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  • Thank you! One of the better demonstrations of tai chi applications on line. Very clear, practical and useful.

  • Fantastic. So rare to see it applied do nicely.

  • m a b0xer ,,,,,but n0w i wana learn every single technique 0f each and every martial arts,,,,,,but the main pr0blem is i d0nt have any 0pp0nent wh0 can help me practicing these as i kn0w wid0ut practice these a11 are useless,,,,,,,,and firstly the main thing i wana learn is t0 f0cus the attacks my eyes r n0t s0 fast s0 dat i can act swift1y f0r my defence,,,,plz help me t0 fasten my eyes and m0ves,,,,,,plz te11 me the exercise f0r fasten the eyes,,,,,

  • 2:31 is awesome I'm going to try it out lol

  • @GTneos

    Notice how his body winds to the back of his opponent before throwing the sweep?

  • You guys underestimating Tai Chi obviously know nothing about Tai Chi and Martial art in general. The "real" punches, are not that hard to deflect when you have a minimum of training and/ or instinct. If punching hard is all you know, you better never face a real fighter. When you can defend yourself effortlessly, where is the need to attack with brutality? «Be fluid, be formless, be water my friend.»

  • @RaphProgListener "Real" punches aren't easy to deflect. A proper punch is thrown faster than human reflexes are capable of reacting to. This is why fighters respond to tells like twitching in the shoulders and breathing, and that's why feints work. If you could simply knock a jab or a right straight out of the air, there would be no need for what's called xu shi and ting jing in kung fu; the same principle. And even in boxing punches aren't thrown quite as "hard" as you think

  • @TheHobophobic It's simple body mechanics, that a proper punch isn't something thrown wildly, and is even what some might describe as a "soft" movement. With your elbows in and you shoulders relaxed, you sharply turn your abdomen, pushing back on your rear leg, ending in something very closely resembling a bow stance, launching your right hand forward in synch with the torque your body produces and tighten your fist. It is fast, powerful and fluid. That is the boxing straight

  • @TheHobophobic And any fighter worth their salt can retract a strike just as fast as they can throw it, because returning to guard is important. So is evading. I don't believe taiji is useless. I was fortunate enough to study bajiquan when I was younger, and it's said that its "fajin" and boxing theory is very similar to chen taiji. And I have seen people practice and use taiji, and I happen to know, that the slow movements, called long form, are just one facet of taiji training

  • @TheHobophobic  In reality, there are long forms and short forms. In the long form, you pay careful attention to your body and how it moves. You break down every little sequence and aim to make it perfect, and then in the short form, you practice doing the same movements quickly and powerfully, while trying to maintain the precision you painstakingly practiced in the long form. It's about muscle memory. And then, finally, you practice against a real, live, resisting opponent

  • @TheHobophobic That is called tui shou. The goal of tui shou is simple. You lock arms with an opponent, and attempt to put them on their back while you stay on your feet. It is essentially stand up grappling. And while in most competitions, sweeps and locking aren't allowed, taiji does have techniques for these, and it's not uncommon for traditional practitioners to use them in tuishou.

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  • @TheHobophobic And even after saying all this it's an oversimplification, even my description of a straight is oversimplified, and that second video, it's not really proper tuishou, more just a tech demo, but it's still the truth that Chen Bing is throwing a man twice his size across the ring. Of course there is usefulness in having technique like that. Just look at Tim Cartmell. He is a BJJ panamerican champion. But his background is 11 years in taiji, xingyi and bagua

  • @TheHobophobic I've kind of lost my point somewhere along the way in this spiel, because I'm really tired of arguing the point, there's so much ignorance on both sides of the fence. Any legitimate martial art and any sport fighting, has its merits when practiced properly and diligently. Taijiquan is a martial art with a long cultural history of being used for fighting. Because it works. So does jujitsu and so does boxing. But be real about it.

  • @TheHobophobic Forms are important and drills are important. But by themselves they are useless. It's like learning music theory and notation without ever playing an instrument. You can know everything in the world about music and you can even try to make the shapes of chords with your hands, but you will never be able to play music, deftly, without practicing the real thing. Like anything else in this world, you learn to fight, in any martial art, by actually doing it.

  • @TheHobophobic Martial artists are so keen to start a pissing contest and it's especially silly when coming from proponents of MMA, being that MMA is just an acronym for mixed martial arts. Taijiquan might translate to "supreme ultimate fist" but it's a moniker that should be taken with a grain of salt. All the great masters of the past cross trained. MMA is a good idea. MMA just being another name for muay thai + jujitsu is kind of narrow minded

  • @TheHobophobic I was more talking about the usual hard punch "big guys" throw in a fight.

    I'm tired of these stupid comments about big punchers being able to knock any martial artist who doesn't rely on punching hard.

    With training (or even without ) you can deflect them and use their momentum against them. and throwing punches faster than human reflex? I am more than skeptical.

  • @RaphProgListener If you really believe that, walk into a boxing or an MMA gym and try it. Once a punch has been thrown, it's likely already too late, it will reach your face faster than you can blink. A straight can easily be as fast as a fastball and it travels only the length of an arm. Even taiji and other CMA acknowledge this, and it's why ting jing, or "listening energy", is so paramount to the style, and it's nowhere near as easy to develop as you seem to think it is

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  • @RaphProgListener They call it "kinetic chess" for a reason. I've studied kung fu. I've known people that do taiji. And I've kickboxed. And I've been in real fights where real people have really tried to knock me out. To say that a well trained punch could be swatted out of the air like a lazily fluttering bug by just anybody, flies in the face of everything martial artists around the world dedicate themselves to, and it's frankly kind of offensive

  • @TheHobophobic damn, i was defending martial artists and tai chi because i believe all these comments about MMA or boxing or the big guy you know well and saw fighting "can beat any martial artist with a big punch" are stupid.

    I never talked about "well trained guys throwing super fast punch" but the usual non martial artist guy trying to punch you. stay on topic when you argue.

  • RaphProgListener

    Listen to hobophobic, this video is a prime example of bullshitty techniques & patterns that go out the window when applied to sparring.

    The whole MMA vs TMA crowd comes down to skepticism & asking for proof. If one cannot use their moves against a resisting opponent there is a huge hole in their training. To argue that ''deadly moves'' aren't allowed is simply to acknowledge one has to rely on bites/gouging etc to ''win'' rather than have good technique

  • @TheTvrulesthenation Again, none of my business, but here I agree and disagree. I dont see MMA PROVING there effectiveness in war or on the streets of east st. louis at night. And I dont think the MMA community are going to take anyone up on that challenge, Again. Intent is everything, but you speak like you know everything. You dont either.

  • RaphProgListener

    It is like weapon disarms, you will NEVER see the dogg brothers (full contact weapon sparring) doing weapon disarms or advocating them....the reason why, when applied in sparring they don't work.

    It is not the art but the training that matters, sparring time after time has proved to be the most effecient.

  • @TheTvrulesthenation I humbly disagree there. Sparring without the real intent of causing real damage is pretend. Thats why I dont spar and call it real defense. Its not. Real is someone trying to kill you. Sparring is worthless for that reality. Most respectfully I say this.

  • Taktek2012

    Self-defence classes have parameters too, i can just as easily turn around & say you have rules to your self-defence sparring (after all you dont rip the bollix off your opponent) & assumptions that groin hits will drop an opponent or inhibit them.

    I just prefer my type of sport-sparring over the likes found in many TMA classes

    I don't act like i know everything, thats the irony. These type of videos do claim, i'm merely skeptic

  • @TheTvrulesthenation Thank you for your reply. Being a skeptic is great and I agree that resistance training is worthwhile as long as it doesnt violate a tactical principle. I agree as well that movements, techniques and tactics practiced slowly does teach one how to vector, proper angles, footwork, focus and other attributes as well as ingraining those attributes in the subconscious. I was ....

  • @TheTvrulesthenation ....referencing your statement, "bullshi..y patterns go out the window when applied to sparring. Those kinds of statements come from a warring mind rather than intelligent argument in my opinion. My point isnt necessarily against anything, rather finding the value in all things, and most importantly being a model of respect and kindness rather than indifference.

  • @TheTvrulesthenation Again, sparring and real combat are so far separated, there isn't even a bridge. Sparring is controlled and a known environment. Disarms do work if done properly. Sparring is good too....for competition in a controlled environment but I have yet to see anyone put on gloves and fight in the street. Problem is, finding good quality instruction is not easy today.

  • tai chi the hidden secret of slowness and is the only that is done being slow in all martial arts...!

  • I should have googled before posting- his teacher was his father.

  • Does anyone know who Master Fu's teacher was? Or his links with Wu style?

  • Anakeekatodacroch

  • I remember seeing this clip a few years ago, I still like it

    

  • And the chance of that working against a real punch is...? Yup, you guessed it. Slim to none...

  • @Moodo1 Catching punches takes practice and training.It's kind of like punching. When I first started boxing, my punches were slow and unaccurate. But as I practiced, trained and progressed farther, they became more powerful and more accurate. Then I trained in Tang Soo Do. And same thing, Kicks were bad at first, then kicks were good. If someone trains in catching punches, I'm pretty sure they practice it in realistic speed and from different angles. Video's only Demonstration.

  • @Moodo1

    and what is a "real" punch ? some kind of punch people like you throw when the stumble drunk through a barfight or what ?

    criticising a martial art you´ve never experienced your own doesn´t really speak for your smartness.

  • @schulleee And how do you know who I am? I have a black belt in taekwondo and hapkido, these days I´m a wing chun instructor and have been training in w.c for about 8 years, so Ithink I DO know what a real punch looks like, do you? I have dedicated 29 years of my life to martial arts, so I do know what a working technique looks like.

  • @Moodo1

    nice essay, but you still did not define a "real" punch. is it a short jab, a swing, a punch from the waist or an internal punch from wing chun or tai chi ??

    besides that i teach wing chun myself and i say lots of those techniques are very close to the ones of wing chun.

    and if you really are a wing chun (not WT or EWTO) instructor, and if you allready common with the whole system, you should know how and why those kind of techniques work.

  • Marvelous ! In a sea of BS Chi video's this is a rare island of solid martial arts.

  • all i heard is something about hitting in the crotch and i laughed like hell XD

  • 1:53 looked like he was lifting a feather!

  • In the eyes of this layman, Chinese martial arts seem to place a higher emphasis on good footwork and balance than I've seen in Japanese and Korean styles. YMMV.

  • tiger style:)

  • Sorry I got cut off there. I was saying don't use YouTube as a reference for internal because chances are that you will never see a good internal guy here. Go out and experience internal yourself with a good master. Play with him a bit, you will see the difference between internal and external.

  • @fateslastwarrior In order to see internal Kungfu, you must have internal kung Fu yourself. If all you study is external then yes it is very hard to see the power of internal Kung Fu. When used in a real situation it is not slow at all. I have been struck by a few internal masters and it is like nothing you've felt before. I would say of all the people studying internal arts out there, unfortunately about 95% of them are doing wrong, not talking bad about anybody but its true. Dont use YouTub

  • So why is tai chi called the ultimate fist If ultimately you never throw a fist...? I study bak hsing choy lee fut and I don't get how these slow movements can ward off a good offence.

  • @fateslastwarrior

    If you know how to push, you know how to punch. Because it's easier.

  • i'm agree with this Last coment , i practice the Aïkido & the Taïji Quan , the Taïji helped me a lot in Aïkido too & both have the same spirits , no competition , no fight only the training with a partenar

  • I have to be honest I was skeptical at first with Tai Chi but it has really improved my standup game in Judo. Learning how to shift your bodyweight in very subtle and unexpected ways is very beneficial to take down defence. I would recommend Tai Chi to any Judoka or grapplers out there. Find a good teacher, swallow your preconceptions and train hard!

  • i know i learned something today

  • It's worth mentioning and wondering why these application don't do much to really disable the attacker. All propositions about the devastating effects of 'internal' power aside, the incoming attacker is deflected and often ends up on the ground, but would have little more to regret for his efforts than a few scraped palms. Why don't we see more attacking, grabbing, and twisting of the head instead of simply disengaging the opponent and giving him another opportunity?

  • @sagaciousdonquixote Defense is as important as offence. If he's on the floor you can then pin him there until authorities arrive, or futher disable him. You've definately got a point that the attack isn't harmed- but that's part of the philosophy. Be better, karmatically, than your opponent by showing him mercy rather than retaliating with a harmful counter-attack. It is possible however, with some moves shown here, to break a joint if enough pressure is applied such as elbow or shoulder.

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  • It would be so shameful to get your ass kicked by a guy wearing his trousers that high!

  • 2:36 cant be used for brock lessnar's F5

  • This is Very Good! Ham Hao! Xie Xê for this. Shifu Velzi Moreschi

  • karate does the same thing without the fancy impractical movements.

  • @TietCanhVit With minimal effort like here? Taichi people will point out subtle differences so say that after you've experienced the style

  • Man I want him as a teacher please!

  • Am i the only one hearing tho, thu, ophu, thaa, phaa, thou all the time :|

  • there`s just something with the past

  • i will give what ever you want if any one can teach me tai chi

  • this is so far the better video i've watch about tai chi combat

  • ok, that covers if he is pushing me. Thank you for that. But what he starts kicking me in the nads?

  • @MrBloodFight Push Hands is not about technique, it is a way of testing internal stength. It is not about what if he does this or what if he does that. In a real situation you are only going to use maybe 4 so called techniques in your life. Tai chi is about many different things but starts with making your health better, then if practised properly and long enough you build internal power, then doesnt matter if you get hit or you hit he will pay. Your body should react naturally,( no thought

  • @MrBloodFight Run away, or if you're so inclined, a good kick in the nads ought to do him in too! Cheers mate.

  • sweet, never thought of a lot of that stuff.

  • Tai Chi is the grand ultimate fist. Its something like a combination of pa kua and hsing i. This internal art is probably one of the best out there. The guy in the video has great skill!

  • It is totally NOT a combination of Bagua and Xingyi.Can you please explain why you would say that?

  • @nanhuazhenren You are correct, and I am wrong technically. In my experience with these three internal arts, from my prespective, sometime it seems that it has the characteristics of the two combined. Not always, but some of the time, I never said "always, rather its something like the...." Anyway, after watching this master, I have a tremendous amount of respect for him because he would without doubt "dust" me in combat. And I am only 32 yrs old LOL. Is that better said?

  • Well, no.I mean you didn´t answer my question^^ Don´t get me wrong, I ain´t tryna offend you.Could you just give me some examples of moves or applications, in which you can see this?

    And that he would dust A LOT of people is totally right :-D

  • @nanhuazhenren Well, I really cannot say this move or that move as a reference, however some of the circular movements kind of remind me of pa-kua applications, and some of the more straight forward linear movements remind me of some Hsing-i. My experience in Hsing-i is limited but I do have more knowledge of pa-kua. Ofcoarse, I am not referring to walking the circle or anything like that, just saying that Tai Chi seems to be somewhat of a combination of the two, but Tai Chi is superior IMO.

  • @nanhuazhenren Also, some people have a misconception that all Tai Chi is slow moveing, but their are some forms out there that have explosive parts as well (in the forms). Anyway, I was referring to the circular hand movements as well as the linear footwork, sinking of body weight, breathing, ect. This is just my point of view though, its far from fact. Anyway, I love the internal arts and believe they are the best.

  • this is a great video it makes me so annoyed when people say that tai chi is no good and also that it isnt a martial art its obvious my friends are idiots

  • Crotch shot in under a minute! True badass!

  • clearly people underestimate Tai Chi

    mainly because it is done slowly

    truth is it works better when that attackers attacks at full speed

  • @eddiedaskull

    thats something, i also experienced. the chi works best, when the attack comes too fast to think about it.

  • @eddiedaskull Well said except, let them keep underestimating it.

  • Tai chi gets a bad reputation in todays society. But it can be vicious.

    Ive fallen victim to variants of the brush-knee-twist-step and ward off a few times. Ouch.

  • sexy

    

  • some of these moves look like execution skills, always ends up with a crotch shot!!! 2:54 looks painful as well!!!

  • Ha ha ha ( 1:54 ).

    He lift it like nothing.

  • Sir, excuse me.

    Had you ever fought against an Aikido-ka Master?? :)

    Just curious ^^.

    Tai chi looks cool :D.

  • Ha ha ha ( 1:54 ) he lift it like nothing ><.

  • at last something

  • Excellent video thanks

  • thank you

  • great

  • an old man you don't want to mess with

  • wonderful the sifu uses small internal spirals to nuetralize off center and redirect or attack his opponents insufficiecies

  • Many of his applications are quite different than expected even though his style uses the same form as the Yang style. I like this approach to tai chi which uses clearly defined techniques rather than just blasting people away with press or peng.

  • 2:36

    my favorite

  • This is excellent

  • i took tai-chi...I wanna take it all which is what im doing lols

  • good for the disabilitees

  • @TheLibertard good for every one

  • Thank you very much this video is grate! I love Tai Chi but some of the applications are quite bad but most of them are good.

  • Some nice simple applications - a pleasure to watch

  • o so thats needle at sea bottom

  • max defense applicated tai chi !!! good video my compliment for the master !!

  • good video

  • Great video. Thanks for sharing. I just wanted to mention, in case some don't make the connection on their own, that Fu Wing-fei and  Fu Yong-hui are the same person (Cantonese vs. Mandarin), and he is Fu Zhen-song's son. I assume the young men in the video are his sons Fu Shen-long (Victor Fu who currently lives in Vancouver B.C.) and Fu Wen-long (who I think is still in China).

    Fu Yong-hui (Fu Wing-fei) was Bow Sim Mark's primary teacher.

  • @Greendragontaichi Fu Wen Long is in the blue shirt. Sheng Long is not in this video. The other two guys are students, but not family.

  • nice stuffs

  • Very nice! It is all there in the movements if you know where to look.

  • this is really good. is there more of this

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