out the sidewalls in just over 18,000 miles. The one I have on now has only been on the bike for about 5000 miles at 30 psi and I hope to get at least 30,000 miles out of it.
Tomorrow (Oct. 18th, 2010) I;m heading to MA from CO.
MrRidewithpride 1 year ago 6
I'm puttin a car tire on my 04 wing tired of buyin 2 tires a season gets exspensive. i have a friend who rode with us from wv to cal. on a valkyrie interstate he now has over 30k on the car tire an still looks good. i caint get more than 7k out of a motorcycle tire.
wvcoalhauler68 1 year ago 3
the contact patch isnt really any smaller than a mc tire in the corners...dirt bike tires have way less touching...i wouldnt recomend high performance ridding but for a gl it looks ok...imo...i wonder if you could put motocross tires on a jeep?
philtripe 1 year ago
I know 5 people that are running car tires on their bikes. They have been for years now. I ride with them on curves, rain and highway riding. They have no problems. I have not had a true "physics person" tell me why this is working or not. But i see it working. It wears better, seems better in rain, and absorbs bumps better. If i could put one on my bikes i would do it tomorrow. People freak out cause its a "car tire". Think out of the box. dare you.
travtail 1 year ago 2
@travtail You're right. They work wonderfully.
MrRidewithpride 1 year ago
SCARY LOL
69CHEVELLES 1 year ago
i run car tires on my zx12r ninja pro street bike all the time and they work great the only problem i have run into is the tires speed rating. it limits me to about 170mph but i only use them for pro street bikes and at the drag strip but they work better than cycle drag tires and are way cheaper
campracing1965 1 year ago
please hit a speed bump... lol bye bye camera? heheh
lifeisgood070 1 year ago 2
Not just the size of the contact patch that matters but the tire temperature as well. Car tires are designed for hevier vechicles, they dont get warm enough on a bike.
vilmos11 1 year ago
you broke wheel stupid
mariorubioexposito 1 year ago
You can tell by the oversized contact area (where the rubber meets the road) that this IS safe. The special "motorycle" tires are PLOY and people have been calling schinagins on them for years. If you want safe affordtable MC tires, use VERY good quality car tires. You want to use a bt less than HALF the PSI when upgrading to car tires. So, if the tire is normally for 35 PSI, you want to use around 15 PSI for maximum safety/reliablity/comforty. If you are going to be going VERY fast, you
maptlbh 1 year ago
that tire, even when leaned over in the turn had more contact patch than a mc tire ever does.
bksasse 1 year ago
This practice is monumental stupidity.
Muzzy337 1 year ago 2
what an idiot
ahhhnomames 1 year ago
Here in New Braunfels TX, I guy did this to a Valkyrie. He lost control in a curve and landed head on into a cement truck.
He could not bring the bike back to upright after the turn...bad idea!
globalcompressor 2 years ago
good year did not design that tire for such a purpose
dudley6036 2 years ago 2
Why would anyone do this? Dragging pegs is dangerous in and of itself, even on a goldwing, but with a car tire? It's cheating death. The contact patch on that fucker couldn't have been more than half an inch wide at full lean. Scary.
singaporesling1017 2 years ago 2
most bike contact patch is pretty small, not that im saying this is a smart thing to do but, for instance in moto grand prix the idea is the less contact the more maneuvering..its a hard concept to swallow. but again car tire not exactly smart. say your stuck in some bumfuck town and need a tire, well id make that work until the nearest bike shop.
nastynate8585 2 years ago
why are draging the feelers dangerous. They are there to tell you that if you lean much more you are doing to scrap other things or lose the edge of your tire
concoursboy 1 year ago
@singaporesling1017 Let's put a camera under a stock G/W & see how wide the contactpatch is on it? I bet it is about the same @ full lean.
timfisher77 1 year ago
Cool !!
fasteddy60 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you shift like shit can here the gears grindding
vivitar45 2 years ago
Your a moron that can't read! This isn't my video. I turned it right side up.
mcaswel 2 years ago 10
@vivitar45
Those are not gears grinding. Go watch it again retard.
chuckcurtin 2 years ago
foot pegs grinding dork
magicbus2000 2 years ago
@vivitar45 those aren't gears grinding you idiot. those are the floorboards of the bike scrapping the ground. that's actually a sign of being able to handle the bike accurately without dumping it. You can't grind gears on a bike either. Do your homework before you start commenting on things you obviously don't know about
matap914 1 year ago
@matap914 you can grind gears on a bike the same way you grind them in a car.
joejosiah 1 year ago
@vivitar45
What you hear are the pegs scraping the tarmac...
TheRealMetalRush 1 year ago
@TheRealMetalRush Rubbish. The bike isn't leaning over far enough for the pegs to scrape.
24691272 1 year ago
@24691272 then what IS scraping the tarmac ?
Does the driver have big feet or something ? ^_^
TheRealMetalRush 1 year ago
@vivitar45 OMG YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING RETARD I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. ITS NOT THE GEARS GRINDING ITS THE FUCKING WIND BLOWING INTO THE MIC ON THE CAMERA.
creedmfbratton 1 year ago
@vivitar45 That noise isn't the gears grinding,it's most likely the footpegs scraping the road surface
d0nutzaz 4 months ago
why the youtube logo is in te left corner and reversed?¿
daviddrd11 2 years ago
What I dont get is why people bother to do this? If it is to save money, what about the front tyre? They must be extremely boring riders if they dont have to replace the front tyre as often as the rear, so at best they are only saving one tyre for every 4 tyres they would have otherwise changed. And what about the obviously increased probability of crashes and the costs involved in that? So you ruin your bikes handling, safety and looks in exchange for maybe $50 less costs every 30,000km.
Pwn00b 2 years ago
might wanna let a few pounds of air out of that tire so it has a little more surface area on the road when your turning
KernalKinkyKuffs 2 years ago
A cross ply tyre might work. I wonder if McCreary or Hoosier make one in that size?
Flash635 2 years ago
This is simply amazing to me. As I see it, there are two groups of folks on either side of this religion (that's really what this is, if you think about it).
1. Those that have done it and will never look back.
2. Those that have never tried a CT on a MC and shout from the rooftops that "It can't be done!" and "It can't be safe!" and "You're going to die in a fiery crash!"
If you think they're so stupid - let them kill themselves. Settle down, people!
Really. Take a breath...
PerryDawsey 2 years ago 3
Try putting the tire on a sportsbike that can actually turn, then see how far you can go before you are laying on the road
mortenmorfar 2 years ago
You're right morten - no one would EVER advocate that! Motorcycle tires became rounded in profile when sport bikes came around. Before that, they were all pretty much square. Big cruisers and touring bikes are the only place these are recommended.
PerryDawsey 2 years ago
tard.
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
Well, the reason you'll get better mileage with a CT is because the rubber compound is harder. Plus they're rated heavier. This vid clearly shows high-siding the stepped edge on curves. It may be a little overinflated for the reduced weight load. But I won't diss a bikerider who is aware of the issue & rides accordingly. I ride a harley sidecar, and because I run in the center of the tire I sure could use a CT, but no sizes will fit my app, replacing an MT 16-90-130. Oh well. Ride Safe & Free!
starmanskye 2 years ago
Must handle like a three legged horse...
dpenz 2 years ago
Long story short, I was about to flip to the darkside when I came across the Dunlop Wintersport 3D Runflat in a Honda Level 5 Powerhouse Dealer. The tire had a FULL failure on the corner, or edge, almost 90% around the tire. Wicked bad, yet PERFECTLY TIMED, sign for us to stay away from them.
DJFireUSA 2 years ago
scary
thashogun1 2 years ago
Hey Dummies before 1980 all tires were square. There was no rounded edge tires. Do your history if you can think back that long. Rounded edge tires came out when sport bikes were introduced.
regham3 2 years ago
Hey Dummie YOU do your history just look up some pictures of the 1903 harley THEY HAD ROUND TIRES OMG!!!! who the hell told you round tires didnt come out till 1980?
thekevinallan 2 years ago 3
You pwn.
The guy made me spit out water with his stupid square story lmfaoooooo.
VloemVloem 2 years ago
I would never risk my life to save a few bucks. Look how little tread is making contact in turns. Why do you think bike tires are rounded. Do yourself a favor and either sell your bike or buy the right tires for your bike.
lashkei 2 years ago
i couldn't agree more. it's plain stupid
z2a 2 years ago
I have been riding street bikes for over 39 years and Goldwings for 30 years. I don't care how great that these people say car tires are on a wing! This is just plain stupid. Bikes were not designed for car tires and yes, your insurance company can refuse a claim and invalidate your insurance.
Also it is usually against the law to change or modify anything from the factory. I wouldn't want to run the twisties with a car tire. It is not the same no matter what these people say.
scubarider1 3 years ago
Anybody know what size c/t to put on a 1500 Goldwing? Have a reverse trike needing one.
hemidandan 3 years ago
Yeah, size 0.
If you want car tires that bad, drive a car. If you're riding a motorcycle, put some freaking bike tires on it!
MotoErik56347 2 years ago
It is like a car. The rear is a single tire powered by the Goldwing. The front has 2 tires and is a VW front end with car tires. The rear doesn't lean in the turns so the tire wears out faster due to the flatening out of the rounded "bike tire". Hence the use of a car tire. Hope that clears up your opinion.
hemidandan 2 years ago
My apologies. I saw "trike", but totally missed the word "reverse". I assumed a troll, thinking that a trike would have a different rear axle.
Your application sounds like the only good reason to put a c/t on the rear of a bike.
MotoErik56347 2 years ago
No way! Is this about money? Why? It's not worth it... and I'M cheap!!
soulseeka1 3 years ago 3
After looking at more videos of car tires on M/c, especially-vstarman84,I have to admit that it doesn't appear to be as bad as i had imagined. I still say insurers will look for reasons to not pay out. And i will stick to M/c tires on my '84 Goldwing. Again (with the taste of crow in my mouth) after viewing more videos of big bikes with car tires, it would appear that that the profile of the car tire isn't that much of a problem.
gl1200phil 3 years ago
Again, having been screwed by an insurance company (truck-geico), they are in business TO NOT PAY OUT!! They don't make any money paying off claims. Why in the hell would they pay off if you had tires that were not (in US) DOT approved for said application?
I would advise that you check with your insurer.I don't know how you ride your 'wing, but with the interstate freeways, I am often around the ton and occaisionly get some sparks off the pegs, I wouldn't do it w/ car rubber. Do what u will!
gl1200phil 3 years ago
Having been fucked by an insurance company in the US (geico-truck) i have learned that an insurance company's purpose is to NOT PAY CLAIMS! I would be willing to bet my last dollar that if you try to make a claim, regardless of the details, and they find you have an auto tire on your bike, they will use it as an execuse to not pay!! I also will bet that in those reams of small print there will be notice that if anything isn't "correct" or contraindicated they will do exactly that! Your choice!
gl1200phil 3 years ago
i assume you know you are uninsured riding with a car tyre on a bike? it is not only stupid, but totally illegal
poldsmobile 3 years ago
So is your post! You don't know what you're talking about!
radumser 3 years ago
having anything other than the correct recommended size and TYPE of tyre on a motorcycle invalidates its insurance. if you had an accident your insurance wont pay out, because you have a CAR tyre on a MOTORCYCLE
poldsmobile 3 years ago
That may be true where you live, but here in the USA we have not let our solons thrash the motorcycle community into a babbling glob of ectoplasm. Get a life!
radumser 3 years ago
Please get your information correct before spouting 'facts'. The only time an insurance company will refuse to pay out is if it can be proven that an aftermarket modification CAUSED the accident. That's not just tyres, that's ANY mod you make to your bike that is not 'stock' How many bikes do you know of that are still 100% as they left the factory? The ONLY legal issue with a car tyre is the tread depth, as it is with a motorcycle tyre. If it's bald, they won't pay.
infidelyork 3 years ago
check your insurance, i'm afraid your wrong. car tyres WILL invalidate your insurance as they are not intended for use on motorcycles, even running at the wrong pressure or using the wrong speed rating can invalidate insurance, even if it is not the tyre that causes the crash. running a car tyre on a bike is extremely stupid. having worked in insurance, and seen claims rejected (and people prosecuted) due to unsuitable tyres being used, i do know what i'm talking about.
poldsmobile 3 years ago
I HAVE checked with my insurance.
"and seen claims rejected (and people prosecuted)"
I challenge you to find a single case in the UK where a person has been prosecuted for using a car tyre on a motorcycle. The ONLY prosecutions you will find is where a tyre has been used that is marked 'not for use on public roads'.
While you're at it, find a tyre that says either 'for car use only' or 'for motorcycle use only'.
infidelyork 3 years ago
i would like to advise anybody who's thinking about a CT to watch the video again. As the bike leans the contact patch is decreasing in size and the side forces are increasing. Throw in something like rain, wet leaves, sand or gravel or any other factor that will decrease traction and you are looking for a combination that could lead to disaster! MC tires have a different profile than a car for a very important purpose. TRACTION WHEN THE BIKE IS LEANING!! Just my two cents worth, but think!!
gl1200phil 3 years ago 2
And can I suggest that you check out vstarman84 and HIS video of a car tyre. The tyre on this video, in my opinion is slightly over inflated, hence the smaller contact patch, you will see a VAST difference on vstarman84's video. I run a Pirelli Eufori runflat on my GL1800 at 32psi and get FAR superior traction and rubber on the road in the wet/gravel/snow than I did with a motorcycle tyre. Each to their own.
infidelyork 3 years ago
reply to infidel:I think you are missing my point. Straight up-yes more traction. Watch the tire when it leans, a lot LESS traction. The inertial forces are coming from the side, You now have smaller contact patch-throw in wet leaves, rain, snow or ice and at the most crucial time you'll have less traction and will be more suseptible to crash. I don't ride in snow, if i had to, i'd probably feel better with a big car snow tire, apart from that i'll stick with m/c tires. Its your choice!
gl1200phil 3 years ago
For those of you that haven't tried using a CT on a MC, you shouldn't be so quick to judge the results. Ride is much smoother, mileage is increased by 400 to 500%. More tire on the road, even while cornering. I will put up my CT vs a MC tire anyday...
2006 VTX1800N
Goodyear Triple Tred 205-60-16 tire $130.00
200-60-16 MC Tire $230.00
That's over a $1000.00 year in rear tires alone including mounting and balancing of the tire...
bigimagephotos 3 years ago
I think I'm going to try it on my GL1800 because of the limited traction using an m/c tire. This looks like it'll work better and I can buy 2 of these for the price of one m/c tire. Maybe I'll get one z rated and one M&S for riding to prudoe bay!!!
automaticreply 3 years ago 2
If you're too cheap to pay for the right tire, then don't drive a $25000 motorcycle.
tsk5565 2 years ago 2
not about cheep it's about available traction on the m/c tires for this machine.
(only Obama can tell me what to drive! LOL)
automaticreply 2 years ago
I have not actually ever seen a 25,000 dollar motorycycle, and i own 8 harleys. But your right, this is pretty silly.
NoSweatOffMySack 2 years ago
look up ducati desmosedici
CBRRiderr 2 years ago
Yeah, but its usually the guys with the most expensive bikes that are the cheapest bastards alive.
rednoseroxy 2 years ago
Holy cigarette butts Batman! People are pigs! Wherever the vid was shot had 30% of the ground covered in butts or other garbage, yuck!
obscureluzername 3 years ago
Would be interesting to see the same video using a MC tire -- know of any?
aquilla250 3 years ago
its easy to see how it stays flat(thus the bike rides on the corner edge of the tire) when cornering, this would look scary to most, but now think on this; rubber to road surface contact is X compared to a new Dunlop with no cupping is X? and then compare it to a cupped Dunlop X?? Would it not be very fair to say there is likely more rubber to surface with the car tire than with the cupped bike tire compared to a car tire
Lonecoyote69 3 years ago 4
That's just plain stupid!
leo5045 3 years ago
looks like the contact patch is the same as a regular motorcycle tire when you are cornering. Kudos
rikrad544 3 years ago
Perfect example of why car tires should be on cars, and motorcycle tires should be on motorcycles. It's scary to see how small the contact patch gets when the bike leans in a turn.
cyranodb 3 years ago 4
This may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Do you understand the physics of motorcycling? Can you explain the differences between auto and bike tires that make this dangerous?
seedym 3 years ago
I don't run a car tire on my Goldwing and I never will. Take the time to read about why I posted it and you'll understand. There are darksiders that do run car tires and people had questions about the contact patch. I just turn the video right side up. I didn't take the video!
mcaswel 3 years ago
that's cuz your smart!
gregger454 3 years ago
Look at Motorcycle tire closely.
They are made with the tire pattern / contact patch to be around the tire. B/C motorcycle lean during turn. that way motor cycle tires maintain contact patch during cornering / lean etc.
Car tire has a flat contact patch. do you see while the motorcycle is turning / leaning. the contact patch reduce because the car tire has flat contact patch.
Lose contact patch during cornering = losing grip on the road = Crash
LaksaMedan 3 years ago
Just in addition to the contact patch. Most MC tyres are made of more than one compound, the stickier stuff at sides, and the harder stuff in the middle as thats the part of the tyre that is used more.
On a side note has anyone ever viciously banked over on a squared off tyre? I sure as hell notice the differendce, frightens 7 shades out of me. Just my 2p worth
yllekkram 3 years ago 13
lol
automaticreply 3 years ago
The camera was probably mounted upside down to the frame by a steel strap and a 1/4-20 screw in the tripod mount hole, hence the original being upside down. I'd like to see pictures of that bike.
bmracine 4 years ago
This isn't my video. I'm not a darksider but the guy that took the video couldn't figure out how to get it right side up. All I did was flip it 180 degrees and then tell him how I did it.
I put M/C Tires on M/C's and car tires on cars.
mcaswel 4 years ago
Any particular reason why a car tire versus a motorcycle tire? The other curiosity ... how did you mount the camera and what kind of camera? Thank you and safe riding.
LauraGFlorida 4 years ago
Because you get 2-3 times the mileage versus a motorcycle tire. Also, Goldwings tend to be hard on rear tires.
Standman38637 3 years ago