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  • @kribiboy yeah, except the last two seasons went off in the direction of crazyville and it didn't look like it was going to be redeemable. Much as I loved the show, the overarching storylines SUCKED after season three. Hell, the overarching storyline of season three wasn't that great either. Much akin to Buffy season...anything above 3. Still love the shows, of course, and still watched, but...they went downhill.

  • Angel is still one of the best series... seriously! I still feel sorry they had to stop at the 5th season :( I loved Spike... and of course Lindsey. :))

  • "Agents of Evil that make great business out of peoples despair"... he must have meant the arseholes at FOX that canceled good telly progs and then tried to force feed you mushy teen slop.

  • Gotta say I miss this show - yeah sure I got it on dvd and it is on netflix - but no other show has provided me with more WTF moments.

  • Angel was way better than Buffy, even James Marsters (Spike) multiple times said he had a way funner and better time on Angel than on Buffy, especially since it was a Man's show, now TV is a disgrace (except for shows like Supernatural, Human Target, House, Leverage)

  • @2Good2BeTrue45 It's a "man's show"? I love both shows and I'm a girl thank you very much.

  • @kurtywurty85 doesn't matter if you're a girl or not, Angel still aimed more for the Male Demographic while Buffy was aimed at the girls/family demographic, Creator Joss Whedon said so himself in an interview, look it up.

  • Vast - Here is the song :D

  • Whats the song that starts at 4:54 plz message me the answer soon someone!

  • @spikerocks9 I WANT TO KNOW TOOO! :D

  • Awesome i wish it stayed like this

  • This awaome

  • FYI--All songs are by VAST. In order they are "Here," "Dirty Hole," "Temptation," and "I'm Dying." All four are off their album Visual Auditory Sensory Theater.

  • ALL of the music here seems to be of the first VAST album, "Visual Audio Sensory Theater." They DID use one of 'em in the episode where they meet Officer Kate for the first time, at that "Looking For Mr. Goodbat"-type sleaze bar. But yes, I kinda wish they'd used it for the titles, as well!

  • This is more of a trailer than an unaired pilot.

  • @JohnLogieBaird - You're right, this ISN'T an "unaired pilot," it's what's known as a "DEMO REEL," to show to networks, investors, etc. to just give 'em a general IDEA of what you want to be doing with your show... It's not SUPPOSED to be cohesive, really!

  • This is more of a trailer than an unaired pilot.

  • "Good outfits." Haha. I love David so much!

  • i can never tell when david is acting his character around charisma, its like ok hes all shy and nervous so is that Angel or david. i can never tell even my brother is like dude is he in love with her or something, so its like a ?. real or acting dont know. but i def enjoyed watching them on screen

  • because its a unaired pilot and for the scene it didnt have that particalar scene to show to the guys at the WB. ... duh!

  • @angylofanarkii where do you get the song from 4:50??? any idea's on whats its called?

  • They should of used more rock songs in the score of angel. that shit fits perfectly. like the episode (cant remember wich one) where faith is dancing in a club and they got Rob Zombie livin dead girl playin, sooooo good

  • What is the name of the song that plays at 3:03 - 3:29 ?

  • sorry darl i dunno.

  • @avathequeen14 VAST - Dirty Hole

  • Thanks, i've been looking for awhile now.

  • Also, do you know the last one? At the very end?

  • @avathequeen14 VAST - I'm Dying ... vast seriously fit the tone of the show at the time...

  • @avathequeen14 "dirty hole" by VAST

  • @avathequeen14 VAST - I'm dying THATS THE NAME OF THE SONG THERE......FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT FROM THE COMMENTS HERE :)

  • @avathequeen14 All the these songs sounds like the band VAST that provided the song "Touched" on the second episode, if that helps

  • Does anyone know the name of the songs used in this.

  • I guess this was the pitch to the WB

  • Not to mention they briefly used a clip from the first Blade movie at 4:30.

  • what song starts at about 4:58?

  • I'm Dying by Vast

  • vadt?Already? In 1x02 they used their song touched! xD

  • Long Live BANGEL!

  • Yeh, Angel Was In Every Episode Of Buffy Season 2 & 3, But He Left At Th End Of Season 3. Angel Season 1 Started Wen Buffy Season 4 Did

  • RIP Glenn Quinn

  • The song at 2:19 would've made awesome credits. Like the song they ended up with but this song is more like I thought they'd have gone with.

  • theres a clip from blade in this??? wtf

  • What are the songs in here?

  • The artist in the vid is called VAST.

    The name of the songs are:

    1. Here

    2. Dirty Hole

    3. Temptation

    4. I'm Dying

  • Thank You.

  • I wish the CW or the new WB would bring back Angel on tv. Maybe a tv movie before David get's too old to play the part.

    Too bad the spike tv movie didn't go throw, I would of watch that had it came out on tv. I would love to see a new Angel Series back on tv with the suriving castmember.

  • You could read the comic...... I mean the one of the new season.... just like Buffy they pick up where it left off literally right where they left off and do it in comic form.....

  • Ok, don't get me wrong this was done wonderfully. However, I don't believe this was an official thing.  My reasoning for this would be mainly the Blade clip put squarely in the middle of it. I mean maybe it was done as an official promo, heck if I know, and maybe the blade thing was why it wasn't aired. I think personally this was a good fan-done promo. Now, don't jump down my throat I have my own opinions and a right to them.

  • what Blade clip are ppl talking about in here?

  • Think it's at 4:30 when the clip shows up I could be wrong.

  • I understand your bemusement over what you think is a clip from Blade.

    It is actually from Buffy, Season Three, episode 14 'Bad Girls'. It was written by Doug Petrie and he admits that he is a big fan of Blade. This episode was his homage to the comics.

    Contrary to you I watched Wesley Snipes Blade and thought they ripped-off Buffy, only to discover I was wrong after reading the comic. Blade fans will naturally disagree, but I found the homage more thrilling than the Blade comic version.

  • The actual pilot that did air was much better. It provided the necessary exposition and introductory information. Such was why Cordelia popped up, and who the hell Doyle is. Puls the length...i think this wasn't a pilot so much as a pitch, a promo the company and Joss Wheden used to sell the show. Clearly, it worked.

  • Just a note on the info section. You say its the unaired pilot that never aired. Thats what unaired means. The qualification isnt necessary.

  • Is it just me, or was a quarter second clip from Blade used in here?

  • This Pilot was AWESOME! & SUPERB!

    To bad they had to go continue the series in comics, since the comics are the one with the most exciting stories, fights, and endings!!!

    For those who wonder which comics i mean:

    Angel: After the Fall

    Angel: After the Fall - First Night

    Others are yet to come out in my country. (EU) - (NL, more specificly)

    If there r people who could tell me the titles for the ones that follow up these, plz let me know.

    This makes it easier for me to keep an eye on!

  • omg that was so good they should have aired it

    thanks for puting it on i have never seen it before

  • This is pretty cool. I wonder why they didn't show this.

  • RIP Glen Quinn. He is sorely missed, I'm sure. Definately is by me.

  • You mean the clip of Buffy with the axe that was from "Anne," the first episode of the third season, which was made a year before the first episode of Angel? The clip that was in the opening BtVS credits for years? That axe?

  • No! I undoubtly know which axe he means which he calls "Slayer-Axe", it's the one that Buffy uses on the series big finale! The one that Fray (from the spin-off comics) also uses.

    I know he meant that axe since he also mentioned that there aren't any clips form season seven either...

  • I don't see the slayer Axe, and I don't see any clips from season seven...o.o;

  • Elfaro let me explain:

    This pilot was made after they completed only 3 seasons of Buffy, that's also the period they started Angel's first season.

    Buffy uses the Slayer-Axe just about the same period that Season 4 of Angel is over.

    U should definitly follow both series and the official comics that follow directly after that.

  • I know that, I own both shows. I only read one volume of Angel comic but I'm gonna read it all and I know what axe you're talking about. I'm just saying it wasn't in this video. Thats impossible as it wasn't around until season 7. I dunno what you thought I was saying but you must of misunderstood me.

  • I understand what u mean now, haha i indeed misunderstood you mate. Sorry for that, it's cool by the way that u follow the entire universe as well. ;) What a fan!! :) U RULE HAH!! Greetz KeybladeMaster009

  • Quite alright. =) Thanks.

  • Thats from s3 you idiot.

  • Uhm, wow, this is sooo good, really good job... but it's a pity that they were use this... uhm, btw, what's song is in the end? at 4:37? Thanks ;)

  • He's so hot.

  • angel was supposedly turned by darla when he was 26, not 27...a goof in the pilot, or is just every single other reference wrong..lol

  • From birth to 1753 =27 depending on birthday. Many references ARE wrong. Part of the charm, right? :)

    Angel said 241 in Sept 97 because Giles said in S1 he was 240 "or so" and writers just added 1, but in Apr '98 his turning was dated 1753 which made him 244 by end of 1997! Whedon +co got it wrong. Cordy in Dear Boy, late 2000: "growth spurt at 248?" Angel:"247!"

    Spike, The Initiative, Oct 99: "I'm only 126!" but then we learned he was turned in 1880, making him no older than 119 in 1999.

  • They really need to get there fact striaght. lol Lucky you do.

  • Lucky? Just proves how very sad I am!!! lol

    I think the writers were under pressure and just didn't have time. They had to write something that fitted Joss Whedon's guide for the main story arcs, ensure each character got enough screen time and lines according the actors' contracts & billing AND make it all fit around commercial breaks.

    The scene with the most mistakes: 1st time we saw William pre-turning, 1880 London. A mistake in nearly every line!

  • How so if anything it was Darla I mean didn't they say she was searching for a mate/Child for over 400 yrs. yet it was only 100 maybe 200 yrs before she found Liam.

  • I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. Not trying to be mean, but punctuation really does help make things clear.

    Are you saying Darla was a mistake? ... or that she made many mistakes?

    She was turned early 1600s and found Liam when she was around 150.

    When did anyone say she was searching for 400 years? I never heard that.

    They said she was about 400 when she turned up in L.A., Angel S2.

  • I would never say Darla was a mistake. I mean on Buffy she lacks the strenght she has on Angel or in flashbacks but thats as far as mistakes go with her. I meant I thought they said she was seaching for a mate for 400 yrs before she found Liam apparently I was wrong and got my fact mixed up.

  • Oh, ok.

    As far as Darla in Buffy goes, she was only originally planned to be in just the first two episodes, getting killed in The Harvest, but then after they started filming Joss Whedon had a better idea, namely that she was Angel's Sire. So she had one more episode and nothing until the end of S2 a year later.

    Angel was different too his first few appearances to how he was in Buffy s 2 & 3, and pretty weak. They just hadn't had much time for characterisation.

  • Yah and what a horrible way for him to kill her off originally with holy water and I have to agree Angel was weak on Buffy heck every character that went from Buffy to Angel was weak and got stronger except Spike.lol

  • As James Marsters once said, Angel thinks he can never be redeemed for what he did while soulless and evil. Spike also thinks he can never be redeemed but just blames Angel for everything.

    The whole atonement thing doesn't make sense. Their souls were not involved in any of the nasty vampire stuff!

    Another mystery: before being restored to them, where WERE Angel's and Spike's souls? Buffy's was in heaven while she was dead, and she remembered it. Why can't they?

  • A very good point. Sort of suggests that the body has to die too for a soul to go to heaven/hell or that conciousness can be separated from the soul. I like the idea of a kind of limbo for vampires' soul though.

    I disagree about atonement not making sense. Although their souls were not involved in the "vampire stuff" having them back doesn't mean they forget what they have done, it makes them care.

  • The body DOES die then gets re-animated by "a demon"

    Having their souls back makes Angel & Spike people again, but with unnaturally reanimated dead bodies. They each fight their inner demon all the time and they each remember & are tormented by what IT did.

    It's that soul that goes to heaven or hell.

    Therefore it doesn't make sense for the soul that wasn't there to have to atone for what a demon did with the deceased's body. Clear now?

  • If the atonement thing did factor in, hell Angel would've been atoned while on Buffy. Didn't he helped or played a major role in like 2 or 3 world ending plots. Cuz I remember The Master, That season 3 show with those freaky blue women trying to open the hellmouth, and the Mayor. Then Spike at the end of Buffy. Aren't both vamps supposed to be atoned for their crimes now?

  • Thats not quite right though. They did mention that Darla sired Angelus in one of those first episodes- probably The Harvest.

    Angel is very different in the first season. In "Never Kill a Boy on the First Date" when they're in the Bronze, Owen comes over to Angel and Buffy. The expression on Angel's face is not Angel-like at all. It's pretty much just David Boreanaz!

  • Not so much a group as a man with a band really.

  • Oh and yeah the reason there was/is no Angel clips apart from the first episode is simply because this is a pitch to the WB, other then the pilot (Angel Season 1, Episode 1) no other episodes had been greenlighted at that stage.

    When a new show is created and pitched to a network, alot of the time what you see here is how they are 'pitched' to the network execs.

  • I originally got this video years ago when Angel was first pitched to the WB, back in the days where people were ripping the tv show Buffy on irc and sending them (you all might remember if you watched buffy filenames like BuffyS04E15_HDTV[Pr|cK_100mb_R­eencode].avi), well the same group that released those episodes sent me the video for reencoding as well. What you see here is straight from the 600mb HDTV source.

    Hope that clears up some stuff for you all ;)

  • Cool thats a sweet intro to the series :)

  • what's the song that starts at 2:20?

  • I liked it and it would have been nice if it had been on the DVD, but it looked like it had been strung together by a regular, everyday joe as a fan video... it had more Buffy clips than Angel ones

  • 5:17 out was gay

  • love itttt

  • no it really wasnt. im glad they didnt put it on

  • i cant belive they never aired this is it on the first box set cant remember have to look

  • oooh Doyle! *hugs him* oh how I miss him so. This is the best pilot thanks for posting!

  • he is so hot!!!!!

  • Doyle!

  • That's awesome and amazing! I loved it! Wow! Thanks for posting!

  • I love Angel, awesome pilot! that's for sure

  • where can i download this ?

  • I miss Angel!!!! At least I still have the DVDs.

  • Best damn pilot ever.

  • Someone on the Angel crew was a big VAST fan - there's, like 3 or 4 songs by them in this and another in the series, itself.

  • hes sooo sweet

    *drools*

  • This makes me excited for the show all over again. Damn, can't believe it's over. Oh well looking forward to season 6 in comic book form.

  • it was only 5 minutes long?

  • HAHA why is there a clip of the movie Blade?

  • I was wondering the same thing.

  • I was wondering the same thing. The club scene was from the first Blade movie.

  • this is the promo joss whedon made to sell angel to the WB

  • this isn't a pilot it's more like a long TV spot advertising the show.

  • it's good but it does have a deffinite fan-vid feel to it at the begginning.

  • Angel comes on at 6 on tnt

  • God, I miss those shows...

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