Y all the athiest comments full of so much Hate??? Y all the christians prepared for a lashing? Y did satan delete a great "Message"....All to discredit God... Now aways days my mind is in cage, War,genocide,lies,this world is full of rage... Theres a world that exist without a mention of the word God....It's called Hell......(conscious thoughts) to be honest if your cup runth over,what can you learn....to a cup half full...somehow i am still thirsty...
So why did they (and I would like to know who made the decision and why) leave that obvious falsehood in? We're not UNDER God, btw. God permeates everything.
Of course, it's more controversial when you make the decision to change something as it is written. The idea that the mention of God is controversial is a sad commentary on these times.
Um I hope you all know that the original Pledge of the Allegiance didn't have "under god" in it? Yeah... also, wouldn't it be more controversial if they did leave that line in? I mean it's controversial enough how students (both religious and non-religious) have to say that line. I'm agnostic and I think that people should respect non-religious people as they respect them. Seriously.
Under God, who was responsible for them words, catholic knights of Columbus? They want to divide the country, all know America stands for freedom, for the religious and for the non religious, but what do the knights of Columbus stand for, a catholic America of church and state, elegance to the Vatican and Rome, wake up America dig deep into your history find out how Old Abe was killed, look up the first woman hanged in America, find out WHY.
Why!! Why did they cut out Under God, thats not fucking american, they should keep "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, Atheist shouldn't try to out law that, Christians and other religions didn't try to out law "Evolution" because we all understand that it's the law of teaching children that topic in schools. Evolution we think that and always is a disprovement on God. F.Y.I. God is real!! even if some of you don't believe me. So...KEEP "UNDER GOD" IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!!
@albokk - Actually, atheism and agnosticism are perfectly legitimate points of view. Amazingly, you very seldom see atheists advocating for war, violence of any kind ..... or "hating" other people for their personal beliefs. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
@JLE102191 Christians are the ones who re-wrote the pledge of allegiance. Learn some history, or at least read what a lot of other people are saying here, that the pledge of allegiance originally didn't have "under god" in it, and it was added much later in the 1950's.
@JLE102191 - The Pledge of Allegiance has been rewritten four times, the most recent in 1954 when the words "under God" were inserted in the Pledge ... probably as a nod to the Joe McCarthy era and the "godless Communist threat". When I first learned the Pledge of Allegiance, "under God" wasn't in it.
that kind of "mentality" comes from people who will bring violence. not unlike terrorists who say "western influence will ruin this country and that is a FACT." so you and the terrorists obviously need to chill out.
@Sk82beast do you know why we are the greatest country on Earth? it is because of our deep rooted tradtitions that have been passed down many generations. We were founded upon this idea and will continue to be for a long time. You liberals absolutley loooovvveeeee fuckin this country over. keep it up
@Cannondale900 America is the greatest country on Earth? How so? What are you basing that on? "Greatest" isn't an intrinsic property of the United States. Not to mention "greatest" is relative.
But what traditions do we have that make America so great?
@Cannondale900 We weren't founded on this idea at all. This phrase was introduced to our pledge of allegiance in the 50s as a response to the red scare. If you mean the deep rooted tradition of hating communists was passed on to us, then yes, you are correct.
I am solidly anti organized religion. Believe what you want in private, then it doesn't bother me. But I am a patriot and take offense to any altering of the Pledge. Their omission of "under god" doesn't bother me so much, but for some reason it still does a little, just because they altered it -- I hate revisionists.
However, their omission of "INDIVISIBLE" -- now THAT's infuriating !! I would expect the entire team who was responsible for this be sent to the long unemployment line.
why ? it's artistic license. it's a video package involving editing. it's not like they're filming a class of students live, and then cut them off before saying under god or indivisible. and our original pledge rightfully did not have under god in it. you should be upset that it was revised decades ago. as if every american citizen believes in a deity. what a joke.
"Basically ... out of all the ridiculous religion stories which are greatly, wonderfully ridiculous — the silliest one I've ever heard is, 'Yeah ... there's this big giant universe and it's expanding, it's all gonna collapse on itself and we're all just here just 'cause ... just 'cause'. That, to me, is the most ridiculous explanation ever."
if someone says to you " just cause...just cause " then it doesn't sound like they know what they're talking about. its the same thing of saying, just have faith, just believe, it's his will.
I'm an atheist. At my High School we say the pledge every morning. I say:
"I pledge of allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
What happens when you delete a foundation from a house? It crumbles. What happens when you omit a country's foundation? It crumbles. God was this nations foundation from the beginning.
no you're wrong, read the treaty of tripoli. and read the part of the constitution that prohibits our nation from taking an official religion. believe history. in these matters actual history is better than being brain washed by a pastor or a politician.
@mojp7 The United States was founded on democracy and liberty, not on gods, devils or religion, as the Religious Right claims in its effort to turn America into a theocracy.
@pwnUgood Congress July 4 1776: "...the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." OUR FOUNDATION. Do your homework son
I don't use "under God" in the Pledge, either. It is inappropriate to exclude non-believers or imply that the nation is founded on a particular religion.
@trumpetmaner The word "God" was put into the Pledge in 1954 as a direct reference to the Christian God, and the protests against NBC for omitting it come exclusively from right-wing Christians who are promoting the propaganda lie that America was founded on their particular religion, and that their beliefs-- anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-science, anti-atheist, etc. should be enacted into law. Your charade fools no one.
@pwnUgood But if you would have brushed up on your history a little better, then you would know that the United States WAS founded on a Christian basis. Not bashing anyone who is not Christian, but I'm just saying. I agree everyone has freedome of religion but this IS how it was.
if we were talking about something like slavery and you were in favor of that, you could use this same argument. really, since the original constitution allowed slavery for a time. you could still say " this IS how it was. " i mean did you know that the u.s. constitution prohibits congress from establishing a religion to our nation ? if we were founded on a christian basis, i imagine our nation would be established as a christian nation. but we weren't, so we aren't
@TheOnePistol America was founded specifically as a secular democracy, not a "Christian nation". Those who claim otherwise have fallen for right-wing propaganda. The founders were from generally white, Christian, Anglo-Saxon backgrounds but took pains to prevent the nation from being based on that or any other religion, guaranteeing rather that all religions are equally protected by law from dominance by others. You do history a disservice by spreading the "Christian nation" lie.
@TheOnePistol "Under God" was not in the original Pledge of Allegiance, but got stuck in there by some anti-Communist crusaders in the 1950s. It wasn't an issue until the Christian Rightists tried to use that as evidence that America is a "Christian nation" -- a historical falsehood. For that reason, we should go back to the original wording. Atheists are loyal Americans too.
IF ANYONE HERE DOESNT THINK GOD IS REAL THEN TAKE A LOOK FOR YOUR SELF AND TYPE IN (23 MINUTES IN HELL!!!) AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME THEN SORRY TO SAY BUT THATS WERE YOUL BE GOING!
i dunno. maybe somebody felt like through artistic liberty, they can remind us that every american is not christian, every american does not believe in a deity and it's wrong to force us to repeat a pledge with a deity wedged in there. especially when the constitution forbids our nation from taking an official religion.
Why cant us Christians and you atheists just go our separate ways and quit arguing about whats true are not......let Christians be Christians and let atheists be atheists. Maybe everyone will be more happy. I don't hate atheists and i don't dislike them as people, but i do dislike their beliefs, just as they dislike my beliefs. And i'm okay with that. We Christians are not the ones to force God upon people, were just the ones to share God's word....... more of us Christians need to realize that.
The original pledge, written by Francis Bellamy in 1892 didn't include the words, "under God". They were added in 1954. Bellamy was a Christian socialist, who wanted to add the words "equality and fraternity", but that wouldn't have been accepted by the Christian leaders of education in that day who didn't support equality of women or African Americans. So, to summarize, the pledge is the work of a socialist who couldn't mention equality because religious leaders would have rejected it. Hmm.
@charadester The guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance was a Socialist? So what? So what does that prove? Does that make everyone who repeats the Pledge a socialist as well? Lester Maddox was a Democrat. Does that make all Democrats segregationists?
They also cut out "indivisible". another important part of the pledge that says we will not let anything divide our country again. Yes, everyone has differences of opinion, but we won't let that tear the country apart, or other countries that may try it either. The pledge was changed to include "under God, indivisible" for a reason - that's who we are. Taking God out of our schools & country is only going to bring us down. Altering our national pledge of allegiance should be forbidden.
@Little70Red Yes, it should have been forbidden to add "under god." What brings us down is all the BS and hatred that some religious people spew. Religion is a cancer to this world. As long as religion is around, so will religious wars.
It's hard to believe that so many folks have been scammed and can't see it.
@Little70Red I am not "under god." I don't live by fairy tales told by goat herders thousands of years ago. I think for myself and take responsibility for my actions.
Thank you, NBC, for making the pledge a little bit closer to the way it was originally written by Francis Ballamy in 1892. Let's all keep pressure on Congress to drop the "under God" nonsense that was added in 1954. When that happens, all Americans - believers and unbelievers alike - can recite the pledge with sincerity.
WE always knew NBC and all the other media are TRUE EVILworkshops. MEDIA are only paid gov. mouthpieces and Satan worshippers-why should NBC's fear of God surprise us-their corp culture is so indebted to Satan they MUST scurry like roaches when they are faced with the concept of God. NBC even Omitted the word "GOD" from their apology-NBC should be Boycotted from our Sight!
@procritic09 So? This IS a predominantly Christian nation, so if you don't like it here, too bad for you. Just GET THE FCUK OUT, and take our Mudslime "president" with you.
Holy Trinity; Supreme Court: "These and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."
“It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ" - Patrick Henry
@procritic09 No, that is NOT true. There is no "separation of Church and State" in the Constitution. Read it for yourself - that is, AFTER you and your Mudslime "president" GET THE FCUK OUT.
The original statement by francis Bellamy was "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"
@AllNightLong3333 "well if you say "Christians are stupid" then guess your saying that 78.4% or ALL Americans are stupid too?"
I find it quite impossible that there are so many Christians in an advanced and highly educated society.
It's more likely that there is a large percentage of closet atheists, and another large percentage refer to themselves as Christians to avoid social problems in your society.
@saintpine You clearly haven't looked at the census results for 2010. AllNightLong3333 is correct actually. Go online and check the results. You only assume that it is likely that most of the US population is atheistic.
Yeah 'cause republicans don't watch porn, they don't get drunk, they don't do drugs, and they don't go to war . . . American double standard, American double morals
The majority of people believe in a God of some sort. So the people who dont believe in God should not be offended when God is used in our pledge of allegance right 9pt9? Or should we conform to your belief of their is no God? That is also a faith based system.
Not that I want it to come to that. I would prefer people make their own choices of what to believe. But beliefs, religions, are being forced on people, on children before they have the comprehension to understand what is going on(like the Pledge of Allegiance), often by parents who bring their very young children to church every Sunday, thus indoctrinating them to the church system. It is truly unfortunate. Churches are great, beacons of community. But shoving religion upon others is wrong.
@AStandsForFrench But I don't believe it's just my belief. I believe it's reality and I have have good grounds to believe so. So I'm compelled to share the gospel so that others can be saved. I became a Christian as an adult. I was a science major in college and was an atheist. All I
Can say is read the gospels with an open heart. There is a way that is right.
@9pt9 THAT IS YOUR BELIEF. It is NOT everyone's belief. Stupid forcing it on others, you zealot. So you are obligated to spread the word. This is exactly what I am saying. You are preaching, do you stop when someone says they are not interested, or do you press on in order to save that person?
I had enough of the bible and all the worthless shenanigans it entails from almost a decade of church, thanks. I was Christian but became atheist, the opposite of you.
@AStandsForFrench I know its my belief and I don't force it on others. How can you force someone into loving you or being friends with u?? If you think the Bible is "worthless" than you face the consequences if there are any. Bye.
I will pray for you. I once believed all the thing that you mentioned. Until the faith in the Rightueos LORD saved me. For my brothers and sisters of who have faith in the Jesus and our Gracious GOD, Wear Gods Armor.
Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, lean not on our own understandings, submit to him in all your ways and he will make you paths straight. God bless
@RightouesPath2011 All it shows is that you probably suffered some incredible tragedy and were too weak to stick by your original beliefs through them, so you resorted to converting to Christianity.
Go try praying for people of other faiths/nonfaiths in person the way you are online and see how long it takes for someone to beat the shit out of you. Shouldn't take long. I'd love to see how the "armor of god" protects you then.
Have nothing to do with foolish or ignorant conversation, it only breeds quarrels. The lords servant must not be quarrelsome but be kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil.
@RightouesPath2011 See, you are an obnoxiously pushy zealot. Claiming anything not Christian is evil. Disregard anything I say. Constantly put your own agenda first. Do not respect any wishes to stop praying for or trying to convert others. You are subhuman trash, utterly brainwashed, little more than a marionette for the church. Truly, nothing holds the human race back more than backwards religion that spurns education of the world.
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil.
@9pt9 That's what I'm saying, that's the stuff that pisses people off. YOU BELIEVE THIS. Not everyone. You. Christians. By your belief, you spread your gospel to people who do not want to hear it. Knowing that there is nothing past death's a scary prospect, so the weak of will cling to a belief that there is something more past the now, because the alternative is terrifying.
And I have a very good reason to want an afterlife. But my beliefs are my will, I would fight to the death for them.
Why do people misquote the Treaty of Tripoli? This is the full text from the treaty: "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion as it has in itself no character of enmity [hatred] against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] and as the said States [America] have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinion
@2010GOP The Treaty of Tripoli, in article 11, states: " the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." This was signed by John Adams and unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797
Who cares? Flag worship is stupid to begin with. The pledge was written by avowed socialist Francis Bellamy. No freedom loving individual should be spouting it off to begin with. Furthermore, this country was FOUNDED on the idea that people have the right to sever ties with an oppressive government. Why would you WANT to imply that your country is indivisible and you no longer have the right to secede?
And I don't like the implication that America is somehow Godly. My God is a loving god...
We can always talk nonsense to ourselves for our ego, for an imaginary invisible friend created us from nothing in 6 days, he blessed (?) us all with a magic spell, and loves us all, even the worst pedophiles and mass murderers , But you must believe this bullshit without any evidence.
@RightouesPath2011 pushy Christians are truly loathsome creatures, how proud you are, to think we must be "saved" instead of leaving well enough alone. It is not your duty to save people. That is the problem with modern Christians, they feel the need to force their "salvation" upon anyone of another faith, or no faith at all. It is oppressive and disgusting.
@AStandsForFrench "pushy Christians"? We never push ourselves on others bc God can't be forced on people. We share the message of the gospel. That ALL are sinners and are separated from God. The ONLY way back to God is Christs sacrifice on the cross. It's not always a popular message bc some people won't admit they are sinners. This is why christianity is "oppressive & disgusting" to you. I KNOW I'm a sinner. I'm no better than you.
@9pt9 "It's not always a popular message bc some people won't admit they are sinners. This is why christianity is "oppressive & disgusting" to you. I KNOW I'm a sinner. I'm no better than you."
Oh please, on your scale, I have no problems of admitting that I'm a sinner, who fucking cares it doesn't cause me any problem, and I’m not going to rape my intelligence and dignity for disgusting and oppressive Christianity with all it's insane stupidity.
@saintpine Sin does affect your life and it hurts others. "rape your intelligence and dignity"? "oppressive christianity"?? Everything in the bible is good and leads to healthy moral living . Everything. "insane stupidity" lol, the Bible encourages education and acquiring knowledge. You are woefully off base bro. Pray.
"Everything in the bible is good and leads to healthy moral living "
Read it, it's nowhere near tacking into the slightest consideration.
"You are woefully off base bro. Pray"
Go ahead and waste your time on this nonsense if it makes you happy, I've had quite enough of it, I wish it Christianity had never crossed my life, but anyway there’s hope it gets ridiculed into the myths section of the library.
@saintpine Ah but it already has crossed ur life as it will everybodys. One day you'll be glad when life circumstances beckon you back to the Lord. Enjoy yours sins now but remember you'll be reaping the whirlwind soon enough. And as history has shown, the bible will never enter the dust bin of history. Goodbye & God bless you.
@9pt9 "Enjoy yours sins now but remember you'll be reaping the whirlwind soon enough. And as history has shown, the bible will never enter the dust bin of history. Goodbye & God bless you"
Fuck your threats, it doesn't make me uneasy, don't worry Christianity will die out, in my country Italy it will be the minority in less than 20 years.
Atheism is growing fast and soon you will have people laughing at you all over the place.
Goodbye and remember satan loves you and want to save you from god.
God says to curb our tongues. we should not judge because The rightues LORD is the only judge. wrath on one another only brings wrath. Spead peace and PRAY for those who have been decieved and that they find comfort in JESUS......OUR ONLY SALVATION.
@AllNightLong3333 "Psalm 53:1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and their ways are vile; there is no one who does good."
It's only a fool that thinks they can say something in the heart, It’s only a pump without any intelligence of its own.
So that ignorant desert dweller mistakenly took the increase of the heart pump rate for something that the heart expressed on its own, whoever wrote this verse was a fool, and whoever propagates foolish messages is a fool.
How cute of you sweetheart, when you take that dummy out of your mouth, please let these fairy tales go, together with Santa clause and the tooth fairy, it's going to be tough in the start but I'm sure you can substitute them with new toys like dildo's or inflatable dolls.
I'm a Christian but, Atheists tend not to do any research.
What Atheists say: "It's ridiculous to suggest there isn't or hasn't been any superior beings to us."
What I Say: "But there's evidence of ghosts, evidence of all sorts of paronormal and supernatural activities happening the world. Atheists just don't look into stuff like that. You people do have to explain things." Jesus is known as the "Holy Ghost"......... honestly iv'e experienced paranormal activity. Believe it or not. IDC
@AllNightLong3333 all you need to do it bash another religion that is not part of your religion. not to mention all the "christians" who bash all the sects that "aren't true christians", rofl.
@l337pwnage well that's not what i do due to the fact that all the Jews, Muslims, and Christians BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD AND SHARE THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS of the OLD TESTAMENT and i never bash Judaism because Jesus was the King of the Jews and they are Gods Choose People. The Islamic people follow a Profit named Muhammad who was one of Father Abraham's Sons (No not the president Abraham) says it all in the Bible.
But why do you ONLY bash Christianity? Why not the other Two? I bash u cuz u bash us!
@AllNightLong3333 I'm an equal opportunity destroyer. I've pissed off muslims too, and a few jews, but I haven't met many jews that I know of, though.
And, it this case, it is only christians, that I know of, who are bitching about NBC's rather obvious "unintentional mistake". And nobody is claiming that the U.S. is "a muslim nation", although I really don't think anyone can argue the fact that the jews are who is REALLY running the U.S. ;p
So have I experienced paranormal activities for years before my rationalty convinced me that it was bullshit.
So already at the age of 15, one night while I was panicking because someone was touching me and breathing loud, I stood up to face him, but there was nothing, it took me about a year to not have these experiences anymore.
Once I kicked Mr Jesus and all other nonsense out of my life, I've lived a wonderful 35 years since.
@AllNightLong3333 Have fun getting invaded, raped to death and your freshly decapitated head skinned and stuck on a pike by Zetas when the mexican drug war eventually completely overruns the border and floods into Texas.
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.
Let Gods word do the talking.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
I have joined, along with all family members, all our neighbors (13 homes) and all but one friend the boycott of all nbc programs, news or anything to do with the network altogether. We also will be helping to get letters and email to all sponsors of programs and urge them to finish up contracts and never under any circumstances advertise there again. Products and embarrassed companies over this are not to blame. If you have cable or satellite, simply go to channel options and remove nbc.
Unbelievably disgusting that you would even say that. Is your patriotism really that conditional.
And how would this country fall apart without the Christian god if it's already falling apart with the Christian god in full control. 90% of the population adhering to Christian tenets for over 200 yrs yet things are only getting worse. Hate break this to you....but Christianity ain't working!! It has failed!! and so has your god!!
@nosajj12345 True Patriotism is born out of christianity. USA is deteriorating in direct proportion to the rate at which we forsake our CHRISTIAN VALUES. God isn't failing, we are. The bible has already warned us in advance what happens to nations that forsake the Lord. Pray for revival or bye bye freedom!
@9pt9 Hahahaha talk about bullshit. It's pathetic. Just like the terrifying people who are actually in charge of things in Texas and what, Pennsylvania? Or something? Some dumbshit mayor and the governor of Texas who both are literally asking people to "pray away our budget woes". Seriously.
There is no more condemnable waste of time than prayer. It allows you to feel like you've done something to help someone, without actually doing anything, thus plenty of Americans readily perform it.
@9pt9 " True Patriotism is born out of christianity. USA is deteriorating in direct proportion to the rate at which we forsake our CHRISTIAN VALUES"
You are so obtuse and delusional its frightening.
You are claiming the millions of American patriots who are not Christian, but of another faith or of non belief, don't qualify as patriots no matter how much they love their country. This country was built on the sweat and ingenuity of people of different beliefs, not only Christians. WAKE UP!
@9pt9 Oh, The Religious Right is doing a good enough job of sending America down the shitter in the name of "god" as it is, the best thing that could happen is for religion to be thrown out the window in the name of education and science. But it won't happen, because Americans Are Idiots. It's in the Constitution even, that Americans have to be Fucking Retards At All Times. Amen.
@AStandsForFrench Lol religion and God ARE being thrown out. Can't you see? Look at this video. You are getting your wish. Now watch the deterioration. See what good your hopeless, atheistic, moral relativism will bring America. And "education & science" have always been the Christians best friend.
@9pt9 Shortly after the video, the rabid religious right threw such a hissy fit that NBC pussed out.
When I say education, I do not mean of the bible. When I say science, I do not mean of Creationism.
And what will my hopeless, atheistic, moral relativism bring? A few less words in a fascistic, creepy "pledge of allegiance"? Did you ever stop to think how weird it is, to stand in school and repeat a chant, EVERY DAY? Check out the third image for "old american pledge of allegiance", heh
@palinfeets If couse u can prove a negative. There is no toilet paper in my bathroom.
Prove there is a God? With a creation there must b a creator. Look @ the world. Or just look @ my changed life. 1 Day Jesus said come and follow me (in my heart), and I did. My life is changed. Before that the goverments tries 2 change me, schools, parents. But it does come down 2 faith. When I look around, use logic and the like. I don't have enough faith 2 belive there is no God.
Y all the athiest comments full of so much Hate??? Y all the christians prepared for a lashing? Y did satan delete a great "Message"....All to discredit God... Now aways days my mind is in cage, War,genocide,lies,this world is full of rage... Theres a world that exist without a mention of the word God....It's called Hell......(conscious thoughts) to be honest if your cup runth over,what can you learn....to a cup half full...somehow i am still thirsty...
Ywalkwithme2012 2 weeks ago
So why did they (and I would like to know who made the decision and why) leave that obvious falsehood in? We're not UNDER God, btw. God permeates everything.
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Do you think that liberty and justice does exist for all?
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Let's alter things to the satisfaction of a small minority. Change the first word in "God Bless America", too.
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Of course, it's more controversial when you make the decision to change something as it is written. The idea that the mention of God is controversial is a sad commentary on these times.
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Sweet. Now if congress will do the same thing we'll be onto something.
lucifugef258 2 months ago
Um I hope you all know that the original Pledge of the Allegiance didn't have "under god" in it? Yeah... also, wouldn't it be more controversial if they did leave that line in? I mean it's controversial enough how students (both religious and non-religious) have to say that line. I'm agnostic and I think that people should respect non-religious people as they respect them. Seriously.
MyStaticFire 2 months ago
Yep, "atheists" are the haters. That's laughable.
DarkBanquet1 2 months ago
And plenty of atheists hate religious people for their beliefs.
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Saintlycitysue, the pledge as it now exists includes "under God". Don't let your agenda drive your reasoning.
dandydanlevy 2 months ago
Under God, who was responsible for them words, catholic knights of Columbus? They want to divide the country, all know America stands for freedom, for the religious and for the non religious, but what do the knights of Columbus stand for, a catholic America of church and state, elegance to the Vatican and Rome, wake up America dig deep into your history find out how Old Abe was killed, look up the first woman hanged in America, find out WHY.
HOFFABRANDO1 3 months ago
I can't like this song more enough
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another atheist victory over tennis lol
drakegod84 3 months ago
YOU FUCKING ATHEIST, PRESTIGIOUS SCUMS!!!!
DarkAngel47038 4 months ago
Why!! Why did they cut out Under God, thats not fucking american, they should keep "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, Atheist shouldn't try to out law that, Christians and other religions didn't try to out law "Evolution" because we all understand that it's the law of teaching children that topic in schools. Evolution we think that and always is a disprovement on God. F.Y.I. God is real!! even if some of you don't believe me. So...KEEP "UNDER GOD" IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE!!!
DarkAngel47038 4 months ago
YES!
rustardj 6 months ago
I guess they preferred the original version.
Pork7Beans 6 months ago
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JustinWestervelt 6 months ago
this country has lost its soul... so too, has this world.
rwarren7901 6 months ago
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE ATHEIST SCUM
albokk 7 months ago
@albokk
why ? cause they're different than the caps lock angry christians who tell everyone to be like them and then protest outside of soldiers funerals ?
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
@albokk and that's why people hate religious nutcases
hyrdogin 7 months ago
@albokk - Actually, atheism and agnosticism are perfectly legitimate points of view. Amazingly, you very seldom see atheists advocating for war, violence of any kind ..... or "hating" other people for their personal beliefs. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
SaintlyCitySue 6 months ago 2
Im an atheist and even think this was a disgusting move to re-write the pledge. if you don't want to say under god dont say it problem solved
JLE102191 7 months ago
@JLE102191
isn't that what nbc allegedly did ? they didn't want to air it, so they didn't.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
@JLE102191 Christians are the ones who re-wrote the pledge of allegiance. Learn some history, or at least read what a lot of other people are saying here, that the pledge of allegiance originally didn't have "under god" in it, and it was added much later in the 1950's.
ninjajesus81 7 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Your gay
unstoppable328 6 months ago
@JLE102191 - The Pledge of Allegiance has been rewritten four times, the most recent in 1954 when the words "under God" were inserted in the Pledge ... probably as a nod to the Joe McCarthy era and the "godless Communist threat". When I first learned the Pledge of Allegiance, "under God" wasn't in it.
SaintlyCitySue 6 months ago
liberals will ruin this country and that is a FACT
Cannondale900 7 months ago
@Cannondale900
that kind of "mentality" comes from people who will bring violence. not unlike terrorists who say "western influence will ruin this country and that is a FACT." so you and the terrorists obviously need to chill out.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
@Cannondale900 Oh, poor bronze age myths and outdated traditions. AMURICA
Sk82beast 7 months ago
@Sk82beast do you know why we are the greatest country on Earth? it is because of our deep rooted tradtitions that have been passed down many generations. We were founded upon this idea and will continue to be for a long time. You liberals absolutley loooovvveeeee fuckin this country over. keep it up
Cannondale900 7 months ago
@Cannondale900 America is the greatest country on Earth? How so? What are you basing that on? "Greatest" isn't an intrinsic property of the United States. Not to mention "greatest" is relative.
But what traditions do we have that make America so great?
ninjajesus81 7 months ago
@Cannondale900 We weren't founded on this idea at all. This phrase was introduced to our pledge of allegiance in the 50s as a response to the red scare. If you mean the deep rooted tradition of hating communists was passed on to us, then yes, you are correct.
Sk82beast 7 months ago
I am solidly anti organized religion. Believe what you want in private, then it doesn't bother me. But I am a patriot and take offense to any altering of the Pledge. Their omission of "under god" doesn't bother me so much, but for some reason it still does a little, just because they altered it -- I hate revisionists.
However, their omission of "INDIVISIBLE" -- now THAT's infuriating !! I would expect the entire team who was responsible for this be sent to the long unemployment line.
Shroomn2hi 7 months ago
@Shroomn2hi
why ? it's artistic license. it's a video package involving editing. it's not like they're filming a class of students live, and then cut them off before saying under god or indivisible. and our original pledge rightfully did not have under god in it. you should be upset that it was revised decades ago. as if every american citizen believes in a deity. what a joke.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
this is why NBC sucks, they are just doing the shock value to try and get ratings.
porkchop112699 7 months ago
"Basically ... out of all the ridiculous religion stories which are greatly, wonderfully ridiculous — the silliest one I've ever heard is, 'Yeah ... there's this big giant universe and it's expanding, it's all gonna collapse on itself and we're all just here just 'cause ... just 'cause'. That, to me, is the most ridiculous explanation ever."
JLE102191 7 months ago
@JLE102191
if someone says to you " just cause...just cause " then it doesn't sound like they know what they're talking about. its the same thing of saying, just have faith, just believe, it's his will.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
I'm an atheist. At my High School we say the pledge every morning. I say:
"I pledge of allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
That simple.
ikuto2213 7 months ago
apparently, you all think the government that forces us at gunpoint to obey it, is worthy of pledging your allegiance
longfootbuddy 7 months ago
Wait... which God... I assume the Christian one? Damn... you know, all this time I thought I was Zeus. Damn you NBC.
silicon43 7 months ago
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LadySprite72 7 months ago
What happens when you delete a foundation from a house? It crumbles. What happens when you omit a country's foundation? It crumbles. God was this nations foundation from the beginning.
mojp7 7 months ago
@mojp7 Tell that to the nations founders.
MizukiTHPS 7 months ago 2
@mojp7
no you're wrong, read the treaty of tripoli. and read the part of the constitution that prohibits our nation from taking an official religion. believe history. in these matters actual history is better than being brain washed by a pastor or a politician.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
@mojp7 The United States was founded on democracy and liberty, not on gods, devils or religion, as the Religious Right claims in its effort to turn America into a theocracy.
pwnUgood 7 months ago
@pwnUgood Congress July 4 1776: "...the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." OUR FOUNDATION. Do your homework son
mojp7 7 months ago
I don't use "under God" in the Pledge, either. It is inappropriate to exclude non-believers or imply that the nation is founded on a particular religion.
pwnUgood 7 months ago
@pwnUgood the word "God" does not refer to any particular religion
trumpetmaner 7 months ago
@trumpetmaner The word "God" was put into the Pledge in 1954 as a direct reference to the Christian God, and the protests against NBC for omitting it come exclusively from right-wing Christians who are promoting the propaganda lie that America was founded on their particular religion, and that their beliefs-- anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-science, anti-atheist, etc. should be enacted into law. Your charade fools no one.
pwnUgood 7 months ago
@pwnUgood But if you would have brushed up on your history a little better, then you would know that the United States WAS founded on a Christian basis. Not bashing anyone who is not Christian, but I'm just saying. I agree everyone has freedome of religion but this IS how it was.
TheOnePistol 7 months ago
@TheOnePistol
if we were talking about something like slavery and you were in favor of that, you could use this same argument. really, since the original constitution allowed slavery for a time. you could still say " this IS how it was. " i mean did you know that the u.s. constitution prohibits congress from establishing a religion to our nation ? if we were founded on a christian basis, i imagine our nation would be established as a christian nation. but we weren't, so we aren't
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
@TheOnePistol America was founded specifically as a secular democracy, not a "Christian nation". Those who claim otherwise have fallen for right-wing propaganda. The founders were from generally white, Christian, Anglo-Saxon backgrounds but took pains to prevent the nation from being based on that or any other religion, guaranteeing rather that all religions are equally protected by law from dominance by others. You do history a disservice by spreading the "Christian nation" lie.
pwnUgood 7 months ago
@pwnUgood Huh, I always thought it was. Oh well, still its pretty crazy that NBC would cut that out, its been that way for years. :P
TheOnePistol 7 months ago
@TheOnePistol "Under God" was not in the original Pledge of Allegiance, but got stuck in there by some anti-Communist crusaders in the 1950s. It wasn't an issue until the Christian Rightists tried to use that as evidence that America is a "Christian nation" -- a historical falsehood. For that reason, we should go back to the original wording. Atheists are loyal Americans too.
pwnUgood 7 months ago
@pwnUgood Ah, I see. But for me personally, I think they had no right to take it out, but thats just me.
TheOnePistol 7 months ago
IF ANYONE HERE DOESNT THINK GOD IS REAL THEN TAKE A LOOK FOR YOUR SELF AND TYPE IN (23 MINUTES IN HELL!!!) AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME THEN SORRY TO SAY BUT THATS WERE YOUL BE GOING!
TheWaycool9 7 months ago
@sportmusicguy97
i dunno. maybe somebody felt like through artistic liberty, they can remind us that every american is not christian, every american does not believe in a deity and it's wrong to force us to repeat a pledge with a deity wedged in there. especially when the constitution forbids our nation from taking an official religion.
1MoreRoundbrother 7 months ago
Ridiculous.
Tony1130 7 months ago
Godless
ilovebaby123100 8 months ago
@ilovebaby123100
godless and fearless. that's how we prosper arm in arm in peace. that's the real heaven.
1MoreRoundbrother 8 months ago
Why cant us Christians and you atheists just go our separate ways and quit arguing about whats true are not......let Christians be Christians and let atheists be atheists. Maybe everyone will be more happy. I don't hate atheists and i don't dislike them as people, but i do dislike their beliefs, just as they dislike my beliefs. And i'm okay with that. We Christians are not the ones to force God upon people, were just the ones to share God's word....... more of us Christians need to realize that.
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
The original pledge, written by Francis Bellamy in 1892 didn't include the words, "under God". They were added in 1954. Bellamy was a Christian socialist, who wanted to add the words "equality and fraternity", but that wouldn't have been accepted by the Christian leaders of education in that day who didn't support equality of women or African Americans. So, to summarize, the pledge is the work of a socialist who couldn't mention equality because religious leaders would have rejected it. Hmm.
charadester 8 months ago
@charadester The guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance was a Socialist? So what? So what does that prove? Does that make everyone who repeats the Pledge a socialist as well? Lester Maddox was a Democrat. Does that make all Democrats segregationists?
Weasler455 8 months ago
wtf... either you say " under god " or " indivisible" you do not skip it.
atheist or religious, secular or anti-secular, democrat or republicans.
we need to pick one, we need a nation wide vote on it because this " political correctness" will tare us apart
mrfwest 8 months ago
Bullshit....all you left wing agnostic/atheistic idiots can go live in France......
TxGotham 8 months ago
Well its about time to take the christian right down a peg.
Cinemaserials 8 months ago
They also cut out "indivisible". another important part of the pledge that says we will not let anything divide our country again. Yes, everyone has differences of opinion, but we won't let that tear the country apart, or other countries that may try it either. The pledge was changed to include "under God, indivisible" for a reason - that's who we are. Taking God out of our schools & country is only going to bring us down. Altering our national pledge of allegiance should be forbidden.
Little70Red 8 months ago
@Little70Red
"the pledge was changed to include "under God, indivisible" for a reason"
"Altering our national pledge of allegiance should be forbidden"
And it should have been forbidden before the change in 1954. Your statements disagree with each other.
RamblingPants 8 months ago 9
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@Little70Red Yes, it should have been forbidden to add "under god." What brings us down is all the BS and hatred that some religious people spew. Religion is a cancer to this world. As long as religion is around, so will religious wars.
It's hard to believe that so many folks have been scammed and can't see it.
fuzzysnuffles 8 months ago
@Little70Red I am not "under god." I don't live by fairy tales told by goat herders thousands of years ago. I think for myself and take responsibility for my actions.
fuzzysnuffles 8 months ago
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@fuzzysnuffles and we are supposed to care how about your "enlightened " thoughts?
lippiatts 7 months ago
That's my brother carrying the flag at 0:03 :)
Proud of you brother! <3
ErickaGuitron 8 months ago
@ErickaGuitron AWESOME! TELL HIM I SAID I LOVE HIM!!!!
WePlayPlayStation3 8 months ago
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Thank you, NBC, for making the pledge a little bit closer to the way it was originally written by Francis Ballamy in 1892. Let's all keep pressure on Congress to drop the "under God" nonsense that was added in 1954. When that happens, all Americans - believers and unbelievers alike - can recite the pledge with sincerity.
jeffdean64 8 months ago
OUTRAGEOUS!
rob232897 8 months ago
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WE always knew NBC and all the other media are TRUE EVILworkshops. MEDIA are only paid gov. mouthpieces and Satan worshippers-why should NBC's fear of God surprise us-their corp culture is so indebted to Satan they MUST scurry like roaches when they are faced with the concept of God. NBC even Omitted the word "GOD" from their apology-NBC should be Boycotted from our Sight!
libertydogfight 8 months ago
This is the version I learned in school - a CATHOLIC school. What's the big deal?
PattiMcCormick 8 months ago
@PattiMcCormick Not everyone is catholic, or christian.
procritic09 8 months ago
@procritic09 So? This IS a predominantly Christian nation, so if you don't like it here, too bad for you. Just GET THE FCUK OUT, and take our Mudslime "president" with you.
Weasler455 8 months ago
@Weasler455 It is also a SECULAR nation, with separation of Church and State. And if you don't like that, then you GET THE "FCUK" OUT.
procritic09 8 months ago
@procritic09:
Holy Trinity; Supreme Court: "These and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."
“It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ" - Patrick Henry
2010GOP 8 months ago
@procritic09 No, that is NOT true. There is no "separation of Church and State" in the Constitution. Read it for yourself - that is, AFTER you and your Mudslime "president" GET THE FCUK OUT.
Weasler455 8 months ago
@Weasler455 Hey, he's the President. At least pretend to respect the Office like all good Americans should.
Luminasita 8 months ago
@Luminasita Funny, I can't ever recall hearing words like that when Bush was President.
Weasler455 8 months ago
@Weasler455 You're right, no one had to say it then. Funny indeed!
Luminasita 8 months ago
missin a few words in the Pledge there nbc?
krohmer2 8 months ago
Plus I love how people are hysterical about god being left and but don't talk about the word indivisible which, to me, is more important
kentokaneko777 8 months ago
The original statement by francis Bellamy was "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"
kentokaneko777 8 months ago
well if you say "Christians are stupid" then guess your saying that 78.4% or ALL Americans are stupid too?
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
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@AllNightLong3333 "well if you say "Christians are stupid" then guess your saying that 78.4% or ALL Americans are stupid too?"
I find it quite impossible that there are so many Christians in an advanced and highly educated society.
It's more likely that there is a large percentage of closet atheists, and another large percentage refer to themselves as Christians to avoid social problems in your society.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine You clearly haven't looked at the census results for 2010. AllNightLong3333 is correct actually. Go online and check the results. You only assume that it is likely that most of the US population is atheistic.
bamsb90 8 months ago
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@bamsb90 "You only assume that it is likely that most of the US population is atheistic. "
I'm obviously assuming, but I do have a good reason to believe what I claimed.
saintpine 8 months ago
Yeah 'cause republicans don't watch porn, they don't get drunk, they don't do drugs, and they don't go to war . . . American double standard, American double morals
eilier 8 months ago
The majority of people believe in a God of some sort. So the people who dont believe in God should not be offended when God is used in our pledge of allegance right 9pt9? Or should we conform to your belief of their is no God? That is also a faith based system.
unstoppable328 8 months ago
@unstoppable328 Is not believing in unicorns also a faith based system?
procritic09 8 months ago
@procritic09 Thats gay
unstoppable328 6 months ago
Not that I want it to come to that. I would prefer people make their own choices of what to believe. But beliefs, religions, are being forced on people, on children before they have the comprehension to understand what is going on(like the Pledge of Allegiance), often by parents who bring their very young children to church every Sunday, thus indoctrinating them to the church system. It is truly unfortunate. Churches are great, beacons of community. But shoving religion upon others is wrong.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench But I don't believe it's just my belief. I believe it's reality and I have have good grounds to believe so. So I'm compelled to share the gospel so that others can be saved. I became a Christian as an adult. I was a science major in college and was an atheist. All I
Can say is read the gospels with an open heart. There is a way that is right.
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9 THAT IS YOUR BELIEF. It is NOT everyone's belief. Stupid forcing it on others, you zealot. So you are obligated to spread the word. This is exactly what I am saying. You are preaching, do you stop when someone says they are not interested, or do you press on in order to save that person?
I had enough of the bible and all the worthless shenanigans it entails from almost a decade of church, thanks. I was Christian but became atheist, the opposite of you.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench I know its my belief and I don't force it on others. How can you force someone into loving you or being friends with u?? If you think the Bible is "worthless" than you face the consequences if there are any. Bye.
9pt9 8 months ago
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@9pt9 "If you think the Bible is "worthless" than you face the consequences if there are any. Bye."
This is a threat, I don't see why you should get away with delivering threats from your gang leader Mr Jesus.
And the fact that he's dead 2000 years ago, does not lift you from your responsabilites.
saintpine 8 months ago
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@9pt9 "Can say is read the gospels with an open heart. There is a way that is right."
Thats silly, you nead to read with your brain switched on, and use rationality and logic.
saintpine 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench
I will pray for you. I once believed all the thing that you mentioned. Until the faith in the Rightueos LORD saved me. For my brothers and sisters of who have faith in the Jesus and our Gracious GOD, Wear Gods Armor.
Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, lean not on our own understandings, submit to him in all your ways and he will make you paths straight. God bless
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 All it shows is that you probably suffered some incredible tragedy and were too weak to stick by your original beliefs through them, so you resorted to converting to Christianity.
Go try praying for people of other faiths/nonfaiths in person the way you are online and see how long it takes for someone to beat the shit out of you. Shouldn't take long. I'd love to see how the "armor of god" protects you then.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
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RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench
Timothy 2:23-24
Have nothing to do with foolish or ignorant conversation, it only breeds quarrels. The lords servant must not be quarrelsome but be kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 See, you are an obnoxiously pushy zealot. Claiming anything not Christian is evil. Disregard anything I say. Constantly put your own agenda first. Do not respect any wishes to stop praying for or trying to convert others. You are subhuman trash, utterly brainwashed, little more than a marionette for the church. Truly, nothing holds the human race back more than backwards religion that spurns education of the world.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
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RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
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@RightouesPath2011
"Proverbs29:17
Discipline your son, and he will give you rest; he will give delight to your heart.
I pray that you find whatever questions you mayhave in the Bible for this is the word of the GOD"
Sure and don't forget the good advice given versus ahead about you favourite slave in Proverbs 29:19
Please get an education and stop spreading this bronze age garbage.
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@RightouesPath2011
Timothy 2:23-24
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
@9pt9 That's what I'm saying, that's the stuff that pisses people off. YOU BELIEVE THIS. Not everyone. You. Christians. By your belief, you spread your gospel to people who do not want to hear it. Knowing that there is nothing past death's a scary prospect, so the weak of will cling to a belief that there is something more past the now, because the alternative is terrifying.
And I have a very good reason to want an afterlife. But my beliefs are my will, I would fight to the death for them.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
Why do people misquote the Treaty of Tripoli? This is the full text from the treaty: "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion as it has in itself no character of enmity [hatred] against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] and as the said States [America] have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinion
crschriever 8 months ago
@2010GOP The Treaty of Tripoli, in article 11, states: " the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." This was signed by John Adams and unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate in 1797
shockofthetruth 8 months ago
Who cares? Flag worship is stupid to begin with. The pledge was written by avowed socialist Francis Bellamy. No freedom loving individual should be spouting it off to begin with. Furthermore, this country was FOUNDED on the idea that people have the right to sever ties with an oppressive government. Why would you WANT to imply that your country is indivisible and you no longer have the right to secede?
And I don't like the implication that America is somehow Godly. My God is a loving god...
DavidoftheWest 8 months ago
I say we boy cot NBC
Aluapay 8 months ago
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AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333
Amen.
We can always pray. For GOD created all, blessed us all and loves us all. But you must have faith in him.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
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@RightouesPath2011 "We can always pray. For GOD created all, blessed us all and loves us all. But you must have faith in him."
@AllNightLong3333 translated for you:
We can always talk nonsense to ourselves for our ego, for an imaginary invisible friend created us from nothing in 6 days, he blessed (?) us all with a magic spell, and loves us all, even the worst pedophiles and mass murderers , But you must believe this bullshit without any evidence.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine
I'll pray for you.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
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@RightouesPath2011 "ll pray for you."
Why do you tell me this, knowing that it has absolutly no meaning to me ?
Is this supposed to be something that should make me get pissed ?
Wouldn't it be better to call me an asshole or something like ?
Anyway thank you, I will wank in your name, hope this makes you feel better.
saintpine 8 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 pushy Christians are truly loathsome creatures, how proud you are, to think we must be "saved" instead of leaving well enough alone. It is not your duty to save people. That is the problem with modern Christians, they feel the need to force their "salvation" upon anyone of another faith, or no faith at all. It is oppressive and disgusting.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench "pushy Christians"? We never push ourselves on others bc God can't be forced on people. We share the message of the gospel. That ALL are sinners and are separated from God. The ONLY way back to God is Christs sacrifice on the cross. It's not always a popular message bc some people won't admit they are sinners. This is why christianity is "oppressive & disgusting" to you. I KNOW I'm a sinner. I'm no better than you.
9pt9 8 months ago
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AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@9pt9 "It's not always a popular message bc some people won't admit they are sinners. This is why christianity is "oppressive & disgusting" to you. I KNOW I'm a sinner. I'm no better than you."
Oh please, on your scale, I have no problems of admitting that I'm a sinner, who fucking cares it doesn't cause me any problem, and I’m not going to rape my intelligence and dignity for disgusting and oppressive Christianity with all it's insane stupidity.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine Sin does affect your life and it hurts others. "rape your intelligence and dignity"? "oppressive christianity"?? Everything in the bible is good and leads to healthy moral living . Everything. "insane stupidity" lol, the Bible encourages education and acquiring knowledge. You are woefully off base bro. Pray.
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9
"Sin does affect your life and it hurts others"
Some, but lots are fun.
"Everything in the bible is good and leads to healthy moral living "
Read it, it's nowhere near tacking into the slightest consideration.
"You are woefully off base bro. Pray"
Go ahead and waste your time on this nonsense if it makes you happy, I've had quite enough of it, I wish it Christianity had never crossed my life, but anyway there’s hope it gets ridiculed into the myths section of the library.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine Ah but it already has crossed ur life as it will everybodys. One day you'll be glad when life circumstances beckon you back to the Lord. Enjoy yours sins now but remember you'll be reaping the whirlwind soon enough. And as history has shown, the bible will never enter the dust bin of history. Goodbye & God bless you.
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9 "Enjoy yours sins now but remember you'll be reaping the whirlwind soon enough. And as history has shown, the bible will never enter the dust bin of history. Goodbye & God bless you"
Fuck your threats, it doesn't make me uneasy, don't worry Christianity will die out, in my country Italy it will be the minority in less than 20 years.
Atheism is growing fast and soon you will have people laughing at you all over the place.
Goodbye and remember satan loves you and want to save you from god.
saintpine 8 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 At least someone agrees
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333
God says to curb our tongues. we should not judge because The rightues LORD is the only judge. wrath on one another only brings wrath. Spead peace and PRAY for those who have been decieved and that they find comfort in JESUS......OUR ONLY SALVATION.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 "Psalm 53:1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and their ways are vile; there is no one who does good."
It's only a fool that thinks they can say something in the heart, It’s only a pump without any intelligence of its own.
So that ignorant desert dweller mistakenly took the increase of the heart pump rate for something that the heart expressed on its own, whoever wrote this verse was a fool, and whoever propagates foolish messages is a fool.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine an you sir/mam or both are a fool
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
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@AllNightLong3333 "an you sir/mam or both are a fool.."
How cute of you sweetheart, when you take that dummy out of your mouth, please let these fairy tales go, together with Santa clause and the tooth fairy, it's going to be tough in the start but I'm sure you can substitute them with new toys like dildo's or inflatable dolls.
Good luck or rather good fuck.
saintpine 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 Good one!
9pt9 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333
Procritic09 69:13 You're an idiot.
procritic09 8 months ago
I'm a Christian but, Atheists tend not to do any research.
What Atheists say: "It's ridiculous to suggest there isn't or hasn't been any superior beings to us."
What I Say: "But there's evidence of ghosts, evidence of all sorts of paronormal and supernatural activities happening the world. Atheists just don't look into stuff like that. You people do have to explain things." Jesus is known as the "Holy Ghost"......... honestly iv'e experienced paranormal activity. Believe it or not. IDC
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 You do realize that religiosity and IQ are inversely correlated?
ghosts??
/watch?v=XvxFXkv7L24
l337pwnage 8 months ago
@l337pwnage well that's my opinion and if your offended you can kiss my black ass
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 no offense taken. At least you recognize that it is an opinion.
But atheists become atheists because they actually do the research.
/watch?v=hd14zlp--98
l337pwnage 8 months ago
@l337pwnage atheist become atheists just to bash organised religions
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 all you need to do it bash another religion that is not part of your religion. not to mention all the "christians" who bash all the sects that "aren't true christians", rofl.
/watch?v=2Dcfj0PU_JQ
l337pwnage 8 months ago
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@l337pwnage well that's not what i do due to the fact that all the Jews, Muslims, and Christians BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD AND SHARE THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS of the OLD TESTAMENT and i never bash Judaism because Jesus was the King of the Jews and they are Gods Choose People. The Islamic people follow a Profit named Muhammad who was one of Father Abraham's Sons (No not the president Abraham) says it all in the Bible.
But why do you ONLY bash Christianity? Why not the other Two? I bash u cuz u bash us!
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 I'm an equal opportunity destroyer. I've pissed off muslims too, and a few jews, but I haven't met many jews that I know of, though.
And, it this case, it is only christians, that I know of, who are bitching about NBC's rather obvious "unintentional mistake". And nobody is claiming that the U.S. is "a muslim nation", although I really don't think anyone can argue the fact that the jews are who is REALLY running the U.S. ;p
l337pwnage 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 "iv'e experienced paranormal activity"
So have I experienced paranormal activities for years before my rationalty convinced me that it was bullshit.
So already at the age of 15, one night while I was panicking because someone was touching me and breathing loud, I stood up to face him, but there was nothing, it took me about a year to not have these experiences anymore.
Once I kicked Mr Jesus and all other nonsense out of my life, I've lived a wonderful 35 years since.
saintpine 8 months ago
@saintpine well have fun in hell
AllNightLong3333 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 Have fun getting invaded, raped to death and your freshly decapitated head skinned and stuck on a pike by Zetas when the mexican drug war eventually completely overruns the border and floods into Texas.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@AllNightLong3333 "well have fun in hell"
Thank you ?, is there any better option ?
Do you really thing arse licking a god all your earthly life and then going on like that in heaven for eternity is any better ?
saintpine 8 months ago
Do not be decieved, Pray.
Psalms 52:2
Your tongue plots destruction, like a sharp razor, you worker of deceit.
Let Gods word do the talking.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
RightouesPath2011 8 months ago
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I have joined, along with all family members, all our neighbors (13 homes) and all but one friend the boycott of all nbc programs, news or anything to do with the network altogether. We also will be helping to get letters and email to all sponsors of programs and urge them to finish up contracts and never under any circumstances advertise there again. Products and embarrassed companies over this are not to blame. If you have cable or satellite, simply go to channel options and remove nbc.
giramino 8 months ago
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giramino 8 months ago
it wasn't in the pledge before and it doesn't belong there now i don't even fear communism witch is why it was added
gottsein234 8 months ago
UnbelieveblyDisgusting. Goodbye God? Goodbye america.
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9 "UnbelieveblyDisgusting. Goodbye God? Goodbye america."
Unbelievably disgusting that you would even say that. Is your patriotism really that conditional.
And how would this country fall apart without the Christian god if it's already falling apart with the Christian god in full control. 90% of the population adhering to Christian tenets for over 200 yrs yet things are only getting worse. Hate break this to you....but Christianity ain't working!! It has failed!! and so has your god!!
nosajj12345 8 months ago
@nosajj12345 True Patriotism is born out of christianity. USA is deteriorating in direct proportion to the rate at which we forsake our CHRISTIAN VALUES. God isn't failing, we are. The bible has already warned us in advance what happens to nations that forsake the Lord. Pray for revival or bye bye freedom!
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9 Hahahaha talk about bullshit. It's pathetic. Just like the terrifying people who are actually in charge of things in Texas and what, Pennsylvania? Or something? Some dumbshit mayor and the governor of Texas who both are literally asking people to "pray away our budget woes". Seriously.
There is no more condemnable waste of time than prayer. It allows you to feel like you've done something to help someone, without actually doing anything, thus plenty of Americans readily perform it.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
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@9pt9 " True Patriotism is born out of christianity. USA is deteriorating in direct proportion to the rate at which we forsake our CHRISTIAN VALUES"
You are so obtuse and delusional its frightening.
You are claiming the millions of American patriots who are not Christian, but of another faith or of non belief, don't qualify as patriots no matter how much they love their country. This country was built on the sweat and ingenuity of people of different beliefs, not only Christians. WAKE UP!
nosajj12345 8 months ago
@9pt9 Oh, The Religious Right is doing a good enough job of sending America down the shitter in the name of "god" as it is, the best thing that could happen is for religion to be thrown out the window in the name of education and science. But it won't happen, because Americans Are Idiots. It's in the Constitution even, that Americans have to be Fucking Retards At All Times. Amen.
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
@AStandsForFrench Lol religion and God ARE being thrown out. Can't you see? Look at this video. You are getting your wish. Now watch the deterioration. See what good your hopeless, atheistic, moral relativism will bring America. And "education & science" have always been the Christians best friend.
9pt9 8 months ago
@9pt9 Shortly after the video, the rabid religious right threw such a hissy fit that NBC pussed out.
When I say education, I do not mean of the bible. When I say science, I do not mean of Creationism.
And what will my hopeless, atheistic, moral relativism bring? A few less words in a fascistic, creepy "pledge of allegiance"? Did you ever stop to think how weird it is, to stand in school and repeat a chant, EVERY DAY? Check out the third image for "old american pledge of allegiance", heh
AStandsForFrench 8 months ago
THOSE BASTARDS! They forgot "indivisible." Why do they hate America?
saintmichaelsarmoury 8 months ago
KUDOS TO NBC!!!!!
rellik31486 8 months ago
@palinfeets If couse u can prove a negative. There is no toilet paper in my bathroom.
Prove there is a God? With a creation there must b a creator. Look @ the world. Or just look @ my changed life. 1 Day Jesus said come and follow me (in my heart), and I did. My life is changed. Before that the goverments tries 2 change me, schools, parents. But it does come down 2 faith. When I look around, use logic and the like. I don't have enough faith 2 belive there is no God.
eternalsouljaandson 8 months ago