@amcanmike Lolz we have over 20% unemployed and you say the US is doing well? We are doing poorly my friend. That's why I'm leaving. Follow the great exodus to Asia.
I had a joint account with my mother without knowing and I deposited $1,400 and I did not know that she owed the bank. Is there anyway for me to get my money back? I heard that if they didn't take her to court they don't have the authority to take the money. They refunded me $700 of that and I am thinking they did that so I would take it and just accept them taking half. Someone please help me somehow.
Capitalism isn't crumbling. It's the mixed economy that is crumbling. It is the statist / fascist / socialist / farcist economy that is crumbling. Capitalism is the natural function of the free market, as in an unencumbered economy. We haven't had a truly free market for over a century, if ever. This is the end of farcist Keynesian economics -- the nonsense of planned economies.
@EdgeMugga Capitalism isn't crumbling , true. it's working fine. Capitalism is about concentrating wealth, resources and power in the hands of the few, this is happening. Capitalism is not designed to share wealth or promote social justice. The free-marketeers constantly arguing against government intervention. Government intervention is apparently fine when it's in the form of trillions of dollars to financial institutions to keep the market running smoothly. Time for a regime change.
@HelmetBlissta That is a fantasy. We have CORPORATISM, not capitalism. Corporatism, worse than socialism, which is control of the economy by the government, is the control and use of coercive state power for the sole purpose of corporations. Capitalism worked amazing well in the 19th century, INCREDIBLE feats of human ingenuity and innovation were popping up all over the place. We've had incredible technological revolution since then, but the wealth is vacuumed up to your masters.
@HelmetBlissta For the record, the trillion dollar bailouts were HUGE MASSIVE, INCREDIBLE violations of the free market. Think about it for about. Try and wrap your head around the system man. Your corporate masters justified stealing, literally stealing, from you, at gunpoint (you will be arrested for tax evasion, and shot if you resist), trillions of dollars to maintain the wealthy. Then they blame capitalism and use to justify EVEN MORE control over your life. THINK MAN, we need you here.
@Digali , thanks for your response,We've got to stop this endless, out-of-control escalation of capitalism. An ideology predicated on infinite growth, demanding infinite growth, taking over government after government, with no real rivals since 1989... it is the virus that will kill the world, the virus with no cure, and the virus that only grows stronger with each disaster. The stupified world needs to wake up and be terrified. I think I might be in a different place to you.
@HelmetBlissta Think think think! We need all hands on deck. There will a very short window of time when the current system collapses and the global elite try to foist there new system of control, some think a world government, (new world order) after there have been enough wars and depressions that people will do anything to get them out of this. We need rational people like you who see that the system we have is NOT working. It has us fighting each other, my friend. THEY are the enemy.
@HelmetBlissta If socialism is the answer then why are all western countries in trouble? How can you blame individuals acting voluntarily when not one country in the world allows prices to be set through volunteerism? Socialism is class warfare, no peacefull society can be achieved where warfare is the ideology.
@EdgeMugga agreed, wholeheardetly, you are the voice of reason my friend. The state, the military industrial complex, it is all working for the benefit of the few. Even our ENTIRE monetary system is designed to benefit the already incredibly wealthy families that own our economy through the federal reserve, which is no more 'federal' than federal express. Nobody knows what really goes with our money, they won't let the government into their offices to audit. It's OUR money they are fiddling with
@Digali Thanks, for the boost. You have an interesting way of engaging others. I would have been more likely to say something like: Get up off your knuckles and fight like a human being, with reason and evidence. There are just so many people parroting all the Marxist slogans and bromides without thinking it through. It's nice to see someone else who can dazzle others with their footwork while they deliver the alley-oop.
bankers are the ultimate terrorists, islamic terrorists maybe kill 30 people on a good day, bankers starve millions through manipulation and corruption of governments
Cool! 17k+ views in only 3 days. This should be on tyhe featured videos! Fuck youtube Australia! they put dogshit like fat aussie bastard and angry aussie, a couple of dickheads, when this is far more important.
Check out at 16 minutes - US housing prices were 5 times the average national income at the peak, and right now Canadian home prices are at 7.4 the national average income, or 50% higher than the U.S. was??? Holy crap, that is nuts!
@DragonYearJoji Yeah, this guys rock! I wish I had money back when he predicted gold was going to skyrocket! I am still bashing my head against the pointy corner of my desk...
Max, Please, when you ask a question, and the guest clearly misinterprets the question, slap the guest and reask the question. There is no point in hearing an erroneous nonanswer to an unasked question when you ask specific intelligent questions that deserve consideration and an appropriate response.
What will motivate people in a currency-less society of the future: Self Esteem, Curiosity and Personal Responsibility. We are brainwashed to ignore these to learn greed, but start with education.
@Ranger4564 A currency is the will of the market, you would need violence in order to prevent the market from establishing one. So lets not go down this path.
@fergus247 I don't specifically have a problem with using an intermediary for bartering. What I have a problem with is then creating an entire ecosystem around the actual device, instead of use of the device. There is no reason for accountants, lawyers, bankers, etc, if you actually limit the focus the device has in society. First and last, human satisfaction / gratification / comfort has to be the only imperative. We have so much potential for surplus, but the greed of some is killing us.
@Ranger4564 There is no need to design society centrally. In fact, the only way you can do this is by using violence, which we can clearly see doesent work and is immoral
And greed for lack of a better word is part of human nature. You are programmed to survive, to put yourself first before anyone else. This is why you behave nice toward people, because if you are angry all the time, no one will like you, and your survival rate goes down.... basically =)
My point is, its not use to begin working against "greed" and human nature, you need to come up with something that is compatible. And anarchy, complete freedom, is the answer.
@fergus247 People like you keep saying that, but that's not completely accurate. Greed is a condition which afflicts A PART of SOCIETY. Not all human beings express or exhibit greed to the same extent, and not all human beings are greedy, they learn it through social conditioning. There is an equal number of people who are generous, but the greedy have skewed society to their rules, to their liking, to their bias. It's so fucking simple, I'm amazed it's that hard to see.
@Ranger4564 Look, think about it... 1 person is kind, 1 person is cruel... the cruel will always win, because the kind will be generous, and the cruel will take advantage / even kill the kind. Now multiply that to a civilization... the cruel have directed societies through conquest, oppression, brain washing, so on, but the world also has kind people. You just have to find the kind people and let them direct things, and treat the cruel as sociopaths and imprison them, not laud them.
@Ranger4564 OK, so I am not well liked, because I am angry all the time, and I will not reproduce because no women want to be near an angry guy... that's why I'm frantically trying to get my message across to you guys, so I don't have to rely on my nonexistent kids to carry my generous message forward. ;)
Re intrinsic nature of greed, why do people work as Doctors / Red Cross, FEMA / rescuers, Fire Fighters, Soldiers, Police, Emergency Ambulance Paramedic? All kinds of good people / jobs.
@Ranger4564 My point is, many people sacrifice themselves to save or help others. Just because the media and capitalists are so vocal about their ponzi scheme does not mean there are no kind / caring people on the planet. Most people are not selfish, but they're forced into that role by the society that exists. You are inverting the cause and effect. You claim we're selfish, so we have a greed based economy... I say, we are selfish because the greedy conquerors created a greed based system.
@Ranger4564 Listen, Einstein says exactly what I say... go search Google for Einstein, Why Socialism. Read the first couple of paragraphs. In it, he argues what I argue... the societies of today are the decendants of the conqueror / ruler / oppressive societies of the past. We created corrupt social structures because we are mentally and emotionally unhealthy, having endured the brutality of the rulers / kings / monsters who defined premodern civilizations. Just read it, it's short.
@Ranger4564 I've read Einstein's essay. It is basically a lightweight amalgam of Marxism and Keynesianism, of course with a dose of Einstein's own admirable reasoning and good nature. However, there are several fallacies in his essay, and a few non-truths. For example, that technological development leads to unemployment under a capitalist system. This has shown to not be the case in the 50 years since he has been dead, and the 50 years before he wrote his essay. There are other flaws as well...
@Ranger4564 Sorry, correction... I do not mean to say we are selfish because the greedy... I mean to say we exhibit selfishness because the greedy...
Difference is that one is an expression of a characteristic (something you are taught or pick up in society like smiling at strangers) while the other is a manifestation of a characteristic (something you express as part of your personhood like being talkative or inquisitive).
@Ranger4564 So when we have an entity like the state, an entity like the "modern" government. Who has the biggest incentive to control it? The kind or the cruel?
This is the absolute reason legitimising violence is not going to work. Because you will just have all the bad people flocking toward this power.
@Ranger4564 You, and others on here, seem to have trouble with the meaning of the word greed. When someone like Ayn Rand says "Greed is good" it is not meant in the irrational sense, that I can steal and cheat as much as I like. Greed is good, implies that people want things and they should want things. Feeding your family, or working for the Red Cross as you put it, requires a level of greed in this way: you need resources to do these things. You need things you don't automatically start with.
@Ranger4564 For example, if we interpret greed in this broader sense, Amnesty International is greedy when they solicit donations from people. They need resources to do work, and so they appeal to private individuals' sense of charity to get these resources. Greed, in the pseudo-Marxist sense, is IRRATIONAL greed. Greed on its own is necessary for survival, or indeed for any sort of meaningful works, whether social or private. Do you follow?
@Ranger4564 I would like to argue that being generous is a greedy action in itself. Because being generous gives the generee something he values in return. Ie. a feeling of well being.
@fergus247 Of course this based on people being generous not because they feel they have to, but rather because they want to. Which is how things should work. You dont have to do a damn thing :)
Informative segment, Max. I knew bits and pieces about the real crimes being committed by the globalists and I find your programs really help to flash out the details. Your guest made some excellent points... we are realistically looking at the possibility of having to establish an entirely new system of international commerce that puts the needs of the people first. Stacy is a great part of your team and I always enjoy hearing her news and views. Thanks for your efforts, Max.
@dialoguequent I really hope supporting Isreal become a american holocost, people only change when the consequences are the exact consequences of the entent. They will let the central bank give away money until inflation increases, spend money on military until it threatens security and do campaign finance reform when politians can't get money anymore.
The guest accedentally contradicted himself when he said we have to recognize government has a gun in the room and it should put it down but then it should pick it up when it comes to his ideas of getting people out of the stock market.
NO! That is wrong people should be able to gamble pump up markets and screw other people. Why? So they the people who get screwed will not do it again! Sure there is a sucker born every minute but we can't take care of everyone via the government.
@davincij15 First of all how do you not be a sucker seriously I want to know. Do you recommend putting money in bank accounts, government bonds, gold. They are all guaranteed to lose money, stocks CAN make money in the long run. Also I have a simple solution to curb excess trading, give one trading point per day. Everyone that day will set the price and everyone will get some sleep before the next trading time.
"That is wrong people should be able to gamble pump up markets and screw other people. Why?"
People are driven to stock markets because it is really the only place where the average person can avoid takes. If you look at a graph of stock market investment vs GDP, you see a steady increase after retirement accounts with tax breaks were introduced.
Stephan is a communist anarchist. He thinks people will do things without force or incentives, he doesin't understand people. I am happy about the "gun in the room" because I won't be shot but would like other to be "shot".
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 He's a philosopher first who operates from the non aggression principle. I think he understands that the solution is multi-generational and old thinking (my gun is bigger than yours) will have to die out as humanity matures.
@DCLugi He needs to answer the question what time will people wake up if they won't make money and nobody cares. People who check on people administrators will be the first to quit if they are not payed. Also society has matured, there is almost no chance of violence if you obey the laws and very few wars occur.
And I'm happy about the bank robbery last week because I'm am 10,000 dollars richer. That form of statement not an argument. It is merely a statement of preference.
You're either a troll or woefully ignorant. Considering your subscriptions and subscribers, I'm going with troll. Give me one video, book, or podcast where stef calls for the abolition of all money.
The communist and individualist anarchist overlap in many ways. Both desire a peaceful and prosperous society where individuals are self-directed. Both involve an exploitation theory, though they diverge. The classification however should be based on the differences though.
I also apologize and retract my earlier judgment that you were a troll.
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Not sure why you think people won't be paid. Steph is 100% for people getting paid including himself. On his site he has plenty of information. He's not just talking for the sake of talking. As far as violence is concerned I suspect we have different definitions of the word. Any time anyone pays a tax it's because of violence.
@DCLugi That is a strange way of looking at taxation. It's not perhaps because we formed a society bigger than 1 individual, and in order to achieve social goals we had to fund the common agenda? How in god's name do you people condone marriage with this kind of logic? Do you make your spouses pay for their own stuff because you don't want to be taxed by their needs? It's the same damn thing, except the benefits are different, and the costs are different.
@Ranger4564 Ah, but marriage is "voluntary" and no one tells you who to marry it's a choice. If marriage worked the way government does you'd have the majority vote on who you should marry.
@Ranger4564 In marriage, usually the wife doesn't threaten the husband with imprisonment for not buying her stuff. Marriage is a voluntary relationship (usually, and I would say ideally). The relationship between a citizen and a state is involuntary, for the most part. Some voluntary interactions occur, but for the most part the state does not ask you politely for taxes, it demands them from the safe end of a barrel of a gun.
complacent americans are accustomed to living with their uncomfortable sucking host. lately, these hosts have been steadily stacking. How do you make cancer uncomfortable to live with? that's how serious this all is. they're selling headstones!!!???
I love when 2 individuals like Stef and Max cross paths.
I am continually amazed that people say "capitalism" when they mean government intervention. The word "capitalism" has been abused into uselessness, like "liberal" when what is meant is "progressive".
Great interview Max. I'm glad you had Stephbot on the show. I agree that governments are to blame for millenia due to their hierarchal structure. However, it has to be said that religion, and markets have always had hierarchal attributes as well. As the great American anarchist Benjamin Tucker said you cant have a free society without abolishing the four monopoly's which are the land, tarriff, patent, and money monopoly's that hold back human innovation and the human yearning for liberty.
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." ~ Thomas Jefferson
@silversobe This guy was a statist you see. His motives are not to secure peoples wealth and wellbeing. It is to secure his own, through the power of the state. Take it from Molyneux, he is reliable in that he is interested in truth and has explored the ideas of statism for a very long time. Conclusion is always the same. It doesent work.
if the population continues to believe there is no God, we are going to contiue to live in this corrupted economic system. The few christians that are out in the world need to quit working for the money masters. Its time to start living a truly richeous life. Our ultimate incentive should be to get to heaven.
"Perfect Citizen", "Patriot Act", "Financial Reform" all sounds harmless to me. With great names like that, how could they be fascist/totalitarian tools?
The most perverted thing is the argument that we cannot afford the social programs because they cost too much. This is so disingenuous that I should not have to indicate why, but I will. Hello, dumb people of the world, WE DECIDE THE COST OF EVERY FUCKING THING ON THIS PLANET. We decide what something costs, in order to restrict access to that something, by the population. That is what COST means. So what this dipshit is really saying is that he really does not want people to be taken care of.
@Ranger4564 We have constructed a society which restricts peoples access to somethings, by way of making them prohibitively expensive. But the whole reason they become so expensive is an ideological conundrum. You establish that you are not worthy and must work your ass off to acquire anything, you develop a system which blackmails you into working hard, as added bonus, the system reinforces scarcity to ensure your productivity, and we then cry that things cost too much. You people are sick.
@Ranger4564 There is no reason we cannot take care of the elderly, the infirm, the poor, etc. The reason we do not, is because it's contradictory to the goals of the system. Taking care of people provides an incentive to be unproductive. BUT, the elderly already worked their asses off, and the infirm cannot work hard, and the poor are created by the transfer of wealth to the top... so these people don't need an object lesson, they need HELP.
@Ranger4564 What said dipshit is really crying about, he doesn't even know. He's complaining that some sort of socialist trap has caught Canada in a vice... sorry, vise. But the fool doesn't evaluate whether the aims of the capitalist system he so dreams of has any merit to it as a SOCIAL STRUCTURE... because that's all commerce and economy are, social structures. We have all the technologies to create surplus, but we are intentionally creating deficit. Ask yourself why. CONTROL. That's why.
@Ranger4564 The problem is not that everyone will have everything, that's a good thing for god's sake. The problem is, what do we do with people, and how do we motivate them to work. My point is, let them learn to be smart in school, let them pursue what they really want to do in life, let them research / produce / construct whatever they really want, and establish social structures that guide people to self development. Society will prosper by itself. No need for the stick / Shove the carrot.
@Ranger4564 So, think about it some more. Why in the world would anyone create a social structure which goes around demeaning / depriving / tormenting the populace? It's because society was created by Sociopaths. Alexander the Great, Ghengis Kahn, Atilla the Hun, they were assholes, not great leaders... they killed people... if you ran into them, you'd either be dead or their slave. These people created the nobility, statehood, ownership. Just think outside the box. Peace.
@Ranger4564 You seem like you want people to think in terms of some kind of Utopian society. To me, all that does is prompt people to focus on fantasy rather then reality. Reality means assholes will always exist and will always seek power and control. A society can only thrive amongst that if they are aware of that reality and remain vigilant.
@rawtheory333 What you call reality, is just a brutalism that's unnecessary. What you call reality, is just 1 version that is possible. I wish you did not claim primacy to reality / human nature / correctness. You are claiming that the world exists in only 1 way. For the Last Time... Human Nature is not limited to assholes... human nature also includes compassion. Some are assholes, so let's put them in jail, not in the Boardroom. You are making society = lowest common denominator. Unappealing.
@Ranger4564 I see the world with my eyes and mind not my heart. My heart is reserved for my state of being and my local community and my work. The world is many things, but one thing it has never been is "fair". You pine for a world that has never existed and will never exist because it would run contrary to the nature of this world, which is free Will. Love, by its very nature, will always submit to Will. Thus the drama ensues, as it does in Nature.
@rawtheory333 I developed all of these ideas on my own, through 45 years of independent thinking. I did not watch Zeitgeist to learn how to think. Any similarity in my thinking and Zeitgeist thinking is purely coincidental. What it means is, there is some truth to what Zeitgeist and I are saying, because 2 or more different entities came to the same conclusion using similar logic and reasoning. I'm impressed.
@Ranger4564 You ideology is just a logical extension of socialist/ communist ideas. Sounds nice on paper,....yet has no basis in reality. The same can be said of the second half of Zeitgeist: Addendum.
@rawtheory333 Yet, it's the corporations / capital that is raping the world. The irony is not escaping me. You are trying to blame Government for the moral corruption of the bankers / finance capital, while I am blaming capital. I don't know why you think the GOV is the source of the problem... they are just pawns. Capital would find another way to achieve what it wants, so stop the scapegoating and look at the real criminal, please.
@Ranger4564 Fascism is Corporate collusion within Gov. The monopolies and Gov are to blame. It takes two to tango. You sound blinded by your socialist/communist ideology.
@rawtheory333 People do already help themselves. The problem is, they help themselves to other people's possessions. I wish you understood what wealth is... it is a ratio, not an absolute. I wish you understood what profit is... take from someone, put in your pocket. I wish you knew what a non materialist egalitarian society was... Capitalism is take from the poor and give to the rich... just think about it deeply... it's not obvious at first sight.
@Ranger4564 Wealth is value gained through assets accrued through work. I have no problem with someone gaining more then I for being smarter and/or working harder. Wall St and the Fed Reserve facilitate Crony-Capitalism/Mercantilism/Fascism. The US had 0% inflation for 100 years because the Market wasn't dominated by Wall St, fiat currency, and Gov sponsored Monopolies. Tribal peoples were somewhat egalitarian, but they're all dead now.
@rawtheory333 Are you seriously trying to suggest that the only time capitalism has caused problems around the world has been in the past 100 years? You really need to step out of the box you're in and look at the world and some of the most prominent critics of capitalism, to see the true history. Imperialism is part of capitalism, might, greed, oppression, self interest, amorality, division of society, distaste for the opposing party in the competitive setting. Capital works against humanity.
@Ranger4564 Just think of it this way. Capitalism prospers through limited supply and high demand. That alone should tell you, people will suffer. It's a system based on deficiency (not enough) and it will not make more than is profitable. I think we can stop because we're not convincing each other, and I don't have the energy. I just point these things out, and people who understand them can learn to think differently. People who don't, well there is nothing to do but let them live their lives.
Caps locks, insults and cursing, what an elegant argument. But you have not grasp on economics.
The function of money is to allow indirect exchange of real things. These programs require real materials, labor, and capital much of which could potentially be used in other endeavors. When these factors are diminished faster than they can be replaced, the result is capital consumption.Such is not a sustainable state of affairs.
@WorBlux First, please don't be so uptight... much of what I write is serious but also done in a sarcastic and humorous manner... just because something is important doesn't mean we have to lose our sense of humor. Second, I'm not interested in economics, and I'm trying to convince all of you to also stop... I am interested in sociology and I think we all need to be, since we're social beings. I am advocating automation to create surplus and to liberate people from a materialist perspective.
"dipshit", "Perverted idea", "ingeniousness" are not terms of humor, but of aversion, spite, vitriol, or hate. Of course such pathos is allowed in a good debate, but not as a main or primary point.
Robots at best are a labor multiplier. They only take instruction an do not think. They cannot match production to consumer desire within a monetary system and the direction of entrepreneurs. The only other alternative is a command economy.
@WorBlux You are seriously limiting your thinking if the only options available to you are monetary systems or command economies. Can't you see that a non materialist system is possible? Where no money is needed, but a system of cooperation and communal interest directed by the community? Forget Soviet / Chinese communism and use your creativity to think of alternates. By the way, "perverted argument". And the man was plainly wrong / misleading / confused, ie foolish or contemptible.
"And the man was plainly wrong" -You haven't shown it yet.
"Can't you see that a non materialist system is possible?" So are you going to pull food out of a vacuum? Your proposal is not an ascetic one, but rather is also a materialist system, promising materials of consumption to everyone. There are certainly creative methods by which commands may be issued, but they nonetheless remain commands.
The question remains how to determine the allocation of resource for production in such a way to bring satisfaction to consumers. This may be through the price system, with consumers acting to satisfy their most urgently felt wants first or the arbitrary commands of some person or group of persons. There is no third way.
@WorBlux I don't have the answers to all of your questions, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Capitalist system does not give a crap about your or society's interests / wants. There are products that society needs but capital cannot make profit on, so they go unmade. There are products that society does not need, but they are sold the products because capital makes a lot of money on them. Look, that 60M people starve to death is the sign that the system fails to serve humanity.
And there are yet more problems that you have not answered. At the time before the rise of capital 90% of Europeans were starving or on bad crop away from starving. Old people would wonder the countryside of England eating bark and grass. Also those places were starvation is most prominent are where the capital structures and markets are least prominent.
@WorBlux In reply: His libertarian stance is in direct contradiction to social evolution as small communities grow large; specialization (i.e. governance by specific persons) is inevitable because each of us has been unable to govern equitably without government. It's determined by the size of the society in question... 1000 people, a chief may be enough. 100000 people, multiple "observers" may be necessary. 10000000 people, you need an infrastructure.
@Ranger4564 In addition, Max Keiser actually disagrees with SM, that governments are bad. v=iQkTBWouySU at 8:50 on, Max explains what I argue, governments are necessary, they just have to be redesigned to be more effective. Furthermore, Max Keiser asked SM what Incentive would motivate people to produce in a future society where money is sidelined... 25:00... listen, Max is saying the capitalist system is failed, and that we need to redefine our society. It went right over SM's / your head.
Specialization or division of labor only arises from voluntary exchange by differences in opportunity costs among different individuals as compared through some market. In no case whatsoever have I known specialization of any kind to require monopolization. Governments as we know them have never arisen on this basis, but rather through acts of usurpation.
There is of course a demand for arbitration and protection services. This can be offered on a market without the need for a monopoly, the establishment of which would run counter to the desire and benefit of these services.
"they just have to be redesigned" So, hows that working our for you? Government by it's very nature is an institution of violent control.
Oh no virtual debt coming our way this time, net or phone users beware. Just don't click or press the wrong bottom or else you'll be in debt for the rest of your life.(×̯×). Obama's new laws to prevent any help from foreign countries, in the cleanup operation, is another deliberate attempt to worsen the situation in the Gulf.(•̪●)
first time I hear a Canadian talking some sense , Thanks Stephane I was a fan but now I am ten times more fan of what you do , I live in Canada and I really lose it when I hear Peter schiff or gerald Celente saying that this country has a great economy and they want to come here ..., Canada is ten times worse than the US...
Wow I've been a long time fan of both Max and Stefan Molyneux and when I saw a pale bald guy in the thumbnail, I thought, is that Stefan? And to my pleasant surprise it is.
the incentive is accountability, the incentive is self-respect, the incentive is high and noble thought and action, the incentive is humility before the divine, the incentive is to have your mother proud of what you did and not horrified, the incentive is the good. The incentive is decency. The incentive is belief - the opposite is disbelief and covering-up of the truth.
best keiser report yet, stefan talks so much sense its not true... though you would really need to check out his philosophies more deeply to understand them as this just barely touches on the problems of all governments & their sinister entanglements in economics...
this guy is an idiot, cos he blames government for everything. his anti-government rant only emphasizes his shortsighted analysis. does he know something which is called money trust, something that controlls the government.
btw this guy lies, he said that government has its own money, well the US government doesn't have soverign money, the money we use as the world's reserve currency (dollar) belongs to the groups of people that own the FED.
@yutuboslaven governments can print their own money & 0% interest and SHOULD, they dont though so instead central bankers make mega-bucks doing nothing, theyre the biggest leeches on the people and the state.. if governments did that there would be sovereign money... and the Federal Reserve bank is NOT federal its a private bank any US president that has tried to take back control of money from them has died, look into the facts, the civil war was fought over this issue
It can be argued that it's not even money, it's a debt instrument backed by the willingness of the U.S. government to steal your life and labor. The notes are legal tender for public debts, bear the signature and seal of the U.S. Treasuror, backed by the full faith and credit thereof. The money is controlled by the sentiments and detectives of the ruling administration. It is by at least some measure "theirs"
But this is all awfully esoteric for mainstream media.
@WorBlux blaming governments, by calling it statism, for what is being done behind the scenes by oligarchs is what I was picking up from Stefan. This is also behind what Ayn Rand is implying in Atlas Shrugged, and she was a mistress of a Rothschild. It does not require much imagination to work out things from there, particularly as one of her disciples was Alan Greenspan ......
Greenspan attended her meetings at one time, but was no disciple afterwards any more than a person who steal from the poor could be a disciple of Jesus. Check the lexicon on the gold standard "Gold and economic freedom are inseparable, . . . the gold standard is an instrument of laissez-faire and . . . each implies and requires the other."
There is no evidence that she ever met Phillip Rothschild, or even correspond with any Rothschild.
At best Greenspan played the role of Fransisco in the novel, but this like the mistress claim is baseless speculation.
And your language betrays your argument olig"arch". If there is a cabal or secret government controlling the public one it is in effect government. And the open government has been either unwilling or unable to stop it. In either case it is unfit to exist. Government by its very nature concentrates benefits and diffuses costs, is underhanded, self-dealing, and power-hungry.
welll, this is funny..
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FarmvilleTooCool 2 months ago
I made a post on a particular Stefan Molyneux you tube video upload. Since then I've been banned from posting on his uploads.
This leads me to believe that if you disagree with good ole' Stef on a subject then he will censor you.
I find this quite disturbing from a man who advocates the abolition of state.
mlmr11 8 months ago
I mean that is really legal for them
iisadoraf 10 months ago
bankerSS should kill themself
iisadoraf 10 months ago
CANADA IS BOOMING RICHEST NATION ON EARTH TODAY.AMERICA IS ALSO DOING VERY WELL.
amcanmike 1 year ago
@amcanmike Lolz we have over 20% unemployed and you say the US is doing well? We are doing poorly my friend. That's why I'm leaving. Follow the great exodus to Asia.
rehndawg 9 months ago
@rehndawg ha good luck,you will be back in to time, america is booming better than ever !
amcanmike 9 months ago
rape
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
I had a joint account with my mother without knowing and I deposited $1,400 and I did not know that she owed the bank. Is there anyway for me to get my money back? I heard that if they didn't take her to court they don't have the authority to take the money. They refunded me $700 of that and I am thinking they did that so I would take it and just accept them taking half. Someone please help me somehow.
AFd3693 1 year ago
Capitalism isn't crumbling. It's the mixed economy that is crumbling. It is the statist / fascist / socialist / farcist economy that is crumbling. Capitalism is the natural function of the free market, as in an unencumbered economy. We haven't had a truly free market for over a century, if ever. This is the end of farcist Keynesian economics -- the nonsense of planned economies.
EdgeMugga 1 year ago
@EdgeMugga Capitalism isn't crumbling , true. it's working fine. Capitalism is about concentrating wealth, resources and power in the hands of the few, this is happening. Capitalism is not designed to share wealth or promote social justice. The free-marketeers constantly arguing against government intervention. Government intervention is apparently fine when it's in the form of trillions of dollars to financial institutions to keep the market running smoothly. Time for a regime change.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta That is a fantasy. We have CORPORATISM, not capitalism. Corporatism, worse than socialism, which is control of the economy by the government, is the control and use of coercive state power for the sole purpose of corporations. Capitalism worked amazing well in the 19th century, INCREDIBLE feats of human ingenuity and innovation were popping up all over the place. We've had incredible technological revolution since then, but the wealth is vacuumed up to your masters.
Digali 1 year ago
@Digali Capitalism worked great in 19th century if you were in the elite of the powerful imperialist nations, for most people it sucked.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta And now socialism works great if your part of the elite of the powerful imperialist nations. For most people it sucks.
brewerscrew 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta For the record, the trillion dollar bailouts were HUGE MASSIVE, INCREDIBLE violations of the free market. Think about it for about. Try and wrap your head around the system man. Your corporate masters justified stealing, literally stealing, from you, at gunpoint (you will be arrested for tax evasion, and shot if you resist), trillions of dollars to maintain the wealthy. Then they blame capitalism and use to justify EVEN MORE control over your life. THINK MAN, we need you here.
Digali 1 year ago
@Digali , thanks for your response,We've got to stop this endless, out-of-control escalation of capitalism. An ideology predicated on infinite growth, demanding infinite growth, taking over government after government, with no real rivals since 1989... it is the virus that will kill the world, the virus with no cure, and the virus that only grows stronger with each disaster. The stupified world needs to wake up and be terrified. I think I might be in a different place to you.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta Think think think! We need all hands on deck. There will a very short window of time when the current system collapses and the global elite try to foist there new system of control, some think a world government, (new world order) after there have been enough wars and depressions that people will do anything to get them out of this. We need rational people like you who see that the system we have is NOT working. It has us fighting each other, my friend. THEY are the enemy.
Digali 1 year ago
@Digali , I agree we need all hands on deck. It's called socialism, better still anarchism, but definitely not capitalism.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta If socialism is the answer then why are all western countries in trouble? How can you blame individuals acting voluntarily when not one country in the world allows prices to be set through volunteerism? Socialism is class warfare, no peacefull society can be achieved where warfare is the ideology.
brewerscrew 1 year ago
@brewerscrew Not one western country is socialist. At least socialism has a government to keep the excesses of the private sector in check.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@Digali The government is always great at positioning themselves as the saviors while masking the fact that they are they problem.
Too many people are dependant on the gov't for their livelyhoods too, so the government can sit back while the slaves fight to support their masters.
GtheMVP 1 year ago
@EdgeMugga agreed, wholeheardetly, you are the voice of reason my friend. The state, the military industrial complex, it is all working for the benefit of the few. Even our ENTIRE monetary system is designed to benefit the already incredibly wealthy families that own our economy through the federal reserve, which is no more 'federal' than federal express. Nobody knows what really goes with our money, they won't let the government into their offices to audit. It's OUR money they are fiddling with
Digali 1 year ago
@Digali Thanks, for the boost. You have an interesting way of engaging others. I would have been more likely to say something like: Get up off your knuckles and fight like a human being, with reason and evidence. There are just so many people parroting all the Marxist slogans and bromides without thinking it through. It's nice to see someone else who can dazzle others with their footwork while they deliver the alley-oop.
EdgeMugga 1 year ago
CANADA IS BOOMING WE WILL SEE NEXT YEAR
amcanmike 1 year ago
bankers are the ultimate terrorists, islamic terrorists maybe kill 30 people on a good day, bankers starve millions through manipulation and corruption of governments
TheBlitz1 1 year ago
A Russian news channel that does nothing but talk about America... how ironic
marcdaddy33 1 year ago 2
THIS IS NOT TRUE CANADA IS VERY GOOD AND GOVERMENTS HAVE SAFER LENDING LAWS ALL IS WELL
amcanmike 1 year ago
@amcanmike you're funny.
celnuk 1 year ago
Stef - it was about damn time! Thumbs up.
603881 1 year ago 3
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stef fucking shit up as usual
t2491tom 1 year ago
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spudboyspud 1 year ago
Cool! 17k+ views in only 3 days. This should be on tyhe featured videos! Fuck youtube Australia! they put dogshit like fat aussie bastard and angry aussie, a couple of dickheads, when this is far more important.
TheTopBloke 1 year ago 11
Check out at 16 minutes - US housing prices were 5 times the average national income at the peak, and right now Canadian home prices are at 7.4 the national average income, or 50% higher than the U.S. was??? Holy crap, that is nuts!
BamaKattt 1 year ago
Fight terrorism: Shoot a banker!!
abe2517 1 year ago 20
@abe2517. Buy a silver coin. Much more effective and you won't land in prison.
1977Melville 1 year ago
Long live Max & Stacy!!
DragonYearJoji 1 year ago 3
@DragonYearJoji Yeah, this guys rock! I wish I had money back when he predicted gold was going to skyrocket! I am still bashing my head against the pointy corner of my desk...
paranoidnews 1 year ago 3
I LIVE IN CANADA AND WE ARE BOOMING BIG TIME SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS
amcanmike 1 year ago
@amcanmike We're just starting a real-estate bust the likes of our country has never seen before
WalkProp 1 year ago
@amcanmike yeah right.....BOOM!
flahr1 1 year ago
well if it get to the point of working for pennies ,I rather get organized and rob these crimals
iicce 1 year ago
China has some smart bankers !!!!!!!
acechoice45 1 year ago
Max, Please, when you ask a question, and the guest clearly misinterprets the question, slap the guest and reask the question. There is no point in hearing an erroneous nonanswer to an unasked question when you ask specific intelligent questions that deserve consideration and an appropriate response.
What will motivate people in a currency-less society of the future: Self Esteem, Curiosity and Personal Responsibility. We are brainwashed to ignore these to learn greed, but start with education.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 A currency is the will of the market, you would need violence in order to prevent the market from establishing one. So lets not go down this path.
fergus247 1 year ago
@fergus247 I don't specifically have a problem with using an intermediary for bartering. What I have a problem with is then creating an entire ecosystem around the actual device, instead of use of the device. There is no reason for accountants, lawyers, bankers, etc, if you actually limit the focus the device has in society. First and last, human satisfaction / gratification / comfort has to be the only imperative. We have so much potential for surplus, but the greed of some is killing us.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 There is no need to design society centrally. In fact, the only way you can do this is by using violence, which we can clearly see doesent work and is immoral
fergus247 1 year ago
And greed for lack of a better word is part of human nature. You are programmed to survive, to put yourself first before anyone else. This is why you behave nice toward people, because if you are angry all the time, no one will like you, and your survival rate goes down.... basically =)
My point is, its not use to begin working against "greed" and human nature, you need to come up with something that is compatible. And anarchy, complete freedom, is the answer.
fergus247 1 year ago
@fergus247 People like you keep saying that, but that's not completely accurate. Greed is a condition which afflicts A PART of SOCIETY. Not all human beings express or exhibit greed to the same extent, and not all human beings are greedy, they learn it through social conditioning. There is an equal number of people who are generous, but the greedy have skewed society to their rules, to their liking, to their bias. It's so fucking simple, I'm amazed it's that hard to see.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Look, think about it... 1 person is kind, 1 person is cruel... the cruel will always win, because the kind will be generous, and the cruel will take advantage / even kill the kind. Now multiply that to a civilization... the cruel have directed societies through conquest, oppression, brain washing, so on, but the world also has kind people. You just have to find the kind people and let them direct things, and treat the cruel as sociopaths and imprison them, not laud them.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 OK, so I am not well liked, because I am angry all the time, and I will not reproduce because no women want to be near an angry guy... that's why I'm frantically trying to get my message across to you guys, so I don't have to rely on my nonexistent kids to carry my generous message forward. ;)
Re intrinsic nature of greed, why do people work as Doctors / Red Cross, FEMA / rescuers, Fire Fighters, Soldiers, Police, Emergency Ambulance Paramedic? All kinds of good people / jobs.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 My point is, many people sacrifice themselves to save or help others. Just because the media and capitalists are so vocal about their ponzi scheme does not mean there are no kind / caring people on the planet. Most people are not selfish, but they're forced into that role by the society that exists. You are inverting the cause and effect. You claim we're selfish, so we have a greed based economy... I say, we are selfish because the greedy conquerors created a greed based system.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Listen, Einstein says exactly what I say... go search Google for Einstein, Why Socialism. Read the first couple of paragraphs. In it, he argues what I argue... the societies of today are the decendants of the conqueror / ruler / oppressive societies of the past. We created corrupt social structures because we are mentally and emotionally unhealthy, having endured the brutality of the rulers / kings / monsters who defined premodern civilizations. Just read it, it's short.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 I've read Einstein's essay. It is basically a lightweight amalgam of Marxism and Keynesianism, of course with a dose of Einstein's own admirable reasoning and good nature. However, there are several fallacies in his essay, and a few non-truths. For example, that technological development leads to unemployment under a capitalist system. This has shown to not be the case in the 50 years since he has been dead, and the 50 years before he wrote his essay. There are other flaws as well...
reefpirate 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Sorry, correction... I do not mean to say we are selfish because the greedy... I mean to say we exhibit selfishness because the greedy...
Difference is that one is an expression of a characteristic (something you are taught or pick up in society like smiling at strangers) while the other is a manifestation of a characteristic (something you express as part of your personhood like being talkative or inquisitive).
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 So when we have an entity like the state, an entity like the "modern" government. Who has the biggest incentive to control it? The kind or the cruel?
This is the absolute reason legitimising violence is not going to work. Because you will just have all the bad people flocking toward this power.
fergus247 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 You, and others on here, seem to have trouble with the meaning of the word greed. When someone like Ayn Rand says "Greed is good" it is not meant in the irrational sense, that I can steal and cheat as much as I like. Greed is good, implies that people want things and they should want things. Feeding your family, or working for the Red Cross as you put it, requires a level of greed in this way: you need resources to do these things. You need things you don't automatically start with.
reefpirate 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 For example, if we interpret greed in this broader sense, Amnesty International is greedy when they solicit donations from people. They need resources to do work, and so they appeal to private individuals' sense of charity to get these resources. Greed, in the pseudo-Marxist sense, is IRRATIONAL greed. Greed on its own is necessary for survival, or indeed for any sort of meaningful works, whether social or private. Do you follow?
reefpirate 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 I would like to argue that being generous is a greedy action in itself. Because being generous gives the generee something he values in return. Ie. a feeling of well being.
fergus247 1 year ago
@fergus247 Of course this based on people being generous not because they feel they have to, but rather because they want to. Which is how things should work. You dont have to do a damn thing :)
fergus247 1 year ago
I LOVE YOU STACEY! <3
BlackNapkins86 1 year ago
Informative segment, Max. I knew bits and pieces about the real crimes being committed by the globalists and I find your programs really help to flash out the details. Your guest made some excellent points... we are realistically looking at the possibility of having to establish an entirely new system of international commerce that puts the needs of the people first. Stacy is a great part of your team and I always enjoy hearing her news and views. Thanks for your efforts, Max.
brightsorcerer 1 year ago
Stefan Molyneux AKA @stefbot is fantastic! He is pretty much always spot on. Max should interview him more.
jaminunit 1 year ago
Yes! Voluntary solutions,
sharehard 1 year ago
@dialoguequent I really hope supporting Isreal become a american holocost, people only change when the consequences are the exact consequences of the entent. They will let the central bank give away money until inflation increases, spend money on military until it threatens security and do campaign finance reform when politians can't get money anymore.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
The guest accedentally contradicted himself when he said we have to recognize government has a gun in the room and it should put it down but then it should pick it up when it comes to his ideas of getting people out of the stock market.
NO! That is wrong people should be able to gamble pump up markets and screw other people. Why? So they the people who get screwed will not do it again! Sure there is a sucker born every minute but we can't take care of everyone via the government.
davincij15 1 year ago
@davincij15 First of all how do you not be a sucker seriously I want to know. Do you recommend putting money in bank accounts, government bonds, gold. They are all guaranteed to lose money, stocks CAN make money in the long run. Also I have a simple solution to curb excess trading, give one trading point per day. Everyone that day will set the price and everyone will get some sleep before the next trading time.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1
And I >CAN< make paper money playing blackjack but I don't, not because of some moral code but because I like to make things that people can use.
Then trade it for something of value like silver and gold thank you.
davincij15 1 year ago
@davincij15
"That is wrong people should be able to gamble pump up markets and screw other people. Why?"
People are driven to stock markets because it is really the only place where the average person can avoid takes. If you look at a graph of stock market investment vs GDP, you see a steady increase after retirement accounts with tax breaks were introduced.
WorBlux 1 year ago
I see the gun in the room everyone else does not.
davincij15 1 year ago
Stephan is a communist anarchist. He thinks people will do things without force or incentives, he doesin't understand people. I am happy about the "gun in the room" because I won't be shot but would like other to be "shot".
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 He's a philosopher first who operates from the non aggression principle. I think he understands that the solution is multi-generational and old thinking (my gun is bigger than yours) will have to die out as humanity matures.
DCLugi 1 year ago
@DCLugi He needs to answer the question what time will people wake up if they won't make money and nobody cares. People who check on people administrators will be the first to quit if they are not payed. Also society has matured, there is almost no chance of violence if you obey the laws and very few wars occur.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1
And I'm happy about the bank robbery last week because I'm am 10,000 dollars richer. That form of statement not an argument. It is merely a statement of preference.
You're either a troll or woefully ignorant. Considering your subscriptions and subscribers, I'm going with troll. Give me one video, book, or podcast where stef calls for the abolition of all money.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux If there is no taxes government can't pay people. He is not against money he's against government having money, an anarchist.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1
I understand and agree with that statement, though its at variance of your original claim that Stef is a COMMUNIST anarchist.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux I mean the government envisioned by Karl Marx, first a dictorial proletariate then utopia.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1
You've lost me. I'm not sure what your point is here.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux The Marxist utopia and the idea anarchist have is very similar.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1
The communist and individualist anarchist overlap in many ways. Both desire a peaceful and prosperous society where individuals are self-directed. Both involve an exploitation theory, though they diverge. The classification however should be based on the differences though.
I also apologize and retract my earlier judgment that you were a troll.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 Not sure why you think people won't be paid. Steph is 100% for people getting paid including himself. On his site he has plenty of information. He's not just talking for the sake of talking. As far as violence is concerned I suspect we have different definitions of the word. Any time anyone pays a tax it's because of violence.
DCLugi 1 year ago
@DCLugi That is a strange way of looking at taxation. It's not perhaps because we formed a society bigger than 1 individual, and in order to achieve social goals we had to fund the common agenda? How in god's name do you people condone marriage with this kind of logic? Do you make your spouses pay for their own stuff because you don't want to be taxed by their needs? It's the same damn thing, except the benefits are different, and the costs are different.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Ah, but marriage is "voluntary" and no one tells you who to marry it's a choice. If marriage worked the way government does you'd have the majority vote on who you should marry.
DCLugi 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 In marriage, usually the wife doesn't threaten the husband with imprisonment for not buying her stuff. Marriage is a voluntary relationship (usually, and I would say ideally). The relationship between a citizen and a state is involuntary, for the most part. Some voluntary interactions occur, but for the most part the state does not ask you politely for taxes, it demands them from the safe end of a barrel of a gun.
reefpirate 1 year ago
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den1s04ek 1 year ago
Max & Stephan! I've now experienced my moment of Zen! Thank you!
MrHolipsism 1 year ago
What is a bond?
Vamavid 1 year ago
@Vamavid A fixed interest issued by governments or banks
markocska94 1 year ago
@Vamavid i think its someting thats the opposite of intrest rates
giddygiddy85 1 year ago
@Vamavid
A piece of a loan in which the bondholder receives income in the form of interest.
rock3tcat 1 year ago
@dialoguequent copyright infringement lmao. Thumbs up!
Vamavid 1 year ago
complacent americans are accustomed to living with their uncomfortable sucking host. lately, these hosts have been steadily stacking. How do you make cancer uncomfortable to live with? that's how serious this all is. they're selling headstones!!!???
I love when 2 individuals like Stef and Max cross paths.
dentistsugardusty 1 year ago
Bravo for having Stephan on here!
This truly makes the Kaiser report a well rounded program.
Stacey and Max are a rare combo.
babaluto 1 year ago
They make a nice couple...... We have heard they are dating now......
Its about time!!
Have you ever watched how Stacy looks into Max's eyes? She has loved him from the first time he allowed her to sit next to him.....
Good move Max!
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DeathOfTheDollar2010 1 year ago
This show is great!
Sexymike86 1 year ago
I am continually amazed that people say "capitalism" when they mean government intervention. The word "capitalism" has been abused into uselessness, like "liberal" when what is meant is "progressive".
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So why was there no depression of 1921?
CurtHowland 1 year ago
Great ending commentary by Stephan
awhodatt 1 year ago 2
DO NOT TRUST ALEX JONES
EMOTIONS ARE USED TO PROGRAM US
ANYONE WHO IS EXESSIVLEY EMOTIONAL = NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!
Ben1607 1 year ago
@Ben1607 Amen on that!
usergently 1 year ago
Thank you Max Keiser, the truth wants out
fergus247 1 year ago
stefan moloneux makes this the best keiser report ever :D
1schwererziehbar1 1 year ago 2
Great interview Max. I'm glad you had Stephbot on the show. I agree that governments are to blame for millenia due to their hierarchal structure. However, it has to be said that religion, and markets have always had hierarchal attributes as well. As the great American anarchist Benjamin Tucker said you cant have a free society without abolishing the four monopoly's which are the land, tarriff, patent, and money monopoly's that hold back human innovation and the human yearning for liberty.
Alberto2382 1 year ago
everyone has a new car in canada, 0% financing....
solojam 1 year ago
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." ~ Thomas Jefferson
silversobe 1 year ago
@silversobe This guy was a statist you see. His motives are not to secure peoples wealth and wellbeing. It is to secure his own, through the power of the state. Take it from Molyneux, he is reliable in that he is interested in truth and has explored the ideas of statism for a very long time. Conclusion is always the same. It doesent work.
fergus247 1 year ago
if the population continues to believe there is no God, we are going to contiue to live in this corrupted economic system. The few christians that are out in the world need to quit working for the money masters. Its time to start living a truly richeous life. Our ultimate incentive should be to get to heaven.
ttideburger 1 year ago
Support Elizabeth Warren !!!!!!!
MrLukasart 1 year ago
the incentive is heaven.
ttideburger 1 year ago
i can bet you my house that that "suicide" bullet to the head that guy commited, wasnt a "suicide" at all
JayRocFly 1 year ago
Good Show and guests Max. $3.5 TRILLION CANADIAN DEBT!!!!! $116,000 for each Canadian!?!?!!!!
elucidative 1 year ago
"Perfect Citizen", "Patriot Act", "Financial Reform" all sounds harmless to me. With great names like that, how could they be fascist/totalitarian tools?
piecarbob 1 year ago
Great video!
bigdad06 1 year ago
The most perverted thing is the argument that we cannot afford the social programs because they cost too much. This is so disingenuous that I should not have to indicate why, but I will. Hello, dumb people of the world, WE DECIDE THE COST OF EVERY FUCKING THING ON THIS PLANET. We decide what something costs, in order to restrict access to that something, by the population. That is what COST means. So what this dipshit is really saying is that he really does not want people to be taken care of.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 We have constructed a society which restricts peoples access to somethings, by way of making them prohibitively expensive. But the whole reason they become so expensive is an ideological conundrum. You establish that you are not worthy and must work your ass off to acquire anything, you develop a system which blackmails you into working hard, as added bonus, the system reinforces scarcity to ensure your productivity, and we then cry that things cost too much. You people are sick.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 There is no reason we cannot take care of the elderly, the infirm, the poor, etc. The reason we do not, is because it's contradictory to the goals of the system. Taking care of people provides an incentive to be unproductive. BUT, the elderly already worked their asses off, and the infirm cannot work hard, and the poor are created by the transfer of wealth to the top... so these people don't need an object lesson, they need HELP.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 What said dipshit is really crying about, he doesn't even know. He's complaining that some sort of socialist trap has caught Canada in a vice... sorry, vise. But the fool doesn't evaluate whether the aims of the capitalist system he so dreams of has any merit to it as a SOCIAL STRUCTURE... because that's all commerce and economy are, social structures. We have all the technologies to create surplus, but we are intentionally creating deficit. Ask yourself why. CONTROL. That's why.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 The problem is not that everyone will have everything, that's a good thing for god's sake. The problem is, what do we do with people, and how do we motivate them to work. My point is, let them learn to be smart in school, let them pursue what they really want to do in life, let them research / produce / construct whatever they really want, and establish social structures that guide people to self development. Society will prosper by itself. No need for the stick / Shove the carrot.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 So, think about it some more. Why in the world would anyone create a social structure which goes around demeaning / depriving / tormenting the populace? It's because society was created by Sociopaths. Alexander the Great, Ghengis Kahn, Atilla the Hun, they were assholes, not great leaders... they killed people... if you ran into them, you'd either be dead or their slave. These people created the nobility, statehood, ownership. Just think outside the box. Peace.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 There's your problem, and your incentive Max, go get 'em.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 You seem like you want people to think in terms of some kind of Utopian society. To me, all that does is prompt people to focus on fantasy rather then reality. Reality means assholes will always exist and will always seek power and control. A society can only thrive amongst that if they are aware of that reality and remain vigilant.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 What you call reality, is just a brutalism that's unnecessary. What you call reality, is just 1 version that is possible. I wish you did not claim primacy to reality / human nature / correctness. You are claiming that the world exists in only 1 way. For the Last Time... Human Nature is not limited to assholes... human nature also includes compassion. Some are assholes, so let's put them in jail, not in the Boardroom. You are making society = lowest common denominator. Unappealing.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 I see the world with my eyes and mind not my heart. My heart is reserved for my state of being and my local community and my work. The world is many things, but one thing it has never been is "fair". You pine for a world that has never existed and will never exist because it would run contrary to the nature of this world, which is free Will. Love, by its very nature, will always submit to Will. Thus the drama ensues, as it does in Nature.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 So who will run these "Social Structures"? Are you a Zeitgeist fan?
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 I developed all of these ideas on my own, through 45 years of independent thinking. I did not watch Zeitgeist to learn how to think. Any similarity in my thinking and Zeitgeist thinking is purely coincidental. What it means is, there is some truth to what Zeitgeist and I are saying, because 2 or more different entities came to the same conclusion using similar logic and reasoning. I'm impressed.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 You ideology is just a logical extension of socialist/ communist ideas. Sounds nice on paper,....yet has no basis in reality. The same can be said of the second half of Zeitgeist: Addendum.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Bankster control of Gov isn't Capitalism, its Fascism.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 Yet, it's the corporations / capital that is raping the world. The irony is not escaping me. You are trying to blame Government for the moral corruption of the bankers / finance capital, while I am blaming capital. I don't know why you think the GOV is the source of the problem... they are just pawns. Capital would find another way to achieve what it wants, so stop the scapegoating and look at the real criminal, please.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Fascism is Corporate collusion within Gov. The monopolies and Gov are to blame. It takes two to tango. You sound blinded by your socialist/communist ideology.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 People need to learn how to help themselves and each other without the aid of Gov.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 People do already help themselves. The problem is, they help themselves to other people's possessions. I wish you understood what wealth is... it is a ratio, not an absolute. I wish you understood what profit is... take from someone, put in your pocket. I wish you knew what a non materialist egalitarian society was... Capitalism is take from the poor and give to the rich... just think about it deeply... it's not obvious at first sight.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Wealth is value gained through assets accrued through work. I have no problem with someone gaining more then I for being smarter and/or working harder. Wall St and the Fed Reserve facilitate Crony-Capitalism/Mercantilism/Fascism. The US had 0% inflation for 100 years because the Market wasn't dominated by Wall St, fiat currency, and Gov sponsored Monopolies. Tribal peoples were somewhat egalitarian, but they're all dead now.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 Are you seriously trying to suggest that the only time capitalism has caused problems around the world has been in the past 100 years? You really need to step out of the box you're in and look at the world and some of the most prominent critics of capitalism, to see the true history. Imperialism is part of capitalism, might, greed, oppression, self interest, amorality, division of society, distaste for the opposing party in the competitive setting. Capital works against humanity.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 Just think of it this way. Capitalism prospers through limited supply and high demand. That alone should tell you, people will suffer. It's a system based on deficiency (not enough) and it will not make more than is profitable. I think we can stop because we're not convincing each other, and I don't have the energy. I just point these things out, and people who understand them can learn to think differently. People who don't, well there is nothing to do but let them live their lives.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 No one should expect Gov to take care of them.
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 I'm not, I'm expecting you to. The Government is there just to make sure you do. :)
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 To make sure I do under threat of force maybe?
rawtheory333 1 year ago
@rawtheory333 It was a joke. Relax. I was serious throughout the rest of what I wrote, but I'm under threat to perform for this society now.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564
Caps locks, insults and cursing, what an elegant argument. But you have not grasp on economics.
The function of money is to allow indirect exchange of real things. These programs require real materials, labor, and capital much of which could potentially be used in other endeavors. When these factors are diminished faster than they can be replaced, the result is capital consumption.Such is not a sustainable state of affairs.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux First, please don't be so uptight... much of what I write is serious but also done in a sarcastic and humorous manner... just because something is important doesn't mean we have to lose our sense of humor. Second, I'm not interested in economics, and I'm trying to convince all of you to also stop... I am interested in sociology and I think we all need to be, since we're social beings. I am advocating automation to create surplus and to liberate people from a materialist perspective.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564
"dipshit", "Perverted idea", "ingeniousness" are not terms of humor, but of aversion, spite, vitriol, or hate. Of course such pathos is allowed in a good debate, but not as a main or primary point.
Robots at best are a labor multiplier. They only take instruction an do not think. They cannot match production to consumer desire within a monetary system and the direction of entrepreneurs. The only other alternative is a command economy.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux You are seriously limiting your thinking if the only options available to you are monetary systems or command economies. Can't you see that a non materialist system is possible? Where no money is needed, but a system of cooperation and communal interest directed by the community? Forget Soviet / Chinese communism and use your creativity to think of alternates. By the way, "perverted argument". And the man was plainly wrong / misleading / confused, ie foolish or contemptible.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
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@Ranger4564
"And the man was plainly wrong" -You haven't shown it yet.
"Can't you see that a non materialist system is possible?" So are you going to pull food out of a vacuum? Your proposal is not an ascetic one, but rather is also a materialist system, promising materials of consumption to everyone. There are certainly creative methods by which commands may be issued, but they nonetheless remain commands.
WorBlux 1 year ago
The question remains how to determine the allocation of resource for production in such a way to bring satisfaction to consumers. This may be through the price system, with consumers acting to satisfy their most urgently felt wants first or the arbitrary commands of some person or group of persons. There is no third way.
WorBlux 1 year ago
and back the point you've ignored. Capital consumption, and that the spending signifies a real expenditure of goods and materials.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux I don't have the answers to all of your questions, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Capitalist system does not give a crap about your or society's interests / wants. There are products that society needs but capital cannot make profit on, so they go unmade. There are products that society does not need, but they are sold the products because capital makes a lot of money on them. Look, that 60M people starve to death is the sign that the system fails to serve humanity.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564
And there are yet more problems that you have not answered. At the time before the rise of capital 90% of Europeans were starving or on bad crop away from starving. Old people would wonder the countryside of England eating bark and grass. Also those places were starvation is most prominent are where the capital structures and markets are least prominent.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux In reply: His libertarian stance is in direct contradiction to social evolution as small communities grow large; specialization (i.e. governance by specific persons) is inevitable because each of us has been unable to govern equitably without government. It's determined by the size of the society in question... 1000 people, a chief may be enough. 100000 people, multiple "observers" may be necessary. 10000000 people, you need an infrastructure.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564 In addition, Max Keiser actually disagrees with SM, that governments are bad. v=iQkTBWouySU at 8:50 on, Max explains what I argue, governments are necessary, they just have to be redesigned to be more effective. Furthermore, Max Keiser asked SM what Incentive would motivate people to produce in a future society where money is sidelined... 25:00... listen, Max is saying the capitalist system is failed, and that we need to redefine our society. It went right over SM's / your head.
Ranger4564 1 year ago
@Ranger4564
Specialization or division of labor only arises from voluntary exchange by differences in opportunity costs among different individuals as compared through some market. In no case whatsoever have I known specialization of any kind to require monopolization. Governments as we know them have never arisen on this basis, but rather through acts of usurpation.
WorBlux 1 year ago
There is of course a demand for arbitration and protection services. This can be offered on a market without the need for a monopoly, the establishment of which would run counter to the desire and benefit of these services.
"they just have to be redesigned" So, hows that working our for you? Government by it's very nature is an institution of violent control.
WorBlux 1 year ago
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LMIMSsoi 1 year ago
That's great... As I see it human beings have corrupted consciousness. Greed etc... We need to get a new consciousness based on harmony.
iszoj 1 year ago
meanwhile I went to the grocery store today and they had big fat signs saying EBT and WIC are not working nationwide
1x93cm 1 year ago
Stef & Max ! My 'dream team'.
Check out volunteerism and leave statism far behind :-)
nanciqwerty 1 year ago 2
Oh no virtual debt coming our way this time, net or phone users beware. Just don't click or press the wrong bottom or else you'll be in debt for the rest of your life.(×̯×). Obama's new laws to prevent any help from foreign countries, in the cleanup operation, is another deliberate attempt to worsen the situation in the Gulf.(•̪●)
elite1980s 1 year ago
I don't think you can get rid of stock market. But you can rewrite rules and regulate it better. Like no naked short selling no speculation etc
check this vid out: "101 East - South Korea: Caught in the web" (about S. Korean youth internet gaming addiction.
overseachininadoll 1 year ago
keiser for president(USA).
watersings 1 year ago
first time I hear a Canadian talking some sense , Thanks Stephane I was a fan but now I am ten times more fan of what you do , I live in Canada and I really lose it when I hear Peter schiff or gerald Celente saying that this country has a great economy and they want to come here ..., Canada is ten times worse than the US...
TechTVChannel 1 year ago 2
Tireless Max deserves the peace AND economics Nobel price (and freedom if there was one) .
lithophiliac 1 year ago
Wow I've been a long time fan of both Max and Stefan Molyneux and when I saw a pale bald guy in the thumbnail, I thought, is that Stefan? And to my pleasant surprise it is.
MethMojimbo 1 year ago
i heart the canadian news... Stefan Molyneux: "DUDE, what's up with that!?!" or whatever colloquialism he used. SO Canadian. :)
weylondobranski 1 year ago
Oh, Canada! British stooges! Wait a minute, so are we.....lol
clearasvodka 1 year ago
the incentive is accountability, the incentive is self-respect, the incentive is high and noble thought and action, the incentive is humility before the divine, the incentive is to have your mother proud of what you did and not horrified, the incentive is the good. The incentive is decency. The incentive is belief - the opposite is disbelief and covering-up of the truth.
saqiya 1 year ago
Was that Fluctuation ..or fluc the nation mmmm!!!
benytink 1 year ago
best keiser report yet, stefan talks so much sense its not true... though you would really need to check out his philosophies more deeply to understand them as this just barely touches on the problems of all governments & their sinister entanglements in economics...
djdnauk1977 1 year ago
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this guy is an idiot, cos he blames government for everything. his anti-government rant only emphasizes his shortsighted analysis. does he know something which is called money trust, something that controlls the government.
btw this guy lies, he said that government has its own money, well the US government doesn't have soverign money, the money we use as the world's reserve currency (dollar) belongs to the groups of people that own the FED.
max has chosen an idiot to speak with.
yutuboslaven 1 year ago
@yutuboslaven governments can print their own money & 0% interest and SHOULD, they dont though so instead central bankers make mega-bucks doing nothing, theyre the biggest leeches on the people and the state.. if governments did that there would be sovereign money... and the Federal Reserve bank is NOT federal its a private bank any US president that has tried to take back control of money from them has died, look into the facts, the civil war was fought over this issue
djdnauk1977 1 year ago
@yutuboslaven
It can be argued that it's not even money, it's a debt instrument backed by the willingness of the U.S. government to steal your life and labor. The notes are legal tender for public debts, bear the signature and seal of the U.S. Treasuror, backed by the full faith and credit thereof. The money is controlled by the sentiments and detectives of the ruling administration. It is by at least some measure "theirs"
But this is all awfully esoteric for mainstream media.
WorBlux 1 year ago
@WorBlux blaming governments, by calling it statism, for what is being done behind the scenes by oligarchs is what I was picking up from Stefan. This is also behind what Ayn Rand is implying in Atlas Shrugged, and she was a mistress of a Rothschild. It does not require much imagination to work out things from there, particularly as one of her disciples was Alan Greenspan ......
remfrancis 1 year ago
@remfrancis
Greenspan attended her meetings at one time, but was no disciple afterwards any more than a person who steal from the poor could be a disciple of Jesus. Check the lexicon on the gold standard "Gold and economic freedom are inseparable, . . . the gold standard is an instrument of laissez-faire and . . . each implies and requires the other."
There is no evidence that she ever met Phillip Rothschild, or even correspond with any Rothschild.
WorBlux 1 year ago
At best Greenspan played the role of Fransisco in the novel, but this like the mistress claim is baseless speculation.
And your language betrays your argument olig"arch". If there is a cabal or secret government controlling the public one it is in effect government. And the open government has been either unwilling or unable to stop it. In either case it is unfit to exist. Government by its very nature concentrates benefits and diffuses costs, is underhanded, self-dealing, and power-hungry.
WorBlux 1 year ago