feminism is against sense.

[subhanallaahi]

paavappetta pnnungale chathichum chathippichum nadakkunna chunkathara yude thara paripadi ASIANET il kandu.ithaano thouheed?

[pinaypk]

If against feminism you mean you are against equal rights---and therefore you are against sense.

[abdullahbinzuhair]

r u ready to send ur mother, sister or wife to street in midnight?

[pinaypk]

Is that a threat? Because resorting to violence is another thing that is against sense---an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.---I like how you assume I am a man. The females in my IMMEDIATE FAMILY have been educated with college degrees I doubt they would be on the streets.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk when was feminism ever about equal rights?

Before or after every man is seen as an uncivilised rapist.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen feminism started with women wanting rights that were equal to men's rights own property, vote, etc...there are radicals/extremists of every movement/religion so please don't be naive and confuse them. Now, why would believe men are "uncivilized"? Men were more likely throughout history to be able to go to school unlike women. Women now are perpetually bombarded with messages to worry about now going out alone, how can you blame them?

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk I have some agreement with your reply, however, I don't believe many schools to be civilized, or a place where you can learn to be so.

I didn't quit understand the part where you talk about going out alone.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen I am talking about how women are always reminded to be cautious whether going out alone, how to dress, what to do, we are the ones still trapped in a place that says we are "free" men usually don't have to worry about these precautions. Its okay for my brother to be out at night because he is a man, yet when I was growing up I could not go out because I am a woman.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen If you agree with my comment that feminism started off with women wanting equal rights to men. Then why are we having this conversation? And if you believe that there are radicals/extremests in every movement then why are we again having this discussion? Don't confuse people who cal themselves "feminists" that believe women are superior to men, when that is NOT what the true idealogy of being a feminist!

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk I said that I agree with SOME of your reply, in that my first comment may have seemed 2 dimensional and shallow. I still believe that feminism is a mutation on civilisation. Men are the key to the survival of humanity.

Women are the door way. Both being just as important yet DIFFERENT. we can't have the same rights all the time as this would conflict the nature (even more).

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen the SOME part of my reply which you believed, are they not the two important rebuttle for your response "When was feminism about equal rights" to that 1) Roots of feminism was on equal rights in fact, 2) Don't mix up feminism to radical feminism/extremests...If feminism was a mutation of civilization (if you assume Bad mutation), then why are countries where women have more rights richier/ more stable societies?

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk Look at the statistics in STRESS, split families, single parents, divorce and under-age pregnancy. compare places with more "womens rights" (UK, U.S), with other places over the past 3 decades.

Feminism is proof that men haven't got it right. Its not the answer to getting it right (it being well balanced family values and well being between men and women) .

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen Did you see the statistics that UK and the U.S are wealthy self sufficient nations? In Afghanistan literacy rate was below 50%, women's literacy rate was about 21% Average life expectancy in that country is around 45 years old..with no stable government, poor economy, low education overall but especially for women--their country is suffering more. I don't deny the stress, but there are other factors not specifically because women have equal rights b/c rights 4 wmn in fact are not equal

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk I cant see how feminism would increase life expectancy or economical and educational standards in the middle east, and I disagree with having the same rights (by law) for men and women.

My reason is that men and women are different types of human-being, both physically and mentally. There for, we must promote rights (if we see the reason) according to these differences.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen Makes perfexct sense. 2 people are bringing home 2 incomes allowing children more educational/healthcare opportuntiies. If both men and women are allowed equal rights for education+work opportunities it allows the populationa s a whole twould o be self reliant and self sufficient. Women would therefore be self reliant and won't need men to be the "breadwinner" b/c women would be able to contribute to society in many ways other than just being a housewife.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk Remove the teeth from a tiger and it becomes nothing more than a kitty cat. Men are gradually waking up to this fact (slowly).

Mother, even fathers too, nursery, middle school, secondary school, collage, uni.

Then we have shows that have already done considerable damage on peoples mental perception of living expectations: Friends, Sex in the city, allymcbeal, maury, montel, opra, fox (fix) news, mens health, all programs tht do just that.

PROGRAM feminism poison below threshold.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen I don't know what you are trying to say. For my quote that men have less genetic code and therefore should have less rights (because their Y chromosome has less genetic material than the X chromosome)-->I'm pointing out sounds ridiculous, like your belief that men and women should have less rights because they are different...so if you wan't to play the different game there you go: seems like women are more human b/c are XX compromises more genetic code overall to men...

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen I meant to say that your belief that women and men should have seperate rights/unequal rights because they are different*** is ridiculous

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen Why are you pointing on tv shows that are result of rising feminity? I can easily point out porn and ask you whether thats any better? Porn being more vulgar, more nudity, sexual content, and violence compared to the tv programs that can be aired on tv channels whereas porn cannot.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk "Why are you pointing on tv shows that are result of rising feminity?"

I wouldn't insult feminism with this question in regards to material i mentioned (sx in cty, oprah, etc) even though im against it. I only know that these shows undermine the male/masculine principle and have no positive effect on the unification of men and women.

More porn is a direct result of feminism and you know it.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen I think you make the error of over generalizing...the DIRECTORS of those shows are separate INDIVIDUALS with different beliefs, preconceived notions,etc which are not subject to the entirety of the female population you can't just believe based on those shows every female has the same exact mentality. Of those RECENT shows it does not compare to history of men's negative views and beliefs. Porn has been around BEFORE women's rights. Porn has a large MALE audience vs women.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk these shows are all checked by the same governing bodes before they are released.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen The majority of the people in the Nazi parties are males, does that mean male dominance lead to genocide?The taliban exists mostly in places where there is not an equal distribution of rights, so does that mean that an unequal distribution of rights leads to violence and national iniquity? The majority of rape is perpetraded by male agents, does that mean that all men are rapists? 90%+ Men are prisoners, does that mean men are all criminals?

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen Just comparing those over generalizations to your preconcieved notions about women.

[pinaypk]

@pinaypk and furthermore Porn has not been getting worse (i,e more violent/obscure fetishes/bestiality) is not the result of the rise of feminism, but of the sensitization of sexual violence put forth by society.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk I disagree that porn hasn't risen since then. Ether way, women now have the rights to choose what the hell they do with their bodes.

And porn is an in-house problem for feminists.

They need to aim the blame at these women (them selves) who feel they have the right to do what, where, when and whom with their own bodes.

Also' porn has a larger ratio of female participants over men.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen What EXACTLY are the rights do you OPPOSE women having? Make yourself clear. There are more female participants in porn because there is 1) More women in the WORLD, 2) Porn industries reach out to a majority of male audiences. you should read the Filth that should give you a basic undestanding of why porn is getting worse (not by more women) but by how people are not even getting aroused by just "plain old sex" anymore..

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk Forget what rights women shouldn't have for now. how about women taking full responsibility for the equality they have already been given (however unbalanced you thing it is).

How about law changes in the west; giving men AND women the right to go their separate ways in devorce circumstances WITH THEIR OWN ASSETS they worked for and entered the relationship with.

Women have the abortion rights.

So give men the right to choose not to pay child-support.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen You are acting if that is the case in EVERY divorce! Did you forget that divorce hasent been in women's favor throughout history? YES I believe EVERYONE has THEIR own responsibility as an adult! lol my father didn't pay my mother squat when he left us, nor did he pay his 2nd wife when he left her with a kid. Unlike you I don't use my dad as a representation of the whole Male race. It depends on a person and that is more complex than gender.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk Did you know your dad?

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen After 9 years of not knowing where he went he came his 3rd wife my mom (with no options left). He's pretty old now. His old wives and his family won't take him in. My mom took him in. He doesn't have a job, he was practically homeless. He's like a child happy when I bring him home ice cream or McDonalds. He just stays home, smokes, read his books, while my mom has a full time job. He doesn't do much knows what he put my mom and me through and hes sorry. Thats all.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk There might be another dynamic explaining your old-man's behaviour, I don't know him so cannot defend his behaviour, perhaps he doesn't deserve a defence, perhaps he doesn't need it.

At least he didn't steal you from your mother, or turn you against her or have state enforced restraint orders so that she could only see you at his convenience.

He neglected you yes, but he didn't restrict ether of you.

Would forced child-support payments have brought you and him closer?

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen He did "harrass" us threw stones at our house b/c my mom refused him to stay with us after my dad kept coming & going which is understandable the way my mom reacted he abandoned us.. hes just a bad person. He restricted us financially, like I said 2 incomes better than one..then he comes back when we are stable to mooch on my Mother's independent hard work. My dad's retired military I got money from military until I was 18...but $400 a month doesn't cut it.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen but I don't blame the male population b/c of the bad example my dad portrays, he's being a bad father, for being a horrible person. My mom was the only one out of her brothers to graduate with her BA...yet she provides for all 3 of her bros & their families, one has 8 kids! in a poorer country..My mom does more than her share of responsibilities. Narrowing on gender is pointless. You should judge an invidual based on their actions/lack of actions, not their gender.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk So your dad stood the chance of risking his life, not just for you, but for the entire country you live in. $400 a month is more than squat. just because they CHANGED THE NAME of where it comes from, doesn't mean its not from your dads earnings/work/pocket/sweat.

Just because your living expenses were not met by these payments, that doesn't make them small change.

(Imagine $400 per month, in the hands of your poor uncle).

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen My dad was a MAILMAN in the military during Vietnam war. he didn't even finish his highschool, this was when military drafted for soldiers so my dad did not have a CHOICE. In a family both parents have to be responsible not just one and like I said it came from military not from my dad's hands. Yes well I guess $400 is enough to buy a dad out of his responsiblities as a father? $400 is ALOT ina 3rd world country obviously not in the U.S where our minimum wage is not $1 a day big diff.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen Judge on actions not gender, I thought someone your age should know better. I feel as if I'm the child telling the adult how to behave in a modern world with moder concepts.. Europeans were wrong about this whole Darwinian concept with white superiority and likewise wrong about their concepts on women. you can't even answer the question I asked, what rights don't you like women to have, so far you're too busy pussyfooting around.

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk 1, If your dad wasn't FORCED to join the military, how would you guy's have made made up for the "squat".

2,seen as we're on the subject, I've never heard of a woman drafted for active duty. (have things changed)?

3,To answer your question; the laws should be changed so that any split results in each person going their separate ways with what they worked/own for or what they came into the relationship with. (with or without children).

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen lol okay 1. That $400 went to my private middle & HS education (if not for the $400 I just would be in public schools. My mom makes more than my father financially so SHE would have made up more than that "squat". 2) EXACTLY you wonder why women cannot be drafted?! B/c its people LIKE YOU who believe women should have DIFFERENT rights and NOW you're complaining why we can't be drafted?! You're a hypocrite, not even consistent on what you argue about!women should be drafted LIKE men!

[pinaypk]

4. On domestic violence, lol so again if you want violence of men from women to be taken more seriously, different rights for women and men ALSO undermine that! The majority of law officials are men, about war majority of political leaders decideing war were MEN (WWI, II, and iraq war!)...so who are you saying is responsible for the rules (not drafting women) and the mentality that are put forth in our society?!

[Dr9steen]

@pinaypk

4,Domestic violence from women towards men should be taken just as seriously as it is in reverse.

5,Parents should have the rights to take their children in/out of school as of and when they like.

6 (present) Fathers should have inhome disciplinary rights over his family. If i could change laws, these would be some of them regarding men/women.

(enough for you to challenge)?

Did child-support (squat-support) bring you closer to your dad?

(requires only 2 possible answers)

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen 5. I whole heartedly disagree with that education ALWAYS benefits. and Education does not stop at highschool, but its our obligation to pursue education. You talk about a tyrannical parenting style, when psychological reserach shows more success with children's psychological well being and academic success through an authoritative parenting style! Money in place of a fathering role does not bring a child closer to their dad. You should know better money doesn't make someone love you.

[pinaypk]

@Dr9steen You're right, men have less genetic code and therefore should have less rights.

[pinaypk]

@abdullahbinzuhair Why? My mother has a stable federal job, while my Father is the homeless and has no job? However, we are in America, nothing is bad in America not eve being poor there are foodstamps, welfare, self-help groups. Lots of resources for even the homeless. No I am not worried, I have no sister only a brother who did not even graduate from College. My mom Graduated from College and I am in college now.

[injunkayldotcom]

Down with the foolishness of feminism and also the masonic falsehood which is islam.