@YanMcDanish It's theorized that spino might win if it can manage to inflict blunt attacks to carcharodontosaurus weak skull, if lucky. There is actually some evidence that carcharodontosaurus may had even hunted spinos due to a fossils found to be broken possibly by carcharodontosaurus. There isn't much evidence at all that would suggest anything otherwise.
@AnaruXII I doubt it, spino is actually just a large lumbering docile fish eater. You may probable even be able to just walk up to them with little problems but might make them worried and flee away while trex on the other hand was a nasty killer amongst land prey and the fact you are a easy prey item to it, chances are, if you were right on front of it, it would probable gulp you down with ease.
Keep in mind this is just a movie, not a documentary by any standards.
what i never really understood about these movie is why are these giant beast chaisng down little itty bitty people? i mean, that's like a person chasing down some speedy, super smart chocolate chips. just not worth it.
actually they are now saying spino walked on all legs not just 2 and he wasa fish eater..no way was he able to run fast enougth ...imagen running with a huge sail on your back ..this movie was a disgrace to the jurassic park series
@thelegendaruzombie even though size doesn't matter it's claws would have been used to claw him. A spinosaurus isn't that wimpy enough to run away like that. It's also smarter. Your opinion is dumb. It's an opinion that you think it should have ran off? It's like saying that the incredible hulk should have ran away from fucking captain america
@GoRamonez Actually t-rex is the smartest large carnivorous dinosaur to ever walk the earth by a large margin, no other has even came close to half the brain size or intellect of tyransaurus and that's not opinion, that's highly proven fact. It's solidly proven to be very strategic. It's also a very muscular built dino, built for power as well. it had to be in order to hunt very advance sophisticated prey such as late cretaceous hadrosaurids, ceratopsians and ankylosaurid(proven to be its prey)
@GoRamonez Keep in mind that spino's claws weren't very effective especially when t-rex was a very muscular dino with a thick hide. Let alone the actual arms are 2/3 smaller then Jurassic Park and weren't nearly as powerful nor even flexible at the wrists and shoulder. so clearly spino's arms don't really makes effective weapons at all. Likely spino would run as for it's undeniable not a fighter nor as any experience in doing so and with its stiffening delicate sail would make it very frightful
spinosaurus is really big. it's bigger and stronger than t rex. t rex is less but has a massive head and sharp teeth. spinosaurus uses its big arms as a weapon. so i think t rex wouldn't win most of the time
Cool video. Great pictures. Anyone got wind that the founder of Prehistoric Channel has written his first thriller book, THE ICE GORILLA is now being looked at by movie producers who are trying to turn the book into a movie. It depends on how well the book sells. Personally for me I'd love to see Jurassic Park IV and THE ICE GORILLA in movie theaters in 2013.
Well truth is, all factual evidence clearly shows spino was a specialist on fishing but very bias on land. You can even see it, long narrow neck and snout equipped with weak jaws and hollowed weak spearing teeth positioned just for fish and high up nostrils. Its sail also made it more adaptable in water while very stiffen, non agile, not swift and much slower on land then what it would be without it. Because of spino's major disadvantages such as its delicate sail, it was too frightful
@MrBorregation "if they increased the velociraptor´s size at double, what can we expect haha" Clearly you don't know how a "raptor" works. Raptors are more successful because of their small size, intellect and because they're so small and light they can latch on to prey and slowly cut them until they bleed to death. If a raptor was 55ft long it wouldn't have any of the attributes or advantages of regular raptors that makes raptors specialists, but that's not what spino was.
@jeobeahon That comment is literally right there and you're replying without reading it first? I never said "this thing didnt actually exist" but I will inform you (since you brought it up), it is possible that is actually a ouranosaurus which died with an ancient weak species of croc and just deteriorated together and when found they were either misunderstood or fraud especially when the jaws have a different chemical compound then the sail. Then again its sail is know to stand out for heat
@jeobeahon It's not a very big theory but since you brought it up, I guess I'll just inform you on this considering it's out there. Its just not confirmed but if so, then "this thing didnt actually exist"
Until then, it's still classified as an actual dinosaur.
@condemned6436 no sorry, i was under the impression the JP3 scientist created this thing as a genetic splice. i guess i was wrong its just now i have to go watch it all over again. thats gonna be a pain.
@condemned6436 there are no evidence in sience for any prehistoric animal or plant. because we were not there to see what happens. so anything might have happened then. some things can't be proved. they have to be seen. i mean, spinosaurus is a theropod. it eats meat, so it's logical to eat any flesh, not only fish. spinosaurus was the biggest predator dinosaur on land. and it has sharp teeth and long arms with sharp claws. it's hilarious that scientists say spinosaurus eat only fish.
@askadetra Actually spino is strongly proven to be a piscivoir. It's geological environment was a swampy mangrove landscape with flowing river and massive amounts of fish. Look at spino's features, long narrow neck and snout equipped with weak jaws and hollowed weak spearing non-serrated teeth(not sharp) positioned just for fish and high up nostrils. Let alone its ancestries is composed of undeniable primary fish eaters. The arms are much shorter then jp and aren't flexible nor able to grip.
@askadetra not dinos are built the same and with the weak anatomy of spino, slender structure and very vulnerable design helps to conclude it wasn't a powerful dino at all and wouldn't even go after medium sized prey especially with such a stiffening sail that makes spino the least agile and reduces its speed far more, as if it wasn't lacking enough of it without it... it's explicitly no land hunter except perhaps for small dinos.
With all the evidence presented, it's undeniably a piscivoir.
@condemned6436 spino fishing is only a theory and opinion by some scientists. the truth is that spino was the biggest theropod and a different lizard, not from the family of carcharodontosaurids or tyrannosaurids. as a predator on land spino hunted on land mostly eating smaller dinosaurs. spino design was not for swimming and hunting only fishes, spino was a hybrid, it could eat fishes and also smaller dinosaurs on land.
@askadetra Spino being a piscivore is strongly evident and with spino's ecosystem being a swampy, river flowing mangrove environment, it makes perfect sense especially with the weak jaws, spearing teeth, overly elongated snout and neck which were also very narrow and a delicate sail with its high up nostrils undeniable states spino was a dino built for fish.
Let alone even the fossils of multiple species of fich with spino's hollowed teeth jammed in and fish barbs stuck in spino's jaws.
@askadetra Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention the water pressure sensor on the tip of its overly elongated snout. Also the chemical compounds in spino' fossils state fish made 90% of spino's main diet.
In short it's strongly evident that spino mainly ate fish throughout its life. But spino could possible hunt small dinos if given the chance
@elmersglue82 first, you better don't paste such a crap from a web site you found. you believe some scientists theory based on no evidences. second, spino skeleton was designed to be a land predator with long legs and tail. while water dinosaurs looked more like fishes and had short limbs. third, spino had sharp teeth and long and a longer jaw than t rex, and long arms for hunting on land. 4, land predators couldn't swim cause they evolved from earliest fishes to land lizards designed for walkin
@askadetra wrote that personally. No evidence that spino was a piscivore? I just gave mutable factual evidence... in fact it's the most strongest and local(I'll repost them since you didn't got thee first time). Spino's legs were actually around the same size as t-rex and for something 51ft, those are relatively short. Spino had non-serrated CONICAL TEETH(not sharp) and very hollowed, in fact those where spearing teeth, only useful on fish.
It's a theropod... they are more related to birds...
@askadetra Oh and before I explain on the spino being a piscivore is strongly proven, let me speak about spino's arms. First of all the arms in jp were 3X larger and thicker then an actual spino. Secondly, spino's arms wee very slow moving due to their mass. Thirdly, they aren't flexable as well as all large theropods which is mainly at the wrists and shoulders. Now ts claws, due to spinosaurid's design, they can't grip nor very effective towards the thick hides of many dinos.
1/2 Spino being a piscivore is strongly evident and with spino's ecosystem being a swampy, river flowing mangrove environment, it makes perfect sense especially with the weak jaws, spearing teeth, overly elongated snout and neck which were also very narrow and a delicate sail with its high up nostrils undeniable states spino was a dino built for fish.
Let alone even the fossils of multiple species of fich with spino's hollowed teeth jammed in and fish barbs stuck in spino's jaws.
2/2 Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention the water pressure sensor on the tip of its overly elongated snout. Also the chemical compounds in spino' fossils state fish made 90% of spino's main diet.
In short it's undeniably strongly evident that spino mainly ate fish throughout its life. But spino could possibly hunt small dinos if given the chance.
@condemned6436 True, but i believe the Spinosaurus' mouth shape is better adjusted for taking on large dinosaurs as it is long enough to go across an entire neck, and its narrow, sharp teeth perfect for gripping prey.
@baa55555a Except spino's jaws are pretty much weak and its teeth were hollowed and were design to spear, not effective toward large prey at all and its eyes are more to the sides of its head and the snout reduces even more visuals. Also it's long snout is even more unsuited for combat, it means less control and it can't move it around much. Let alone when you have a massive sail that stiffens it, makes it non agile, not swift and much slower on land, let alone if broken would kill it instantly.
Weak jaws compared to what? It's at fish the size of great white and you think it's jaws were weak? It's teeth were not hollow, there is not a paleontologist in the world who will tell you that. Lets see crocodiles long narrow jaws eat big prey, monitors will eat prey relatively large compared to themselves. Eyes weren't on the side of the head. You're saying it's not agile with out taking into account any of the leg physiology. If T rex fell hard it would die to, so?
@elitegrunt1 Only if it contains the spinal chord which I belive I read somewhere (feel free to correct me because I am certanly not sure) that it most likely did not. Just like animaljp3 comment before me :)
@condemned6436 Not really, the spinosarus had to compete with other large predators in the same region, such as the carcharodontosaurus. Recent fossil evidence has shown this and both creature suffered fatal wounds from attacks.
@YanMcDanish Just because creatures live in the same environment, doesn't mean they had any real conflict. But during the time of spino, drought started to severally change he environment making its main diet fish less abundant and because spino is so bias on land, it was forced to scavenge off on other more successful land predators such as carcharodontosaurus which it normally lost to which would lead to its complete extinction.
@condemned6436 Fatal wounds on the carcharodontosarus have been found on the neck and other places show the same bite marks of that of a spinosarus. Believe me, im not a huge fan of either dinosaur and was very shocked when i saw this new evidence, but it just irritates me people bashing the spino just because the t-rex is a overall more popular dinosaur. No-one seems to mention that the t-rex was a heavy scavenger and lost many fights with the triceratops.
All predator's are scavenger's there buddy, T-Rex was far from just a heavy scavenger.. it's already been proven T-Rex wouldn't be able to survive even scavenging half the time.. The animal needed an exceeded amount of calories to stay functional.. Otherwise it would fall prey to another T-Rex which are cannibals.
T-Rex is a favored Dinosaur an more Iconic easily, but people don't bash the Spino as much as the bash how it was portrayed in this film, which is perfectly reasonable
@XxComablackxX1937 Yes spinosaurus is larger than t-rex and others it is the largest but not the strongest it has hooked teeth so it can catch fish and t-rex has serrated more teeth and alot stronger than spinosaurus
@condemned6436 uhm, most scientist agrees that the sail was probably used for either attract females (just like roosters red cheeck dont fill any real purpose) or used as a heat regulator. When it comes to the mouth and teeth then yes, it is typical in species that lives on fish. The spino was probably the largest carnivour to exist but it propably didnt not compete on food source with the other giants as its primary source most likely came from fish
@jbwell24 It won because of the fact that is has longer arms to its advantage. Did we skip the part where it grabbed the T-Rex and used its grip to hold it AS it broke its neck? That last sentence had some awesomely fail grammar but i'm sure you understand what I ment.
@XxComablackxX1937 I didn't say it used its arms to snap its neck... it used its arms to HOLD the T-Rex while it snapped its neck with his mouth. Clearly an advantage.
@KELLZ720 Good luck. People cant even outrun a BEAR let alone a huge as spinosaurus. You could maybe outrun a T-rex but not this guy. What if you trip he just swoops you up what about a dead end what about him lunging at you and killing you him trampling you? Another predator jumps infront of you and kills you then kills the spinosaurus You have to know that there alot of ways you could wind up dead.
@johnnyvincentfan only reason why people think that is cause of that moronic numb nuts jack horner every other scientist says differ trying to outrun a trex is like trying to outrun a grizzly which is impossible
@AlmightyMewtwo Umm... You sure? Because the last I checked, (Which was in every Dinosaur book I have that isn't a Dinosaur A-Z), it says Tyrannosaurs could likely only run at 10-15 MPH. Juveniles could probably run a lot faster, in order to hunt Gallimimids.
@AlmightyMewtwo The books I have were written in 2007/2008. Show me where you heard Adult Tyrannosaurs weighing upwards of 5 tons could run faster than a Bear.
T-Rex has now been estimated at 9 to 10 tons as an adult an i do have the article to prove that. T-Rex was also estimated to run about 15 mph but could push upwards of 18/20 mph for a short distance using it's tail to propel itself to ambush it's prey.
Spino at 11 ton's, an now suggested to walk on all 4, an hunted mostly fish an scavenged. Also more along the lines of now assumed 50/55 ft long.. Wasn't much bigger then T-Rex nor as ferocious as Jack Horner even suggested 4 JP3
@XxComablackxX1937 Yeah, no shit about the Rex. Spino's are estimated to be about 20 tons, 50-55 feet is WAY bigger than a (46 feet even by the biggest estimates of skeletons we haven't even found yet) Rex, and if you REALLY have to be another retard who has to start bitching about how the Spino was portrayed in JP3, I'm sorry, but you deserve to be forcefully shown videos of people killing baby seals.
@XxComablackxX1937 On Wikipedia's Spinosaurus article, click source numbers 5 and 6.
And JP3 wasn't entirely terrible (coughbirdcagescenecough) and I actually was kind of happy they switched the Rex, seeing as it already had the spotlight for two movies and I had been waiting for something different. But no, everybody endlessly whines about the Spino on Movieclips' T-Rex Vs. Spino video, proving they are total retards.
@Evolfurnace You are aware that's a 30ft juvenile, right? and if this spino pretty much logically lost, had to be exaggerated just to last that long, done a made up impossible move and barely put up a fight... just imagine when momma and poppa comes back o the obvious nest... in fact, that's logically the baby from the second movie.
@Seltzer1Liter Tyrannosaurs don't grow that fast... It's likely just another Rex. Besides, if you haven't noticed, Jurassic Park has a long history of exaggerating and augmenting their animals. Grant even mentions this with his speech in the beginning of JP3, and then there's that one chapter from the first novel when Wu is discussing with Hammond whether or not they should change the animals to fit the public perception.
@Seltzer1Liter ....Your point? If it's a juvenile, it's bite force isn't as strong as a full grown Rex, making it easier for the Spino to kill it. Also, it was 37 feet, not 30 feet. It's likely living on its own by now.
@Evolfurnace That's redundant as for fossil records show an even smaller 24ft would still easily crush through bone, ligament, limbs, arteries, etc meaning certain death for spino the very moment it was bitten at the neck by that youngster... point being, if even the highly exaggerated spino and (as I said before) pretty much logically lost, had to be exaggerated just to last that long, done a made up impossible move and barely put up a fight... how would it last past 5secs against a full grown?
@Seltzer1Liter IRL It would lose, I know that. I'm talking about in Universe fro JP3, where InGen augmented all of the animals in different ways. They made the Spinosaurus much more powerful then it really was IRL, poweful enough to kill at least a Juvenile Rex. It can't do that in real life, but InGen changed the Spino, just like they changed the Raptors.
@AlmightyMewtwo The books I have were written in 2007/2008. Show me where you heard Adult Tyrannosaurs weighing upwards of 5 tons could run faster than a Bear.
Y'know these two dinosaurs lived during different time periods? So saying who would win in a fight doesn't really matter b/c T Rex never came across a Spino. But IF you wanna press matters I would say T Rex would win. Verocity, large skull, and razor sharp armor piercing teeth. Also, the Raptors in JP aren't REALLY velociraptors. The correct name is Deinonychus, the real velociraptor was no more than the size of a small to medium dog.
@firetools It's too bad they're not called Velociraptors. They should switch their names, really. More people know Deinonychuses as Velociraptors. Oh well...
@toaaxxon123 Actually Giganotosaurus was the second biggest. If you look at Spinosaurus and the sail, your looking at his spine, not a big flap of skin. If he fell over on it he would die instantly. So therefor being the TALLEST and the LONGEST carnivore was Spinosaurus, bigger than any other carnivore that ever walked planet fuckin Earth. bigger than Rex and bigger the Giga.
@mndeer29 yes. biggest was spinosaurs. second in size was giganotosaurus. its name doesn't have to mean that it is the biggest predator on land. they just gave giganotosaurus its name because they couldn't give another name to define the dinosaur. while the names of other dinosaurs mean something about them. the way they look or what they do. other reasons why giganotosaurus was called so are that 1.he's bigger than t rex, 2. was found before spino and thought to be biggest, 3. biggest head
those fuckin so called "experts" say a velociraptor is the size of a turkey. they'll change there minds pretty fast when a 6-foot raptor freakin rips them apart limb by limb
Eveyone is up in arms about the spino... but it is no where near as over-exagurrated as the velociraptors in the JP movies are. Velociraptors looked like slightly larger turkeys... seriously.
Yeah death star is right man, jp's logic is well... Out if date, for example raptors are only bigger than turkeys as Jp mixed up utahraptors and velociraptors, also spinosaurus used it's large claws to scoop up fish and its' elongated snout also points to it being a fish eater, not to mention it had a sail to keep itself cool as if you've ever been to any beach there is a lot more exposure to sunlight. Also that sail was supported by elongated parts of its' spine, hence why it's called spinosau
@DONUTSREVENGED well i think it wouldve made more sense if instead of there being velociraptors they were deinonychus they look exactly like how the velociraptors looked in this movie
@jazzas90000 Well actually the truth is that velociraptors are actually very small dinos that weren't even half the size of the overly exaggerated Jp version but although deinonychus is bigger then velociraptors, they themselves aren't that big either. I think if part 4 ever comes out or if a reboot, the replacement for them should be utahraptors simply becasuse they're around the size if not bigger then Jp raptors.
@dsector52 deinonychus is easily 6 ft tall an utaraptor is 6ft 6 to 7 ft to be honest id go with deinonychus lookin more like th raptors in this movie
My god we are arguring about Spino being larger than T rex let me sum this up Spino was bigger and faster but The Trex was a much better killer so yes this movie is just adding credit to the main dino in the film which happens to be a spino
spinosaurus is the biggest meat eater of the dinosaurs. when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind and we see that the body and the head of the dinosaur is 6-7 meters from the ground, while t-rex reaches 5-6 meters in height.
@askadetra "when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind" That doesn't sound like spino at all, in fact that sounds like the complete opposite. You do realize that spino was even slower then rex right? so that would mean it couldn't burst out of the trees and give chace as you're saying and that's just logic. Yeah spino was bigger as we all know but it wasn't so big that it could kill a rex either way especially with its design and structure.
Oh and btw MOST paleontologists would agree that Spino was a piscivore(fish eater) but through a small theory suggest that a Spino MIGHT go after very small dinos rarely if given the chance. In case you all didn't know that which would mean you're not keeping track on things.
@solewardenator "a theory that spinosaurus was an ambush hunter that attacker from the waterways" I have absolutely NO idea were you heard that from but not only is that ridiculous but if spino is as big as estimated that would mean that therory is impossible. Crocs can do it because they're low to the ground and can get on the waters edges undetected thanks to their height and design which spino didn't had nor preform. They're not actually crocs you know.
"Water" its not like land you could be less than a pound (Minnow) 2000 pounds (nile crocodile) 9 tons (spinosaurus) and even 100 tons (blue whale) and yet still be as graceful as any gazelle. Spinosaurs may well have been able to get low to the ground with the use of its arms and ambush unsuspecting dinosaurs as they drank. Im not saying its fact im just saying its a possibility just like its a "possibility" rex was a scavenger or arthelopleura was a carnivore.
@solewardenator OK now seriously, this whole croc thing you're implying is getting more and more ridicules as time gos on. Do you even understand that all these theories you presented only gets more ridicules then the last. Its arms weren't positioned or even made for that kind of water ambush you're implying, in fact a spino couldn't flat palm the grown nor were they long or even flexible for that. Rex being a straight scavenger was only a small theory that has never been proven or even close.
Now seriously you keep riding along on this croc thing like i said they were brothers?? ive only said on etheorie youve just broken it into several other ones. What the hell are you talking about large arms like spinosaurs wouldunt have as much mobility as mammals but they way youre talking about is that they just sat there like tyranosaurus thats just plain stupid
@solewardenator I really only said this croc thing you're implying is getting ridicules because you're saying a spino attacked like a croc and behaved like a croc despite the fact spino isn't related to them nor designed to be anyway similar such as ambushing dinos in water. You do realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature which is known as a theropod which would mean the arm aren't that flexible especially compared to humans and you're also forgetting about gravity.
No pal youre getting rediculous im saying spinosaurus and crocodiles may have shared some traits its not that far out there bats and birds share traits reptiles and fish share the trait of cold blood "realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature" Wow dude just wow. About the arms kangaroo arms seem to be a more reasonable comparison low slung yet manuverable however not like a humans
@solewardenator Correction I said "you do realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature known as a theropod" (which they were)you do know that all dinos especially theropods descended from a small lizard that had just evolved the hips of modern day lizards that allows them to run on 2 legs as seen even today which was an insect eating creature that was evolving around(if not slightly before)the very first primitive crocodilians.
Therefor the development of Spino(no connections to CROC)
@solewardenator "anphibians"? what? the development of dino was more the like 200mil yrs(a quick estimation) AFTER the first anphibians evolved on land. Dino didn't directly came from anphibians(there was much more in between) how did you not know that?
But through that, theropods really have no connections with crocs
@deathstar976 Also since when did you get the power to pass of theories as fact everything ive said i stated was a theory you have not regardless we dont know for sure shit about any prehistoric animal what makes you different??? you cant just go by looks (i dont know why you did long neck and slender bodies are easily hidden) i mean look at elephants they weigh several tons but did you ever suspect just by looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??
@solewardenator Just by understanding what they are through their ancestors and fossils, you can clearly see how a spino wouldn't wait behind trees then give chaise(it's too slow) and it wouldn't sneak up and ambush them through the water(it's too big to get close enough to the water's edge to do so)
I'm only correcting you on those farfetched theories also spino isn't like a raven(ravens are actually one of the smartest birds) but more like a stork in comparison.
@deathstar976 *facepalm* When did i say trees even so WHY ARE YOU STATING THINGS AS FACT?? besides its simple biology that more lightly built animals tend to move faster than heavier Rhinos and giraffes rhinos are Much bulkier but giraffes are over all bigger yet they travel Much faster than a rhino. But whatever ill let you think what you want. as for water what are you talking about? spinosaurus has alot of traits that appear to be aquatic in nature nostrils on top of its head for 1
@solewardenator *facepalm* You did said "when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind"so yeah you did say that. You really don't get biology do you? spino was larger then rex so logically it was slower and yeah it was much more slender but remember if the estimations of spino's size is correct, the slenderness wouldn't help tits speed at all especially in the way you're putting it. BTW I just said it was aquatic just didn't ambush land prey.
That was the other guy stupid. Giraffes are larger than rhinos but their faster SIZE does NOT equal SPEED
body style does tyrannosaurs being large and bulky would not run that fast. spinosaurs though heavier was more slender and had more weight distrubuted more easily thus FASTER. BTW Now youre just lying you havent said one thing about water other than crocs
@solewardenator Actually a Giraffes doesn't weigh as much as a rhino and the legs of a rhino were kinda short and stubby while Giraffes have longer legs which give them a better strive especially when they're no nearly as large and heavy as a spino which was scaled far beyond that possibility of being faster then rex especially with that sail which also adds weight and is really a drag. As far as the evidence is showing spino couldn't distribute its weight like that and again that's just logic.
@deathstar976 Im seriously about to jump out the window Spinosaurus=taller than tyrannosaurus thus the same principle applies. Sail Hemmorage?? you ever seen cars with fins and other attachments they do whats called aerodynamics and do to some extent allow to vehicle to travel faster the sail here would have a simular place here but obviously not the same the point here is thatthe sail in no way traps wind or impedes progress. since when can you decide what can do what??
@solewardenator Keep in mind spino isn't a car and the fact that spino ran on legs, that sail would not only add size of course but also weight considering that it's made of bone(large extensions to its vertebrates) and the size of the sail itself would help make it slower and actually decreases the distance a spino could run as well just trouh gravity alone and that again is just logic.
It's not so much what I say but what actual logic determines which I base my answers on, it's simply logic.
Actually the design of rex actually makes sense, all theropods are balanced by their tails which is why they all have thick long tails i the first place. Again, spino can't flat palm the grown and it was larger then rex so it would have taken him even longer to turn then rex which is again just logic. Yes giga was built lighter and much more slender then rex but was only slightly larger so the same can't be said with spino logically.
Ancestors have you been paying attention baryonyx was found with igunadon remains in its stomach. also are you serious?? when did i say at all ravens and spinosaurus were the same what on earth did you read??
@solewardenator "looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??" Right there was where you were referencing them to raven, do you read your own comments?but then again I never said you were saying "all ravens and spinosaurus were the same".
@deathstar976 i mean look at ELEPHANTS they weigh several tons but did you ever suspect just by looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??
@deathstar976 oh shut up fool. it is your biggest bullshit you've ever said about spinosaurus. he is not smaller than t rex, spinosaurus is the biggest and was the biggest meat eater dinosaur - as i said 6-7 metres in height. it makes 3 and a half men one over another. it am right what i said the last time. t rex has some chance against spinosaurus, but mostly spinosaurus wins.
@askadetra Apparently you can't read can you? I never said spino was smaller you moron(how did you missed it).MOST paleontologists would agree that Spino was a piscivore(fish eater).
Reality, spino actually as a very low chance at winning though, about (if very lucky) 1 or (by the blessings of God) 2 out of 10 matches just due to logic and the design and structure of spino against the powerful, intelligent and highly experienced Tyrannosaurus-Rex and that's just logic.
@deathstar976 design and structure wise no water what you say spinosaurids are superior to tyranosaurid agility, usable arms and jaw grip are just a few you seem to be among the masses that think tyrannosaurus is the top of the line but in truth they have their flaws as well. horrible coordination and agility are just a few (it had a higher chance of falling than other theropods)
@solewardenator Rex is not invincible but compared to other large theropods and especially spino, rex just has the highest chance of winning. Actually spino has the highest chance of falling compared to rex or giga which had the same to each other. It's not just agility that rex would have but the raw power of this muscular dino would have been too much as well as the bite but lets not forget the higher intelligences a rex would have over a spino and the experience as well,it's just simply logic
@deathstar976 Tyranosaurus had the most awkward positioning of any theropod a massive head balanced by a thick tail it by far had the highest chance of falling spinosaurus on the other hand had arms that allowed to to crouch in a four legged position there is really no further need to explain from here. rex took 4 seconds...to turn how in gods nam can you call it manuverable giganotosaurus was an allosaurid and was built lighter than tyrannosaurus as well +
@deathstar976 "raw power of this muscular dino would have been too much" says who rex "well as the bite" 20 ton bite force proven wrong "higher intelligences" rex's brain was so big because almost half of it was dedicated to smell "experience" fighting herbivores??
@deathstar976 oh shut up you bastard. you know nothing about dinosaurus to tell me what paleontologists would agree. spino is the biggest one, eats not only fish but big dinosaurs too and wins against t-rex dot
@askadetra from such an ignorant troll comment like that, it's pretty obvious you're some deranged fan boy who saw JP3 and believed what ever Jp told him rather then actually read up to date paleontology books and understand logic, anatomy, biology and logic.
If any large theropod couldn't eat whatever it wanted it's spino. It wasn't built like the way you're implying and wasn't meant to fight large land dino especially against rex
why are you still with this after more then 4days have pasted?
@askadetra Oh, and yet everything I just said came directly from up to date paleontology books and through the understandings of biology, anatomy and logic especially through scientific motives point of vie and acknowledging that they're really just ancient animals that all follow the law of physics of which everything does.
Sorry if all logic gos against your own highly inaccurate hypothesis on how very accurate Jp3 was, it's simply logic. You really need to relax and stop trolling.
@deathstar976 who are you trying to lie to? you don't read at all you troll. so shut up and keep your thoughts for yourself. oh and don't think too much because you'll have a head ache
woowww
Sorpof 3 days ago
odeio esse dinossauro,adoro o T REX!
TheZiborgo 1 week ago
thumbnail looked like running in water
JimdiGris1 3 weeks ago
Yes, run out into the OPEN FIELD just to make another b-line for the trees.
Dipstikk 3 weeks ago
1. it is attached to spine, 2. It was not much of a hinderance.
animaljp3 1 month ago
the sail does not contain the spinal chord
animaljp3 1 month ago
@animaljp3 Right, it's attached to it making it a major weakness when "fighting" off other predators and 8/10 times it was killed.
Dragonzord571 1 month ago
The combination of these top comments made me laugh so much.
Kjobbit 1 month ago
@YanMcDanish It's theorized that spino might win if it can manage to inflict blunt attacks to carcharodontosaurus weak skull, if lucky. There is actually some evidence that carcharodontosaurus may had even hunted spinos due to a fossils found to be broken possibly by carcharodontosaurus. There isn't much evidence at all that would suggest anything otherwise.
condemned6436 2 months ago
this fucking thing is scary
maybe scarier than t-rex
AnaruXII 2 months ago
@AnaruXII I doubt it, spino is actually just a large lumbering docile fish eater. You may probable even be able to just walk up to them with little problems but might make them worried and flee away while trex on the other hand was a nasty killer amongst land prey and the fact you are a easy prey item to it, chances are, if you were right on front of it, it would probable gulp you down with ease.
Keep in mind this is just a movie, not a documentary by any standards.
deathstar976 2 months ago
@1legomaster I'll call the A-team!
blackswanguy 2 months ago
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Why do people look up the dinosaur just to whine about it?
MexicantGame 2 months ago
i still cant belive amatures in this small movie clip are able to out runn a dinosaur even if its just a movie its so unrealistic
dreakheart 2 months ago
Wtf is it with KELLZ720's comment? The one everybody's responding to doesn't even exist :S
UrAnus1231 3 months ago
The Spino was pretty boss but my favorite dino is the king T-Rex
captainkeys12 3 months ago
can you even imagine...being back in time SURROUNDED by, essentially, a variety of monsters that will eat you by nightfall. holy god thatd be scary
avedic 3 months ago
what i never really understood about these movie is why are these giant beast chaisng down little itty bitty people? i mean, that's like a person chasing down some speedy, super smart chocolate chips. just not worth it.
kyohattress34654 3 months ago
actually they are now saying spino walked on all legs not just 2 and he wasa fish eater..no way was he able to run fast enougth ...imagen running with a huge sail on your back ..this movie was a disgrace to the jurassic park series
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@thelegendaruzombie even though size doesn't matter it's claws would have been used to claw him. A spinosaurus isn't that wimpy enough to run away like that. It's also smarter. Your opinion is dumb. It's an opinion that you think it should have ran off? It's like saying that the incredible hulk should have ran away from fucking captain america
GoRamonez 3 months ago
@GoRamonez Actually t-rex is the smartest large carnivorous dinosaur to ever walk the earth by a large margin, no other has even came close to half the brain size or intellect of tyransaurus and that's not opinion, that's highly proven fact. It's solidly proven to be very strategic. It's also a very muscular built dino, built for power as well. it had to be in order to hunt very advance sophisticated prey such as late cretaceous hadrosaurids, ceratopsians and ankylosaurid(proven to be its prey)
condemned6436 3 months ago
@GoRamonez Keep in mind that spino's claws weren't very effective especially when t-rex was a very muscular dino with a thick hide. Let alone the actual arms are 2/3 smaller then Jurassic Park and weren't nearly as powerful nor even flexible at the wrists and shoulder. so clearly spino's arms don't really makes effective weapons at all. Likely spino would run as for it's undeniable not a fighter nor as any experience in doing so and with its stiffening delicate sail would make it very frightful
condemned6436 3 months ago
T-rex should have won.. I mean the Spino's teeth were to weak to be able to cause that much damage.. In my opinion, the Spino should have ran off.
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spinosaurus is really big. it's bigger and stronger than t rex. t rex is less but has a massive head and sharp teeth. spinosaurus uses its big arms as a weapon. so i think t rex wouldn't win most of the time
askadetra 4 months ago
Damn nature u scary
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Thooth Less.
dyno1316 4 months ago
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Cool video. Great pictures. Anyone got wind that the founder of Prehistoric Channel has written his first thriller book, THE ICE GORILLA is now being looked at by movie producers who are trying to turn the book into a movie. It depends on how well the book sells. Personally for me I'd love to see Jurassic Park IV and THE ICE GORILLA in movie theaters in 2013.
prehistoric28 4 months ago
Well truth is, all factual evidence clearly shows spino was a specialist on fishing but very bias on land. You can even see it, long narrow neck and snout equipped with weak jaws and hollowed weak spearing teeth positioned just for fish and high up nostrils. Its sail also made it more adaptable in water while very stiffen, non agile, not swift and much slower on land then what it would be without it. Because of spino's major disadvantages such as its delicate sail, it was too frightful
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@condemned6436 if they increased the velociraptor´s size at double, what can we expect haha
MrBorregation 4 months ago
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@MrBorregation "if they increased the velociraptor´s size at double, what can we expect haha" Clearly you don't know how a "raptor" works. Raptors are more successful because of their small size, intellect and because they're so small and light they can latch on to prey and slowly cut them until they bleed to death. If a raptor was 55ft long it wouldn't have any of the attributes or advantages of regular raptors that makes raptors specialists, but that's not what spino was.
condemned6436 4 months ago
@condemned6436 i thought this thing didnt actually exist... or is my sarcas-meter broken again?
jeobeahon 4 months ago
@jeobeahon That comment is literally right there and you're replying without reading it first? I never said "this thing didnt actually exist" but I will inform you (since you brought it up), it is possible that is actually a ouranosaurus which died with an ancient weak species of croc and just deteriorated together and when found they were either misunderstood or fraud especially when the jaws have a different chemical compound then the sail. Then again its sail is know to stand out for heat
condemned6436 4 months ago
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@jeobeahon It's not a very big theory but since you brought it up, I guess I'll just inform you on this considering it's out there. Its just not confirmed but if so, then "this thing didnt actually exist"
Until then, it's still classified as an actual dinosaur.
condemned6436 4 months ago
@condemned6436 no sorry, i was under the impression the JP3 scientist created this thing as a genetic splice. i guess i was wrong its just now i have to go watch it all over again. thats gonna be a pain.
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@condemned6436 there are no evidence in sience for any prehistoric animal or plant. because we were not there to see what happens. so anything might have happened then. some things can't be proved. they have to be seen. i mean, spinosaurus is a theropod. it eats meat, so it's logical to eat any flesh, not only fish. spinosaurus was the biggest predator dinosaur on land. and it has sharp teeth and long arms with sharp claws. it's hilarious that scientists say spinosaurus eat only fish.
askadetra 3 months ago
@askadetra Actually spino is strongly proven to be a piscivoir. It's geological environment was a swampy mangrove landscape with flowing river and massive amounts of fish. Look at spino's features, long narrow neck and snout equipped with weak jaws and hollowed weak spearing non-serrated teeth(not sharp) positioned just for fish and high up nostrils. Let alone its ancestries is composed of undeniable primary fish eaters. The arms are much shorter then jp and aren't flexible nor able to grip.
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condemned6436 3 months ago
@askadetra not dinos are built the same and with the weak anatomy of spino, slender structure and very vulnerable design helps to conclude it wasn't a powerful dino at all and wouldn't even go after medium sized prey especially with such a stiffening sail that makes spino the least agile and reduces its speed far more, as if it wasn't lacking enough of it without it... it's explicitly no land hunter except perhaps for small dinos.
With all the evidence presented, it's undeniably a piscivoir.
condemned6436 3 months ago
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@condemned6436 spino fishing is only a theory and opinion by some scientists. the truth is that spino was the biggest theropod and a different lizard, not from the family of carcharodontosaurids or tyrannosaurids. as a predator on land spino hunted on land mostly eating smaller dinosaurs. spino design was not for swimming and hunting only fishes, spino was a hybrid, it could eat fishes and also smaller dinosaurs on land.
askadetra 3 months ago
@askadetra Spino being a piscivore is strongly evident and with spino's ecosystem being a swampy, river flowing mangrove environment, it makes perfect sense especially with the weak jaws, spearing teeth, overly elongated snout and neck which were also very narrow and a delicate sail with its high up nostrils undeniable states spino was a dino built for fish.
Let alone even the fossils of multiple species of fich with spino's hollowed teeth jammed in and fish barbs stuck in spino's jaws.
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@askadetra Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention the water pressure sensor on the tip of its overly elongated snout. Also the chemical compounds in spino' fossils state fish made 90% of spino's main diet.
In short it's strongly evident that spino mainly ate fish throughout its life. But spino could possible hunt small dinos if given the chance
elmersglue82 3 months ago
@elmersglue82 first, you better don't paste such a crap from a web site you found. you believe some scientists theory based on no evidences. second, spino skeleton was designed to be a land predator with long legs and tail. while water dinosaurs looked more like fishes and had short limbs. third, spino had sharp teeth and long and a longer jaw than t rex, and long arms for hunting on land. 4, land predators couldn't swim cause they evolved from earliest fishes to land lizards designed for walkin
askadetra 3 months ago
@askadetra wrote that personally. No evidence that spino was a piscivore? I just gave mutable factual evidence... in fact it's the most strongest and local(I'll repost them since you didn't got thee first time). Spino's legs were actually around the same size as t-rex and for something 51ft, those are relatively short. Spino had non-serrated CONICAL TEETH(not sharp) and very hollowed, in fact those where spearing teeth, only useful on fish.
It's a theropod... they are more related to birds...
elmersglue82 3 months ago
@askadetra Oh and before I explain on the spino being a piscivore is strongly proven, let me speak about spino's arms. First of all the arms in jp were 3X larger and thicker then an actual spino. Secondly, spino's arms wee very slow moving due to their mass. Thirdly, they aren't flexable as well as all large theropods which is mainly at the wrists and shoulders. Now ts claws, due to spinosaurid's design, they can't grip nor very effective towards the thick hides of many dinos.
elmersglue82 3 months ago
1/2 Spino being a piscivore is strongly evident and with spino's ecosystem being a swampy, river flowing mangrove environment, it makes perfect sense especially with the weak jaws, spearing teeth, overly elongated snout and neck which were also very narrow and a delicate sail with its high up nostrils undeniable states spino was a dino built for fish.
Let alone even the fossils of multiple species of fich with spino's hollowed teeth jammed in and fish barbs stuck in spino's jaws.
elmersglue82 3 months ago
2/2 Oh, I can't believe I forgot to mention the water pressure sensor on the tip of its overly elongated snout. Also the chemical compounds in spino' fossils state fish made 90% of spino's main diet.
In short it's undeniably strongly evident that spino mainly ate fish throughout its life. But spino could possibly hunt small dinos if given the chance.
elmersglue82 3 months ago
@condemned6436 True, but i believe the Spinosaurus' mouth shape is better adjusted for taking on large dinosaurs as it is long enough to go across an entire neck, and its narrow, sharp teeth perfect for gripping prey.
baa55555a 3 months ago
@baa55555a Except spino's jaws are pretty much weak and its teeth were hollowed and were design to spear, not effective toward large prey at all and its eyes are more to the sides of its head and the snout reduces even more visuals. Also it's long snout is even more unsuited for combat, it means less control and it can't move it around much. Let alone when you have a massive sail that stiffens it, makes it non agile, not swift and much slower on land, let alone if broken would kill it instantly.
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@condemned6436
Weak jaws compared to what? It's at fish the size of great white and you think it's jaws were weak? It's teeth were not hollow, there is not a paleontologist in the world who will tell you that. Lets see crocodiles long narrow jaws eat big prey, monitors will eat prey relatively large compared to themselves. Eyes weren't on the side of the head. You're saying it's not agile with out taking into account any of the leg physiology. If T rex fell hard it would die to, so?
MexicantGame 2 months ago
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@condemned6436 braken the spine would paralize behind it but if the break was in the sail it would not paralize anything.
animaljp3 2 months ago
@animaljp3 the sail is part of the spine so yes it would get paralized
elitegrunt1 1 month ago
@elitegrunt1 Only if it contains the spinal chord which I belive I read somewhere (feel free to correct me because I am certanly not sure) that it most likely did not. Just like animaljp3 comment before me :)
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liopleorodon 3 months ago
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@condemned6436 but still. Is it the reason to hate this movie
liopleorodon 3 months ago
@condemned6436 Not really, the spinosarus had to compete with other large predators in the same region, such as the carcharodontosaurus. Recent fossil evidence has shown this and both creature suffered fatal wounds from attacks.
YanMcDanish 2 months ago
@YanMcDanish Just because creatures live in the same environment, doesn't mean they had any real conflict. But during the time of spino, drought started to severally change he environment making its main diet fish less abundant and because spino is so bias on land, it was forced to scavenge off on other more successful land predators such as carcharodontosaurus which it normally lost to which would lead to its complete extinction.
condemned6436 2 months ago
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@condemned6436 Fatal wounds on the carcharodontosarus have been found on the neck and other places show the same bite marks of that of a spinosarus. Believe me, im not a huge fan of either dinosaur and was very shocked when i saw this new evidence, but it just irritates me people bashing the spino just because the t-rex is a overall more popular dinosaur. No-one seems to mention that the t-rex was a heavy scavenger and lost many fights with the triceratops.
YanMcDanish 2 months ago
@YanMcDanish
All predator's are scavenger's there buddy, T-Rex was far from just a heavy scavenger.. it's already been proven T-Rex wouldn't be able to survive even scavenging half the time.. The animal needed an exceeded amount of calories to stay functional.. Otherwise it would fall prey to another T-Rex which are cannibals.
T-Rex is a favored Dinosaur an more Iconic easily, but people don't bash the Spino as much as the bash how it was portrayed in this film, which is perfectly reasonable
XxComablackxX1937 2 months ago
@XxComablackxX1937 Yes spinosaurus is larger than t-rex and others it is the largest but not the strongest it has hooked teeth so it can catch fish and t-rex has serrated more teeth and alot stronger than spinosaurus
JimdiGris1 3 weeks ago
@condemned6436 uhm, most scientist agrees that the sail was probably used for either attract females (just like roosters red cheeck dont fill any real purpose) or used as a heat regulator. When it comes to the mouth and teeth then yes, it is typical in species that lives on fish. The spino was probably the largest carnivour to exist but it propably didnt not compete on food source with the other giants as its primary source most likely came from fish
pepparmostheelder 1 month ago
@pepparmostheelder sarcosuchus
animaljp3 1 month ago
@condemned6436 so are you saying its nowhere near as badass as the movie tries to portray it?
kyle21843 1 month ago
@condemned6436 Yes but in the movie he won because of the fact it was a younger T-rex.
jbwell24 1 month ago
@jbwell24 It won because of the fact that is has longer arms to its advantage. Did we skip the part where it grabbed the T-Rex and used its grip to hold it AS it broke its neck? That last sentence had some awesomely fail grammar but i'm sure you understand what I ment.
HDGodStyle 2 weeks ago
@HDGodStyle
Except in reality it's arms in this movie were 3x as large as they were in real life, it also could not use it's arms to snap a T-Rex's neck.
T-Rex's neck muscles were of the strongest of all the large theropods, which is what gave it's jaws such an immense bite force.
Watch planet Dinosaur 2011 on Spino, This is a very inaccurate few on the creature.
Spino ate mostly fish an small land Dinos, T-Rex would have been the dominate predator on that island.
XxComablackxX1937 2 weeks ago
@XxComablackxX1937 I didn't say it used its arms to snap its neck... it used its arms to HOLD the T-Rex while it snapped its neck with his mouth. Clearly an advantage.
HDGodStyle 2 weeks ago
i love how all the comments below me are responces
SammyUchiha1 4 months ago
that's why I wouldn't go to that island without a bazuka, a grenade launcher, and a flamethrower!
blackswanguy 5 months ago
And where would you get that equipment? Thats right you couldn't unless your in the army. Good luck going on Isla Nublar and getting ripped in half.
1legomaster 2 months ago
i would fucking shit my pants to death if that thing was running after me
chocolatebear333 5 months ago
@KELLZ720 nope I do to lol
EddEdnEddy98 5 months ago
@EddEdnEddy98 yessss
KELLZ720 5 months ago
am i the only one that thinks this looks fun?
KELLZ720 5 months ago
@KELLZ720 What? Running from a giant predator? You are the only one.
WafflezDay 5 months ago 15
@KELLZ720 Yeah its soo fun. Untill the spinosaurus catchs up to you and rips you in half still fun ?
johnnyvincentfan 5 months ago 5
@johnnyvincentfan did i say anything about getting eaten?
KELLZ720 5 months ago
@KELLZ720 IT would still kill you and eat you
johnnyvincentfan 5 months ago
@johnnyvincentfan not if i out run it
KELLZ720 5 months ago
@KELLZ720 Good luck. People cant even outrun a BEAR let alone a huge as spinosaurus. You could maybe outrun a T-rex but not this guy. What if you trip he just swoops you up what about a dead end what about him lunging at you and killing you him trampling you? Another predator jumps infront of you and kills you then kills the spinosaurus You have to know that there alot of ways you could wind up dead.
johnnyvincentfan 5 months ago
@johnnyvincentfan u cant outrun a t-rex its speed plus its huge strides
AlmightyMewtwo 5 months ago
@AlmightyMewtwo You can outmanuver it. Go search up human outrun trex there is forums of nerds/scientetst arguing about it so see it.
johnnyvincentfan 5 months ago
@johnnyvincentfan only reason why people think that is cause of that moronic numb nuts jack horner every other scientist says differ trying to outrun a trex is like trying to outrun a grizzly which is impossible
AlmightyMewtwo 5 months ago
@AlmightyMewtwo Umm... You sure? Because the last I checked, (Which was in every Dinosaur book I have that isn't a Dinosaur A-Z), it says Tyrannosaurs could likely only run at 10-15 MPH. Juveniles could probably run a lot faster, in order to hunt Gallimimids.
Evolfurnace 4 months ago
@Evolfurnace those dinosaur books are outdated trex actually runs quite fast for a big guy
AlmightyMewtwo 4 months ago
@AlmightyMewtwo The books I have were written in 2007/2008. Show me where you heard Adult Tyrannosaurs weighing upwards of 5 tons could run faster than a Bear.
Evolfurnace 4 months ago
@Evolfurnace t-rex was 10t heavy,according to newest studies.
Chomolongma93 4 months ago
@Evolfurnace
T-Rex has now been estimated at 9 to 10 tons as an adult an i do have the article to prove that. T-Rex was also estimated to run about 15 mph but could push upwards of 18/20 mph for a short distance using it's tail to propel itself to ambush it's prey.
Spino at 11 ton's, an now suggested to walk on all 4, an hunted mostly fish an scavenged. Also more along the lines of now assumed 50/55 ft long.. Wasn't much bigger then T-Rex nor as ferocious as Jack Horner even suggested 4 JP3
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@XxComablackxX1937 Yeah, no shit about the Rex. Spino's are estimated to be about 20 tons, 50-55 feet is WAY bigger than a (46 feet even by the biggest estimates of skeletons we haven't even found yet) Rex, and if you REALLY have to be another retard who has to start bitching about how the Spino was portrayed in JP3, I'm sorry, but you deserve to be forcefully shown videos of people killing baby seals.
Evolfurnace 3 months ago
@Evolfurnace
20 tons my ass, where's your proof?
Bitching, Nah just disgusted JP3 was terrible regardless of how Spino was portrayed.
XxComablackxX1937 3 months ago
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@XxComablackxX1937 On Wikipedia's Spinosaurus article, click source numbers 5 and 6.
And JP3 wasn't entirely terrible (coughbirdcagescenecough) and I actually was kind of happy they switched the Rex, seeing as it already had the spotlight for two movies and I had been waiting for something different. But no, everybody endlessly whines about the Spino on Movieclips' T-Rex Vs. Spino video, proving they are total retards.
Evolfurnace 3 months ago
@Evolfurnace You are aware that's a 30ft juvenile, right? and if this spino pretty much logically lost, had to be exaggerated just to last that long, done a made up impossible move and barely put up a fight... just imagine when momma and poppa comes back o the obvious nest... in fact, that's logically the baby from the second movie.
Seltzer1Liter 3 months ago
@Seltzer1Liter Tyrannosaurs don't grow that fast... It's likely just another Rex. Besides, if you haven't noticed, Jurassic Park has a long history of exaggerating and augmenting their animals. Grant even mentions this with his speech in the beginning of JP3, and then there's that one chapter from the first novel when Wu is discussing with Hammond whether or not they should change the animals to fit the public perception.
Evolfurnace 3 months ago
@Evolfurnace Well we all know jp isn't at all logical but if it's 30ft it's a juvenile bey default either way.
Seltzer1Liter 3 months ago
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@Seltzer1Liter ....Your point? If it's a juvenile, it's bite force isn't as strong as a full grown Rex, making it easier for the Spino to kill it. Also, it was 37 feet, not 30 feet. It's likely living on its own by now.
Evolfurnace 3 months ago
@Evolfurnace That's redundant as for fossil records show an even smaller 24ft would still easily crush through bone, ligament, limbs, arteries, etc meaning certain death for spino the very moment it was bitten at the neck by that youngster... point being, if even the highly exaggerated spino and (as I said before) pretty much logically lost, had to be exaggerated just to last that long, done a made up impossible move and barely put up a fight... how would it last past 5secs against a full grown?
Seltzer1Liter 3 months ago
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@Seltzer1Liter IRL It would lose, I know that. I'm talking about in Universe fro JP3, where InGen augmented all of the animals in different ways. They made the Spinosaurus much more powerful then it really was IRL, poweful enough to kill at least a Juvenile Rex. It can't do that in real life, but InGen changed the Spino, just like they changed the Raptors.
Evolfurnace 3 months ago
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@AlmightyMewtwo The books I have were written in 2007/2008. Show me where you heard Adult Tyrannosaurs weighing upwards of 5 tons could run faster than a Bear.
Evolfurnace 4 months ago
Strong scene
maooahm 6 months ago
Omg I just realized the one bald man with the mustache running in the back is mr noodle from sesame street!!! Omg
zebra77788 6 months ago
@zebra77788 omg i see it now too
sonicthehedgehog1985 5 months ago
deathstar976 you are uneducated asshole
askadetra 6 months ago
Y'know these two dinosaurs lived during different time periods? So saying who would win in a fight doesn't really matter b/c T Rex never came across a Spino. But IF you wanna press matters I would say T Rex would win. Verocity, large skull, and razor sharp armor piercing teeth. Also, the Raptors in JP aren't REALLY velociraptors. The correct name is Deinonychus, the real velociraptor was no more than the size of a small to medium dog.
firetools 6 months ago
@firetools It's too bad they're not called Velociraptors. They should switch their names, really. More people know Deinonychuses as Velociraptors. Oh well...
bladefinor 6 months ago
@firetools I think in JP1 most dinosaurs weren't even from the Jurassic period lol
Michiru7690 5 months ago
@firetools Spinosaurus is like 17-20 meters long, being the biggest theropod in its time, being followed by the Giganotosaurus
toaaxxon123 4 months ago
@toaaxxon123 Actually Giganotosaurus was the second biggest. If you look at Spinosaurus and the sail, your looking at his spine, not a big flap of skin. If he fell over on it he would die instantly. So therefor being the TALLEST and the LONGEST carnivore was Spinosaurus, bigger than any other carnivore that ever walked planet fuckin Earth. bigger than Rex and bigger the Giga.
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@mndeer29 yes. biggest was spinosaurs. second in size was giganotosaurus. its name doesn't have to mean that it is the biggest predator on land. they just gave giganotosaurus its name because they couldn't give another name to define the dinosaur. while the names of other dinosaurs mean something about them. the way they look or what they do. other reasons why giganotosaurus was called so are that 1.he's bigger than t rex, 2. was found before spino and thought to be biggest, 3. biggest head
askadetra 3 months ago
those fuckin so called "experts" say a velociraptor is the size of a turkey. they'll change there minds pretty fast when a 6-foot raptor freakin rips them apart limb by limb
dinosareawesome1 6 months ago
are the rumors about a fourth movie true?
M4levolence 6 months ago
@M4levolence More likely, yes.
KILLSHOCK1100 6 months ago
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insomniacfreakify 6 months ago
@insomniacfreakify What was there not to get?!...
dsector52 6 months ago
Eveyone is up in arms about the spino... but it is no where near as over-exagurrated as the velociraptors in the JP movies are. Velociraptors looked like slightly larger turkeys... seriously.
yoshiguy123 6 months ago
Yeah death star is right man, jp's logic is well... Out if date, for example raptors are only bigger than turkeys as Jp mixed up utahraptors and velociraptors, also spinosaurus used it's large claws to scoop up fish and its' elongated snout also points to it being a fish eater, not to mention it had a sail to keep itself cool as if you've ever been to any beach there is a lot more exposure to sunlight. Also that sail was supported by elongated parts of its' spine, hence why it's called spinosau
DONUTSREVENGED 6 months ago
@DONUTSREVENGED well i think it wouldve made more sense if instead of there being velociraptors they were deinonychus they look exactly like how the velociraptors looked in this movie
jazzas90000 6 months ago
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dsector52 6 months ago
@jazzas90000 Well actually the truth is that velociraptors are actually very small dinos that weren't even half the size of the overly exaggerated Jp version but although deinonychus is bigger then velociraptors, they themselves aren't that big either. I think if part 4 ever comes out or if a reboot, the replacement for them should be utahraptors simply becasuse they're around the size if not bigger then Jp raptors.
dsector52 6 months ago
@dsector52 deinonychus is easily 6 ft tall an utaraptor is 6ft 6 to 7 ft to be honest id go with deinonychus lookin more like th raptors in this movie
jazzas90000 6 months ago
My god we are arguring about Spino being larger than T rex let me sum this up Spino was bigger and faster but The Trex was a much better killer so yes this movie is just adding credit to the main dino in the film which happens to be a spino
higurashifan23 7 months ago
spinosaurus is the biggest meat eater of the dinosaurs. when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind and we see that the body and the head of the dinosaur is 6-7 meters from the ground, while t-rex reaches 5-6 meters in height.
askadetra 7 months ago
@askadetra "when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind" That doesn't sound like spino at all, in fact that sounds like the complete opposite. You do realize that spino was even slower then rex right? so that would mean it couldn't burst out of the trees and give chace as you're saying and that's just logic. Yeah spino was bigger as we all know but it wasn't so big that it could kill a rex either way especially with its design and structure.
deathstar976 7 months ago
Oh and btw MOST paleontologists would agree that Spino was a piscivore(fish eater) but through a small theory suggest that a Spino MIGHT go after very small dinos rarely if given the chance. In case you all didn't know that which would mean you're not keeping track on things.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 There is also a theory that spinosaurus was an ambush hunter that attacker from the waterways just in case you didnt know.
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator "a theory that spinosaurus was an ambush hunter that attacker from the waterways" I have absolutely NO idea were you heard that from but not only is that ridiculous but if spino is as big as estimated that would mean that therory is impossible. Crocs can do it because they're low to the ground and can get on the waters edges undetected thanks to their height and design which spino didn't had nor preform. They're not actually crocs you know.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976
"Water" its not like land you could be less than a pound (Minnow) 2000 pounds (nile crocodile) 9 tons (spinosaurus) and even 100 tons (blue whale) and yet still be as graceful as any gazelle. Spinosaurs may well have been able to get low to the ground with the use of its arms and ambush unsuspecting dinosaurs as they drank. Im not saying its fact im just saying its a possibility just like its a "possibility" rex was a scavenger or arthelopleura was a carnivore.
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator OK now seriously, this whole croc thing you're implying is getting more and more ridicules as time gos on. Do you even understand that all these theories you presented only gets more ridicules then the last. Its arms weren't positioned or even made for that kind of water ambush you're implying, in fact a spino couldn't flat palm the grown nor were they long or even flexible for that. Rex being a straight scavenger was only a small theory that has never been proven or even close.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976
Now seriously you keep riding along on this croc thing like i said they were brothers?? ive only said on etheorie youve just broken it into several other ones. What the hell are you talking about large arms like spinosaurs wouldunt have as much mobility as mammals but they way youre talking about is that they just sat there like tyranosaurus thats just plain stupid
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator I really only said this croc thing you're implying is getting ridicules because you're saying a spino attacked like a croc and behaved like a croc despite the fact spino isn't related to them nor designed to be anyway similar such as ambushing dinos in water. You do realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature which is known as a theropod which would mean the arm aren't that flexible especially compared to humans and you're also forgetting about gravity.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976
No pal youre getting rediculous im saying spinosaurus and crocodiles may have shared some traits its not that far out there bats and birds share traits reptiles and fish share the trait of cold blood "realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature" Wow dude just wow. About the arms kangaroo arms seem to be a more reasonable comparison low slung yet manuverable however not like a humans
solewardenator 7 months ago
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deathstar976 7 months ago
@solewardenator Correction I said "you do realize that spino is a reptilian bird like creature known as a theropod" (which they were)you do know that all dinos especially theropods descended from a small lizard that had just evolved the hips of modern day lizards that allows them to run on 2 legs as seen even today which was an insect eating creature that was evolving around(if not slightly before)the very first primitive crocodilians.
Therefor the development of Spino(no connections to CROC)
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976
????? im pretty sure the word youre looking for here is anphibians you know the first vertabrates to come to land
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator "anphibians"? what? the development of dino was more the like 200mil yrs(a quick estimation) AFTER the first anphibians evolved on land. Dino didn't directly came from anphibians(there was much more in between) how did you not know that?
But through that, theropods really have no connections with crocs
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 Also since when did you get the power to pass of theories as fact everything ive said i stated was a theory you have not regardless we dont know for sure shit about any prehistoric animal what makes you different??? you cant just go by looks (i dont know why you did long neck and slender bodies are easily hidden) i mean look at elephants they weigh several tons but did you ever suspect just by looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator Just by understanding what they are through their ancestors and fossils, you can clearly see how a spino wouldn't wait behind trees then give chaise(it's too slow) and it wouldn't sneak up and ambush them through the water(it's too big to get close enough to the water's edge to do so)
I'm only correcting you on those farfetched theories also spino isn't like a raven(ravens are actually one of the smartest birds) but more like a stork in comparison.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 *facepalm* When did i say trees even so WHY ARE YOU STATING THINGS AS FACT?? besides its simple biology that more lightly built animals tend to move faster than heavier Rhinos and giraffes rhinos are Much bulkier but giraffes are over all bigger yet they travel Much faster than a rhino. But whatever ill let you think what you want. as for water what are you talking about? spinosaurus has alot of traits that appear to be aquatic in nature nostrils on top of its head for 1
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator *facepalm* You did said "when the gang started to run from the spinosaurus, the spinosaurus came out of the trees behind"so yeah you did say that. You really don't get biology do you? spino was larger then rex so logically it was slower and yeah it was much more slender but remember if the estimations of spino's size is correct, the slenderness wouldn't help tits speed at all especially in the way you're putting it. BTW I just said it was aquatic just didn't ambush land prey.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976
That was the other guy stupid. Giraffes are larger than rhinos but their faster SIZE does NOT equal SPEED
body style does tyrannosaurs being large and bulky would not run that fast. spinosaurs though heavier was more slender and had more weight distrubuted more easily thus FASTER. BTW Now youre just lying you havent said one thing about water other than crocs
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator Actually a Giraffes doesn't weigh as much as a rhino and the legs of a rhino were kinda short and stubby while Giraffes have longer legs which give them a better strive especially when they're no nearly as large and heavy as a spino which was scaled far beyond that possibility of being faster then rex especially with that sail which also adds weight and is really a drag. As far as the evidence is showing spino couldn't distribute its weight like that and again that's just logic.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 Im seriously about to jump out the window Spinosaurus=taller than tyrannosaurus thus the same principle applies. Sail Hemmorage?? you ever seen cars with fins and other attachments they do whats called aerodynamics and do to some extent allow to vehicle to travel faster the sail here would have a simular place here but obviously not the same the point here is thatthe sail in no way traps wind or impedes progress. since when can you decide what can do what??
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator Keep in mind spino isn't a car and the fact that spino ran on legs, that sail would not only add size of course but also weight considering that it's made of bone(large extensions to its vertebrates) and the size of the sail itself would help make it slower and actually decreases the distance a spino could run as well just trouh gravity alone and that again is just logic.
It's not so much what I say but what actual logic determines which I base my answers on, it's simply logic.
deathstar976 7 months ago
Actually the design of rex actually makes sense, all theropods are balanced by their tails which is why they all have thick long tails i the first place. Again, spino can't flat palm the grown and it was larger then rex so it would have taken him even longer to turn then rex which is again just logic. Yes giga was built lighter and much more slender then rex but was only slightly larger so the same can't be said with spino logically.
deathstar976 7 months ago
Ancestors have you been paying attention baryonyx was found with igunadon remains in its stomach. also are you serious?? when did i say at all ravens and spinosaurus were the same what on earth did you read??
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator "looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??" Right there was where you were referencing them to raven, do you read your own comments?but then again I never said you were saying "all ravens and spinosaurus were the same".
deathstar976 7 months ago
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@deathstar976 i mean look at ELEPHANTS they weigh several tons but did you ever suspect just by looking at them they could swim? or ever looked at a raven and think they were smart??
You really dont read my post do you??
solewardenator 7 months ago
@deathstar976 oh shut up fool. it is your biggest bullshit you've ever said about spinosaurus. he is not smaller than t rex, spinosaurus is the biggest and was the biggest meat eater dinosaur - as i said 6-7 metres in height. it makes 3 and a half men one over another. it am right what i said the last time. t rex has some chance against spinosaurus, but mostly spinosaurus wins.
askadetra 7 months ago
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deathstar976 7 months ago
@askadetra Apparently you can't read can you? I never said spino was smaller you moron(how did you missed it).MOST paleontologists would agree that Spino was a piscivore(fish eater).
Reality, spino actually as a very low chance at winning though, about (if very lucky) 1 or (by the blessings of God) 2 out of 10 matches just due to logic and the design and structure of spino against the powerful, intelligent and highly experienced Tyrannosaurus-Rex and that's just logic.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 design and structure wise no water what you say spinosaurids are superior to tyranosaurid agility, usable arms and jaw grip are just a few you seem to be among the masses that think tyrannosaurus is the top of the line but in truth they have their flaws as well. horrible coordination and agility are just a few (it had a higher chance of falling than other theropods)
solewardenator 7 months ago
@solewardenator Rex is not invincible but compared to other large theropods and especially spino, rex just has the highest chance of winning. Actually spino has the highest chance of falling compared to rex or giga which had the same to each other. It's not just agility that rex would have but the raw power of this muscular dino would have been too much as well as the bite but lets not forget the higher intelligences a rex would have over a spino and the experience as well,it's just simply logic
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 Tyranosaurus had the most awkward positioning of any theropod a massive head balanced by a thick tail it by far had the highest chance of falling spinosaurus on the other hand had arms that allowed to to crouch in a four legged position there is really no further need to explain from here. rex took 4 seconds...to turn how in gods nam can you call it manuverable giganotosaurus was an allosaurid and was built lighter than tyrannosaurus as well +
solewardenator 7 months ago
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deathstar976 7 months ago
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@deathstar976 "raw power of this muscular dino would have been too much" says who rex "well as the bite" 20 ton bite force proven wrong "higher intelligences" rex's brain was so big because almost half of it was dedicated to smell "experience" fighting herbivores??
solewardenator 7 months ago
@deathstar976 oh shut up you bastard. you know nothing about dinosaurus to tell me what paleontologists would agree. spino is the biggest one, eats not only fish but big dinosaurs too and wins against t-rex dot
askadetra 7 months ago
@askadetra from such an ignorant troll comment like that, it's pretty obvious you're some deranged fan boy who saw JP3 and believed what ever Jp told him rather then actually read up to date paleontology books and understand logic, anatomy, biology and logic.
If any large theropod couldn't eat whatever it wanted it's spino. It wasn't built like the way you're implying and wasn't meant to fight large land dino especially against rex
why are you still with this after more then 4days have pasted?
deathstar976 7 months ago
@askadetra Wait, you're getting these extremely false stories from monsters reconstructed.
deathstar976 7 months ago
@deathstar976 shut up you loser. keep your bullshits for yourself. you know nothing to argue, idiot. your comments are useless
askadetra 7 months ago
@askadetra Oh, and yet everything I just said came directly from up to date paleontology books and through the understandings of biology, anatomy and logic especially through scientific motives point of vie and acknowledging that they're really just ancient animals that all follow the law of physics of which everything does.
Sorry if all logic gos against your own highly inaccurate hypothesis on how very accurate Jp3 was, it's simply logic. You really need to relax and stop trolling.
deathstar976 7 months ago
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@deathstar976 who are you trying to lie to? you don't read at all you troll. so shut up and keep your thoughts for yourself. oh and don't think too much because you'll have a head ache
askadetra 6 months ago
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