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[mark24875218]

30million men had to die !! and for what ? Its funny as Germany is strong once again, stronger than ever, and i think its great !!!

[darthgrahf]

Little did the world know, Hitler had to deal with the original troll: Hermann Fegelein.

[Kasadoll]

actually the whole "nazi propaganda in everything thing" is completely untrue.Gobbels even knew that people needed a break from it from time to time, and often used humor as a distraction

[terfle1106]

Testosterone Land... Duh !!

[Damynine]

"THE LOVE OF AGRESSION AND CONQUEST" is common for too many countries of the world. (which the author is not mentioning) Germany is one of many... as agression is a part of human nature, a product of ambision, desire to domine etc.

[Pisces31660]

both sides have propoganda. americans never marche into berlin. soviets did. americans took the western front. americans only wished they had taken berlin. very misleading that part was. 

[Rico8458]

the british were the worlds first international mafia dope dealers with opium from india to china. opium was the number one trade lane.

[postaldude2]

Heil Hitler!

[RideMyBMW]

min 7:05 Swastika blowin to fu&%in smithereens. Best shot o the whole flim, man.

[yhshvh10]

shitler

[patsyd80]

if hitler would have stoped after the march on the rhur and the sudenten land an then the ansclus he would have gone down as a great german leader. goreing even said to him"lets stop this risky game" but he said hes allways been a gambler.

[slowstrummer]

Yeah right asshole, only the Nazi's were the bad people, not us, not the British Empire. We never did any wrong in the world. We are the good people of the earth. We never killed Indians in America, or raped the land, or killed slaves, or invaded other countries (the list is so long it would take a whole page to write them out. Nazi's are scum and so are we.

[yhshvh10]

i agree

[EyeLean5280]

The sad truth is that no one has yet figured out a way to build a world power peacefully - and if you're not a world power, you're at the mercy of those who are. Not a very pleasant choice.

[patsyd80]

@slowstrummer the english got on very well with indians in america it was the americans that killed them learn history dum dum.

[EdwardRommel]

@patsyd80

most of the native americans were killed by diseases brought over by Europeans(as many as 90%)...look up wikipedia on "native Americans"...only about 30,000 people died in the Indian wars in the USA territory including both sides.

Native Americans had no permanent cities..no wheel, no horses, pigs, or cattle

There simply were not very many Indians in North or South America after European diseases had done their deed.

[patsyd80]

@EdwardRommel I never said "everything was fine before 1776" I was making the point that the english got on alot better with the indians than the americans later did fact.

[battleax86]

@patsyd80 No, it's not a fact. The relationship never really changed much from when the first English settlers got there in the 1580s to when the Indian wars finally ended in the 1890s. During the American Revolution and the War of 1812, both the Americans and the British would make deals with one tribe or another hoping they'd join their side in the war, so they'd show special kindness then...but other than that, it was the usual mix of peace with some tribes and war with others.

[EdwardRommel]

@patsyd80

that maybe true because the British never wanted to venture beyond the Appalachian mountains and forbid Americans to do so becuase the Brits didn't want the added cost of defending American colonists from Indians..

However, the smallpox contaminated blankets were allegedly dispensed by British troops ..not US troops.

In 1832 the US govt. passed a law for vacinnating Indians against diseases.

The British record in India and with the Boers is not good.

[battleax86]

@patsyd80 If you think everything was fine with the Indians before 1776, then you're the one who needs to learn history...

[patsyd80]

@battleax86 england treated the indians alot better than the americans later did. this is just a fact.

[EdwardRommel]

@patsyd80

Read the Wikipedia article called "Pontiac's War"....

In what is now perhaps the best-known incident of the war, British officers at Fort Pitt attempted to infect the besieging Native Americans with smallpox using blankets that had been exposed to the virus. The ruthlessness and treachery of the conflict was a reflection of a growing racial divide between British colonists and Native Americans.

Sorry Patsy...the Brits and Europeans are not kinder and gentler than Americans..

[EdwardRommel]

@patsyd80

I tend to be very pro-British empire...but your statement "it was the americans that killed them" implied that no Native Americans were killed until after 1776 and that is simply not true. The original British settlers at Jamestown and Plymouth Rock had many problems with the Native Americans...and Jamestown was entirely wiped out by the N.A. ...so I felt you needed a history lesson...sorry Patsy.

[patsyd80]

@EdwardRommel listen Im making the point that n.a were much better of under the british than they were under the americans. you make the point yourself about the appalachain mountains so I dont see what your point is? off course im not saying "no indians died under the british" for the last time im saying BETTER OFF. we live over hear you live over their and we will meet and trade. instead of we will take all the land drive you on to reserves or kill you all.

[EdwardRommel]

@patsyd80

Do you really think the British Govt. would have stopped forever at the Appalachian line of 1763?...didn't they continue to explore in Canada? Did they stop at the seashore in Austalia or New Zealand. It is human nature to explore.

They simply paused because as you know Britain had an enormous national debt and their debt was so high that they had to neglect their Navy ...to the point where many of the British ships were suffering from seaworm rot..and were not sea worthy...

[darthgrahf]

@slowstrummer No country has its hands clean. Not even the pacifist Scandinavian ones are completely blood free.

[daltonagre]

Beyond doubt, nazism was even worse, than stalinism.

[EyeLean5280]

I dunno - they're both mighty awful.

[draculapw]

Hitler was hardly elected in and von hindenburg "you will be the leader of Germany over my dead body"

and it was over his dead body

[misterkempeitai]

a true Aryan is...

bodily fit...

Goering???

tall...

Goebbels???

Blonde...

[misterkempeitai]

HITLER???

[scrutograph]

O.k. I have to say, that´s it is not black propaganda (lie), because church can mean any religious building. But it is remarkable, that the whole film doesn´t mention the Holocaust (the murdering of the Jews) even once explicitly. Capra just talks about religious persecutions generally! Even when the film shows the gas chambers, it is not mentioned, that Jews were killed there. Today, the Holocaust is the historical fact, that Germans are most ashamed of.

[EdwardRommel]

@scrutograph

The reason the film doesn't mention the holocaust is because they were still investigating that in 1945 and many people were denying that it had happened.

If you recall there was anti-German horror propaganda in WW1 about the German army making soap out of dead German soldiers...when the truth was Germany was making soap out of dead horses.

I think Capra wanted to stay away from the more shocking details of the holocaust although he does talk about "gas chambers"

[scrutograph]

@EdwardRommel Indeed, the persecution of the Jews violated the freedom of religion, as well. It´s a noble undertaking to fight for it. Showing destroyed Christian churches gave an even better impression of the violation of this right. ;-) After all the movie was seen as inappropiate, maybe because of scenes like "burning churches"?

[daltonagre]

Beyond doubt, nazism was even worse, than stalinism.

[draculapw]

Even though stalin did bad things he was a very clever man! If it wasnt for Russia in ww2 the war would of lasted a lot longer. The outcome may well of been difrent.

[scrutograph]

I just can remember church burnings in France by the waffen ss at the end of the war.

One has to add, that the films ignore all the imperialism, militarism and fanatism in other countries.

[Anton1941]

In 1941 Germany and her allies were in a "crusade against pagan communism".

They reopened churched which had been turned into Vodka factories by the Soviet Bolshewicks.

And American bombs destroyed and burned more churches then the 'waffen ss' ever burned in france

[Tebok73509]

American Bombs? What about English Bombs? Hmm?

[Anton1941]

You're right.

BRITISH bombs too, who cowardly bombed at Night (afraid to come during the day)

- raining incendiary bombs on helpless famillies.

better ?

[draculapw]

kinda like the lufftwaffel then. Oh no hangon they made the flying bomb so that they didnt have to send people! COWARDS!

[KingKoodles]

They made the rockets because, once fully developed, they would be much more effective than bombing alone. And judging by Germany's loss of life during the war, I really doubt that they cared much about having to send troops to someplace to fight. So that wouldn't really make them cowards by your definition now would it? Why not join the military and see what being in battle really feels like? Then you will be granted the right to label the most professional soldiers in history as "cowards."

[Tebok73509]

Ya.. oh.. wait... Germany did the same thing to England, day and night. If your going to try to make the Allies look like the bad guys, PLEASE do a better job. You are making yourself sound like a fucking idiot.

[yhshvh10]

i agree

[draculapw]

Russian bombs? hmmmm?

[scrutograph]

Church burnings by the nazis? I´ve never heard of it. Is there any proof? I think, it is a pure propaganda lie.

[flammingdart]

Does the name Oradour-sur-Glane ring anything to you fritzy?

[scrutograph]

One could have the impression the Nazis burned churches in Germany,

but Churchill und Bomber Harris did. Moreover, Communists destroyed churches in their own countries.

Regarding Oradour-sur-Glane see above.

[MefiuThc]

Isn't that a village in france where thexe poore americans had a taste of german eastern-style of sorting out things on front ? Loked in church and set on fire ?

[cdishmo]

Yes there is proof. "The Night of Broken Glass-Kristallnacht." On November 9-10 1938 200 Jewish Synagogues were set on fire, 92 Jews were murdered, 25,000-30,000 were sent to concentration camps. This was revenge for the death of a German diplomet who was shot by a 17 year old Jewish boy in Paris. The young man was angry because his family had been put out of Germany by the Nazi's. The Nazi's would take Jewish apartments or homes and tell the Jews that they could take clothes and nothing else.

[scrutograph]

The question is: Did Capra want the Americans to believe, that the Nazis were burning Christian churches at a large scale? Why did he not say: "Synagogues"? Did he do so regarding widespread antisemitism in the U.S.? Or because he wanted to start a crusade on Germany?

[EdwardRommel]

@scrutograph

When he says "a people that burn churches"..I think he is referring to Jewish Temples(synagogues)..and yes I believe 300 synagogues were burned on Krystalnacht on Nov.9, 1938.

Why draw a distinction between temples and churches? are they not both houses of worship. The US has separation of church and state..and always has had that. Synagogues have NEVER been burned in the USA ..but yes all countries have some anti-semtism.

Very little antisemitism in USA or UK.

[patsyd80]

@EdwardRommel Im not gonna get into what england "would" have done lets stick to the facts and the facts are that england DID stop at the appalachain mountains. If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a truck. I see your point but bringing in the boars and india and saying what could have or would have happand is not really helping you in your row about the native americans. good day sir.

[scrutograph]

@EdwardRommel

One has to analyze the litte trickery in propaganda films. One cant´t even see what is actually burning, when the commentator talks about burning Churches. Before this one can see a Christian church. So the spectator is likely to think, Christian churches were burning in Germany. (Indeed, there was some persecution of Christian clerics, too.)

[scrutograph]

@EdwardRommel The spectator of the film sees a Christian church before the burning. One can´t see what is burning actually. A little propagandistic trickery.

[NeoFascistGop]

Fascist policy has grown in popularity in all countries. Even the US has implemented fascist policy. The thing about fascism, is that it pops up in both communist/socialist countries and capitalists/democracies.

[RideMyBMW]

Call me crazy , but isn´t China sorta following in Germany´s footsteps ?

[Bayboy11235]

One people, one nation, one party, one leader. Hmmmm, kinda looks like it. They even have some territorial demands which they claim to be there's.

[RideMyBMW]

We go ta war with the Commie yams ? I´m taking my CCR CDs to the front dude.