Yessir Kirk, you can always trust those who claim to be infused with the spirit of God to act in the best interests of society. Take a cue from Him. He minds other people's business far less than you and your vituperative, fundamentalist ilk. You're lucky God's a recluse. If He weren't he'd be perpetually suing the lot of you who for wreaking relentless havoc on this planet and ignorantly, blithely, doing so in His name. If it please God, grant Christopher Hitchens a new lease on life.
I'll give this guy credit. He has really found a way to make a great living! Great Acting Kirk! He is praying all the way to the bank - like most religious folk!
Sorry to keep commenting, but what right does Kirk Cameron have to spout the beliefs of the deceased? It would be one thing if he knew what he was talking about. Einstein was much closer to an agnostic, and refuted the Bible. Isaac Newton did many things in secret, and unbelievably was able to teach despite not being in the priesthood due to his genius. He WAS however, deeply into alchemy and the occult. Regardless, what does the beliefs of 15the century astronomers have to do with anything?
And we still have people who's belief system mirrors the 19th century. We're still arguing birth control, and the role of women. Worldwide we still have witch hunts, and people getting stoned to death. Again, these are all brief examples of some thinking patterns, people are of course much more multifaceted than these facile parallels. These belief systems inevitably have boundless clashes with each other, and it's quite apparent in daily living. These times we live in are quite interesting.
We don't all live in the same time period anymore. This is the first time in humanity that this has really happened. We have three centuries battling it out through individual beliefs. These are only brief examples. Present time of course - people who live in the now, the 21st century, have a symbiotic relationship with technology, are more open minded, (I'll argue that point later if need be) etc. 20th century- Luddites, people who think of the racist era as the "good old days", etc.
Wow, I can hardly believe some of the below comments. Apparently and unfortunately, you all must not be Christrians. I feel sorry for you if you honestly believe their is no God. I guess you all also believe that our world is not coming to the end of existence too. I feel it is so close and that my friend, should scare you. If you do not believe that, read the book of Revalations and see if you cannot tie the coming of Christ to what is actually happening in the world we live today.
@MrALBEEZE The people of the middle ages said exactly the same. And they were closer to the "prophecies" than present times. It shall forever be, that religion breeds reassurance to the believers as a coping mechanism from the chaos of life. That's one of the better consequences of holding such avid beliefs. And it works for EVERY religion, even cults. If it didn't, people wouldn't believe such things. As a true Christian you should feel love, not pity for those you deem unsaved.
Where do I start? He only sees two points of view: "Evolution" & "The Gospel". What about the rest of the world which is not Christian? Are they by default all incorrect in their belief systems? Does he not see the harm in having one religion be taught in public institutions? Don't we have freedom of religion? Doesn't freedom of religion make it illegal for Government to favor one and discriminate the others? How is separation of Church & State an attack on his Church?
All he really did is waste a lot of paper because when people hand college kids things about god all they do is throw them away..I know from experience. Stop fooling yourself you toolbag and work on something proactive.
Um.. he says evolution is wrong because Hitler used the idea in a twisted way to justify mass murder?
It was 1 strand of hundreds or thousands of strands that made up Hitler's twisted personal philosophy - he also listened to classical music - so is Mozart "wrong"?
Its just blatant marketing technique of using fear and loathing associated with the Hitler persona. No intellectual credibility to this argument at all - Kirk is a professional actor - like Obama - plenty of style - no substance.
wtf? this man is a moron. creationism is an idea akin to others such as "The world is Flat" and "the earth is the center of the universe" its a dated idea that has NO PLACE WHATSOVER in schools.
The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, not a moral compass. Even though Darwin is racist is not going to change the fact that evolution did occur. There is no proven connection between Darwin and Hitler, even though it is connected, Hitler was just using a scientific theory as a moral compass to excecute the Holocaust and that is also not going to change the fact that evolution did occur, occurring and continue to occur.
What exactly is the other side of the argument? What will they teach in this creationist classroom? All i've heard from these creationist is ad hominem and strait out lies. Not one solid argument can be made. I challenge anyone to present a clear and concise argument that is pro creationism.
What an idiot. A balanced view of creationism!!!??? Evolution is not an opinion, it's SCIENTIFIC FACT. Anyway, I always say WWBD... what would Boner do? Who cares what Mike Seaver thinks?
Yes, I'm an idiot! You're so right! And the world WAS created in six days! And it's only a few thousand years old, and dinosaurs didn't exist and woman WAS created out of a man's rib!! I see the light.. praise Jesus and hallelujah! You're thorough logical and astute explanation has changed my mind and cleansed my bedeviled soul... Oh thank you... thou art an enlightened soul with an amazing power of elucidation and education. Ill see you in church on sunday... for some new brainwashing.
man, I love the lord, but what is this moron actor going on about? hes one of the people who drive people away from Christ instead of bringing them into the fold... God is Love not some retarded babble by a washed up actor
@renatetio So the people who go by peer reviewed evidence are weak minded, but those who follow bronze age doctrine without question think for themselves? Makes sense.
@JamesHLanier The same people who are feeding us the info in these so called peer reviewed journals are substituents of the people who are ruining the world. Believe what you want. Maybe it makes you feel smart to read but you're being mislead. Evolution in the context that they are teaching is a complete hoax. Even Darwin at the end of his life questioned his theory. He had no idea about the structure and complexity of DNA.
@renatetio Evolutionary biologists have already dismissed Darwin's theories of DNA. However, this does not invalidate his theory of evolution and natural selection.
Isn't it possible that God created the big bang? No? Well then Kirk, where did space come from? Are there no other life forms out there other than us here on Earth? Did God create aliens? Also, what fossils are you expecting to find? They have fossils from apes&fossils of early man. Evolution happens when an animal has offspring with a mutation, if the mutation is an improvement, it gets passed on. Of course there are no "in between" fossils. Dos anyone know what Kirk thinks of dinosaurs?
@Ocrisia83 Why would there not be evidence of the changing of a species. According to the Darwin's chart it depicts a in between period for the evolution of man. Again if we evolved and are better then prior form why would thee other still exist? Take for instance the Big Bang Theory. The word theory (which I am sure you know this I do not say to belittle in any sense.) does not mean fact. So how is that more truth bound then creation that is stated in the bible?
@deacon21206 I didn't say there is no evidence of a species changing, just that animals don't run around half evolved.Anyway,out of billions of dinosaurs, the %of fossils we've axctually found is miniscule.So not finding 1of those missing links doesn't prove they don't exist.Please understand, I believe in God.But there IS proof of evolution.Believing in God is faith.Evolution is fact,as proven by the animals who are evolving right in front of us,like the elephants w no tusks.
@Ocrisia83 I do agree with the physical adaptation of people and animals. When it comes to many different habitats, but that man comes from apes. No sir If you believe you must believe in the bible as well. Not just specific parts. Science to me is great as suplimental knowledge to what is already done. I do reject contrary things to what I believe as does all who believe in anything. Who said there were billions of dinosaur species? An expert. All theory until proven so.
@deacon21206 and I really appreciate that you're not ranting or calling names, because I hate fighting with people. We can have differing viewpoints without hatig each other.Christians &athiests fight all the time and I hate it. I think everyone should be able to believe what they want without others trying to change their way of thinking. Unless the other person WANTS to talk about it, and asks ?s, like here. But too often ppl push beliefs onto others when it's unwelcome.
@deacon21206 But that's the thing, there IS evidence of the changing of a species. I gave some in one of my lower comments, about farming cultures. Elephants are being born with no tusks. The thing is, every animal or being we see, is a transitional animal. Humans used to be shorter, and had more hair. In a few thousand years, who knows what we'll look like. There are no "transitional fossils" only if you think of transititional as for example, an elephant with half a tusk.
@deacon21206 eveolution doesn't work that way. we're transitional. everything we see is evolving, every offspring created is evolving, but the bchanges are so small we don't notice. That's why we can look at something from thousands of years ago and compare it to something now, and say wow it's so diferent, but if we had watched that animal every day and seen the changes as they happened, it would look like nothing was changing day to day. There's a kind of lizard which recently
@Ocrisia83 started carrying it's eggs to term,actually having a live birth rather than laying eggs,because when they were laying eggs too often they'd be eaten.So the lizard evolved.You're right when you say these are all theories,but there is no denying that species do chage.The Big Bang Theory is something else entirely, that iS theory, and there is no proof of that, other than math.Einstein's theory of relativity has recently been proven wrong.But they at least try2 understand it.
& What I don't understand about ppl who only believe in the bible is that they don't try to learn more about where we came from.It's like they take it at it's word,&refuse to hear any other theories.I know evolution disprovesGod as is written in the bible,but is doesn't disprove everything about Him.One more thing I don't understand-we can literally see into the past millions of yrs by looking thru a telescope.When ppl say we're only 6k yrs old, do they mean the earth, oreverything?
@ItsDatCajunStuff Who determines smart? There are people that are of great intelligence that believe an explosion from nothing created everything. Doesn't sound so far feteched from "dumb people" believing that someone created something out of nothing.
Could it be that atheism is growing because it frees people to use their minds? Isn't the statistic about our nations most intelligent individuals being atheists more revealing of the fact that the more you learn, the less likely you are to fall for a lie? Evolution is a fact, and you deserved to lose that debate. You lied, and you got what was coming to you.
@aharmlesspie LOL this comment made me laugh at the fact that it proved not one thing out each word that was used. Seriously to be atheist takes the same way of thinking it takes to be a christian. Which is the belief in the hope that you are right for what you believe in. Intelligence has nothing to do with what is right or wrong.
@deacon21206 Being an theist is nothing like being a christian. First of all ,we aren't trying to command people to live a certain way. Second of all, we wait for proof before we recognize anything as being true. We don't have to hope we are right, we have to experiment and observe; sometimes we are right, but when we are wrong, we accept it and move on. We're all human, but the religious among us have the hardest time saying that they have made a mistake. Admit you are wrong, grow the hell up.
@aharmlesspie Obviosuly you didn't even read what I said and prejudge me and was completely wrong. I also see that your statement about getting facts first may not always be true either the way you crammed past experiences at me. I said the thought process behind the beliefs of either. Just because you don't believe makes me wrong. That is a bad way of forcing your theories on me.
@deacon21206 Were you under the impression that I was singling you out? If you are a part of religion, that's your thing. It doesn't change the fact that overall, religion is strongly resistant to change. You assumed that it takes the same attitude to be an atheist as to be religious, and that couldn't be further from the truth. It takes no faith to be an atheist. I don't believe in things for which there can never be proof. I'll admit though, it takes balls to defend an idiot like Cameron.
@aharmlesspie Hopefully you will read my post in full next time before writing me off as crazy and aggressive. Forcing my faith on people. I don't believe it is right of fair to push any belief on anybody. We all have been given a choice to choose what we want to believe in. You chose what is true to you and I chose what works for me. We will see in the end who was right. Have a good day.
@deacon21206 I read your reply and understood what you said quite well. I don't attempt to push belief on anyone. I try to present evidence for my claims, and then they can decide whether or not to recognize the reality of what is being presented. I didn't chose anything because it was "true to me", I simply recognize it as true because the evidence is there. If "what works for you" is a system of belief without evidence, any evidence one presents will do nothing to enlighten you.
@deacon21206 Last, but certainly not least, things that are provably true go on being true whether you believe them or not. You do not chose to believe or disbelieve in evolution, you chose to accept or reject reality. Reality is completely unfazed by what you believe. You can truly believe that if you really really want to you can levitate, but gravity will always be there to remind you of the difference between belief and testable fact.
@aharmlesspie LOL again i said thought process ot attitude. And everyone uses faith in life. Perfect example. If you have a work schedule that says you must be to work march 6, 2012. Then it takes faith to think you will be there. Why because you have no evidence in the fact you or your job will be there that day. Why because there isn't any evidence that proves you will wake up tomorrow. Also you believe things that don't have true evidence. Example the theory of your existence.
@deacon21206 You are now confusing the idea of a scientific theory, and a colloquial theory. Since I have been to work several times before(experiment), and it has been there every time I have gone(observation), I have much support for my theory of workplace existence. Also, I can go there and see whether or not it is still there, as in, I can prove or disprove its existence. God's existence is not subject to this possibility, and my lack of belief continues.
@aharmlesspie I enjoy this conversation it is enlightening in certain areas. Also there isn't evidence for everything so youo don't believe what there isn't evidence for. Like a true beginning to how the universe began. LOL to believe in a theory or any theory for that matter. Theories don't equal true. You seem to be intelligent. So I don't understand how you can not see the flaws in the theories of such smart people that come up with these theories.
@deacon21206 I can see flaws in intelligent arguments and theories of all kinds. BUT, when the body of evidence for a given theory is built up so much, as in the case for evolution, it ceases to be a theory in the colloquial sense, and becomes a fact. You are correct, I withhold judgement until evidence supports a given theory. I think it is more a folly to trust those who have accepted a given truth that goes against the evidence.
@aharmlesspie For the record I respect science when it doesn't try to disprove the existence of God. Every time you attempt to say he isn't real the crazier the theories. Example being the big bang theory or the belief in evolution with any real proof that it existed. No archeological proof of fossils or hybrid fossils of the evolution or period between. Also that we still have not evolved in thousands of years and why a species that has evolved stopped evolving into humans. Facts
@deacon21206 Please for the love of your deity go to any respectable natural science museum. The truth is that every fossil, that isn't the end of the line, is a transitional fossil. You and I are transitional forms. Please read about evolution and come back with a real understanding of it before saying things like this. Fossilization is an exceptionally rare event. DNA tells the real story, and it shows the unmistakable connection between every living thing that has ever lived on this planet.
@deacon21206 Also, I am not an evolutionary biologist, yet, but evolution typically happens over incredibly large timescales. I can only guess, and perhaps there is someone more qualified than me to say, but humans may be evolving slower because rather than changing to fit our environment, we change our environment to fit us. I think our civilization is evolving technologically in lieu of our natural evolution. Like I said, there are probably people who could give you a more accurate answer.
@deacon21206 Lastly, I don't want any of this to sound arrogant or all knowing. Please understand that I am desperately pleading with you to look these things up and verify what I say. I can't get desperation very easily into my posts here, but I feel hopeless on a daily basis because so many people tend to just believe what they read or see on the internet/television and forget the importance of research and study.
@deacon21206 Lastly, I don't want any of this to sound arrogant or all knowing. Please understand that I am desperately pleading with you to look these things up and verify what I say. I can't get desperation very easily into my posts here, but I feel hopeless on a daily basis because so many people tend to just believe what they read or see on the internet/television and forget the importance of research and study.
@deacon21206 Not facts. First of all I don't know how things like the big bang and evolution disprove God. They may disprove the idea that the earth was created in 7 days, but they don't disprove God. Second, we have NOT stopped evolving, just because you can't see it doesn't mean nothing is happening in our DNA. Eskimos have developed resistance to cold. Among primitive farming tribes, big eaters of tubers, which contain little folic acid,selection has shaped the genes involved in
@deacon21206 synthesizing folic acid in the body. If you want evolution you can see, look at doorways in houses from 200 years ago and how much smaller they were. People were shorter. We are constantly evolving, it's just not always obvious from the outside. Evolution mostly takes place over long periods of time. 1,000 yrs seems long to us, but in the scheme of the universe its less than a blink of an eye. If anything, I think science and evolution prove intelligent design.
@Ocrisia83 Okay what is your stance because you are all over the place I don't know you are on the side that God exist or doesn't just a bunch of terminologies. At first sight. I see you also see you did not mention or even comment on the statement I made about evolution. LOL if we evolved from ape why are there still apes. They would no longer serve a purpose that only some of them evolved, but the rest will not. Do things adapt to their surroundings. Yes, but what is your stance?
kirk your a dick now grow up and stop telling fairy tales keep that for your own kids!! thanks now crawl back up your crack and plug the crap that keeps falling from it
61% of people who think and study things seriously are atheist, what are surprise. If you want both sides of the issue, should we also teach that the Earth is flat? That snakes speak? That bread can rain from the sly? Yeah, let's teach that, that will make us free.
The bible promoting slavery, child rape, killing kids when they misbehave, racism is better, than atheism that relies on common sense?
BTW - something comes from nothing? same in bible - in the begining there was a word, and the god was the word and word was by the god.. or stuff like that. So where did god come from? who created him? who spoke the word before him if he was created by this word?
this is incredibly sad. kirk has one hit tv show in the 80s then his career goes nowhere. now he has to evangelize to get people to notice him. funny how the only major films he's starred in recently were shitty independent Christian movies. the really pathetic part is the fact that he actually believes in what he's preaching and puts legitimate effort into disproving evolution by saying crap like "Darwin was a racist!' or "Something came from Nothing!" (which is abiogenesis, not evolution)
so what i take away from this is that ...people who are higer educated,and free thinkers are less likely to beleive in superstions and fantasys...like religion and gods...well that just makes sense kirk.....so remembes invetigate reserch and most of all THINK
By the way Kirk Cameron: Kids can read the bible in school. Kids can pray in school and can pray in public. Also, the Ten Commandments are displayed outside of public courthouses all over the country. The only thing you mentioned that was that was true is that teachers cannot give people a bible because a school cannot endorse a religion. Check your facts.
Wow, really... I got nothing here. How dumb is this video? I scale it to a 9 at least on the "your insane" scale. People don't want christian religion because we don't want christian flawed morals. We want solid, livable, just rules to live our lives by. Don't rape. Don't beat up your kids. Don't avoid your taxes. Don't pee on your neighbor... Anyway guys please ignore this video unless you just want to compare it to logic...
Thank Evolution that I'm not Islamic, because then my holy book would order me to kill you Kirk Cameron. -.- how fucking stupid can you be. Go watch a tadpole transform into a frog and tell me that's not evolution.
It seems cool or "hip" to not believe in God these days. If you do, don't be swayed by these atheists. Stick to your guns and god bless Kirk Cameron!!
@rhydean693 haha you sound like a right-wing conservative right out of the 1950's "these kids today! They think they're so hip with their swing music and their motorcycles and their not-believing-in-god!"
By definition, atheism has been round as long as the belief in a deity has.
@kb24crazylaker The big bang has got nothing to do with "everything coming from nothing." That's what you creationists believe. And how can what Kirk be saying here be true? He knows nothing about evolution or the big bang.
Sorry Kirk; Darwin's research is 150 years old and science has moved on in that time. Many of Darwin's theories have been dropped by the wayside in favour of new evidence and knowledge. Just because faith in the unprovable remains as stagnated as ever doesn't mean science has remained stagnant. That said, natural selection and the need to adapt in order to survive are what drive evolution. Science doen't teach us that man evolved from apes, only that there is a common ancestory in our history.
Sorry Kirk; Darwin's research is 150 years old and science has moved on in that time. Many of Darwin's theories have been dropped by the wayside in favour of new evidence and knowledge. Just because faith in the unprovable remains as stagnated as ever doesn't mean science has remained stagnant. That said, natural selection and the need to adapt in order to survive are what drive evolution. Science doen't teach us that man evolved from apes, only that there is a common ancestory in our history.
@MrLovejoy91 What doesn't he know? Everything he said was absolutely true. There are no adequate transitional fossils in the fossil record. And even if you can probe yourself to get past the astronolocally improbable odds of life starting from non life you are still stuck trying to explain how the universe came from nothing. Philosophically and scientifically, the only logical explanation of anything existing at all is that an eternal God created it. all I
The God given American right to annihilate 9 million + Native Americans to have all those freedoms... while enslaving men and women from Africa to profit from, building war chests, building the land of the 'Reservation', not the 'free'... but you are correct, Mr. Cameron on 'Home of the Brave'... Native American Brave's, that is. Thank you for displaying behaviors that the Jesus I have read about would flatly reject.
So Kirk says that atheism is on the rise due to college professors? How come christians never cite any proof for these claims?
Most profs I know study in their field, read a lot, research, etc...completely different than drunken sex fiend college kids who barely go to class unless forced.
interesting how religious people always harp on about how there is no scientific evidence for evolution and how scientist are wrong and yadda yadda...then they turn around and say "creationism is supported by scientists!" If the scientists weren't credible for evolution, why are they credible for creationism?
Kirk, the sinful NIV Bible is also to blame-read all the twisted scripture in it-and the scripture that is left OUT entirely. Jesus's power and deity is absolutely challenged in the NIV-the NIV needs to be burned. Also beware of Campus Crusade for Christ-do your research. The enemy has infiltrated all evangelical organizations as well as the NIV Bible. Investigate everything before you endorse it that the name of Christ be not blemished.
I feel bad for Cmeron, I met him long ago when growning pains first went off the air.He was a nice kid.But I think when his career went down the tubes he needed a crutch to try to stablize himself(and got hooked into religion ) Poor Kirk is so brainwashed he cannot see how deluded and irrational his reasoning is. he has been fed so much B.S, from his religion it has hindered his critical reasoning skills.I wil pray to the spegetti monster for him
I've seen the country go from being the best nation in the world to owing china more money than we can pay back and I'm worried that the people of the nation rather go watch a video of someone sharing his belief but share their own opinion rather than going out there and helping to get this nation to be number 1 again. This gives me hope to keep moving on. Keep the word alive. Amen
"ve seen the country go from being the best nation in the world to owing china more money than we can pay back"
And you think this is somehow ties to American not believing in magical Jesus so much anymore? You present no rational argument or proof to this claim.
Ad hominem argumentation fallacy: It does not matter if Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other crazy person believed in evolution, it does not matter what kind of person Darwin was. Only thing that matters is the theory. If one is going to attack the theory one should not talk about irrelevant things.
I know Ray Comfort is num nuts and he believes in creationism. Should I say creationism is bad because Ray believes in it. Of course not, I would say creationism sux because the theory sux.
He talks about rights, funny i recall his faith killing children, pregent women, enslaving , mostly black people and torturing anyone who had an idea..., Galileo springs to mind.
Now we have opened our eyes and taken back our rights he starts crying well fuck you Cameron, noone has siad you can not pray or worship (anyone else notice how similer warship and worship are...) your god but dont force that shit on to people who CAN think.
What a pathetic representative for "Christianity". This baby-faced "dude" isn't fit to speak to intelligent adults. A 40 year old child with nothing "upstairs".
The Jesus Freaks have found their poster boy! Congratulations!
I love the comment, risking their life to speak out the way Kirk does! It is more the other way around. You dare question religion in the media, you are censored, you dare question a person with reverand or such title and you are censored. Relgion has chruches etc everywhere for people to worship their invisible god. Keep it out of the schools, it has NO proof and NO scientific knowledge. It explains nothing. Everytime science finds more the relgions find gaps and say god produced that.
completely agree, we need to teach the controversy, rather than being censored children should be allowed to decide for themselves.
like in maths classes, we shouldn't just be teaching children that A plus B = C, we should be teaching that A plus A = A aswell and letting them decide for themselves. we shouldn't just be teaching them in history classes that the nazi's lost the second world war, we should also be teaching them that aliens destroyed both sides and enslaved humanity,let them decide
I pray for him and Christians like him. Thank God for Christians who risk their life speaking out the way Kirk does. I love the verse in the book of Job 38
There are no laws barring either public prayer or students carrying or reading a personal Bible in schools. There are laws protecting creeps from loitering near schools enticing children with free stuff, because the public unilaterally agrees we should protect kids from pedophiles. Kirk is really just using fallacy-laden propaganda to lobby for the rights of his chomo friends. Hey, if you want to diddle some grade-schoolers, why not just become a Catholic priest?
Let me draw a comparison between what he does with Darwin and what white supremacists do to MLK Jr. Rather than attempt to argue with his work, he attacks Darwin on a personal level and assumes people are dumb enough to accept that since he's a bad guy, his work must be false. What asinine logic is that? And white supremacists discredit MLK's revolutionary work by making personal attacks about his womanizing and drinking. Personal flaws are an issue apart from educational/social efforts.
The first words out of his mouth are wrong. Kids can and should be allowed to pray in school, individually. They can also read their bible in school. Separation of church and state, dude. Separation of church and state. If christians could wrap their heads around that concept we might be able to make progress in this country.
"God-given" liberties? No such thing. Those liberties were fought for by people. Saying that they're given by a god is demeaning to the lives that have been taken for the greater good of democracy and freedom of speech.
Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk....and to say that I used to find you so cool and funny back in the good ole Growing Pains days......now you are just a sad, pathetic and ignorant little, little man, with a tiny, tiny brain.......DUMB FUCK!
Its called social evolution Kirk. People are getting smarter and wising up to the bullshit that the bible and all other "holy books" spew on a daily basis. Society isnt turning away from some supposed god, its becoming more informed. With any luck, someday all religion will be mostly eradicated so people can start focusing on real issues.
brainwash your own children all you want... keep that boogeyman gospel bullshit away from my school and my children... peace douche bag. i hope noone reads your books i hope they wipe their ass with your 50,000 books
Hitler was raised catholic and he referenced God in his speeches. Roots of racism are in Bible, Ham's curse to be exact. The scientists like Kopernikus believed in God, because they'd end up excecuted if they didn't.
Some day everyone will realize how finite they really are in this universe including me. No one has ever or will ever know exactly how the earth came to be. Everyone has faith in something.
Albert Einstein and Newton were pantheists, not Creationists. They viewed the world in its natural beauty as divine, but laughed at the concept of an omniscient deity that ruled the earth from the heavens. These men were scientists, not superstitious idolaters.
Darwin's so-called disdain for women would pale in comparison to the gross misogyny practiced by any of the three monotheistic traditions. Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitism did not develop from eugenics, but from the latent Lutheran and Catholic doctrines that had been deeply embedded in the German conscience for hundreds of years. Eugenics is only now synonymous with racism because of the Third Reich, but it had been a long established and laudable faculty in science prior to it.
Yessir Kirk, you can always trust those who claim to be infused with the spirit of God to act in the best interests of society. Take a cue from Him. He minds other people's business far less than you and your vituperative, fundamentalist ilk. You're lucky God's a recluse. If He weren't he'd be perpetually suing the lot of you who for wreaking relentless havoc on this planet and ignorantly, blithely, doing so in His name. If it please God, grant Christopher Hitchens a new lease on life.
hugosalarm 27 minutes ago
I'll give this guy credit. He has really found a way to make a great living! Great Acting Kirk! He is praying all the way to the bank - like most religious folk!
Bill463 1 hour ago
Sorry to keep commenting, but what right does Kirk Cameron have to spout the beliefs of the deceased? It would be one thing if he knew what he was talking about. Einstein was much closer to an agnostic, and refuted the Bible. Isaac Newton did many things in secret, and unbelievably was able to teach despite not being in the priesthood due to his genius. He WAS however, deeply into alchemy and the occult. Regardless, what does the beliefs of 15the century astronomers have to do with anything?
Huffstuff420 2 hours ago
And we still have people who's belief system mirrors the 19th century. We're still arguing birth control, and the role of women. Worldwide we still have witch hunts, and people getting stoned to death. Again, these are all brief examples of some thinking patterns, people are of course much more multifaceted than these facile parallels. These belief systems inevitably have boundless clashes with each other, and it's quite apparent in daily living. These times we live in are quite interesting.
Huffstuff420 2 hours ago
We don't all live in the same time period anymore. This is the first time in humanity that this has really happened. We have three centuries battling it out through individual beliefs. These are only brief examples. Present time of course - people who live in the now, the 21st century, have a symbiotic relationship with technology, are more open minded, (I'll argue that point later if need be) etc. 20th century- Luddites, people who think of the racist era as the "good old days", etc.
Huffstuff420 3 hours ago
Wow, I can hardly believe some of the below comments. Apparently and unfortunately, you all must not be Christrians. I feel sorry for you if you honestly believe their is no God. I guess you all also believe that our world is not coming to the end of existence too. I feel it is so close and that my friend, should scare you. If you do not believe that, read the book of Revalations and see if you cannot tie the coming of Christ to what is actually happening in the world we live today.
MrALBEEZE 6 hours ago
@MrALBEEZE The people of the middle ages said exactly the same. And they were closer to the "prophecies" than present times. It shall forever be, that religion breeds reassurance to the believers as a coping mechanism from the chaos of life. That's one of the better consequences of holding such avid beliefs. And it works for EVERY religion, even cults. If it didn't, people wouldn't believe such things. As a true Christian you should feel love, not pity for those you deem unsaved.
Huffstuff420 3 hours ago
Where do I start? He only sees two points of view: "Evolution" & "The Gospel". What about the rest of the world which is not Christian? Are they by default all incorrect in their belief systems? Does he not see the harm in having one religion be taught in public institutions? Don't we have freedom of religion? Doesn't freedom of religion make it illegal for Government to favor one and discriminate the others? How is separation of Church & State an attack on his Church?
valdesarthouse1 7 hours ago
Where can I get a copy? I ran out of toilet paper..
MrMortal824 10 hours ago
"brainwashing a generation into athiesm without even hearing the alternative (christianty)"
Oh, I think they've heard the alternative my friend.. and this is rather an ironic statement to make, it's almost like a parody.
Deuron3 12 hours ago
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Darwin knew nothing about genes or genetics.
STRUTTER777U 14 hours ago
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God bless Kirk Cameron.
He's done some great movies.
STRUTTER777U 14 hours ago
So I can write an Introduction to the Bible....
1ChillRebel 14 hours ago
Asshole!!!
1ChillRebel 14 hours ago
All he really did is waste a lot of paper because when people hand college kids things about god all they do is throw them away..I know from experience. Stop fooling yourself you toolbag and work on something proactive.
TheDeuces222 17 hours ago
What a fuckin tool
franklinajohnson 19 hours ago
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lol how the fuck do u link darwin to hitler when darwin died before hitler was even born?
Ethan3KatsPajamas 20 hours ago
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Ethan3KatsPajamas 20 hours ago
propoganda. kirk cameron = tool
jnez81 1 day ago
This was the closest match to my search for "Emmanuel Lewis takes on Bigfoot". Just as good.
Lazymaven 1 day ago
yep that what we need dr.'s that pray, sorry ma'am your hussband died I was gonna work on him but I decided to pray for hm instead !
William81Edge10 1 day ago
I can't wait until it comes out that this idiot was banging hookers and sniffing coke.
BigNutzish 1 day ago
@BigNutzish you mean like ted haggard?? lol
jnez81 1 day ago
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LOL! OMG there HAS to be inbreeding in his genetic pool somewhere!
violetkitten831 1 day ago
Where do I get my copy?
jschuc1 1 day ago
Um.. he says evolution is wrong because Hitler used the idea in a twisted way to justify mass murder?
It was 1 strand of hundreds or thousands of strands that made up Hitler's twisted personal philosophy - he also listened to classical music - so is Mozart "wrong"?
Its just blatant marketing technique of using fear and loathing associated with the Hitler persona. No intellectual credibility to this argument at all - Kirk is a professional actor - like Obama - plenty of style - no substance.
DocBrewster 1 day ago 2
wtf? this man is a moron. creationism is an idea akin to others such as "The world is Flat" and "the earth is the center of the universe" its a dated idea that has NO PLACE WHATSOVER in schools.
Owadatsumi 2 days ago
The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, not a moral compass. Even though Darwin is racist is not going to change the fact that evolution did occur. There is no proven connection between Darwin and Hitler, even though it is connected, Hitler was just using a scientific theory as a moral compass to excecute the Holocaust and that is also not going to change the fact that evolution did occur, occurring and continue to occur.
jacklamful 2 days ago
@jacklamful Should't everything be a moral issue?
cham8395 1 day ago
It's an amazing idea when your a poor student having 25 sheets off free emergency toilet paper is very handy!
MegaMysteriousme 2 days ago 2
@1danyol1 technically he was agnostic but he made it clear he didnt believe in a personal god.
ItsMeMunroeC 2 days ago
Well then wonderful!!
renatetio 2 days ago
What exactly is the other side of the argument? What will they teach in this creationist classroom? All i've heard from these creationist is ad hominem and strait out lies. Not one solid argument can be made. I challenge anyone to present a clear and concise argument that is pro creationism.
TheWillIamLee87 2 days ago
What if evolution....was God's idea?
Oh shit, bet you never thought about that.
JoexLangevin 2 days ago 2
Einstein was Atheist - everyone knows that.
ItsMeMunroeC 2 days ago
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1danyol1 2 days ago
@ItsMeMunroeC Einstein was a theist. Not atheist. A space makes a huge difference.
1danyol1 2 days ago
What an idiot. A balanced view of creationism!!!??? Evolution is not an opinion, it's SCIENTIFIC FACT. Anyway, I always say WWBD... what would Boner do? Who cares what Mike Seaver thinks?
JBloomrosen 3 days ago
@JBloomrosen You're a goofball, moron, brainwashed idiot! Hahahahaha!!!
renatetio 2 days ago
Yes, I'm an idiot! You're so right! And the world WAS created in six days! And it's only a few thousand years old, and dinosaurs didn't exist and woman WAS created out of a man's rib!! I see the light.. praise Jesus and hallelujah! You're thorough logical and astute explanation has changed my mind and cleansed my bedeviled soul... Oh thank you... thou art an enlightened soul with an amazing power of elucidation and education. Ill see you in church on sunday... for some new brainwashing.
JBloomrosen 2 days ago
you fuckin moron i think i need to punch in your groin and let the religious fucks know if you feel pain
sukavuka 3 days ago
I heard that Adolf Hitler had an undeniable connection to breathing...maybe Kirk should give that up too...
slybuster 3 days ago
man, I love the lord, but what is this moron actor going on about? hes one of the people who drive people away from Christ instead of bringing them into the fold... God is Love not some retarded babble by a washed up actor
BamaMattElijah 3 days ago in playlist kirk cameron takes on charles darwin 2
YAYMEN! 681 dislikes and tons of people talkin trash yet Kirk and Roy are STILL taking a stand for God! that right there is amazing!
billfinlen 3 days ago
@billfinlen These dislikes come from weak minds who can't think for themselves.
renatetio 2 days ago
@renatetio So the people who go by peer reviewed evidence are weak minded, but those who follow bronze age doctrine without question think for themselves? Makes sense.
JamesHLanier 2 days ago
@JamesHLanier The same people who are feeding us the info in these so called peer reviewed journals are substituents of the people who are ruining the world. Believe what you want. Maybe it makes you feel smart to read but you're being mislead. Evolution in the context that they are teaching is a complete hoax. Even Darwin at the end of his life questioned his theory. He had no idea about the structure and complexity of DNA.
renatetio 2 days ago
@renatetio Evolutionary biologists have already dismissed Darwin's theories of DNA. However, this does not invalidate his theory of evolution and natural selection.
JamesHLanier 2 days ago
Isn't it possible that God created the big bang? No? Well then Kirk, where did space come from? Are there no other life forms out there other than us here on Earth? Did God create aliens? Also, what fossils are you expecting to find? They have fossils from apes&fossils of early man. Evolution happens when an animal has offspring with a mutation, if the mutation is an improvement, it gets passed on. Of course there are no "in between" fossils. Dos anyone know what Kirk thinks of dinosaurs?
Ocrisia83 5 days ago 2
@Ocrisia83 Why would there not be evidence of the changing of a species. According to the Darwin's chart it depicts a in between period for the evolution of man. Again if we evolved and are better then prior form why would thee other still exist? Take for instance the Big Bang Theory. The word theory (which I am sure you know this I do not say to belittle in any sense.) does not mean fact. So how is that more truth bound then creation that is stated in the bible?
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 I didn't say there is no evidence of a species changing, just that animals don't run around half evolved.Anyway,out of billions of dinosaurs, the %of fossils we've axctually found is miniscule.So not finding 1of those missing links doesn't prove they don't exist.Please understand, I believe in God.But there IS proof of evolution.Believing in God is faith.Evolution is fact,as proven by the animals who are evolving right in front of us,like the elephants w no tusks.
Ocrisia83 5 days ago
@Ocrisia83 I do agree with the physical adaptation of people and animals. When it comes to many different habitats, but that man comes from apes. No sir If you believe you must believe in the bible as well. Not just specific parts. Science to me is great as suplimental knowledge to what is already done. I do reject contrary things to what I believe as does all who believe in anything. Who said there were billions of dinosaur species? An expert. All theory until proven so.
deacon21206 4 days ago
@deacon21206 and I really appreciate that you're not ranting or calling names, because I hate fighting with people. We can have differing viewpoints without hatig each other.Christians &athiests fight all the time and I hate it. I think everyone should be able to believe what they want without others trying to change their way of thinking. Unless the other person WANTS to talk about it, and asks ?s, like here. But too often ppl push beliefs onto others when it's unwelcome.
Ocrisia83 2 days ago
@Ocrisia83 I don't mean to debate, but I do like to hear people speak about things.
So please don't take it as me attacking or anything like that. Just like to hear the knowledge of others. When no one is being a jerk or forceful.
deacon21206 4 days ago
@deacon21206 But that's the thing, there IS evidence of the changing of a species. I gave some in one of my lower comments, about farming cultures. Elephants are being born with no tusks. The thing is, every animal or being we see, is a transitional animal. Humans used to be shorter, and had more hair. In a few thousand years, who knows what we'll look like. There are no "transitional fossils" only if you think of transititional as for example, an elephant with half a tusk.
Ocrisia83 2 days ago
@deacon21206 eveolution doesn't work that way. we're transitional. everything we see is evolving, every offspring created is evolving, but the bchanges are so small we don't notice. That's why we can look at something from thousands of years ago and compare it to something now, and say wow it's so diferent, but if we had watched that animal every day and seen the changes as they happened, it would look like nothing was changing day to day. There's a kind of lizard which recently
Ocrisia83 2 days ago
@Ocrisia83 started carrying it's eggs to term,actually having a live birth rather than laying eggs,because when they were laying eggs too often they'd be eaten.So the lizard evolved.You're right when you say these are all theories,but there is no denying that species do chage.The Big Bang Theory is something else entirely, that iS theory, and there is no proof of that, other than math.Einstein's theory of relativity has recently been proven wrong.But they at least try2 understand it.
Ocrisia83 2 days ago
& What I don't understand about ppl who only believe in the bible is that they don't try to learn more about where we came from.It's like they take it at it's word,&refuse to hear any other theories.I know evolution disprovesGod as is written in the bible,but is doesn't disprove everything about Him.One more thing I don't understand-we can literally see into the past millions of yrs by looking thru a telescope.When ppl say we're only 6k yrs old, do they mean the earth, oreverything?
Ocrisia83 2 days ago
so..fucking..painfully.....stupid
shortdrummer991 6 days ago
So, in other words, smart people don't believe in a bunch of stories written two thousand years ago? That's a shock.
ItsDatCajunStuff 6 days ago
@ItsDatCajunStuff Who determines smart? There are people that are of great intelligence that believe an explosion from nothing created everything. Doesn't sound so far feteched from "dumb people" believing that someone created something out of nothing.
deacon21206 5 days ago
Wow the more than half the people teaching us are all atheists!!
pivo187 1 week ago
Could it be that atheism is growing because it frees people to use their minds? Isn't the statistic about our nations most intelligent individuals being atheists more revealing of the fact that the more you learn, the less likely you are to fall for a lie? Evolution is a fact, and you deserved to lose that debate. You lied, and you got what was coming to you.
aharmlesspie 1 week ago
@aharmlesspie LOL this comment made me laugh at the fact that it proved not one thing out each word that was used. Seriously to be atheist takes the same way of thinking it takes to be a christian. Which is the belief in the hope that you are right for what you believe in. Intelligence has nothing to do with what is right or wrong.
deacon21206 6 days ago
@deacon21206 Being an theist is nothing like being a christian. First of all ,we aren't trying to command people to live a certain way. Second of all, we wait for proof before we recognize anything as being true. We don't have to hope we are right, we have to experiment and observe; sometimes we are right, but when we are wrong, we accept it and move on. We're all human, but the religious among us have the hardest time saying that they have made a mistake. Admit you are wrong, grow the hell up.
aharmlesspie 6 days ago
@aharmlesspie Obviosuly you didn't even read what I said and prejudge me and was completely wrong. I also see that your statement about getting facts first may not always be true either the way you crammed past experiences at me. I said the thought process behind the beliefs of either. Just because you don't believe makes me wrong. That is a bad way of forcing your theories on me.
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Were you under the impression that I was singling you out? If you are a part of religion, that's your thing. It doesn't change the fact that overall, religion is strongly resistant to change. You assumed that it takes the same attitude to be an atheist as to be religious, and that couldn't be further from the truth. It takes no faith to be an atheist. I don't believe in things for which there can never be proof. I'll admit though, it takes balls to defend an idiot like Cameron.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@aharmlesspie Hopefully you will read my post in full next time before writing me off as crazy and aggressive. Forcing my faith on people. I don't believe it is right of fair to push any belief on anybody. We all have been given a choice to choose what we want to believe in. You chose what is true to you and I chose what works for me. We will see in the end who was right. Have a good day.
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 I read your reply and understood what you said quite well. I don't attempt to push belief on anyone. I try to present evidence for my claims, and then they can decide whether or not to recognize the reality of what is being presented. I didn't chose anything because it was "true to me", I simply recognize it as true because the evidence is there. If "what works for you" is a system of belief without evidence, any evidence one presents will do nothing to enlighten you.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Last, but certainly not least, things that are provably true go on being true whether you believe them or not. You do not chose to believe or disbelieve in evolution, you chose to accept or reject reality. Reality is completely unfazed by what you believe. You can truly believe that if you really really want to you can levitate, but gravity will always be there to remind you of the difference between belief and testable fact.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@aharmlesspie LOL again i said thought process ot attitude. And everyone uses faith in life. Perfect example. If you have a work schedule that says you must be to work march 6, 2012. Then it takes faith to think you will be there. Why because you have no evidence in the fact you or your job will be there that day. Why because there isn't any evidence that proves you will wake up tomorrow. Also you believe things that don't have true evidence. Example the theory of your existence.
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 You are now confusing the idea of a scientific theory, and a colloquial theory. Since I have been to work several times before(experiment), and it has been there every time I have gone(observation), I have much support for my theory of workplace existence. Also, I can go there and see whether or not it is still there, as in, I can prove or disprove its existence. God's existence is not subject to this possibility, and my lack of belief continues.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@aharmlesspie I enjoy this conversation it is enlightening in certain areas. Also there isn't evidence for everything so youo don't believe what there isn't evidence for. Like a true beginning to how the universe began. LOL to believe in a theory or any theory for that matter. Theories don't equal true. You seem to be intelligent. So I don't understand how you can not see the flaws in the theories of such smart people that come up with these theories.
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 I can see flaws in intelligent arguments and theories of all kinds. BUT, when the body of evidence for a given theory is built up so much, as in the case for evolution, it ceases to be a theory in the colloquial sense, and becomes a fact. You are correct, I withhold judgement until evidence supports a given theory. I think it is more a folly to trust those who have accepted a given truth that goes against the evidence.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@aharmlesspie For the record I respect science when it doesn't try to disprove the existence of God. Every time you attempt to say he isn't real the crazier the theories. Example being the big bang theory or the belief in evolution with any real proof that it existed. No archeological proof of fossils or hybrid fossils of the evolution or period between. Also that we still have not evolved in thousands of years and why a species that has evolved stopped evolving into humans. Facts
deacon21206 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Please for the love of your deity go to any respectable natural science museum. The truth is that every fossil, that isn't the end of the line, is a transitional fossil. You and I are transitional forms. Please read about evolution and come back with a real understanding of it before saying things like this. Fossilization is an exceptionally rare event. DNA tells the real story, and it shows the unmistakable connection between every living thing that has ever lived on this planet.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Also, I am not an evolutionary biologist, yet, but evolution typically happens over incredibly large timescales. I can only guess, and perhaps there is someone more qualified than me to say, but humans may be evolving slower because rather than changing to fit our environment, we change our environment to fit us. I think our civilization is evolving technologically in lieu of our natural evolution. Like I said, there are probably people who could give you a more accurate answer.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Lastly, I don't want any of this to sound arrogant or all knowing. Please understand that I am desperately pleading with you to look these things up and verify what I say. I can't get desperation very easily into my posts here, but I feel hopeless on a daily basis because so many people tend to just believe what they read or see on the internet/television and forget the importance of research and study.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
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@deacon21206 Lastly, I don't want any of this to sound arrogant or all knowing. Please understand that I am desperately pleading with you to look these things up and verify what I say. I can't get desperation very easily into my posts here, but I feel hopeless on a daily basis because so many people tend to just believe what they read or see on the internet/television and forget the importance of research and study.
aharmlesspie 5 days ago
@deacon21206 Not facts. First of all I don't know how things like the big bang and evolution disprove God. They may disprove the idea that the earth was created in 7 days, but they don't disprove God. Second, we have NOT stopped evolving, just because you can't see it doesn't mean nothing is happening in our DNA. Eskimos have developed resistance to cold. Among primitive farming tribes, big eaters of tubers, which contain little folic acid,selection has shaped the genes involved in
Ocrisia83 5 days ago
@deacon21206 synthesizing folic acid in the body. If you want evolution you can see, look at doorways in houses from 200 years ago and how much smaller they were. People were shorter. We are constantly evolving, it's just not always obvious from the outside. Evolution mostly takes place over long periods of time. 1,000 yrs seems long to us, but in the scheme of the universe its less than a blink of an eye. If anything, I think science and evolution prove intelligent design.
Ocrisia83 5 days ago
@Ocrisia83 Okay what is your stance because you are all over the place I don't know you are on the side that God exist or doesn't just a bunch of terminologies. At first sight. I see you also see you did not mention or even comment on the statement I made about evolution. LOL if we evolved from ape why are there still apes. They would no longer serve a purpose that only some of them evolved, but the rest will not. Do things adapt to their surroundings. Yes, but what is your stance?
deacon21206 5 days ago
"nothing created everything"
oh the irony....
Johnny3144 1 week ago
kirk your a dick now grow up and stop telling fairy tales keep that for your own kids!! thanks now crawl back up your crack and plug the crap that keeps falling from it
Darwinstrue 1 week ago
61% of people who think and study things seriously are atheist, what are surprise. If you want both sides of the issue, should we also teach that the Earth is flat? That snakes speak? That bread can rain from the sly? Yeah, let's teach that, that will make us free.
estuchedepeluche 1 week ago
There are 2 possibilities:
1. Kirk Cameron actually believes in what he is saying and is "crusading" for christianity.
2. He is somehow making money (like Kent Hovind was) by swindling the weak minded.
My bet is on 2, because Hovind knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and made out like a bandit... until he was busted for tax fraud.
MatthewRider1 1 week ago
"this is america home of the free, the brave" and the idiots who want to keep the rest of their country in the dark ages
nikoro1234 1 week ago
The bible promoting slavery, child rape, killing kids when they misbehave, racism is better, than atheism that relies on common sense?
BTW - something comes from nothing? same in bible - in the begining there was a word, and the god was the word and word was by the god.. or stuff like that. So where did god come from? who created him? who spoke the word before him if he was created by this word?
slh86 1 week ago
You go Kirk ! Let me know when we start burning witches again .. hmmm , how long will the dislikes stay at 666 ?
krazymummy 1 week ago
Lol, this shit is good.... "sinful heart"?? the "correct view" of darwins book?...
Will this idiot ever shut up?
ComicCreations 1 week ago
Non of what you listed are god given rights, sir.
FactualCommentor 1 week ago
this is incredibly sad. kirk has one hit tv show in the 80s then his career goes nowhere. now he has to evangelize to get people to notice him. funny how the only major films he's starred in recently were shitty independent Christian movies. the really pathetic part is the fact that he actually believes in what he's preaching and puts legitimate effort into disproving evolution by saying crap like "Darwin was a racist!' or "Something came from Nothing!" (which is abiogenesis, not evolution)
ThePhantom135 1 week ago
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ThePhantom135 1 week ago
is ray comfort the banana man? or is that a different ray?
tigerwa 1 week ago
Wait wait wait.
A Bible-slave just accused Darwin of being racist and misogynistic?
Hypocrisy at it's best.
MistressElf 1 week ago
so what i take away from this is that ...people who are higer educated,and free thinkers are less likely to beleive in superstions and fantasys...like religion and gods...well that just makes sense kirk.....so remembes invetigate reserch and most of all THINK
lowdown476 1 week ago
By the way Kirk Cameron: Kids can read the bible in school. Kids can pray in school and can pray in public. Also, the Ten Commandments are displayed outside of public courthouses all over the country. The only thing you mentioned that was that was true is that teachers cannot give people a bible because a school cannot endorse a religion. Check your facts.
keez1994 1 week ago
Wow, really... I got nothing here. How dumb is this video? I scale it to a 9 at least on the "your insane" scale. People don't want christian religion because we don't want christian flawed morals. We want solid, livable, just rules to live our lives by. Don't rape. Don't beat up your kids. Don't avoid your taxes. Don't pee on your neighbor... Anyway guys please ignore this video unless you just want to compare it to logic...
josephdtibbs 1 week ago
Why does this guy think einstein was an athiest its just weird and wrong. you can prove hes wrong
I3uzzKillinton 1 week ago
Thank Evolution that I'm not Islamic, because then my holy book would order me to kill you Kirk Cameron. -.- how fucking stupid can you be. Go watch a tadpole transform into a frog and tell me that's not evolution.
AnthonyKiid0187 2 weeks ago 2
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@GodlikeCreations Even the Catholic church accepts evolution, with the addition that it was a process designed and guided by God.
MrSitemaster2 2 weeks ago
Kirky boy obviously knows next to nothing about the mechanics of evolutionary theory.
He should stick to talking about things he is qualified to discuss, like, like - shit, like WHAT?
turningofthetide1000 2 weeks ago
do you know about Germany in the 1930s? You had better learn how to read or haven't you learned yet??
theguy7771 2 weeks ago
This video is like watching nazi-propaganda.
fudgepuppy91 2 weeks ago
It seems cool or "hip" to not believe in God these days. If you do, don't be swayed by these atheists. Stick to your guns and god bless Kirk Cameron!!
rhydean693 2 weeks ago
@rhydean693 haha you sound like a right-wing conservative right out of the 1950's "these kids today! They think they're so hip with their swing music and their motorcycles and their not-believing-in-god!"
By definition, atheism has been round as long as the belief in a deity has.
imrepohl 2 weeks ago
who is this moron
MegaBarneyboy1 2 weeks ago
@kb24crazylaker The big bang has got nothing to do with "everything coming from nothing." That's what you creationists believe. And how can what Kirk be saying here be true? He knows nothing about evolution or the big bang.
Robbie451000 2 weeks ago
HAHAHAHAHAH. Kirk Cameron is hilarious. I've never seen anyone do deadpan comedy like this. Fantastic!
backtoiron 2 weeks ago
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Sorry Kirk; Darwin's research is 150 years old and science has moved on in that time. Many of Darwin's theories have been dropped by the wayside in favour of new evidence and knowledge. Just because faith in the unprovable remains as stagnated as ever doesn't mean science has remained stagnant. That said, natural selection and the need to adapt in order to survive are what drive evolution. Science doen't teach us that man evolved from apes, only that there is a common ancestory in our history.
drummer4theperish 2 weeks ago
Sorry Kirk; Darwin's research is 150 years old and science has moved on in that time. Many of Darwin's theories have been dropped by the wayside in favour of new evidence and knowledge. Just because faith in the unprovable remains as stagnated as ever doesn't mean science has remained stagnant. That said, natural selection and the need to adapt in order to survive are what drive evolution. Science doen't teach us that man evolved from apes, only that there is a common ancestory in our history.
drummer4theperish 2 weeks ago
got up to the big bang bullshit. almost threw my laptop.
kefkapalazzo1 2 weeks ago
@mandrillx Dumb comment
kb24crazylaker 2 weeks ago
@MrLovejoy91 What doesn't he know? Everything he said was absolutely true. There are no adequate transitional fossils in the fossil record. And even if you can probe yourself to get past the astronolocally improbable odds of life starting from non life you are still stuck trying to explain how the universe came from nothing. Philosophically and scientifically, the only logical explanation of anything existing at all is that an eternal God created it. all I
kb24crazylaker 2 weeks ago 3
What an idiot..... *Bang*
TheLegendofCera 2 weeks ago
The God given American right to annihilate 9 million + Native Americans to have all those freedoms... while enslaving men and women from Africa to profit from, building war chests, building the land of the 'Reservation', not the 'free'... but you are correct, Mr. Cameron on 'Home of the Brave'... Native American Brave's, that is. Thank you for displaying behaviors that the Jesus I have read about would flatly reject.
Arcturus2112 3 weeks ago
he is fucking nuts
kathleenvh 3 weeks ago
So Kirk says that atheism is on the rise due to college professors? How come christians never cite any proof for these claims?
Most profs I know study in their field, read a lot, research, etc...completely different than drunken sex fiend college kids who barely go to class unless forced.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
interesting how religious people always harp on about how there is no scientific evidence for evolution and how scientist are wrong and yadda yadda...then they turn around and say "creationism is supported by scientists!" If the scientists weren't credible for evolution, why are they credible for creationism?
Kingding6 3 weeks ago
Kirk, the sinful NIV Bible is also to blame-read all the twisted scripture in it-and the scripture that is left OUT entirely. Jesus's power and deity is absolutely challenged in the NIV-the NIV needs to be burned. Also beware of Campus Crusade for Christ-do your research. The enemy has infiltrated all evangelical organizations as well as the NIV Bible. Investigate everything before you endorse it that the name of Christ be not blemished.
victoriabenn 3 weeks ago
I feel bad for Cmeron, I met him long ago when growning pains first went off the air.He was a nice kid.But I think when his career went down the tubes he needed a crutch to try to stablize himself(and got hooked into religion ) Poor Kirk is so brainwashed he cannot see how deluded and irrational his reasoning is. he has been fed so much B.S, from his religion it has hindered his critical reasoning skills.I wil pray to the spegetti monster for him
mandrillx 3 weeks ago
Kirk, you are so full of shit.
bezaad 3 weeks ago
I've seen the country go from being the best nation in the world to owing china more money than we can pay back and I'm worried that the people of the nation rather go watch a video of someone sharing his belief but share their own opinion rather than going out there and helping to get this nation to be number 1 again. This gives me hope to keep moving on. Keep the word alive. Amen
crespok200 3 weeks ago
@crespok200
"ve seen the country go from being the best nation in the world to owing china more money than we can pay back"
And you think this is somehow ties to American not believing in magical Jesus so much anymore? You present no rational argument or proof to this claim.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
Kirk should eat Ray Comfort's intelligently designed banana!
Electronite1337 3 weeks ago
Ad hominem argumentation fallacy: It does not matter if Hitler, Stalin, Mao or any other crazy person believed in evolution, it does not matter what kind of person Darwin was. Only thing that matters is the theory. If one is going to attack the theory one should not talk about irrelevant things.
I know Ray Comfort is num nuts and he believes in creationism. Should I say creationism is bad because Ray believes in it. Of course not, I would say creationism sux because the theory sux.
Electronite1337 3 weeks ago
He talks about rights, funny i recall his faith killing children, pregent women, enslaving , mostly black people and torturing anyone who had an idea..., Galileo springs to mind.
Now we have opened our eyes and taken back our rights he starts crying well fuck you Cameron, noone has siad you can not pray or worship (anyone else notice how similer warship and worship are...) your god but dont force that shit on to people who CAN think.
ubernagash 3 weeks ago
can figure out why he went no where after Growing Pains
donovanjd3 3 weeks ago
7 people are turning in their graves
jextacy91 3 weeks ago
I clicked the "like" because this made me lmao.
ThePhantom135 3 weeks ago
What a pathetic representative for "Christianity". This baby-faced "dude" isn't fit to speak to intelligent adults. A 40 year old child with nothing "upstairs".
The Jesus Freaks have found their poster boy! Congratulations!
SynchroTotal 3 weeks ago
JEREMY LIN! TAKE EVERYBODY TO "HARVARD LIN SCHOOL"! (ESPECIALLY DEREK FISHER)
breenhill 3 weeks ago
This guy is dumber than dirt.
RightWingHunter666 3 weeks ago
I love the comment, risking their life to speak out the way Kirk does! It is more the other way around. You dare question religion in the media, you are censored, you dare question a person with reverand or such title and you are censored. Relgion has chruches etc everywhere for people to worship their invisible god. Keep it out of the schools, it has NO proof and NO scientific knowledge. It explains nothing. Everytime science finds more the relgions find gaps and say god produced that.
elsbymike 3 weeks ago
completely agree, we need to teach the controversy, rather than being censored children should be allowed to decide for themselves.
like in maths classes, we shouldn't just be teaching children that A plus B = C, we should be teaching that A plus A = A aswell and letting them decide for themselves. we shouldn't just be teaching them in history classes that the nazi's lost the second world war, we should also be teaching them that aliens destroyed both sides and enslaved humanity,let them decide
ourorboros2 3 weeks ago 4
I pray for him and Christians like him. Thank God for Christians who risk their life speaking out the way Kirk does. I love the verse in the book of Job 38
isabelle2436 3 weeks ago 2
AHH! My IQ! Noooooo!
This is painfully stupid. But it's good to hear that atheism has doubled from the ages of 19-25, I myself being a proud member of that statistic.
iluvbasketball239 3 weeks ago
Kirks just pissed that Leonardo De'Caprio totally pwns him now. Go crawl in a ditch Cameron.
decam88 3 weeks ago
There are no laws barring either public prayer or students carrying or reading a personal Bible in schools. There are laws protecting creeps from loitering near schools enticing children with free stuff, because the public unilaterally agrees we should protect kids from pedophiles. Kirk is really just using fallacy-laden propaganda to lobby for the rights of his chomo friends. Hey, if you want to diddle some grade-schoolers, why not just become a Catholic priest?
Soulvigilante 3 weeks ago
this scumbag is lying through his teeth, i suppose you have to though if you want the bible to stand up
tdaddy8581 3 weeks ago
wtf! who in the right mind would want to be a free thinker?!!
Chrominance87 4 weeks ago
The screen cap for this video is unfortunate and somewhat ironic as it makes him look like a monkey.
Micktrex 1 month ago
I wish I had 200 arms because a double face palm just doesn't cut it.
ThatAnnoyingGuyFrom 1 month ago
@ThatAnnoyingGuyFrom If these guys keep going, evolution might just grant us that ;)
LoverofLiszt 3 weeks ago 2
Let me draw a comparison between what he does with Darwin and what white supremacists do to MLK Jr. Rather than attempt to argue with his work, he attacks Darwin on a personal level and assumes people are dumb enough to accept that since he's a bad guy, his work must be false. What asinine logic is that? And white supremacists discredit MLK's revolutionary work by making personal attacks about his womanizing and drinking. Personal flaws are an issue apart from educational/social efforts.
chalino68 1 month ago
The first words out of his mouth are wrong. Kids can and should be allowed to pray in school, individually. They can also read their bible in school. Separation of church and state, dude. Separation of church and state. If christians could wrap their heads around that concept we might be able to make progress in this country.
chalino68 1 month ago
Every thing he said was false. I guess Kirks alternative is to go from Atheist to fucking liar.
veganslayer1 1 month ago
And how did this work out? Atheism is still on the rise. In fact country's like England and Sweden over 50% of the population are athiest.
RipMcHuge 1 month ago
"God-given" liberties? No such thing. Those liberties were fought for by people. Saying that they're given by a god is demeaning to the lives that have been taken for the greater good of democracy and freedom of speech.
imrepohl 1 month ago
@imrepohl they were defended by the people, but who originally gave them to the people ?
CrackerSmaker 1 month ago
@CrackerSmaker Surprisingly, people have not always had freedom. Defending something relies on you having it in the first place.
imrepohl 4 weeks ago
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Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk....and to say that I used to find you so cool and funny back in the good ole Growing Pains days......now you are just a sad, pathetic and ignorant little, little man, with a tiny, tiny brain.......DUMB FUCK!
brbr28 1 month ago
The tooth fairy is more believable than evolution.
hlnl56 1 month ago
@hlnl56 how so?
theblind1s 1 month ago
@theblind1s Very simple. It just says that both are bogus. However, on the argumentative side, a tooth fairy hasn't "evolved" from anything.
hlnl56 1 month ago
@hlnl56 what and what are bogus?
theblind1s 1 month ago
Oh btw, nice job on sitting on a backwards chair to look "cool" and "hip"...jackass
kanimo24 1 month ago
Its called social evolution Kirk. People are getting smarter and wising up to the bullshit that the bible and all other "holy books" spew on a daily basis. Society isnt turning away from some supposed god, its becoming more informed. With any luck, someday all religion will be mostly eradicated so people can start focusing on real issues.
kanimo24 1 month ago 3
@ elibeth121's - I'll leave you with with your world of absolutes
GeorgeMoonie 1 month ago
brainwash your own children all you want... keep that boogeyman gospel bullshit away from my school and my children... peace douche bag. i hope noone reads your books i hope they wipe their ass with your 50,000 books
superlou2012 1 month ago
theres a booger on the dislike bar
superlou2012 1 month ago
Hitler was raised catholic and he referenced God in his speeches. Roots of racism are in Bible, Ham's curse to be exact. The scientists like Kopernikus believed in God, because they'd end up excecuted if they didn't.
Neshuah1 1 month ago
Some day everyone will realize how finite they really are in this universe including me. No one has ever or will ever know exactly how the earth came to be. Everyone has faith in something.
curtsfarm 1 month ago
Albert Einstein and Newton were pantheists, not Creationists. They viewed the world in its natural beauty as divine, but laughed at the concept of an omniscient deity that ruled the earth from the heavens. These men were scientists, not superstitious idolaters.
fitzy098 1 month ago
Darwin's so-called disdain for women would pale in comparison to the gross misogyny practiced by any of the three monotheistic traditions. Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitism did not develop from eugenics, but from the latent Lutheran and Catholic doctrines that had been deeply embedded in the German conscience for hundreds of years. Eugenics is only now synonymous with racism because of the Third Reich, but it had been a long established and laudable faculty in science prior to it.
fitzy098 1 month ago