82nd Airborne Live Fire

[RichardGrantV]

Marines are always too proud about their warrior code and boot camp accomplishments. If this guy has something to strut around about, it could actually be GOOD for the marines.

[himse1f]

shit bag

[haszK]

I remeber this type of training while I was in 1st Armored Division.

[YoungBlood313]

@haszK 1st AD is garbage

[andrademeza]

@YoungBlood313 everything that came out of your great grandmothers' pussy is garbage...AND THATS A PROVEN FACT.

[YoungBlood313]

@andrademeza hahaha you muuuuuuuuuust be a pog if you get so upset over the 1st AD being garbage

[maurbank]

For those that don't know, these are reflexive fires. It is designed to teach you identify the target, put your weapon on the target and destroy the target. I have seen a lot of people think they could do this fuck it up, and that is why we train. You can't do the high speed cool shit until you learn the basics. So if it seems boring, go somewhere else.

[RIEKSONE]

still shooting a rifle is fucking awesome

[eik35]

depends what rifle

[RIEKSONE]

@eik35

a ruger 10/22

lol

[eik35]

then it's pretty fucking awesome, yeah :)

[conquistador1958]

Is Ranger school @ Ft Benning this boring ??

[chrismb05]

im in the 82nd as you see in this video, all we do for reflexive fire is "ready up" and its a boring task. look at the guys, theyre all like "lets hurry up and get this over with" and "i dont want to be here right now"

[lovecirl]

lol yea..xd

[lovecirl]

may i ask something is this kinda training like alot about trigger control and handling you're weapon ?

[baseballbadman]

its about fuckin people up with your weapon.

[airborneSGT]

After being out of the Army for 3 years I went back in still able to score a 270 on the APFT. The run was the only event that hurt me. Maxed the rest.

We had a melting pot when I was in the 82nd. Guys from Ranger and my last PSG was from 7th SFG. Great unit to be a part of!

[TheGreenSmoke]

In order to branch Infantry (I'm assuming you do), you need a kick ass GPA and be pretty high up on the OML. Just concentrate on school work and you'll be fine.

I don't know why you would ADSO for a post when you can use it for the Army to pay for graduate school.

[ufgators223]

You cannot request the 82nd Airborne, but you can request Ft. Bragg. You will probably be assigned to the 82nd depending on your MOS but may be assigned to a brigade under the 18th Airborne there. You can ADSO for your duty station which will add on 3 years of additional active duty service on top of your 4 years you already owe making it 7 years total but it is still not guaranteed that you will get Ft. Bragg, just a better chance

[wannabeseal]

I'm in the 1st ID and our standards are just as high as the 82nds. Atleast for us combat arms guys, our pogs on the other hand, i don't know what their standards are.

[Mavidyoute14]

I suppose that would be true in most ways except you don't have to you get your parachutist badge do you.

[85305]

Please 1st id cant hold a candle

Strike Hold!

[voxtelnismo]

combat arms standards are high everywhere. until you deploy then it all goes to shit. our guys weren't even wearing their ACU tops under vests on patrols. shaved every other week. 82nd gets spoiled by working with SF. soon they'll start dressing in civies for combat. lol.

[An4LSeepage]

lol theyd be better off in civvies. UCP is useless.

Where combat arms standards are enforced, its just damn annoying, especially with the shoddy ACUs

i think its a travesty that PEO soldier prioritize aesthetics over functionality and waste boatloads of time and money.

[nyckel]

im in the 82nd now and our standards in my company are held extremely high and our training is tough as well....

[82abnoff]

I was with the 3/505. I was with the 101st in Vietnam. I am a 71542. I know that bullets do not bounce off of bad guys. It is that one that says, to whom it may concern.

[dtk325]

In my experience, the weeding out was done at the 82nd...Turds didn't last long. They would go AWOL or to division mental if they couldn't hang at the unit. Yes standards were higher. Division standard on an APFT is 270. The rest of the Army is 180. My squad average was always over 275-280.

[esters1986]

wow that is a high apft i just took mine a week ago and got 185. Alot of people in my platoon did not pass. I don't have airborne training until march 2009. That should be plenty of time to raise my score.

[dtk325]

If you are doing PT on a regular basis (5 days a week), there is no reason not to be above 250. What kind of unit are you in? Obviously not combat arms.

[esters1986]

Well for my age i only had to get a 180 to pass the bpft i still have to take the apft. My MOS is 19-delta (CAV SCOUT) with the airborne option. We don't do PT every day mabey 4 times a week or they make us do personal pt. I remember my drill seargent saying in airborne he did 101 repitions of every exscersice since he was 101st. All i know is that I need to watch wat i eat at chow becuase it's been mighty fine as of late and working harder on PT. 0.O

[JC90033]

300 AND ABOVE HOOAH

[waaeaa]

the main difference between paras and regular infantry is that paras mission is different- they are spearhead troops. so should be able to force march at least 10 miles with 40lbs not including rifle at 11min miles minimum.

also they should be able to force march 20mls with more weight and about 13-14min miles

can the 82nd paras do this???

do they do this in training???

[djangst]

40lbs nothing. It barely covers the load requirements for an individual rifleman.

We commonly did marches like that with double, some triple that weight.

In the 80's. I don't know about now.

[waaeaa]

yea - but i'm talking about speed also

you aint gonna do 12min miles over undulating terrain with 80-100lbs

& if you say you are then you're bullshitting

[djangst]

True dat.

But if a unit needs speed and doesn't have trucks, one can assume that a road is nearby and chance of attack are low.

On rough terrain, you're more likely to be expecting contact, so speed is less of an issue.

[waaeaa]

its one thing marching with 80-100lbs - that is doable by most troops for up to 50miles

try adding speed and the capability goes right down

[roytboga]

im not sure about british paras but speed is not such a big deal for our paratroops. generally they pack as much shit they can around 80 or 100. this is so once they lande they secure an airhead and hold the fort till more forces arrive. but yes they are very good at all marches

[WarfighterCapable]

@djangst 40 lbs covers ONLY our body armor and load carrying vest with the ammo and weapon, not including assault pack or ruck. which is often 60+ lbs

[sbald82nd]

When I was there, we did forced 12 mile marches with up to 60 lbs. We did shorter marches with much more weight, and also did fast paced rucks with about 50 lbs.

I was in during early 80s, to give a time frame. The Brits that cross-trained with us said they trained about the same.

The difference btw paras and reg. infantry isn't the spearhead deal, as airborne drops never occur at the front line. Para's have to be more independent, more reliable, because we were behind lines w/o supply.

[waaeaa]

yeah this sort of toughness is what i'm talking about with paras- yet they never get the same aura or image that the marines do...why is that? the paras clearly have a tougher job with less support like tanks, artillery , naval guns etc.

by spearhead i meant the element of punching a hole in a vulnerable point or taking a valuable point in the enemies rear behind the lines

[foxychocho]

I know what you saying but this job ain't about publicity. The Army as a whole tend to make less noise about what they do as compared to the marines.

[haszK]

@foxychocho

I have to agree. Marines seem to try to take full credit in anything that they are involved in.

[DannyG1533]

@haszK I've been with the 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, 82nd airborne division for 13 years now and I have been deployed overseas 5 times. I love it when fresh Marine recruits come out of boot camp with a ton of trash talk like "Yeah my boot camp was tougher than yours". I just tell them I jump out of planes and have seen more action than you and the argument is pretty much over. Then if they bring up history I tell them about operation market garden and the Army Rangers hahaha. Hooah

[AgentSpiral]

@DannyG1533 5 deployments?Good god man thanks for your service but you need to go SF!Your experience is crazy..

[ffryan]

@DannyG1533 It's just youth and not having the necessary life experience to weigh the facts. Being proud of your service is a good thing but a good thing taken too far can be detrimental.

[CAallday209]

@foxychocho what're you talking bout? every time i'm around army vets they cant shut up about the army.

[sbald82nd]

As far as securing an airhead, yes, we trained for that, but we never trained to go on the defensive after securing an area. We always trained to secure a drop point, then move out immediately to take nearby towns/villages. If paras go defensive, we're dead, as we don't have the supply like regular infantry. They can defend all they want, as long as there is a supply line behind them.

The only physical and marksmanship differences b/tw us and infantry were we were held to a much higher standard

[waaeaa]

by defensive i meant - if necessary having dropped behind enemy lines that a unit becomes bogged down or trapped & out of necessity have to batten down the hatches & hold out for the cavalry as in the battle of the bulge with the 101st. paras are higher standard troops, mainly stormtroopers but also stubborn in defence...or are supposed to be, but i understand the idea of keep moving keep attacking

[sbald82nd]

Yep, that's correct. Believe it or not, both the 101st and 82nd put up a tough fight at the Ardennes, and the regular infantry divisions managed to either get utterly destroyed or captured. I only make sure to include the 82nd because that was my unit.

As far as defense, we were expected to put up as good a defense as anyone else was, though the defense depended on the troops. Airborne units typically got (and still do) guys who were looking for a little more, so we usually met expectations.

[waaeaa]

why is there no tough selection process for american paras- there is airborne school- but that is only a school to learn how to jump, it only incorporates runs & those runs only go up to 4-5 miles. why dont they have a proper selection process with different events -that are physically & mentally demanding & weed out the mediocre from the tough nuts who are also disciplined & have superior physical fitness- surely they should have this for paratrooper recruits?

[sbald82nd]

Well, I was there 20 years ago, so I'll speak from what I experienced. Paratroopers in the US Army are considered advanced infantry, but not special operations (true in most other countries too).

airborne school does not function like ranger school. ranger school served to be a very intense program to show the upper brass who was worthy to be promoted, etc. airborne school simply got everyone on the physical level required to easily maneuver a para-drop.

[sbald82nd]

Meaning, lots of pull-ups (everyone had to be able to do 23), push ups, sit ups, and fast paced 5-7 mile runs. all of this was because airborne school was the jump school for every service, and was strictly a place of learning how to drop from a plane.

After jump school, army troops either report back to their unit or join the 82nd. i will focus only on the 82nd now.

[sbald82nd]

Full time jumpers in the 82nd were held to higher physical and performance standards than regular infantry. we were forced to qualify w/ an m16 out to 500m, versus regulation 250 or 300. we spent more time in the field, doing intensive battle drills, skirmishes, etc. we spent more time doing reflexive fire training and other close quarters drill

so, there never was a need for a tough selection process. the training we did was tough and long, but we weren't a unit that needed a selection process

[sbald82nd]

Finally, I will put this out. Airborne officers (like myself) were certainly held higher than regular infantry, as any jump soldier is. we were very nearly required to attend ranger school before being promoted to captain, and the grunts were also highly encouraged to attend the school. this was because we were more likely to be in combat, were by nature more independent, and commanders needed to have confidence in our abilities, as supply getting to paras can be quite a challenge

[elwardoT]

Shot here plenty of times ahahah this also has a shoot house.

[lovecirl]

nice!!

[FlintTownProductions]

he needs to keep his body squared off with the target that iba aint gonna do shit if his side is exposed

[BEAR1ER]

this is what i want to be in the 82nd airborn... some one was talking about the pathfinders.. what are they send me a message if you know

[benmaddski]

Bear1er pathfinders are airborne troops still in the same unit but they are sent ahead of a airborne invasion or assualt to mark out landing zones with radio beacans, once that is done they may either link up with ground assualts depending on there objectives or wait for there unit to land and fight as regular rifleman in there company, platoon etc,, sort of like a ranger in the airborne

[82ndABKhan]

"and you know dam well that ya can't eat fat"

[Dav82nd]

Awesome......AIRBORNE!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

[DavidAirborne]

HA! I remember this! Never thought I'd see my shitty times at Bragg revived on youtube.This was back in December 2007.

[WaroftheGalaxies]

I live right by Fort Bragg(Home of the 82nd Airborne), and soon will enlist in the 82nd Airborne(maybe). I can hear gunshots and explosions coming from Fort Bragg like every day. Its awesome!

[Eric2cool]

lol yea i remember before the war, you could hear artillery like ever 15 20 minutes

[letsmoge]

you guys are about as high speed as my dead grandma.

[HAHOProductions]

high speed= bad aim

bad aim= more time to get shot

more time to get shot= exponential increase in chances of getting killed

slow is smooth and smooth is fast something like that

[Lenspunk89]

"Slow yourself down to speed yourself up", as I've heard.

[14085snake]

@Lenspunk89 Slow but Sure, fast but inaccurate.

[peppupelittaja]

airborne guys are much harder than any regular marine. that was seen in second wolrd war..

[Joshuapwnzu1516]

Of course.

[Stillakilla187]

nice shootin, but its all about the 10th Mountain!

[wehrmachtsniper1]

Airborne guys are hard as hell. Dont mess with them. period. But naturally I say Marines are tougher because it wont be long before i'm with them.

[philipbar16]

At least your square range is not totally boaring! Call Pat Rogers to teach you guys a course.

[GarrettCS]

All American All The Way!

[markus198572]

At 58 seconds the guy has to square his sapi plate.

[rnepinak]

what kind of fucking pivot is that? Brutal.

[WO1Wells]

GREAT VIDEO!

Warrant Officer Wells

1st Brigade Combat Team

504th Parachute Infantry Regiment (PIR)

82nd Airborne Division

Fort Bragg, NC

[EDGEN123]

HOOAH

[bigaaron2]

my brother got through 14 of 15 weeks of 82nd training, and they found a blood clot in his leg so he had to return home, and i would just like to thank every soldier in the US army for what they do and to the ones who have tried, thank you and god bless you and your family

[9414HMD]

It's a start... Hopefully somebody will be saying "contact left, right, rear" or whatever instead of "up" when the get into combat...

[slaaargh]

Wow.. what the fuck

[TheGreatGizzo]

cool video. I want to join after I finish my first year of college in a couple months.

[hucser]

hey, sorry to interrupt, how about join OCS after u graduating from the collge??? or if they have ROTC, join it ^^ ( I want to join OCS one but I don't know whether my legal statue change to citizen ^^)

[fenianguy]

I loved this training. It got tiring with the 249 after a while, but I think this was really valuable training. Doesn't look like it has changed too much in a few years....so I'm not an old timer yet!

[centermass85]

Reflexive fire is always fun, but man I hated it as a SAW gunner. Talk about pure torture on your back...