It's obvious that this "debate" was set up to have the evolutionist loose. I'm disgusted with watching this program. For "Gods" sake, it was held in a church!
Yes but it means you can discount the god theory. If a theory works without an element then do not introduce the extra element that is not needed. Occams Razor. Do not introduce unneeded extra things. If morals exist and work without god then they cannot be used to prove god.
i didnt use it to prove him...theres other things but nothing i ever say can convince you...for me it took some time alone and a long look into the stars...i know it sounds corny but it was unbelievable in that moment and still is for me now.
Yea there are many like you. Isolation with ones thoughts can result in many spiritual experiences. Alas most people cant seperate the numinous from the divine and since religion is the only game in town discussing such experiences people usually interpret them in that context
If you look out a window looking specifically for god and you have a spiritual experience you are likely to interpret that experience in the context for which you were looking for it. This is unfortunate but true
this i dont agree with at all. I wasnt looking for anything acpet for a metor shower that i guess never came...my thoughts were at that moment just thinking about how vast the universe is...now i know this is a fairly used question but seriously...how did NOTHING explode. that makes no sense
Not conciously but we all look for something. Every day whether in the front or back of our minds we look for meaning and reasons and "whys". You might not have been looking up thinking "Im seeking god" but to claim you were looking up without seeking anything, at SOME level, is probably not a wholly accurate statement
We dont know "nothing" exploded. Maybe something eternal exploded. Or maybe something and nothing are words without meaning in a realm outside this universe. We just dunno
and this is where all these type of srguments have a hard time going further because neither one of us can say definitly with proof to eachother that either one of our ideas are true. but you sound like a very brilliant guy and i appreciate that
I try. For every person on youtube who says that about me there are many others who would say the complete opposite :)
I think if people did realise that we should only have conversations based on what they could prove the world would be a better place. I think the reasons atheists and theists fight is that theists will commonly admonish people to act in ways based purely on something we cant prove. Thats when the fight starts.
Still common discourse is possible and we do strive toward it
Kent Hovind just shot himself in the foot with his answer.
Stitchman3875 1 year ago
It's obvious that this "debate" was set up to have the evolutionist loose. I'm disgusted with watching this program. For "Gods" sake, it was held in a church!
wabrown29 1 year ago
evolutionist is used to show a person who believes in the evolution theory. Its not a religion but it is a large group of people.
Dtrainx33 3 years ago
They keep saying "evolutionist" there is no such thing. Evolution is a thing not a belief for people to follow.
Just because you think that people need religion to be moral, that does not mean god exists.
dinkypoopstick 3 years ago
That dosnt mean God doesnt exist
Dtrainx33 3 years ago
Yes but it means you can discount the god theory. If a theory works without an element then do not introduce the extra element that is not needed. Occams Razor. Do not introduce unneeded extra things. If morals exist and work without god then they cannot be used to prove god.
irishmauddib 3 years ago
i didnt use it to prove him...theres other things but nothing i ever say can convince you...for me it took some time alone and a long look into the stars...i know it sounds corny but it was unbelievable in that moment and still is for me now.
Dtrainx33 3 years ago
Yea there are many like you. Isolation with ones thoughts can result in many spiritual experiences. Alas most people cant seperate the numinous from the divine and since religion is the only game in town discussing such experiences people usually interpret them in that context
If you look out a window looking specifically for god and you have a spiritual experience you are likely to interpret that experience in the context for which you were looking for it. This is unfortunate but true
irishmauddib 3 years ago
this i dont agree with at all. I wasnt looking for anything acpet for a metor shower that i guess never came...my thoughts were at that moment just thinking about how vast the universe is...now i know this is a fairly used question but seriously...how did NOTHING explode. that makes no sense
Dtrainx33 3 years ago
Not conciously but we all look for something. Every day whether in the front or back of our minds we look for meaning and reasons and "whys". You might not have been looking up thinking "Im seeking god" but to claim you were looking up without seeking anything, at SOME level, is probably not a wholly accurate statement
We dont know "nothing" exploded. Maybe something eternal exploded. Or maybe something and nothing are words without meaning in a realm outside this universe. We just dunno
irishmauddib 3 years ago
and this is where all these type of srguments have a hard time going further because neither one of us can say definitly with proof to eachother that either one of our ideas are true. but you sound like a very brilliant guy and i appreciate that
Dtrainx33 3 years ago
I try. For every person on youtube who says that about me there are many others who would say the complete opposite :)
I think if people did realise that we should only have conversations based on what they could prove the world would be a better place. I think the reasons atheists and theists fight is that theists will commonly admonish people to act in ways based purely on something we cant prove. Thats when the fight starts.
Still common discourse is possible and we do strive toward it
irishmauddib 3 years ago