Attacks on Falun Gong practitioners in New York (report)

[dddd1181]

chinese 

ignorance and stupidity

[MikesMethods]

I hate protesters that get beat up and do nothing. "Oh, poor me, I'm such a victim, somebody please help us..." Until you stand up and fight for what you believe in, you're just a bunch of pussies looking for media attention and sympathizers. Why should I have any respect for your kind?

[Supenmanu]

@MikesMethods: you must find Gandhi and MLK absolutely despicable...

[MikesMethods]

@Supenmanu, well, when MLK made speeches, his people started riots and burned down buildings. Attacked police. They fought for their beliefs. And even today they are feared and respected. Comedians on TV like to use words like wetback, chink, raghead...but you say the word NIGGER, and all hell breaks loose with lawsuits or an old fashion ass whoppin. I don't know enough about Gandhi to comment.

[Supenmanu]

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. So it goes. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.

[MikesMethods]

@Supenmanu, but still very effective. We will never be a perfect race and this will never be the perfect world. Violent actions will be fought with violent actions, but eventually, your enemy will tire of it and leave you alone. I think history has spoke for itself on this matter. Why did America leave Vietnam when it won every battle? Why did Romans allow the Goths space on their territory?

[Topazman12]

And the real victims whom survived the Sichuan earthquake are arrested for demanding Justice. Such as why are the schools and buildings so inferior? Who bribed the officials to turn a blind eye to defects? Once all the evil and corruption of the CCP are exposed it is a big celebration. Time to Free China from the CCP.

[zbnawbc]

It's funny what propaganda can do. This video emphasize on pro-chinese attacking Falun Gong. Reading the comments, there is strong hate on the people attacking the falun gong people. On the other videos, it tells the story of Falun gong people celebrating the earthquake in china and that's why people attacked. There is strong hate on Falun Gong on those videos. If people had a permit to celebrate the earthquake in Haiti , won't you start throwing rocks at them? I would

[Supenmanu]

@ zbnawbc: "It's funny what propaganda can do."

Yes it is... it's sad actually. The Nazis claimed the Jews had celebrated the burning down of the Reichstag. Nero claimed the Christians celebrated the destruction of Rome.

After the people heard those totalitarian regimes framing those innocent religious groups they believed it without question and when they saw Jews or Christians just walking down the street, they started attacking them.

So yea... It's funny what propaganda can do...

[zbnawbc]

@Supenmanu Problem is, I was there, I'm also chinese so I understand what they were saying so I know that they were celebrating, well, unless they were undercover ccp agents right? That might be a whole another issue though.

[ed11561]

On 20 July 1999, the Chinese government declared the Research Society of Falun Dafa and the Falun Gong organization under its control to be outlawed for having been "engaged in illegal activities, advocating superstition and spreading fallacies, hoodwinking people, inciting and creating disturbances, and jeopardizing social stability."

WHAT FUCKING NONSENSE.AREN'T THE CHINESE THE 1'S THAT HAD A CULTURAL REVOLUTION DESTROYING ART-HISTORY

PEOPLE-DOCTORS-TEACHERS-ETC.?

SICK BASTARDS.

[Topazman12]

China is the greatest Country in the World without the Chinese Communist Party. Every smart Chinese person knows that Chinese Culture is NOT the Chinese Communist Party.

[72dew]

there were no chinese communist party, whole china would just be out of control and no improvement on anything (economy...), lots of people dont consider that there are 1,300,000,000 people in one country, thats one fifth of the whole world.

[BiReal]

@72dew Hi again, please it was the communist economic system that put the country into poverty in the first place, who has written your history books, now they are doing what they could have done 60 years ago, without 80 million deaths, and you give the credit to the murderer.

[busha5a5a5]

biased translations; he did not say I'll kill you. This was not a death threat.

[Supenmanu]

But they are yelling "die Falun Gong!" etc. don't they?

[busha5a5a5]

@Supenmanu

yes true.

[longshanlung]

@busha5a5a5 He did say I'll kill you, then a lady was 來吧, "come on" and he got angry and pull poster;

[busha5a5a5]

pro communists? pro chinese.

[Supenmanu]

I am German and i am proud of Germany... only thing is i don't like socialism, and i don't like hate, and i don't like labor camps and i don't like socialist Parties destroying, perverting and ruining a country and it's traditions... it is precisely because i care for a country's culture... but the Nazi would label me "Anti German" and persecute me, does that make sense? They twisted the concepts of country and Party around... i am against (National) socialism, but not against the country...

[busha5a5a5]

@Supenmanu

Falun Gong isn't Chinese culture, it's bullshit.

[eroddy84]

@busha5a5a5 FG Is REAL Chinese Culture. Communism is not real Chinese Culture it came from Eastern Europe. It has Nothing to do with China and no real links. In reality China has a long beautiful history of Virtue and high moral Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism are all deeply rooted in Real Chinese Culture. Falun Gong is a teaching of the Buddhist School and is Very ancient therefore it is more REAL Chinese culture than anything to do with Communism which is new compared to Chinas history.

[busha5a5a5]

@eroddy84

I beg to differ, Falun Gong is not Traditional, it came into existence in 1992. It is contemporary, it is in no way traditional. I have never said that Communism is Chinese Culture, I didn't even slightly suggest that it was culture. It's a political ideology. Eastern Europe? The Communist Manifesto was published in Germany, which is central, not eastern Europe. Buddhism is Indian. Falun Gong is not buddhist, it is bullshit. Ancient? 1992. Communism? 1949 Which is first? 1949 or 1992?

[eroddy84]

It certainly IS deeply rooted in Buddhist beliefs. Yes originally Buddhism Came from India but it has influenced most Asian countries where it spread. Buddhism spread to China an Extremely Long time ago. If you read the book you would be able to find out the truth,

[eroddy84]

@busha5a5a5 @busha5a5a5 Falun Gong IS an Ancient Cultivation Practice deeply rooted in Buddhist ideology It is extremely old and was passed down from one Master to a chosen disciple until 1992 when Mr Li Hongzhi made it public. Falun Gong previous to that was unknown publicly but it certainly DID exist.

[busha5a5a5]

@eroddy84

You got no proof.

[eroddy84]

@busha5a5a5 Its a fact..Read the book then you'll know the reality ..

[busha5a5a5]

@eroddy84

I don't want to spend money on a book, how about you prove me that Li Hongzhi didn't make everything up and released his creation in 1992?

[hcn9]

FUCK FALUN GONG

[czrsilp]

Communist thugs in American soil? Thanks Mr.President for selling amrican freedon to communist.

[PossibleInfost]

I am Happy Chinese people realize that Falun Gong is evil and merely a failed attempt to crush the Communist Party just because the leader was hated by the communist Party. For your information, China is not communist anymore for all those ignorant people out there. I am happy China is strong now so they can use their "so called" communist identity to mask its growing capabilities. Die Falun Gong Die. Stupid Falun Gong brainwashing little kids and teaching them to jump buildings.

[Supenmanu]

@PossibleInfost: ... I am quite speachles... my point in uploading this video was to expose the effects of the Communist Party's hate propaganda against Falun Gong - but you just exposed it better than the video could ever have...

[PossibleInfost]

Guess I did your job for you then :) Die Falun Gong!

[Deuszxable]

Pro-communists? These are just overseas Chinese!

[eroddy84]

@Deuszxable Overseas chinese can be Strongly influenced by their government regardless of where they are.

[imthepowerer5000]

i belive in rendering wat is due ur only showing ur need for psycological examination wishing death to anyone is itself selfish and evil when u clearly dont have a clear cut idea of wat the truth is ur in no shape to say wat is evil ur way of thinking isnt the only way stop spouting randomly about things u have little understanding or knowledge of democracy is also as shady as communism true freedom is without words they arnt needed we know freedom in the heart and u slander it with ignorance

[PossibleInfost]

Your words are ignorance. You are defending Falun Gong using democracy. Thereby ruining the good name of democracy by associating it with such a deceiving cult. You uphold democracy, while promoting the freedom-- freedom to kill and ruin innocent lives under the pitiful name of Falun Gong.

[JHP717]

It's you who's ignorant of our laws. It doesn't matter if they are a cult, the 1rst amendment allows them to excercise free speech. Assaulting non-threatening people is a crime, and those Chinese men should be arrested for assaulting peaceful demonstrators. When did Falun Gong practicioners kill people? I think they are a religious cult too, but as long as they are peaceful demonstrators, we cannot lay a single finger on them. And by the way China is a communist country, get your facts right.

[PossibleInfost]

why am i getting so many thumbs up then?

[Supenmanu]

Why are comments like "Die Falun Gong!" getting so many tumbs up you ask? That's simple... i made it a video response to a video from the Chinese Communist Party that spreads hatred against Falun Gong. If you post the same comment on any of my other videos i am sure you will get thumbs down...

[JHP717]

Well PossibleInfrost, such issue is a very emotional issue, and people do not want to accept the fact that freedom of speech is a gauranteed right that no one can stop. They may counter-protest, but it is a crime to assault on peaceful demonstrators. And another fact is that a lot of Chinese communists hate Falun Gong, and those people who read your comments are giving you those thumbs up. Otherwise, I can't understand why any sane, freedom loving American would agree with you.

[PossibleInfost]

freedom of speech only works in certain parts of the world. If it was really that important the whole world would have it by now. It all depends on the way a nation's people are taught through generations of rule and government.

[BiReal]

@PossibleInfost Well i think you illustrated the problem here, and perhaps it is you who should take a look in the mirror.

[APandBS]

I personally dont think I would act much different, it is emotions I dont think either side should be held solely responsible...its just hot blood, however FG didnt need to have a parade at that time unless they were looking for trouble....for example seeing pakistani nutcases burning the Union Flag (UK) pissed me off (but there were no parades from pakistanis in UK at the time so you cool off...but FG take a parade at this time even they know most chinese hate them...just trying to get a rise

[APandBS]

I personally don't like how this video states "overseas Chinese" tho it accuses Communist instigators of causing the trouble. If someone tells you someone is defaming your country in this way (ie being told the earthquke is "karma" and god punished your country, im sure you'd be pretty pissed at the time...unless you are less than dirt and have no feeling for your country, but then your going to hell anyway ; )...

[Supenmanu]

/watch?v=1_CwAG9ZF9U

[FreeTheTruth1]

it's pointless to argue with a Falun gong following because they are brain washed and just say the same thing over and over.

[Supenmanu]

/watch?v=1_CwAG9ZF9U

[Supenmanu]

well if ya all saying the same all over i again - than i can only give ya the same answers all over again (-:

[Supenmanu]

Do you honestly believe that? Why, do you believe it? Because the Communist Party claims so? We both know that this is mere propaganda. Nobody was happy because of the earthquake - on the contrary everyone was extremely sad. The Communist Party used that sadness and transformed it into hatred against their victims by claiming what you just said.

[Supenmanu]

The term "conspiracy" should not be applied to us but rather to those who plot to foment hatred against decent and worthy people, those who shout for the blood of the innocent and plead forsooth in justification of their hatred the foolish excuse that the Christians are to blame for every disaster and every misfortune that befalls the people. If the river rises, if the sky withholds its rain, if there is earthquake or famine or plague, straightway the cry arises: "The Christians to the lions!"

[FreeTheTruth1]

this scuffle is due to Falun Gong followers holding signs that support or were happy that the big earthquake hit china. That's why other chinese there were angry at them. Example of a sign at 2:19. Looks like the narrator is not telling the full story here and looks like the falun gongs provoked this kind of assult on them. That's kinda heartless of them to not feel any sympathy to all the earthquake victims that are innocent.

[Supenmanu]

The term "conspiracy" should not be applied to us but rather to those who plot to foment hatred against decent and worthy people, those who shout for the blood of the innocent and plead forsooth in justification of their hatred the foolish excuse that the Christians are to blame for every disaster and every misfortune that befalls the people. If the river rises, if the sky withholds its rain, if there is earthquake or famine or plague, straightway the cry arises: "The Christians to the lions!"

[FreeTheTruth1]

you guys are heartless.  we are talking about innocent people here and you guys put up signs like that. anyone would be angry with this falun gong act.

[Supenmanu]

"Falun Gong followers holding signs that support or were happy that the big earthquake hit china"

Do you honestly believe that? Why, do you believe it? Because the Communist Party claims so? We both know that this is mere propaganda. Nobody was happy because of the earthquake - on the contrary everyone was extremely sad. The Communist Party used that sadness and transformed it into hatred against their victims by claiming what you just said.

[APandBS]

To be fair, although I believe Falun Gong is a potentially dangerous cult like Scientology, the signs are not "anti-Chinese" they are more "anti-Communist" the sign at 0:19 says Tian(heaven/god) you (bless) Zhonghua (Chinese people) 天佑 中华 there is another sign saying Tian (heaven/god) mie (destroy) Zhonggong (Chinese communist) 天灭 中共. How much trouble you want to make out of that will affect the result of any actions...

[TaiwanOwnsChina]

fuckin CCP minions. These pro-CCP biatchs have no idea what repressive regime they're supporting. they deserve some first hand experience in torture that Falun Gong/TIbet/Democracy activists face in the hands of CCP to understand.

[Supenmanu]

No they don't! If someone punches you - and you punch him back - you wouldn't be any better than him. And please stop isulting people. If you continue to insult people i will block you. I know that you are not actually on our side here and i know what you are trying to do - and i told you before: just stop it...

[nicksum29]

The bullies always choose the weakest of the weak to attack and jeer at. They are such cowards: as soon as someone strong appears, they run away like little children.

[Flutenatic]

Well I'm taking the great wall off the things I wanted to see before I die.

[nicksum29]

Oh, don't worry. China is just full of national pride right now. The bubble will pop sooner or later - like all patriotic and nationalistic movements. Just give it time. The next generation will be different, and embarrassed of the last one.

[Studiokaa]

I always knew this is the true face of the pro-communist Chinese and the CCP. Preying on the old, women, and the weak. Wow you guys are so strong and powerful.

[lobdet]

Indeed my friend.

[Mikrodasende]

Destroy Falun Gong! The "pro-comunists" chineses are really better.

[Supenmanu]

mmmhh... you remind me of a time which i would have rather left forgotten...