And you dont feel Adam was at an awful place in his life too?
How hypocritical..Adam lost his MOTHER! Barely had a decent grieving period. He thought he would have that with his dead-beat dad but nope he got shafted from his sibs and cast away as the outsider. I understand why he had revenge in his heart (but I also dont excuse what he did to Ash and then Sharon as cover up.)
@sharbut he actually didn't, he came to town w/ a chip on his shoulder, and basically intent on destroying nick and vicki along w/ ne, which he almost did. when he rightfully got jailed for it, he set being blind in a fake manner, so that he could trick heather w/ this, which got her 2 do the convincing on his behalf 2 victor 4 a second chance, which he did, nonetheless on ash's word, & he knew that, along with her being his friend and only supporter, and he does this to her? so not hope.
@sharbut he had a decent mother and step-father to grow up with, not enough for him to become a sociopath. hell if it were up to adam he would blame his ole' daddy victor for the sky being blue? lol.. what's new?. hell, if it were up to him, he could say that hope taught him to stick needles in a doll's eyes to scare a fragile woman off, or to lie on her memory about someone's kid being alive, or cause so much havoc in his own father's life despite promise of peace 2 a dying hope. go figure....
@sharbut in sharon's case, she's a dumb idiot 2 wanna even be w/ adam, whose caused her the utmost betrayal in life, & that's bringing her down to her lowest point by making her suffer through the most inconsolable grief 4 the second time in her life since cassie, by kidnapping faith, faking her death, and then sending stolen ashes to re-solidify that horrid fact, along w/ emotionally abusing a grieving sharon knowingly by lying to her about her baby, even after marriage, despite the real truth.
How Sharon lost her baby was an accident but it could have still been avoided if it wasnt for NICK! His blind-rage and arrogance and just douche-baggery was the cause of that whole mess. Deliberately gaslighted Ash INTO MISCARRIAGE? LOL. Ash's miscarriage WAS AN ACCIDENT. He never set out for her to loose her baby. What child's body? If you wanna go into biology we can but youtube has word limits. It was blood and he burned the blooded cloths in the fireplace, stop making up shit.
@sharbut oh ho it's not shit! it seems u r the one lacking on info.before matt died and told him that he had raped sharon and that the baby could be his, they had an argument and when nick went went out the door and when sharon heard the engine starting ran after him to stop and accidentally fell down in the process.
@cashmerelover89 Oh it is. I know they had an argument and when Nick left in one of his hissy-fits, he hit over a chair or something..Sharon went after him and fell over and lost her baby. Nick was aware of the risk he was taking as well or should have been aware. Even if it wasnt his, he should have remembered that Sharon, supposedly the love of his life, was pregnant yet he didnt hesitate to inflict stress on her. His rage had already had her in duress...
During a fight about this, Nick knocked over a chair, slammed out the door in a huff, and drove off, creating a loud bang as his tire exploded against the curb at high speed. Fearful for Nick, Sharon ran for the door, tripped over the chair, and landed on her stomach. Her baby girl was delivered prematurely and later died.
it was intentional, but clearly an accident.....
adam did what just as i said it, because that's what i saw happening on my screen...
@sharbut adam was aware of the risk he was taking into inflicting that horror on ash and still kept on doing it, which led to that. it makes him a killer of a growing life in my book, as it was. we just seem to have different people accountable for two totally different situations, that's all.
@cashmerelover89 We're gonna have to agree to disagree. You can love Nick and I can love Adam, as well as him with Sharon. That's what makes the world interesting, people have differing views. Cheers!
I was just wondering why you would come to a predominantly Shadam clip, who are you trying to convince?
Its sick to me that no one gave a damn when Nick chose Phyllis over Noah and Sharon after the death of HIS DAUGHTER WITH SHARON!!!! The same Phyllis whose son he thought killed his daughter.. how rich?!
Go Shadam!! Its you against those sanctimonious hypocrites of GC!
@sharbut that's mislead. nick still wanted to be with sharon and work things out. sharon is the one who called it quits and filed for divorce. nick never really gave up on his marriage to sharon. all in all, it's pretty it's always been sharon for him. even after summer got sick, he wanted to stay, but she let him go, knowing how much summer & phyllis needed him right now, as it was the same dire predicament similar to the same one that was with cassie and her.
@sharbut (part 2) she knew how guilty nick felt over not being there 4 her then, and how not being there now would change him 4ever, & not in a good way. sharon did a selfless thing there. i don't know why some people don't recognize that, just assuming stuff. and now she has the dream she always wanted with nick and she's consciously effing up with her evil baby-napper/death-faker, over faith's welfare. very bad.
@sharbut (part 3) if one doesn't believe me, go watch the archive clips or even read up the history on these two available online. take that step 1 further and see all the vile things of gaslighting adam did to ashley, even after he killed her baby - like nikki, dr.taylor, and patty. it's all written there in black and white, lol...
@cashmerelover89 Why are you telling me this? I watched the show..I've been watching the show. All of what you said doesnt take away from the fact the Nick chose Phyllis over Noah and Sharon, especially in a time when they needed him THE MOST. I'm talking about the time when he was running after Daniel and Phyllis all over the damn place because of his own guilt and then proceeded to cheat with Phyllis for MONTHS, while Sharon and NOAH grieved for Cassie on their own.
@sharbut cassie's death was 1 of the most heart-wrenching tragedies in shick's life, overall. they all grieved 4 her in their very own special family moments. even though these weren't full-on, they were there. nick went through the toughest/ most inconsolable loss of a child in his life, & it's not an easy journey. people don't always cope w/ these things in the most normal of ways. they lash out, self-destruct, blocking out the pain/memory, act unlike themselves, among other things - aka nick.
@cashmerelover89 Sharon lost a child too, if you have forgotten!! These excuses for Nick are really pathetic. I guess the same excuses can be used for Adam's wrong-doings. Adam lost his mother, if you forgot before thrusted into a vile environ with his brat siblings and evil old dad.
Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken Shick lost a baby before this and that was caused BY NICK!! His arrogant ass wanted Sharon to abort her baby back then (I know about the whole Matt Clark situation) ...cont'd
@sharbut matt clark's situation was an accident, if u don't remember. plus, adam deliberately gaslighted ash into a miscarriage, a whole other situation, when she knew of her delicate pregnancy and how he horrifically covered it up afterwards by cleaning her up & throwing her child's body in the fireplace. +, sharon cheated 2 with brad, victoria's then husband, and i don't know why people don't seem 2 remember that, that 2 w/ it being more on an emotional level. it was a really bad time 4 both.
@cashmerelover89 cont'd Like how you can come up with a ton of excuses for Nick, I am different as I will admit that what Adam did to Ashley,in gaslighting her was WRONG. His revenge-filled heart caused him to do that and Ash ultimately ended up loosing her baby. Just like Nick's blind-rage caused Saron to loose her baby. But I think Adam was filled with regret and I beleive that is not his nature and he is now trying to change with Sharon, to the man his mother prob raised him to be.
@cashmerelover89 And its rich that you would bring up Sharon's cheating. Arent you a Sharon fan? Or are you just a Nick fan? Anyways, Nick had already been secreted with Phyllis's fluids by the time Sharon even thought about sleeping with Brad. Nick was nowhere to be found for Sharon.
@sharbut a shick / + a sharon & nick fan as well. t i am totally disgusted with sharon's attitude of choice 2 be abandoning her daughter 4 that baby-kidnapper/death-faker of hers. nick's actions were motivated by grief, as he was rightfully messed up back then, as he held himself responsible 4 not teaching cassie how 2 drive, when she did that w/ a drunk daniel, along with the grief he felt compounding him to completely shut down the memory of cassie's death from his mind and act unlike himself.
@sharbut (cont.-) not that this cuts as an excuse, but get the awful place he was at that time. plus, i am stating sharon w/ brad thing right now bcoz nick wasn't the only one who turned to somebody else, it came from both places regardless of the times, so holding one person responsible is not reasonable. in real-life, a marriage not being able to tough out the loss of a child is not uncommon. imo, what happened 5 years ago was sad & heart-breaking 4 me, but not surprising, from personal opi..
@cashmerelover89 Sharon was going after an angry Nick who pushed a chair or something into her path and she fell over it and lost her baby!! Sorry I dont forget those things. Sharon has given Nick MILLIONS of chances, so its time for her to move on with Adam. And so far he isnt disaapointing her. He's been doing everything for her since that horrid event when he took her baby, even putting her before himself.
@sharbut (pt.4) - 4 me, nick's a much better man than adam can ever even try 2 be. i'm not taking sides here. i luv both nick & sharon, but i'm disliking sharon right now, like there was a short time w/ nick (a child's death/sickness can do messed up things 2 ur head - this comes from personal experience of knowing someone whose gone through those things themselves - it ain't easy). this is my own opinion, just like u have 1. i just wanted 2 iron out a few facts, that's all.
i have to say that all of this sanctimonious crap everyone is saying to adam and sharon pisses me off. all of those characters have done just as bad or worse and they have all been redeemed at one time or another. plus what is everyone going to say that adam's own father is responsible for framing him for murder. how i long for the downfall of victor newman
@misslilad I completely agree with you. I'm actually rooting for Sharon and Adam to get together and have this whole mess straightened out. Ever since they hooked up I have not once felt sorry for Nick. At all. He totally deserves what's coming to him. Her wishy washy-ness is annoying, but so are the hypocrites who are throwing stones at her. Victor is attempting to frame Adam for murder that did NOT take place. He is just as low as Adam was, if not worse, since he is his father.
All those hypocrites make me sick! At least Adam admit to his mistakes while the others act like their sh*t smell like roses! Nick has hurt both Sharon & Phyllis so much that's it's pathetic. He deserves this! Go Shadam!
Also why the hell are they trying to make Nick look all moral when he left Sharon and Noah to grieve for the death of their daughter to run off with that bitch Phyllis and that little mistake Summer. He is the one they need to take the children away from. Also isn't Nick about to sleep with his Dads ex-wife. These people are trash, the only thing I hate about this is they make Sharon look like she doesn't care about her kids.
You know what, Sharon is an always be my favorite character on Y&R and I think what they are doing to Sharon is the right thing, this will force everyone to stop treating her like a child and protecting her and let her stand on her own and be strong. I think after all this is said and done she will come out strong and independent. I think they should do an article on Phyllis and then all the stuff she previously got away with comes out somehow and she pays for it dearly.
you call those decision or carelessness or being unloyal to her family and an hypcrite to Nick. She said that she was ready to marry Nick but she went to New Orleans and met with Adam and all of a sudden she felt a connection
@dontremovemycomments Its funny that you like Ejami..considering you probably hate Shadam. I like Ejami too but you can't deny that EJ did worse things to Sammi than Adam did to Sharon..
Nikki said it all..Thank You !!!
lovlisparrow 3 months ago
haha u dnt know how much i'm lovin it right now.. the fall of queen sharon!
absatou22 1 year ago
Adam and Sharon were meant to be together. Like she says, they make each other better people.
JLKP19 1 year ago 2
And you dont feel Adam was at an awful place in his life too?
How hypocritical..Adam lost his MOTHER! Barely had a decent grieving period. He thought he would have that with his dead-beat dad but nope he got shafted from his sibs and cast away as the outsider. I understand why he had revenge in his heart (but I also dont excuse what he did to Ash and then Sharon as cover up.)
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut he actually didn't, he came to town w/ a chip on his shoulder, and basically intent on destroying nick and vicki along w/ ne, which he almost did. when he rightfully got jailed for it, he set being blind in a fake manner, so that he could trick heather w/ this, which got her 2 do the convincing on his behalf 2 victor 4 a second chance, which he did, nonetheless on ash's word, & he knew that, along with her being his friend and only supporter, and he does this to her? so not hope.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut he had a decent mother and step-father to grow up with, not enough for him to become a sociopath. hell if it were up to adam he would blame his ole' daddy victor for the sky being blue? lol.. what's new?. hell, if it were up to him, he could say that hope taught him to stick needles in a doll's eyes to scare a fragile woman off, or to lie on her memory about someone's kid being alive, or cause so much havoc in his own father's life despite promise of peace 2 a dying hope. go figure....
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut in sharon's case, she's a dumb idiot 2 wanna even be w/ adam, whose caused her the utmost betrayal in life, & that's bringing her down to her lowest point by making her suffer through the most inconsolable grief 4 the second time in her life since cassie, by kidnapping faith, faking her death, and then sending stolen ashes to re-solidify that horrid fact, along w/ emotionally abusing a grieving sharon knowingly by lying to her about her baby, even after marriage, despite the real truth.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
How Sharon lost her baby was an accident but it could have still been avoided if it wasnt for NICK! His blind-rage and arrogance and just douche-baggery was the cause of that whole mess. Deliberately gaslighted Ash INTO MISCARRIAGE? LOL. Ash's miscarriage WAS AN ACCIDENT. He never set out for her to loose her baby. What child's body? If you wanna go into biology we can but youtube has word limits. It was blood and he burned the blooded cloths in the fireplace, stop making up shit.
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut oh ho it's not shit! it seems u r the one lacking on info.before matt died and told him that he had raped sharon and that the baby could be his, they had an argument and when nick went went out the door and when sharon heard the engine starting ran after him to stop and accidentally fell down in the process.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 Oh it is. I know they had an argument and when Nick left in one of his hissy-fits, he hit over a chair or something..Sharon went after him and fell over and lost her baby. Nick was aware of the risk he was taking as well or should have been aware. Even if it wasnt his, he should have remembered that Sharon, supposedly the love of his life, was pregnant yet he didnt hesitate to inflict stress on her. His rage had already had her in duress...
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut this is from soc:
During a fight about this, Nick knocked over a chair, slammed out the door in a huff, and drove off, creating a loud bang as his tire exploded against the curb at high speed. Fearful for Nick, Sharon ran for the door, tripped over the chair, and landed on her stomach. Her baby girl was delivered prematurely and later died.
it was intentional, but clearly an accident.....
adam did what just as i said it, because that's what i saw happening on my screen...
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut adam was aware of the risk he was taking into inflicting that horror on ash and still kept on doing it, which led to that. it makes him a killer of a growing life in my book, as it was. we just seem to have different people accountable for two totally different situations, that's all.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 We're gonna have to agree to disagree. You can love Nick and I can love Adam, as well as him with Sharon. That's what makes the world interesting, people have differing views. Cheers!
I was just wondering why you would come to a predominantly Shadam clip, who are you trying to convince?
sharbut 1 year ago
Its sick to me that no one gave a damn when Nick chose Phyllis over Noah and Sharon after the death of HIS DAUGHTER WITH SHARON!!!! The same Phyllis whose son he thought killed his daughter.. how rich?!
Go Shadam!! Its you against those sanctimonious hypocrites of GC!
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut that's mislead. nick still wanted to be with sharon and work things out. sharon is the one who called it quits and filed for divorce. nick never really gave up on his marriage to sharon. all in all, it's pretty it's always been sharon for him. even after summer got sick, he wanted to stay, but she let him go, knowing how much summer & phyllis needed him right now, as it was the same dire predicament similar to the same one that was with cassie and her.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
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cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut (part 2) she knew how guilty nick felt over not being there 4 her then, and how not being there now would change him 4ever, & not in a good way. sharon did a selfless thing there. i don't know why some people don't recognize that, just assuming stuff. and now she has the dream she always wanted with nick and she's consciously effing up with her evil baby-napper/death-faker, over faith's welfare. very bad.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut (part 3) if one doesn't believe me, go watch the archive clips or even read up the history on these two available online. take that step 1 further and see all the vile things of gaslighting adam did to ashley, even after he killed her baby - like nikki, dr.taylor, and patty. it's all written there in black and white, lol...
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 Why are you telling me this? I watched the show..I've been watching the show. All of what you said doesnt take away from the fact the Nick chose Phyllis over Noah and Sharon, especially in a time when they needed him THE MOST. I'm talking about the time when he was running after Daniel and Phyllis all over the damn place because of his own guilt and then proceeded to cheat with Phyllis for MONTHS, while Sharon and NOAH grieved for Cassie on their own.
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut cassie's death was 1 of the most heart-wrenching tragedies in shick's life, overall. they all grieved 4 her in their very own special family moments. even though these weren't full-on, they were there. nick went through the toughest/ most inconsolable loss of a child in his life, & it's not an easy journey. people don't always cope w/ these things in the most normal of ways. they lash out, self-destruct, blocking out the pain/memory, act unlike themselves, among other things - aka nick.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 Sharon lost a child too, if you have forgotten!! These excuses for Nick are really pathetic. I guess the same excuses can be used for Adam's wrong-doings. Adam lost his mother, if you forgot before thrusted into a vile environ with his brat siblings and evil old dad.
Oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken Shick lost a baby before this and that was caused BY NICK!! His arrogant ass wanted Sharon to abort her baby back then (I know about the whole Matt Clark situation) ...cont'd
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut matt clark's situation was an accident, if u don't remember. plus, adam deliberately gaslighted ash into a miscarriage, a whole other situation, when she knew of her delicate pregnancy and how he horrifically covered it up afterwards by cleaning her up & throwing her child's body in the fireplace. +, sharon cheated 2 with brad, victoria's then husband, and i don't know why people don't seem 2 remember that, that 2 w/ it being more on an emotional level. it was a really bad time 4 both.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 cont'd Like how you can come up with a ton of excuses for Nick, I am different as I will admit that what Adam did to Ashley,in gaslighting her was WRONG. His revenge-filled heart caused him to do that and Ash ultimately ended up loosing her baby. Just like Nick's blind-rage caused Saron to loose her baby. But I think Adam was filled with regret and I beleive that is not his nature and he is now trying to change with Sharon, to the man his mother prob raised him to be.
sharbut 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 And its rich that you would bring up Sharon's cheating. Arent you a Sharon fan? Or are you just a Nick fan? Anyways, Nick had already been secreted with Phyllis's fluids by the time Sharon even thought about sleeping with Brad. Nick was nowhere to be found for Sharon.
sharbut 1 year ago
@sharbut a shick / + a sharon & nick fan as well. t i am totally disgusted with sharon's attitude of choice 2 be abandoning her daughter 4 that baby-kidnapper/death-faker of hers. nick's actions were motivated by grief, as he was rightfully messed up back then, as he held himself responsible 4 not teaching cassie how 2 drive, when she did that w/ a drunk daniel, along with the grief he felt compounding him to completely shut down the memory of cassie's death from his mind and act unlike himself.
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@sharbut (cont.-) not that this cuts as an excuse, but get the awful place he was at that time. plus, i am stating sharon w/ brad thing right now bcoz nick wasn't the only one who turned to somebody else, it came from both places regardless of the times, so holding one person responsible is not reasonable. in real-life, a marriage not being able to tough out the loss of a child is not uncommon. imo, what happened 5 years ago was sad & heart-breaking 4 me, but not surprising, from personal opi..
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 Sharon was going after an angry Nick who pushed a chair or something into her path and she fell over it and lost her baby!! Sorry I dont forget those things. Sharon has given Nick MILLIONS of chances, so its time for her to move on with Adam. And so far he isnt disaapointing her. He's been doing everything for her since that horrid event when he took her baby, even putting her before himself.
I'm team Shadam!
sharbut 1 year ago
@cashmerelover89 Maybe Sharon should have filed for full custody of Noah then while Nick went off to start his new family with Phyllis?
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@sharbut (pt.4) - 4 me, nick's a much better man than adam can ever even try 2 be. i'm not taking sides here. i luv both nick & sharon, but i'm disliking sharon right now, like there was a short time w/ nick (a child's death/sickness can do messed up things 2 ur head - this comes from personal experience of knowing someone whose gone through those things themselves - it ain't easy). this is my own opinion, just like u have 1. i just wanted 2 iron out a few facts, that's all.
team shick 4ever:)
cashmerelover89 1 year ago
i have to say that all of this sanctimonious crap everyone is saying to adam and sharon pisses me off. all of those characters have done just as bad or worse and they have all been redeemed at one time or another. plus what is everyone going to say that adam's own father is responsible for framing him for murder. how i long for the downfall of victor newman
misslilad 1 year ago
@misslilad I completely agree with you. I'm actually rooting for Sharon and Adam to get together and have this whole mess straightened out. Ever since they hooked up I have not once felt sorry for Nick. At all. He totally deserves what's coming to him. Her wishy washy-ness is annoying, but so are the hypocrites who are throwing stones at her. Victor is attempting to frame Adam for murder that did NOT take place. He is just as low as Adam was, if not worse, since he is his father.
USCgirl84 1 year ago 13
All those hypocrites make me sick! At least Adam admit to his mistakes while the others act like their sh*t smell like roses! Nick has hurt both Sharon & Phyllis so much that's it's pathetic. He deserves this! Go Shadam!
dholmes299 1 year ago 2
Also why the hell are they trying to make Nick look all moral when he left Sharon and Noah to grieve for the death of their daughter to run off with that bitch Phyllis and that little mistake Summer. He is the one they need to take the children away from. Also isn't Nick about to sleep with his Dads ex-wife. These people are trash, the only thing I hate about this is they make Sharon look like she doesn't care about her kids.
Trendogg5 1 year ago
You know what, Sharon is an always be my favorite character on Y&R and I think what they are doing to Sharon is the right thing, this will force everyone to stop treating her like a child and protecting her and let her stand on her own and be strong. I think after all this is said and done she will come out strong and independent. I think they should do an article on Phyllis and then all the stuff she previously got away with comes out somehow and she pays for it dearly.
Trendogg5 1 year ago
Is it just me or would a Nick/Ashley story be interesting?
TAMUCC2011 1 year ago
Nikki told that bitch off!!!
LalaAmore232 1 year ago
Love Shadam!
Janniefan222 1 year ago 15
What Nicki said was funny and I liked Sharon's comecback..hanging around Adam too long.
kelsycole 1 year ago
@kelsycole that would be hilarious if Adam's sarcastic sense of humor rubs off on Sharon
USCgirl84 1 year ago
Faith is so darn cute
moila04 1 year ago
Team Shadam, I love Shadam, GO Sharon the best
Nikky/Jack/Phyllis : Hopocrite
ouerdia100 1 year ago 3
sharon is a whore all she care is to have sex,w/out even thinking her children first
bbabes0306 1 year ago
I wonder will Victor man up and tell the truth?
moonlightof1982 1 year ago
@moonlightof1982 Never. He will come out of this smelling like roses (as usual).
vicsze 1 year ago
Nikki the hypocrite! She needs to take her own advice.
moonlightof1982 1 year ago 2
Oh wow do they realize that Sharon is a grown woman and that she can make her own decisions ?
shaniali 1 year ago
@shaniali
you call those decision or carelessness or being unloyal to her family and an hypcrite to Nick. She said that she was ready to marry Nick but she went to New Orleans and met with Adam and all of a sudden she felt a connection
ajeansimon 1 year ago
Are they trying to make SC leave the show ? They are making a hell of a hatchet job on her character ! O_o
shaniali 1 year ago
A motel? GROSS!!!
Sharon what about your daughter?!!
csulastd89 1 year ago
THESE days, Soap writers are sooo bad at their jobs!!!
they ruined my two favourite couples, Ejami and SHICK from DOOL & Y&R..
dontremovemycomments 1 year ago
@dontremovemycomments Its funny that you like Ejami..considering you probably hate Shadam. I like Ejami too but you can't deny that EJ did worse things to Sammi than Adam did to Sharon..
I love Shadam!
sharbut 1 year ago
Just when I think Sharon couldn't be any more stupid....... she opens up her mouth & says some other rubbish in defence of Adam.
vicsze 1 year ago