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  • TKL, your argument makes no sense...There's no question that Starcraft II requires excellent micro, but micro is paramount in WC3: the inclusion of heroes and the importance of not losing even a single unit when possible (due to XP considerations) means your micro requirements are much higher than in SC2. If the game REQUIRES more micro to win/compete, you're going to accordingly need to have better micro to win/compete.

  • MyM]Moon ist einfach der beste! (Er war das in dem video) und er ist in der weltrangliste auf platz 2 und der beste nachtelfenspieler der welt. Ich liebe ihn :)

  • The god of warcraft 3.

  • Damn, thats why people hate globins constructions.....

  • what is unbelievable , it is ~

  • AMAZING play!

  • @tchado1000 not to be a douch, this is a serious question.

    Is the warcraft 3 community still that impressive, cuz I'm considering picking up the game again but last time i watched a pro match there were like 10 people in the croud and it was moon vs gruby><

  • @eend04 wc3 is dead

    sadly

  • @98smithg apperntly you don't know anything about rts games, you don't say or EVEN starcraft 2... starcraft 2 is easilly the most established rts and probally game in generall><

  • omg awsome micro! :D:D

  • el oh el XDDDD

  • Good micro

  • haha!

    Nice!

  • is that a tetris?

  • lol i might try that! very nice strategy!

  • well playd lol

  • Moon, I love you!

  • @javier6951 Yeah, Warcraft fanatics learned that move from Starcraft 1 dropship micro.

  • @javier6951 you cant compare previous warcraft games to broodwar because broodwar used a different engine and warcraft 1 and 2 has never seen the professional scene.

  • @javier6951 broodwar:1998. U lose.

  • @javier6951 lol wtf are u mad about? no shit wc3 was before sc2 but wtf does that have to do with in game micro.. its not like ppl wouldnt know how to use medivacs if this guy hadnt done this back in 2007! ur just angry that u suck ass at wc3 and sc2

  • that's the shit! unbelievable!

  • ZEPLINZEPLINZEPLIN

  • EPIC

    

  • 400 apm at its best !

  • This were epic

  • RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE STARCRAFT BETTAR!!! RABBLE!

  • Nice

  • work on your baneling spread moon lol

  • @bootysmack420 lol!

  • @bootysmack420 He already did....at MLG.

  • starcraft

  • this is why if i go footies i always get blizzard first.

  • noone play dota strategy anymore...

  • wc3 players are so far behind sc players :) reaver drop micro ftw.

  • @nejtilsvampe

    top4 of TSL3 r warcraft3 players fyi

  • @nejtilsvampe Look at the date, SC 2 was nowhere to be found at this time..... WC3 is infront of SC2

  • @Woskyify I never said sc2 lol... heard of bw? go away wc3 newb-troll.

  • REVAREVAREVAREVAREVA

  • Wow! I'm not good at microing with that air unit. Can't wait for Warcraft 4!!!!

  • whos the best player in the world at W3? is that grubby dude up there or are there better?

  • @dageezerboi

    Grubby was one of the best.

    Now it is Remind, Infi, Sky, Th000. They are all on the same level.

  • ummm just hit the damn flying asshole thing!!

  • @3ash3osh omg you are so much smarter then this progamer is .... have you ever tried to kill a zeppelin or how ever this air unit is called wtih a single am? it just needs to much time . you cant do it

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  • Warcraft 3 will die when Blizzard ultimately releases Warcraft 4.

    The same happened to Starcraft.

  • @TKaarel

    yeeeeaaahh... starcraft died... look at korea dude

  • @TKaarel When Warcraft4 comes i wouldnt quit w3. simply the best game ever :)

  • horrible english skills!

  • fcking moon he's crazy

  • Warcrafy 3 will never die. DotA is the best mod ever. Starcraft II is the Warcraft IV

  • @D0teur

    "WC3 will never die".......I agree , its the best game ever

    "Dota is the best mod ever".......fuck that ! fuck Dota ! I hope it dies and fuck everyobe who plays it , why the fuck would anybody with a brain play dota when they can be playing wc3 ? Oh I know because wc3 is too hard for them noobs.

    "sc2 is the wc3"......LOL !

  • @Tchado1000 just try DotA

  • @D0teur

    I did , never liked it....not because of the concept , i find it genius in fact and i like the fact it spawned games like hon and lol , BUT i do not like what Dota did to the wc3 community , heck ! there some noobs who have the nerve of thinking that wc3 = dota , people like these make me sick and the problem is there are alot of them.

    plus its too painful to me , watching wc3 turn into dota.

  • @Tchado1000 Sorry if i speak a bad english, but i agree with you. DotA cuts down the Wc3 community but it's a normal thing because, just think, that the game have 10 years old !

    I played Wc3 first, then DotA, now i'm rediscovering wc3 and once more i think its the best video game ever. But don't be sad that wc3's community is dying: she created Dota-likes, and annunced ...WarCraft IV.

  • @Tchado1000 because wc3 does not stand up on its own as a competitive rts, at best it was a twitchy mico wars with some sim city thrown in. Compare it to modern day stragegy such as company of heroes or even starcraft 2 and it doesnt hold a candle to them quite frankly.

  • @98smithg

    Dude , please read your comment again and then laugh at yourself.

    wc3 is an established e-sport , you can't just say "doesnt hold a candle" without showing us some evidence to that , look at the peak of company of heroes and the peak of wc3 , does company stand a chance ? hell no

    Oh so its some twitchy micro + sim city ehhh ? alright then , please go beat sky , once you do I might think about listening to you.

    you need to realize that all rts are different in their own way

  • @98smithg

    Now i respect people's opinions , if you dont like wc3 ,thats fine , however you can not deny the established facts , wc3 is definitely one of the best RTS games ever to be created , if you like company of heroes that is fine by me , but to say that wc3 "doesnt hold a candle" is just plain stupid man.

    Of course sc2 is the best rts game now i must admit that but I like it but since I like RTS games with heavy micro and hero factors , I'm more into wc3 and dawn of war :retribution

  • @Tchado1000

    Heavy micro, I'm sorry... but are you suggesting that Wc3 requires more micro?

    I have played all, and I can say from experience that Brood War, SCII, and WC3 all require high levels of micro.

    I think you might be mistaking WC3's focus on hero and micro as it requiring more micro.

    WC3 is definitely more MICRO-BASED, but by no means does it require more micro; rather, it requires an equal amount but focuses more heavily on it.

  • @truekoreanlover Your response doesn't really make that much sense man.

  • @EdgeSanity13

    I'll dumb it down for you, man.

    WC3, SCII, BW all require micro.

    They all CAN utilize heavy micro as well.

    WC3 does not require more micro; rather, it simply emphasizes micro over macro while SCII allows a choice or a combination.

  • @truekoreanlover Nope, you're still not really making sense my friend. It just sounds like you have some kind of agenda to make SCII sound like a better game. WC3 is more reliant on micro; therefore, you need better micro to compete. That's just common sense. SCII is more of a macro game. But what people don't realize is that macro actually takes more apm than micro, which is why SCII requires a higher apm. So you could make the argument that SCII requires more skill if apm=skill.

  • @EdgeSanity13

    You call my logic twisted because it opposes yours? interesting analysis.

    First, I am a WC3 fan over BW or SCII :P

    WC3 is more reliant on micro; however, that does not mean it requires more micro on other games. You are under a false assumption that just because WCIII emphasizes micro, it requires more.

    The games require equal amounts of micro. You should try playing at higher levels in both games.

    Also, make sure to not judge SCII by it's metagame, but by it's potential.

  • @truekoreanlover Instead of using the twisted the logic you're using.

  • @Tchado1000 one of the best? dude, i say it IS the best :) and i sincerely recommend that blizzard would make a warcraft 4. not WoW. WARCRAFT. also i'm waiting for doom 4 now...only that can beat my this moments favourite game...which is doom 3 :)

  • he healed himself... doesnt count

  • That zepplin thing is not something an average player can pull off, you need insane micro to do this, but its moon whos playing this so its possible :D and I wonder who are the 60 people who disliked this

  • this happened in starcraft before and its not the best move xdd

  • @xmotoFF some ppl never gonna learn.... there is some respect you just must have!

  • it looks like Starcraft...with dropship :))

  • too bad he lost that one :/

  • this move was known as the killer move of the starcraft emperor BoxeR

  • shoot the flying thing instead of missing shots vs ur archers?

  • Moon's insame micro, IMAO

  • he learned that from slayers_boxer tank micro with dropships.

  • oh look more annoying starcraft fanatics 

  • @MinM66 lol, its not even starcraft

  • lol, boxer drops

  • i saw this replay and i liked it so much, moon is a awesome wc3 player. but now wc3 is dead :(. but it allways be in my heart <3

  • @BunDinYo wc 3 will never die u dickhead :P

  • @Vntti Nope if you go to the EU server (Northern) there will be like 100 servers that keeps getting rehosted

    Wc3 will never die.

    The only way WC3 would die were if WC4 came out :P unluckely WOW came instead so WC3 will keep alive.

  • @therealattacka Actually the only real thing keeping WC3 alive is DotA.

    WC3 ladder kinda failed.

  • @lorecolten Nevertheless wc3 is still awesome, funny and unbeatable

  • @lorecolten if you gonna say bulshits dont say it...

  • @VengeanceBG Meaning? Are you some sort of WC3 fanboy? Thinking that it's the best game ever?

    Gtfo.

  • @lorecolten fact: it IS one of the best games ever made

  • impossible = Moon

  • i saw this only once in game, you must be really good in micro to do this...

  • Can somebody explain what's special about that move? For noobs plz

  • @benutzer1221

    Keeping the units in the fight.

    Good micro involves getting your units to do their maximum damage to the right targets whilst still keeping them alive. If your units die then you have to spend your resources replacing them instead of buying upgrades or more advanced units.

    Archers have very few hit points, and take high damage from melee attacks, so they are notoriously difficult to keep alive. And he kept them alive vs melee, which he killed.

  • REAVER DROP ! :D

  • ez micro if u play starcraft..

  • It's only impressive if he's controlling his economy, tech, and base arrangement at the exact same time with smart macromanagement. If he had the cam centered on his zepplin the entire time and all he was doing was archer-dropping while his macro went to shit (and that happened in this match) then this is just mediocre control of a few units.

  • @Torgoable lets see u beat him then =p

  • @b3nj1am1n haha yeah

    I've seen him playing REAL strategy games, he's not very good because he doesn't know how to do anything besides win small skirmishes (a few units vs a few units). His only strength is in so much memorization and practice that he can do mundane things faster than anyone else, but he's not a very strategic player.

  • unbelievable……

  • hehe. nice

  • fucking awesome =))

  • xD nice move poor archmage don't stand a chance

  • Wat the ef

  • insane micro

  • lol purp shuda won that but musta have been like: "FUCK U BITCH!!!" :p

  • OMG !

  • This move came from Starcraft, where you would pick up you tanks before the dragoons can shoot them.

  • @noobeater117 you mean pick up your reavers before tanks can shoot them. why would you hide tanks in a dropship? dragoons can attack air units..

  • @jjws but the target was at the tank so in a sense the attack was canceled since the tank is a invaild target (in the air unit) then you drop it for the attack again and repeat

  • @jjws I saw the move in a SC replay I got, the dragoons were targeting the tank, not the dropship at the time.

  • @noobeater117 And starcraft also *totally* invented the concept of micro

  • @noobeater117 I think with reaver it was more fun ^^

  • @noobeater117 this move came out the second u can pick units up to avoid making them take damage. doesnt matter where the move came from, its who can excute it better.

  • @noobeater117 why dont just shoot dropships? if dragoons?

  • @ytban The same reason you don't just "shoot zeppelins" in WarCraft 3.

  • @noobeater117 reaver

  • @Me2Myself3AndI Well, I could do it with dragoons, it just takes better timing.

  • @noobeater117 the SlayerS_BoxeR move

  • @noobeater117 reavers***

  • @noobeater117 no, its not move from starcraft. Moon avoid all attacks using zeppelin. In Starcraft, even best players on world cant do this. 70% of shots hit units.

  • @noobeater117

    was used with reaver drops before the tank drops, noob.

  • @testwordz yeah, but he never said that tank drops was used before reaver drops either. what's your point?

  • @LostFaithChoi he said it came from the tankdrops, and it didnt, as tankdrops came from the reaverdrops, so if you are going to credit this tactic to something it'd be the reaverdrops.

  • @testwordz nvm, I read it wrong, he did say it's from tankdrop. I thought he meant it was the same move. if he said that, it would be fine.

  • @noobeater117 This move come from Moon who didn't wait for SC to invent incredible move

  • @noobeater117 No it's not, its came from the creator of the game's imagine and the players' mind

  • Can someone explain what happens in this video? I'm curious about warcraft. 

  • @MeXXiPiNo916 what happened was he micro'd his units (micro meaning kept them allive and spreading dmg) in this video he doesnt lose a unit bc he micros his archers really quickly which is kinda hard if you dont know what your doing

  • @MeXXiPiNo916 He's picking up his archers in the zepplin (The flying thing) before the human player (Purple) can even attack his units, meanwhile Red is firing on all cylinders...

  • lol when you dont play warcraft u see shit and wtf!!

  • yeah

    why target the zappelin anyways?

  • lol awesome :D

  • this is not possible!

  • @DwizZful Moon wasn't even human o_0 He's a progamer XD

  • @DwizZful

    it s possible, moon is pro and he is the best, for me and you it s not possible, but for moon possible :D

  • haha what lowlifer thumbed this down? its so awesome

  • I could do that

    - but i don't want to :) Moon is great.

  • What do you use for anything when you are filming on W3?

  • sick indeed

  • I can do that with starcraft dropship. But in WC, I give up

  • niiiiiiiiiice!

  • WOW! SO AWESOME UBER LEETNESS!

  • just attack zeeplin..

    SIMPLE

  • @MrBrandonRox

    The time it takes for an AM to kill a zepp is more then twice the time it takes for all those archers to kill the AM

  • @MrBrandonRox then he'll attack him while hes destroying his zep

  • @MrBrandonRox yea surre, attack "zeeplin" while archers were killing him

  • @MrBrandonRox yeah, simple. Wondering why Sky, one of the best players in world, didn't have such an occurrence. Maybe... becouse it wont work? :)

  • Hella micro...

  • insane micro....who was this?

  • so after all the intense work... moon killed 1 footie...

  • @iljia1 and made AM to take a great potion of healing....so, not bad at all with 3 low hp units

  • that was shit!!!!!!!!

  • epic micro

  • moon n1

  • That's micro at it's best right there.

  • @erickd14 its*

  • was sick

  • Lucky...ur enemies where such a piece of noob

  • @darkcheloz LOL!! Sky a noob? Omg you should watch more replays, sky is one of the top players ever.

  • @maxxxkiller hmmmm,ok.

  • @darkcheloz 2b?

  • @ivych1000 wtf?What kind of retarded doesnt realizes that you must target the zeppelin?I DONT GETY IT!

  • @darkcheloz I mean you are 1a's young brother

  • @ivych1000 What does that has to do with this?im the elder brother btw.

    (im 18 if you wonder,and i DO know what im saying)

  • @darkcheloz sky is the defending champion of WCG2005 and WCG2006

  • @ivych1000 Huh?champion?I retract then.Anyways there should be some better reaction 2 that(run maybe,if he cant kill the zeppelin?).Ok maybe he was fucked anyway

  • @darkcheloz As others have said, that much archers would totally crush the AM before it can kill the zeppelin. BTW, Sky is not retarded. He's one of the best players of WC3 history.

  • @gustavotriqui Douh,AM was fucked then?Srry,but i dont know a lot about pro warcraft 3 players,just a little.

  • @darkcheloz Not necesarelly fucked, actually he managed to run away. And against any other player without that much micro, he might have won. He actually managed to get all the archers to just a few hp, but Sky awesome micro saved all of them.

  • @gustavotriqui Micro pwnz...so Sky is actually, the best or one of the bests?

  • pussykoreans can only play games

  • omg!!!! so coll trick i cant belive he actually did this trick very nice!!!!!

  • look at 0:34! makes no sense how he can do that. he is actively blocking the am with the panda, moving side to side, and at the SAME TIME hes unloading units from the zeppelin O_o

    his hands must be lighting fast

  • just insane