but in case of the Bible is a different story where we can see alot of story that it doesnt make any sense and if we agree it makes sense doesnt really solve the problem, example the story of Simpson who killed a 1000 men who was on the roof, and killed hundreds of people with a stick, but then what was the wisdom behind this story that the mankind or even the christian could learn from the violent story!!!!!
We Muslims Read the Quran and understand, and we never lie about it because its a word of God, and we believe in every verse and word it, we believe Quran is a complete book for all mankind at any single time (No time limitation) so Yes, Quran Talks about peace, and it has some violence verses with a limitation to specific events happened and in case it happens, teaches us how we can deal with any situation we counter and this is the perfection.
how can anyone believe a murderous anti woman demon possessed serial killer like "st paul" who never even met jesus?
a man who used to have the original followers of jesus KILLED as he opposed their group....but as killing them never stopped the movement what did he do?
he invented a whole new sect to oppose the followers of jesus, they eventually branched out to become christianity as we know it today.
this is why muslims oppose as christianity & bible has mixed things up
@prototype00000 Wow. Who killed more people, Paul or Muhammad? The problem with you Muslims is you are ignorant. Someone says he is a Christian and commits crime you say it's in the bible but if Muslims behead someone and shouts praises to your demon god you say it's not in the Qur'an. Who you fooling!
paul killed innocent believers as he opposed the followers of jesus. he never converted instead he invented a new deviant sect to oppose the followers of jesus which is todays "loving" (violent) christianity
also christians bury their heads in the sands that god ordered capital punishment and war 3000 years ago in the bible, when muslims say god ordered it 1400 yrs ago the christians have a heart attack or seizure exposing the biggest hypocrisy of all time
Paradise will have things which we can't imagine of, not to forget that if we have wives here which are good for us and the similar for women having husbands whom are good to them. These people will be reunited in paradise, right? In which there's peace among things which we cannot imagine of, may Allah make us among the people of Jannah. So that we would live this life well (as it's meant to be lived) and achieve our true goal. Aamen.
Why does Sam attempt to show that Muslims are going to Paradise with 70 whoories when he only references to the Quran talking about women have swelling breasts? Lol. Where is the reference in the Quran talking about the 70 whoories Sam is talking about?
3. anyone would have been punished for. But overtime leaving Islam was just associated with the whole death thing from that hadith, but really the guy COMMITTED CRIMES and left Islam. So should that be asociated with sharia well many Muslim leaders today argue about that one. So no compulsion in religion, debate over death penaly, and ppl will live under sharia but not killed because there is no compulsion in Islam. So dont judge Islam by the actions of muslims becuz they may not be good example
@3rabsalimush There's no compulsion in religion, doesn't mean that when Muslims have achieved the truth and recognize it as such that there wouldn't be any compulsion. As we cannot have other gods besides God, that could be a compulsion for someone, who would want to adore/love someone else more than God. As if we replace someone else and take God as second, we are committing Shirk as you brother/sister may know already.
I would like to say that I'm not attacking you, nor am I trying to offend
@3rabsalimush you. But the truth is that we have a set of rules which we have to hold on, if we're Muslims we should know them, if not then we wouldn't be accounted due to our ignorance about things. But if we know that certain thing is bad for us and we commit something such as adultery, we're breaking the laws of Allah. There's a responsibility in religion, if someone only says that "there's no compulsion in religion" and taking it as "you can do whatever, when you're a Muslim because God says
@ThePatientMuslim Salam yes i understand what you mean and i was merely reffering to non muslims not to Muslims. but yes of course you cannot just be Muslim by name but you must commit to the religion. But thank you for the words of intellect and wisdom and may Allah guide those who have gone astray and those who believe but do not commit to the religion. Salam Aleikum
Wa Alaikum Assalaam wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh, may Allah bring us mercy in the ways which we live as well as in the ways we speak to each other. Aamen.
There's no compulsion in religion, as we're not forcing our deen to others. But there are rules and rules must be followed, if your not following them we will be taken on account about those things. Thus there's a certain compulsion of following rules, for the Muslims. We cannot say that "we believe this and this, from the Qur'an but then we don't believe in this".
I hope that you got my meaning, forgive me if I came to you in a bad way. Peace.
Eww some of the think in the bible is kinda gross.
girls sleeping with their father, god shadowing over Mary. And the childrens book was the worst part AND IT WAS TOTALLY INCONTEXT WHICH IS EVEN WORSE. plz Christians read the Quran.
@3rabsalimush You know what. You're right, let me read the Quran. Lets see... Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” Oh snap. No ..no thanks. Jesus never ordered anyone to be killed. I'll stick with my Lord. The son of God, the ONLY way to heaven.. Jesus Christ
@BankBeatsMusic hello Umm like i said lol like two weeks ago its must be kept in context. You taking a verse out of context doesnt prove you right. The previous verses talks about those who are trying to fight and kill you. Also the very next verse, verse 90 says "but if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace, allah allows you no way against them." So yes we can fight but in defense not offense. Plz understand that. Thanks gooday
@3rabsalimush Let's not act like that. Stop trying to hide the terrible Islam zit on the face of the Earth. Answer two questions for me... If Islam wants Sharia Law for all countries what must happen? Christians and Jews must be exterminated right? Next question - what's the penalty for a child who wants to leave Islam? Let me know. I've seen Copts get burned alive because they won't convert to Islam. I'm not buying into your evil satanic cult of a religion
@BankBeatsMusic Hello again Hmm okay so you would rather believ in media islam than Islam Islam. Well, for the record. There is a prophecy that says Islam will be the reigning religion but that doesnt mean that jews and christians will be wiped out lol. You will all live under sharia wwhich by the way most people with PhD's in comparative studies say sharia is 98% the same as Jewish law and ppl claim jesus was a jew right. So we really practice relatively the same law so it shouldnt be hard.
@BankBeatsMusic 2. And technically Islam was the first religion to give rights specifically to minorites. Especially the Jews and Christians because you guys are the people of the book. We recognize that your religion has SOME truth. The quran explicetly states "let there be no compulsion in this religion." meaning i cant force anyone to convert to Islam. Also the whole death if you leave Islam thats not in the Quran, that comes from a hadith of a guy who left Islam but he did other things that
@BankBeatsMusic That is what one does in war. It talking about killing an enemy who attacks you. Your bible says kill apostates, and that a man can have sex with a war captive.
@islamictvdotcom No it doesn't. You're reaching now. Actually that's in the Old Testament, correct me if I'm wrong but don't Muslims believe the Old Testament is true? Didn't Muhammad murder, and have sex with a nine year old? Didn't "Allah" say he'd rather a man sin, and not be sinless?
Jesus said,"If anyone would come after me he must deny himself take up his cross and follows me" LUK9;23.Jesus teaches us self denial, but shabir with high excitement agrees that he and and others muslims will be getting 72virgins for sex.in paradise.it is not a GLORIFIED WHOREHOUSE, but mohamad wanted heaven to be like that. "BUT THOSE WHO R CONSIDERED WORTHY OF TAKING PART IN THAT AGE AND IN THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD WILL NEITHER MARRY NOR B GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, THEY R LIKE ANGELS"LK20:34.
Thats not self denial, thats sadism. God creates women, food and yet want ppl to hate it. Heaven is reward and God rewards his good servants like father gifts his sons toys,clothes etc.
@vineandthebranch luke 20:34NEITHER MARRY NOR B GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, THEY R LIKE ANGELS, what about genesis 6 talk about sons of god have sex doughters of men.
@vineandthebranch hahaha you idiot christians speak as if sex, food etc are bad things?? god is giving us rewards fool as we have obeyed him in this life he sees fit that we can do whatever we want in the next life as we have earned it. i ask you again what is wrong with sex? if sex is so bad why were you born and why do/will you have kids?? you guys dont apply logic to your answers
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 a fundamental difference between me and you is the belief in this statement "we can do whatever we want in the next life as we have earned it". Certainly this is 100% the opposite of what is expressed in the bible.
Sam clarifies clearly that God is talking about Judah and Israels' unfaithfulness in Ezekiel..The God of the Bible feels like a hurted lover when His people commits sin, not like mohamds bully god who encourages people to encourage in carnality and sensuality even after death...Where in the New Testament it says,to indulge in sensuality on earth..? The KIng of Kings Jesus taught us the opposite"If your right eye causes you to sin gouge it out and throw it away, "mathew5:29
It is sad to see people from 2 faiths argue and mock each others as if they belong to two political parties. The above debate clearly gives out the message for those who are intelligent to decide who was right and what is acceptable by God ...so let it increase our faith and move on. Avoid mocking others. Follow the true teachings.
this is the best debate after the death of Ahmed deedat rahimalaah,this guy (sam) is arrogant but brother shabir give him a lesson that he will never forget,who next mr wood and his dog qureshi.
The verse 78:33 uses the word أترابا which is translated as "swelling breasts" by some people. Try google translate for this word, there is only one meaning given, which is "Equal age".
Here is the tafseer of Maududi
"TMs may mean that they will be of equal age among themselves as well as that they will be of equal age with their husbands. This same theme has already occurred in Surah Suad 52 and Al-Waqi`ah :37 above. "
it's too bad that Shabir Ally does harp on people who don't know the Bible, or spiritual parables and metaphors from the scriptures, or they would at least look ahead and read the whole chapter (and elsewhere in the Bible) where "adultery" against God is going after idols and other gods. For instance, Israel is the wife, God is the husband, and the idols are the ones Israel cheats with. If you're still in doubt, at least read verse 37 where it says it plainly for those who have trouble with it
when you grow up and have kids read the ezkiel;23 tell them about the gigantic penises and once you make your children? imagination perverted tell them you didnt mean to pervert there minds, because the verses are not literal...according to sam shamoun..lol
@pamuk7 What you are failing to put together is the context of what is being discussed. In Ezekiel, the graphic imagery is meant to describe a sin, and to reprimand a sinner. While the virgins described by the quran are a pornographic promise. He says what do you think we will be doing in paradise and the points to the nephilim, which are FALLEN ANGELS as examples to hold to! Surely muhammad was duped by lucifer to spread his domain.
@particle58 oh cut the crap LOL ,trying to tell me how spiritual Ezekiel is and that its describing a sin ? plz GTFO ,when i ask u who did this sin ? ur answer is going to be a messenger of God ezikiel ,then who did he did it with? and ur answer is gonna be WITH HIS DAUGHTERS LOL , use ur brain for once in ur life , this is God's messengers we're supposed to follow and imitate they're chosen by God ,, so according to u if u learnt ur lesson from the bible ur going to have sex with ur daughter
@b2bb55 you should actually read chapter 23 of Ezekiel - the whole thing - and see for yourself that, like in other places of the Bible, God is calling Jerusalem and Samaria whores for going after the idols of the Gentiles.
@particle58 2nd i cant tolerate stupidity but i'll try sam said Angels cant have sex and that there is no sex in heaven ,shabir showed him FROM YOUR BOOK that there is sex in heaven ,but you're just desperate and cant find an answer so all u can say is u guys r from lucifer Bla Bla LOOL , u cant even come with a logical answer , but dont get me wrong i feel sorry for you , you got owned so hard from ur own book , there is no coming back so the easiest way out is to insult the prophet LOL noobs
Vote thumps up, if you think this is a pornographic verse.
(Bible: Ezekiel 23:20-21 NIV)''There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emissionwas like that of horses.
21) So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.
anyhow debates arent battles or fights they are simply seeking of knowledge so we shouldnt say that sam is himiliated or owned or other words of this type because the porpuse isnt to fight with arguments but to enlighten with arguements
deuteremony If a man dies without having a child, his brother shall "go in unto" his dead brother's wife. If he refuses, the dead man's wife is to loosen his shoe and spit in his face. 25:5-10
If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28 deuteremony
@prototype00000 In the middle east, if a man has sex with a woman outside of marraige, even if its consentual, if you are muslim or christian, doesn't matter, the girl is branded as a whore, and the man a rapist.
The only righteous thing for the man to do after raping a woman is to marry her.
Too bad in the west, non-marital sex is encouraged, if it was a little like the middle east,we'd have less fatherless households, less aids, less people on welfare, more honor, etc.
no, the the man would be executed in sharia law if he is a rapist, he would not be rewarded in getting to marry his victim. you are 100% wrong.
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise(B) as some count slowness, but(C) is patient toward you,[a](D) not wishing that any should perish, but(E) that all should reach repentance." 2nd peter 3.9
are you saying this contradicts the previous versus? or are you just saying god wishes (not wills which is different) people are saved?
@prototype00000if the man is to be executed under Sharia law, then why in pakistan or afghanistan the woman is jailed, and the man set free?
The OT says that he should be executed too. Quran has copied the OT. Jesus changed everything as he fulfilled Jer 31:31 Giod will make a NEW COVENANT with his people. Jesus said, he that is without sin cast the first stone. So if you want to stay in the OT, or Sharia law, maybe you should stand in line to get stoned for your sins?
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
new testament on muhammad. off course some argue the holy spirit but where is it? ive not HEARD anything from the spirit so its a lie
@prototype00000 If you are so fond of Sharia law then, why don't you be true to your belief; stand in line to get stoned for your sins. Have you ever lied, stolen anything, committed adultery, coveted? If you have then, please give us the proper example, and volunteer to get stoned. You should practice what you preach. Please don't hide behind the laws of the UK. In fact all believers in Sharia law should volunteer to show other musmils that there is no bias in Islam. only Jesus can save you.
firstly you have judged me for being a sinner by telling me to stand in line for my sins. how do you know ive sinned worthy of capital punishment or limb cutting?
Why when i quoted you the NEW testament and the versus jesus says of hell you brought up 1 contradicting verse from the OLD testament? but now you say its the NEW testament you follow?
@prototype00000 My friend, you have no exccuse, you have a copy of the Bible, so please read it, and stop asking these questions, you will find all the answers in the New Test. What was the 1 contradicting verse? please give me that verse.
@prototype00000 I said that if the man had sex with the woman, rape or by consent he is still branded as a rapist, they would say " he '______" the girl. I would not be satisfied with the Allah of the Quran, because I need to be loved by my creator, such as the love demonstrated by Jesus. And I accept that love, and he wishes that I accept that love. If you are satisfied with the Allah of the Quran, then so be it.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
now;
How they will children and wives in heaven !!
why they do not read their bible ? they believe that they will be like angles without physical bodies but even the angles can get married in the bible (Genesis 6:1-4 )
The number 72 houris is not mentioned in the Quran .
@IslamResponses Jesus said that you will have a hundredfold, for those that left everything and preached the Gospel of Jesus. The wives and children are the people that you helped save. Just like Jesus said, he that does the will of my Father , the same is my mother, brother and sister. Do you understand now?
Jesus said(29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.)
now what is the meaning of wife for you?
any clever person can guess what this mean? what a husband and wife do in their normal life?
they will live like brothers and sisters?!!
"Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare ..(Genesis 4:1)
According to most Churchian doctrine, there is NO SEX in Heaven, as according to them sex was a "direct result of the fall of man into sin!" So these angels had also "fallen into sin", or or
became fallen angels "in the very horrible act", and as a result must have grown sex organs on the spot, "these evil sprouting manifestations of their impure thoughts", like Adam and Eve had when they obeyed the serpent—
the Devil—who promptly gave them these luscious sinful juicy horny sex organs, "so they could "suffer" Churchy abstinence and condemnation!" Ha! How ridiculous can you get!When these so-called "fallen angels" came down or manifested themselves in earthly forms and dimensions, and flirted with those pretty "fallen" girls of men, the obedient angels must have been spitefully watching from Above with blushing faces,
listening to all these wonderful moaning and ecstatic sounds that these "fallen girls" and no doubt these "fallen angels" were making down there, while they came together in Angelic Orgasms! Whew!
You can just imagine how insanely jealous these "goodie goodie" angels must have been, as jealous as today's Churchians secretly are of our sex-crazed world! As jealous as when they must have watched Adam meet Eve for the first time,
NO WAY MAN! She shook his little hand! Ha! And it quickly began to grow! And it wasn't long before Adam and Eve were going at it, right there in the Garden of Eden.
Really you are funny, the sons of God (angels )had sex with women ! also the god of the bible ate at Abrahm's house and you believe he has a son(jesus ) which means he had sex with a women as the Mormons believe , and do not tell me it is a spiritual son , why do you call him son in the first place!
@IslamResponses Paul was hand picked by Jesus, read it in Acts. Muslims hate Paul because he proves who Jesus is better than anybody else. Even Peter gives Paul credit. Islam hates Paul because they have no writings that can compare to Paul's , in knowledge, revelations from Jesus, spiritual understanding, the Quran cannot compare, it’s a very poor book. If God, the Holy Spirit was not with Paul, then he could not have written anything. Paul the biggest persecutor, converted.
@IslamResponses Jesus said " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me" He said that he will return, and to watch and wait for him ONLY, and nobody else. Jesus said in John 4;22, " salvation is through the Jews ".
this makes Mohamad a false prophet anyway, because he is not Jewish. Jesus' words and actions prove that he is God's son, Mohamad's words and actions prove that he is from Satan.
What you are trying to prove the divinity of Jesus !!these biblical verses do not prove anything at all, the same thing prophet muhammad said( if you obey me, you obey God) does this mean he is God !
no
and many brothers refuted these verses on YT such as:(pamuk7 & Sami zataari)
as for John 4:22:
this issue has been refuted by many other biblical texts, which throw suspicion as to whether or not this statement was actually uttered by Jesus,
@IslamResponses Yea, you really have to cut up the Bible, to justify your crazy position. Jeremiah 31:31. You're right God will make a new covanant. Islam and Old Test are very similar. So the New Covanant must be the New Testamant, read Hebrews to understand.
The prophet Elijah said: "He said, “I have been very jealous for the LORD, the God of hosts. For the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, throwndown your altars, and killed your prophets with the sword, and I, even I only, am left, and they seek my life, to take it away." (1Kings: 19/10).
God's description of them in the prophet Ezekiel's Book is the same:
until he lifted the blessing from them, and exchanged it with his curses and revenge (Malachi: 2/1-3).
When Jesus (PBUH) came he called Jerusalem : “OJerusalem , Jerusalem , the city that kills the prophets” (Matthew: 23/37) because of the number of God's honorable prophets whom they had killed on its soil. Read also (Matthew:
23/13-37).
For that, God deprived them from being the nation who the next promised prophet will come from, because they broke the promise and covenant of God. ,
@IslamResponses Jesus said in John 4:22, salvatuion is through the Jews. This verse alone makes Mohamad a fraud. Read book of Hebrews in New Test to see who Jesus really is.
I have refuted this argument so repeating the same argument only shows you have no argument to defend as i said before so thanks for proving my points about you, and thanks for using foul languages, we used to that, all of you when they loose the argument the only way to respond since they have no response is using foul languages .
Now go back to Moses:
Prophet Muhamamd was the son of Ishmael , and everyone knows that :
while you claim that Jesus is divine, and that refutes every similarity.
Jesus described the expected prophet to be similar to Moses, driving it away from himself, he said; “Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one that accuses you, Moses, on whom you haveset your hope. If you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?(John: 5/45-47)
Jesus always told his disciples to not tell anyone who he was, because he had to accomplish his mission of dying for us first.
Jesus’ words;Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen, and have the keys of death and hell.
John 15:5 for without me ye can do nothing". Only God can say this.
The main reason that the Jews hated Jesus (PBUH) was that he confronted them with the truth. He told them that God's kingdom and His choice will be taken away from them, and given to another nation. In order to prove that, we have to go back to the first time they tried to kill him. That is when he told them about the prophet Elijah, leaving the children of Israel's widows for a Sidon widow,
for a Sidon widow, and that the prophet Joshua cleansed Neman the Assyrian without cleansing the rest of the leprous that were among the children of Israel. (See Luke: 4/25-27).The result was that “When they heard these things, all in the synagogue were filled with wrath. And they rose up and drove him out of the town and brought him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they could throw him down the cliff." (Luke: 4/28- 29),
@IslamResponses Jews wanted to kill Jesus for this reason too; John 10:33 The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that thou being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus also said, Before Abraham was, " I am ". they were going to stone him there too. Only God can say " I am "
This description, of being like Moses, is a fact can fit only our prophet Muhammad, and not Jesus (peace and blessings be upon all of them). There are many similarities between Moses.
Moses’ and Muhammad’s (PBUT) natural birth, their marriage, both came with a statute, both were sent with swords over their enemy, each of them lead his nation, and became a king, and both were human,
John 10:33-35 (American Standard Version) 33 The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
so Jesus correct their misunderstanding and told them:
(Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods
the so called divinity of Jesus was refuted by brother sami Zatari and brother:pamuk7
here is a debate between brother Sami and sam:
watch?v=ZHzq4NIL2YY
and i gave you before a link for a video refutation about the false divinity of Jesus.
The message of Jesus was pure and simple, the complete submission and surrender to God alone. He preached the religion of Islam; he fasted and prayed in the manner taught by the Prophets before him
@IslamResponses Muslims can win debates against Christians, I am not impressed. I have the Bible. And Jesus said that his words shall not pass away, his words prove who he is.
After all of your knowledge of the Bible, and you still reject that Jesus died for man's sins, therefore from now, I will turn you over to Satan, that you learn not to blaspheme.
Paul rejected these laws and concocted his own religion, claiming “salvation comes through faith only” (sound familiar?) and not physical action or bodily prayer.
The Bible teaches the exact opposite, the stories of the Prophets teach us that salvation is attained through fasting, physical prayer, and righteous deeds, not just having faith, which is merely an article required in any organized religion.
@IslamResponses Jesus always did an excellent job of shutting up the nay sayers. remember Jesus said that Moses wrote of me. So you see, Jesus said that Moses wrote of me. How much proof do you need. You're deleting 99% of the New Tert just to justify a crimianl like Moahmad.
and that was the beginning of the hate between the Jews and Jesus (PBUH).
Now I ask you, did the nation that was threatened by prophets deserve that the blessing and prophet-hood remain with it? If the answer is no then which nation is the selected and chosen one? Who else could be, except the nation that was promised the blessing many times, from the offspring of Ishmael (PBUH)?
add to that:
There are much more prophecies and logical points proved how such statement is so fuzzy.
@IslamResponses Nice, you're picking for God, who deserves prophethood. The Bible says that the Jews are evil and desrve nothing, BUT because God made a promise to Abraham, in Genesis, you know the verses. God is calling Abraham's seed through Isaac. God keeps his promises, not because the Jews are good. Anyway, read the New Test, and get all your questions answered there.
You acknowledge the existence of these prophecies and affirm that they indicate the coming of "the final prophet" or "the great prophet"; however, you still insist that he is a man who is a descendant from the children of Israel . you claim that he is Jesus (PBUH) son of Mary, while the Jews are still expecting him.
Such as:
A prophet like Moses, From the brothers of the Israelites and God will put His words in the mouth of this prophet
@IslamResponses Isaiah 7;14 A virgin shall conceive. Isaiah 9;6 For unto us a child is born, The Mighty God. The Quran states that Jesus is virgin born, it confirms Isaiah saying that this child is God. Or is your Quran Greek mythology? Only Jesus in the history of mankind was virgin born, read Isaiah 53 to see that only Jesus could have fulfilled all the Messianic prophecies. It's 1 in Zillion, zillio, zillions, that anybody else can fulfill the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah.
I told you brother sami zatari and pamuk7 have refuted the sam call divinity of Jesus , here is the refutation of brother pamuk7:
watch?v=JAUACt9r7VY
you will find my comment on his video as well i wrote:
Isaiah 7:1-23
says:
1And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could_ not prevail against it....
3Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son......5Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying,
6Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal: 7Thus saith the Lord GOD, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.......
and within threescore and five years_ shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.....
14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
There is more than 700 years between Jesus and Isaiah, and the lord promised Isiah that , within 65 years ,Israel and Syria will loose the war. and the sign for that is : a virgin shall conceive, and bear_ a son, in the old versions of Torah
in the old versions of Torah such as: ترجمة أيكوئلا وترجمة تهيودوشن ، وترجمة سميكس they used a young lady instead of Virgin.
Anyway he could not respond on brother Sami, and he wont be able to bring a single biblical verse to prove Jesus is God.
as for Jesus was sinless etc unfortunately according to the bible he was not .
he was a foul mouthed person ,a hypocrite calling all of the non-Jews as "the Jews dogs" and then within a second changing his mind and position regarding it.
@IslamResponses He called the woman dog, because he was using symbolic language, read the verse after that. To what Jewish woman did Jesus say, Oh woman, great is thy faith. You hate paul, because the Quran is a useless book compared to Paul's writings. Paul confirms all of Jesus words and testimony. Give me the Quran in one verse, and just compare it to John 3:16, the Bible in one verse, no match. night and day.
yes indeed because you believe that Paul writings and his greeting to his family as holy as the word of god!
did god command Paul to write this؟
)23 And I do all things for the gospel's sake, that I may be a joint partaker thereof.)
and he became indeed! 5 and salute the church that is in their house. Salute Epaenetus my beloved, who is the first-fruits of Asia unto Christ. 6 Salute Mary, who bestowed much labor on you
@IslamResponses Read Acts, and see how the biggest persecutor of the church, became the hardest working apostle of Jesus. Jesus says, in Acts that Paul is a chosen vessel unto me, he will be a great witness unto me. Since you don't belive 99% of the New Test. stay in the Quran.
and he was baptised by John which means he was born as a sinless, he made his mother unclean .
you can watch this video about his sins:
watch?v=IhQM-Q6ca5I
as for paul, i have very good debate about Paul and another video from an ex christian who studied the different visions and books of the bible and i do believe that brother(MuslimBychoice) has very good video debates about him:
I watched Shabir before in another debate, he is a liar, he said that Stephen in the book of Acts was stoned because of Moses and not Jesus, If you read Acts 7:52 you will see that the Jews attacked Stephen right after he accused the Jews of murdering Jesus. this is proof that Shabir is a liar.Jesus said that there is no marriage in heaven.So where the Quran got multilpe women from, For me the Bible in one verse is this- John 3:16, everything else is secondary,
Jesus called the expected prophet “the awaited for or the expected Moses” due to his similarity with Moses.
He is illiterate, cannot read nor write, and the revelation that comes to him is a verbal revelation, unlike the written books that came to the prophets before him “and I will put my words in his mouth;”
and Jesus (PBUH) was able to read (See Luke: 4/16-18). 5) He will be able to deliver his message completely,
andhe shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.". Which is a description that matches Muhammad (PBUH), as in what was revealed to him in the later parts of the Quran when God said: {This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion} (Al-Maeda: 3).
It is impossible that Jesus (PBUH) is that prophet who delivers all what God commands him; as
Jesus (PBUH) was lifted to God when he still had Jesus
However, he gave them prophecies of the next prophet who will tell them the whole truth, because he is the prophet whose message will be completed and nothing will prevent him delivering his message. Jesus said (PBUH):“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own authority; but whatever he hears he will speak, ....... “(John: 16/12-13).
@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said. This proves that moahamd is false.
@IslamResponses Deut 18:18 I will raise them a prophet from among your brethren ( Israel ) like unto thee ( Jew ). Now Mohammad was not from Israel. And like unto thee means, like Moses, Jewish. Use your common 5th grade sense, was Mohammad like Moses, a Jew? Was Mohamed from Israel?
@IslamResponses Please look at Deedat on his deathbed on youtube,, sorry to say but he doesn't look like someone that has followed God all his life and is looking forward to meeting him, no, he looks like he's being thrown into hell, and his face looks scarier than any horror movie that I've seen, because he knew the Bible, and he was denying Jesus as the Son his whole life, that's the biggest sin, my friend, that is your end too, if you don't repent.
he had a great debate about :Muhamamd in the bible.
In spite of the alterations made to the Holy Bible,
it still contains many prophecies that foretell still contains many prophecies that foretell the arrival of the "Final prophet". It has been almost 2000 years since Jesus (PBUH) came to this earth; yet, these prophecies have not been fulfilled; therefore, we ask when will it be? To claim that these prophecies are still to come, as the years go by,
is to reduce the credibility of the Holy Bible to its readers.
to claim Muhammad was a false prophet without any proof is so ridiculous but i can prove to you that Paul is the false prophet and the jews had proven that Jesus is the false messiah as well .
how?
read (Deuteronomy 18/20-22)
"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die...
The Bible states that it is the complete word of God, no need for the Quran;Jesus said "Heaven and earth shall pass away,but my words shall not pass away. Revelation 22:18 forbids anybody from adding or taking away from the Bible. Nullifies and makes void the Quran. Also Jesus warned us in Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many. Jesus said to wait for him ONLY. The only mention of prophets that should come after Jesus,are the false prophets, and only false prophets.
Paul was killed and he changed the message of Jesus ,so he is false prophet, The jews tried to Kill Jesus on the cross and you believe he was killed , so do not blame them if they refused to believe in him.
while:
The message of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has not perished; instead, it ruled the world for many centuries. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was saved from murder attempts, he conquered his enemies, and his message and religion spread all over the world,
@IslamResponses Paul was hand picked by Jesus, read it in Acts. Muslims hate Paul because he proves who Jesus is better than anybody else. Even Peter gives Paul credit. Islam hates Paul because they have no writings that can compare to Paul's , in knowledge, revelations from Jesus, spiritual understanding, the Quran cannot compare, it’s a very poor book. If God, the Holy Spirit was not with Paul, then he could not have written anything. Paul the biggest persecutor, converted.
this is evidence and proof of his honesty, sincerity and his prophet-hood. "For the Lord knows the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish." (Psalms 1/6).
“Youshall destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man." (Psalms: 5/6).
These verses indicate the truthfulness of Muhammad's (PBUH) prophet-hood and message, because he was saved from harm, was able to deliver the message, and because of how his message was spread across the world.
The Bible states that it is the complete word of God, no need for the Quran;Jesus said "Heaven and earth shall pass away,but my words shall not pass away. Revelation 22:18 forbids anybody from adding or taking away from the Bible. Nullifies and makes void the Quran. Also Jesus warned us in Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many. Jesus said to wait for him ONLY. The only mention of prophets that should come after Jesus,are the false prophets, and only false prophets.
When the rumors that Jesus (PBUH) was crucified spread, some of them were very sad because the salvation they hoped for had ended.so the salvation was not through Jesus.
The disciples said to Jesus (PBUH) after the resurrection, "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel ?
@IslamResponses The disciples were ignorant of the kingdom of God, just like you are now. Jesus came for the world, not just for Israel. Remember the Jews killed. You even mentioned after the resurection, well do you believe in the resurecction of Jesus now?
" (Acts: 1/6-7). He meant that it is not the time for the "expected king”.
Muslims have an evidence of the truth of their Prophet; The Qur’an. Such miraculous book which cannot be written by a man is their evidence. Read these verses from a Surah in the Quran which proves that we are created by a creator.
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It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth? Do ye then see The human Seed
@IslamResponses Moses said, like me from among your brethren. Brethren is Israelite, are you saying that Mohammad was from Israel? You don't make sense or you are an idiot. Moses plainly said, from among your brethren, that means Jewish, what part of that don't you understand? Mohammad was from Arabia, and preached to Arabia first. Jesus was from Israel and he preached to Israel first. Do you understand now? Or you don't have a brain for yourself?
It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth? Do ye then see The human Seed (with its genetic map) that ye throw out (during interactions), Is it ye who create it, or are We the Creators? We have decreed Death (in the structure of the genetic maps) to be your identified destiny, and We are not to be frustrated from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (Forms) that ye know not. ....
@IslamResponses Isaiah 7;14 A virgin shall conceive. Isaiah 9;6 For unto us a child is born, The Mighty God. The Quran states that Jesus is virgin born, it confirms Isaiah saying that this child is God. Or is your Quran Greek mythology? Only Jesus in the history of mankind was virgin born, read Isaiah 53 to see that only Jesus could have fulfilled all the Messianic prophecies. It's 1 in Zillion, zillio, zillions, that anybody else can fulfill the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah.
You are the only nation that worship their prophet, thats why your religion is from satan .
Prophet Muhamad's words and actions prove that he is a true prophet.
at least , he did not forbade men from looking at women then allowed to himslef to be kissed and massaged his feet with perfume from a bitch as Jesus of the bible!
he did not commit fornication with his neighbor's wife then killed him as David( the father of Jesus)
he did not rape a 3 years old girls and killed non virgin ones as Moses
@IslamResponses If you follow moses, David and Mohamad you will go to hell. Only Jesus is perfect, only God can be perfect. Jesus said if you lust after women you are sinning. Mohamad said sex with your sex slaves is permitted, now tell me which one is from God?
the book of ezekiel does not show that God is perverted but that the jews of that time were so depraved that the only way to get the message across to them, the langauage had to get dirty.
at the time when this prophecy was given to the israelites, the israelites were wayward: worshipping fertility gods and sexual immorality was widespread. God will get his message across to his intended audience with their own language using analogies that make it easy for them to understand. he won't ask u to learn a new language like arabic before u can understand his message to u.
I found it really funny how Sam Shamoun even thought about justifying that filthy chapter by saying that the Qur'an talks about breasts. It's not even comparable.
It's my understanding that the Book of Ezekiel invokes satirical language in a number of instances, some of them are so notable because they satirize the erotica that was tied into the Sumerian pagan religions, which is to say their own religious texts were very graphic, their attitude was lascivious in general. Logically, this provided an eloquent platform on which to describe Israel and Judah's faithlessness in the form of adultery aginst the true God, the God of the Bible.
if ezekiel 23 --- is actually read in context it easy to understand tat these wo women are actually representation of both sameria and jeruselem, so then readig on the act these two women were comparisons of the sinful acts of the inhabitace of both jerusalem and sameria
so when sam gave the out look of this passage he was right on the money, the graphc language within its context was to hit th inhabitance of these places with the truth
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DESTROYED...absolutely HUMILIATED & DESTROYED....well done brother
saeem7 1 week ago
but in case of the Bible is a different story where we can see alot of story that it doesnt make any sense and if we agree it makes sense doesnt really solve the problem, example the story of Simpson who killed a 1000 men who was on the roof, and killed hundreds of people with a stick, but then what was the wisdom behind this story that the mankind or even the christian could learn from the violent story!!!!!
SaySpme19811 2 weeks ago
We Muslims Read the Quran and understand, and we never lie about it because its a word of God, and we believe in every verse and word it, we believe Quran is a complete book for all mankind at any single time (No time limitation) so Yes, Quran Talks about peace, and it has some violence verses with a limitation to specific events happened and in case it happens, teaches us how we can deal with any situation we counter and this is the perfection.
SaySpme19811 2 weeks ago
Goooood morning ramadan :D
jumshid 3 weeks ago
@Toolgdskli It's on the channel man, Islam FTW
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how can anyone believe a murderous anti woman demon possessed serial killer like "st paul" who never even met jesus?
a man who used to have the original followers of jesus KILLED as he opposed their group....but as killing them never stopped the movement what did he do?
he invented a whole new sect to oppose the followers of jesus, they eventually branched out to become christianity as we know it today.
this is why muslims oppose as christianity & bible has mixed things up
prototype00000 1 month ago
@prototype00000 Wow. Who killed more people, Paul or Muhammad? The problem with you Muslims is you are ignorant. Someone says he is a Christian and commits crime you say it's in the bible but if Muslims behead someone and shouts praises to your demon god you say it's not in the Qur'an. Who you fooling!
1sl4mSh1t 1 month ago
@1sl4mSh1t
paul killed innocent believers as he opposed the followers of jesus. he never converted instead he invented a new deviant sect to oppose the followers of jesus which is todays "loving" (violent) christianity
also christians bury their heads in the sands that god ordered capital punishment and war 3000 years ago in the bible, when muslims say god ordered it 1400 yrs ago the christians have a heart attack or seizure exposing the biggest hypocrisy of all time
prototype00000 1 month ago
Take a look at the full vid with AN OPEN MIND. Sam Shamoun win hands down. Until Ally doesnt want to debate Sam anymore because 'of his own reasons'.
TurboNosHayabusa1 2 months ago
this Shamoun guy is just a tool, he's not worth anybody's time to debate.
AIajmis 2 months ago 7
Paradise will have things which we can't imagine of, not to forget that if we have wives here which are good for us and the similar for women having husbands whom are good to them. These people will be reunited in paradise, right? In which there's peace among things which we cannot imagine of, may Allah make us among the people of Jannah. So that we would live this life well (as it's meant to be lived) and achieve our true goal. Aamen.
ThePatientMuslim 2 months ago
my son is 7 and has memorized surat alnaba :)
emmalik 2 months ago
Why does Sam attempt to show that Muslims are going to Paradise with 70 whoories when he only references to the Quran talking about women have swelling breasts? Lol. Where is the reference in the Quran talking about the 70 whoories Sam is talking about?
chulloung 2 months ago
3. anyone would have been punished for. But overtime leaving Islam was just associated with the whole death thing from that hadith, but really the guy COMMITTED CRIMES and left Islam. So should that be asociated with sharia well many Muslim leaders today argue about that one. So no compulsion in religion, debate over death penaly, and ppl will live under sharia but not killed because there is no compulsion in Islam. So dont judge Islam by the actions of muslims becuz they may not be good example
3rabsalimush 2 months ago
@3rabsalimush There's no compulsion in religion, doesn't mean that when Muslims have achieved the truth and recognize it as such that there wouldn't be any compulsion. As we cannot have other gods besides God, that could be a compulsion for someone, who would want to adore/love someone else more than God. As if we replace someone else and take God as second, we are committing Shirk as you brother/sister may know already.
I would like to say that I'm not attacking you, nor am I trying to offend
ThePatientMuslim 2 months ago
@3rabsalimush you. But the truth is that we have a set of rules which we have to hold on, if we're Muslims we should know them, if not then we wouldn't be accounted due to our ignorance about things. But if we know that certain thing is bad for us and we commit something such as adultery, we're breaking the laws of Allah. There's a responsibility in religion, if someone only says that "there's no compulsion in religion" and taking it as "you can do whatever, when you're a Muslim because God says
ThePatientMuslim 2 months ago
@ThePatientMuslim Salam yes i understand what you mean and i was merely reffering to non muslims not to Muslims. but yes of course you cannot just be Muslim by name but you must commit to the religion. But thank you for the words of intellect and wisdom and may Allah guide those who have gone astray and those who believe but do not commit to the religion. Salam Aleikum
3rabsalimush 2 months ago
@3rabsalimush Aamen.
Wa Alaikum Assalaam wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh, may Allah bring us mercy in the ways which we live as well as in the ways we speak to each other. Aamen.
ThePatientMuslim 2 months ago
@3rabsalimush so".
There's no compulsion in religion, as we're not forcing our deen to others. But there are rules and rules must be followed, if your not following them we will be taken on account about those things. Thus there's a certain compulsion of following rules, for the Muslims. We cannot say that "we believe this and this, from the Qur'an but then we don't believe in this".
I hope that you got my meaning, forgive me if I came to you in a bad way. Peace.
ThePatientMuslim 2 months ago
Eww some of the think in the bible is kinda gross.
girls sleeping with their father, god shadowing over Mary. And the childrens book was the worst part AND IT WAS TOTALLY INCONTEXT WHICH IS EVEN WORSE. plz Christians read the Quran.
3rabsalimush 3 months ago
@3rabsalimush You know what. You're right, let me read the Quran. Lets see... Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” Oh snap. No ..no thanks. Jesus never ordered anyone to be killed. I'll stick with my Lord. The son of God, the ONLY way to heaven.. Jesus Christ
BankBeatsMusic 2 months ago
@BankBeatsMusic hello Umm like i said lol like two weeks ago its must be kept in context. You taking a verse out of context doesnt prove you right. The previous verses talks about those who are trying to fight and kill you. Also the very next verse, verse 90 says "but if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace, allah allows you no way against them." So yes we can fight but in defense not offense. Plz understand that. Thanks gooday
3rabsalimush 2 months ago
@3rabsalimush Let's not act like that. Stop trying to hide the terrible Islam zit on the face of the Earth. Answer two questions for me... If Islam wants Sharia Law for all countries what must happen? Christians and Jews must be exterminated right? Next question - what's the penalty for a child who wants to leave Islam? Let me know. I've seen Copts get burned alive because they won't convert to Islam. I'm not buying into your evil satanic cult of a religion
BankBeatsMusic 2 months ago
@BankBeatsMusic Hello again Hmm okay so you would rather believ in media islam than Islam Islam. Well, for the record. There is a prophecy that says Islam will be the reigning religion but that doesnt mean that jews and christians will be wiped out lol. You will all live under sharia wwhich by the way most people with PhD's in comparative studies say sharia is 98% the same as Jewish law and ppl claim jesus was a jew right. So we really practice relatively the same law so it shouldnt be hard.
3rabsalimush 2 months ago
@BankBeatsMusic 2. And technically Islam was the first religion to give rights specifically to minorites. Especially the Jews and Christians because you guys are the people of the book. We recognize that your religion has SOME truth. The quran explicetly states "let there be no compulsion in this religion." meaning i cant force anyone to convert to Islam. Also the whole death if you leave Islam thats not in the Quran, that comes from a hadith of a guy who left Islam but he did other things that
3rabsalimush 2 months ago
@BankBeatsMusic That is what one does in war. It talking about killing an enemy who attacks you. Your bible says kill apostates, and that a man can have sex with a war captive.
islamictvdotcom 2 months ago 3
@islamictvdotcom No it doesn't. You're reaching now. Actually that's in the Old Testament, correct me if I'm wrong but don't Muslims believe the Old Testament is true? Didn't Muhammad murder, and have sex with a nine year old? Didn't "Allah" say he'd rather a man sin, and not be sinless?
BankBeatsMusic 2 months ago
GOD IS 1 AND JESUS WAS A MESSENGER OF GOD
855842 4 months ago 44
so the depravity, idolatry and sinfulness of Jerusalem is presented in vivid, disgusting ways...so what is their point?
kyzersoze74 5 months ago
Jesus said,"If anyone would come after me he must deny himself take up his cross and follows me" LUK9;23.Jesus teaches us self denial, but shabir with high excitement agrees that he and and others muslims will be getting 72virgins for sex.in paradise.it is not a GLORIFIED WHOREHOUSE, but mohamad wanted heaven to be like that. "BUT THOSE WHO R CONSIDERED WORTHY OF TAKING PART IN THAT AGE AND IN THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD WILL NEITHER MARRY NOR B GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, THEY R LIKE ANGELS"LK20:34.
vineandthebranch 7 months ago
@vineandthebranch
Thats not self denial, thats sadism. God creates women, food and yet want ppl to hate it. Heaven is reward and God rewards his good servants like father gifts his sons toys,clothes etc.
kingkhan2 6 months ago
@vineandthebranch luke 20:34NEITHER MARRY NOR B GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, THEY R LIKE ANGELS, what about genesis 6 talk about sons of god have sex doughters of men.
MrAntitrinity 5 months ago
@vineandthebranch hahaha you idiot christians speak as if sex, food etc are bad things?? god is giving us rewards fool as we have obeyed him in this life he sees fit that we can do whatever we want in the next life as we have earned it. i ask you again what is wrong with sex? if sex is so bad why were you born and why do/will you have kids?? you guys dont apply logic to your answers
CiMBoMTurkiye93 4 months ago
@CiMBoMTurkiye93 a fundamental difference between me and you is the belief in this statement "we can do whatever we want in the next life as we have earned it". Certainly this is 100% the opposite of what is expressed in the bible.
Vball2718 3 months ago
Sam clarifies clearly that God is talking about Judah and Israels' unfaithfulness in Ezekiel..The God of the Bible feels like a hurted lover when His people commits sin, not like mohamds bully god who encourages people to encourage in carnality and sensuality even after death...Where in the New Testament it says,to indulge in sensuality on earth..? The KIng of Kings Jesus taught us the opposite"If your right eye causes you to sin gouge it out and throw it away, "mathew5:29
vineandthebranch 7 months ago
may allah guide su all there r good christians debaters whom deedat debate with.. this sam is a joke
afglionheart 7 months ago
It is sad to see people from 2 faiths argue and mock each others as if they belong to two political parties. The above debate clearly gives out the message for those who are intelligent to decide who was right and what is acceptable by God ...so let it increase our faith and move on. Avoid mocking others. Follow the true teachings.
doczak69 7 months ago
@doczak69 thats what Shabir said earlier or later on this debate
DrXoz 7 months ago
Sam Shamoun's jaw drop while listening to Shabir ally's smart answers !
shin19656 7 months ago 33
4.37 sams like yeah man i was just kidding , don,t take it seriously
03045152525 7 months ago
this is the best debate after the death of Ahmed deedat rahimalaah,this guy (sam) is arrogant but brother shabir give him a lesson that he will never forget,who next mr wood and his dog qureshi.
MrAntitrinity 8 months ago
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specialglow 8 months ago
The verse 78:33 uses the word أترابا which is translated as "swelling breasts" by some people. Try google translate for this word, there is only one meaning given, which is "Equal age".
Here is the tafseer of Maududi
"TMs may mean that they will be of equal age among themselves as well as that they will be of equal age with their husbands. This same theme has already occurred in Surah Suad 52 and Al-Waqi`ah :37 above. "
icriosphinx 8 months ago
POWED !
SalamToMohammed 9 months ago
Sam Shamoun always Sucks enormous Cocks on paltalk, like Daily by Answering Christianity Group.
OacidburnO 9 months ago
it's too bad that Shabir Ally does harp on people who don't know the Bible, or spiritual parables and metaphors from the scriptures, or they would at least look ahead and read the whole chapter (and elsewhere in the Bible) where "adultery" against God is going after idols and other gods. For instance, Israel is the wife, God is the husband, and the idols are the ones Israel cheats with. If you're still in doubt, at least read verse 37 where it says it plainly for those who have trouble with it
krononomikon 10 months ago
My Friend masterbat while reading The Book.
He Told Me He Like The part where The sis have sex with his dad and a son have with his mom and, a whore want to have with every one.
True story~
Dodalalal91 1 year ago
aw thats why they are number one in porn films
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
when you grow up and have kids read the ezkiel;23 tell them about the gigantic penises and once you make your children? imagination perverted tell them you didnt mean to pervert there minds, because the verses are not literal...according to sam shamoun..lol
pamuk7 1 year ago
@pamuk7 What you are failing to put together is the context of what is being discussed. In Ezekiel, the graphic imagery is meant to describe a sin, and to reprimand a sinner. While the virgins described by the quran are a pornographic promise. He says what do you think we will be doing in paradise and the points to the nephilim, which are FALLEN ANGELS as examples to hold to! Surely muhammad was duped by lucifer to spread his domain.
particle58 1 year ago
@particle58 oh cut the crap LOL ,trying to tell me how spiritual Ezekiel is and that its describing a sin ? plz GTFO ,when i ask u who did this sin ? ur answer is going to be a messenger of God ezikiel ,then who did he did it with? and ur answer is gonna be WITH HIS DAUGHTERS LOL , use ur brain for once in ur life , this is God's messengers we're supposed to follow and imitate they're chosen by God ,, so according to u if u learnt ur lesson from the bible ur going to have sex with ur daughter
b2bb55 1 year ago
@b2bb55 you should actually read chapter 23 of Ezekiel - the whole thing - and see for yourself that, like in other places of the Bible, God is calling Jerusalem and Samaria whores for going after the idols of the Gentiles.
krononomikon 10 months ago
@particle58 2nd i cant tolerate stupidity but i'll try sam said Angels cant have sex and that there is no sex in heaven ,shabir showed him FROM YOUR BOOK that there is sex in heaven ,but you're just desperate and cant find an answer so all u can say is u guys r from lucifer Bla Bla LOOL , u cant even come with a logical answer , but dont get me wrong i feel sorry for you , you got owned so hard from ur own book , there is no coming back so the easiest way out is to insult the prophet LOL noobs
b2bb55 1 year ago
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Vote thumps up, if you think this is a pornographic verse.
(Bible: Ezekiel 23:20-21 NIV)''There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emissionwas like that of horses.
21) So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.
pamuk7 1 year ago
anyhow debates arent battles or fights they are simply seeking of knowledge so we shouldnt say that sam is himiliated or owned or other words of this type because the porpuse isnt to fight with arguments but to enlighten with arguements
khalilrabee 1 year ago
genitals like those of donkeys and emitions like those of horses....
subhanallah...and they say muslims are indoctrinated...muslims doubt and question and often question the qor'an itself to seek knowledge...
but what about chistians and the bible? "believe without questioning"...
nice...how can u even believe without questioning...
ive seen the full video and sam was constantly attacking the qor'an but with no use...shabir debunks him imidiately...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
bible has plenty of porn/fetish etc
deuteremony If a man dies without having a child, his brother shall "go in unto" his dead brother's wife. If he refuses, the dead man's wife is to loosen his shoe and spit in his face. 25:5-10
If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28 deuteremony
prototype00000 1 year ago
@prototype00000 In the middle east, if a man has sex with a woman outside of marraige, even if its consentual, if you are muslim or christian, doesn't matter, the girl is branded as a whore, and the man a rapist.
The only righteous thing for the man to do after raping a woman is to marry her.
Too bad in the west, non-marital sex is encouraged, if it was a little like the middle east,we'd have less fatherless households, less aids, less people on welfare, more honor, etc.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
no, the the man would be executed in sharia law if he is a rapist, he would not be rewarded in getting to marry his victim. you are 100% wrong.
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise(B) as some count slowness, but(C) is patient toward you,[a](D) not wishing that any should perish, but(E) that all should reach repentance." 2nd peter 3.9
are you saying this contradicts the previous versus? or are you just saying god wishes (not wills which is different) people are saved?
prototype00000 1 year ago
@prototype00000if the man is to be executed under Sharia law, then why in pakistan or afghanistan the woman is jailed, and the man set free?
The OT says that he should be executed too. Quran has copied the OT. Jesus changed everything as he fulfilled Jer 31:31 Giod will make a NEW COVENANT with his people. Jesus said, he that is without sin cast the first stone. So if you want to stay in the OT, or Sharia law, maybe you should stand in line to get stoned for your sins?
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
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new testament
john 16 12-14
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
new testament on muhammad. off course some argue the holy spirit but where is it? ive not HEARD anything from the spirit so its a lie
prototype00000 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
pakistan doesnt even follow proper sharia law. its like saying the uk laws are actually catholic. completly irrelivant argument.
prototype00000 1 year ago
@prototype00000 If you are so fond of Sharia law then, why don't you be true to your belief; stand in line to get stoned for your sins. Have you ever lied, stolen anything, committed adultery, coveted? If you have then, please give us the proper example, and volunteer to get stoned. You should practice what you preach. Please don't hide behind the laws of the UK. In fact all believers in Sharia law should volunteer to show other musmils that there is no bias in Islam. only Jesus can save you.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
firstly you have judged me for being a sinner by telling me to stand in line for my sins. how do you know ive sinned worthy of capital punishment or limb cutting?
Luke 6:37, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged
i think you need remember this verse and YOU be TRUE to your faith before you question me. secondly it is another irrelivant point
prototype00000 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
Why when i quoted you the NEW testament and the versus jesus says of hell you brought up 1 contradicting verse from the OLD testament? but now you say its the NEW testament you follow?
prototype00000 1 year ago
@prototype00000 My friend, you have no exccuse, you have a copy of the Bible, so please read it, and stop asking these questions, you will find all the answers in the New Test. What was the 1 contradicting verse? please give me that verse.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
dont waste my time anymore. you have judged me and told me to stand in line for stoning even though you have ZERO knowledge of me.
you IGNORE your faith which in this entire unedited debate is destroyed and you broke your own law showing complete hypocrisy
Luke 6:37, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged
if you want to respond to get the last word go ahead. i have nothing further to say.
prototype00000 1 year ago
@prototype00000 I said that if the man had sex with the woman, rape or by consent he is still branded as a rapist, they would say " he '______" the girl. I would not be satisfied with the Allah of the Quran, because I need to be loved by my creator, such as the love demonstrated by Jesus. And I accept that love, and he wishes that I accept that love. If you are satisfied with the Allah of the Quran, then so be it.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
This zionist is an idiot , brother Osama Abdullah also has refuted this point but he keeps repeating it as an idiot parrot.
Christians do not read their bible .
People will have body flesh and bone not only a soul and believers will see God.
Job 19:26 -27
26 And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see himwith my own eyes—I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!
also Mathew 17:29:
Jesus said :
IslamResponses 1 year ago
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
now;
How they will children and wives in heaven !!
why they do not read their bible ? they believe that they will be like angles without physical bodies but even the angles can get married in the bible (Genesis 6:1-4 )
The number 72 houris is not mentioned in the Quran .
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Jesus said that you will have a hundredfold, for those that left everything and preached the Gospel of Jesus. The wives and children are the people that you helped save. Just like Jesus said, he that does the will of my Father , the same is my mother, brother and sister. Do you understand now?
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
you are funny :
Jesus said(29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.)
now what is the meaning of wife for you?
any clever person can guess what this mean? what a husband and wife do in their normal life?
they will live like brothers and sisters?!!
"Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare ..(Genesis 4:1)
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
i know that:
According to most Churchian doctrine, there is NO SEX in Heaven, as according to them sex was a "direct result of the fall of man into sin!" So these angels had also "fallen into sin", or or
became fallen angels "in the very horrible act", and as a result must have grown sex organs on the spot, "these evil sprouting manifestations of their impure thoughts", like Adam and Eve had when they obeyed the serpent—
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
the Devil—who promptly gave them these luscious sinful juicy horny sex organs, "so they could "suffer" Churchy abstinence and condemnation!" Ha! How ridiculous can you get!When these so-called "fallen angels" came down or manifested themselves in earthly forms and dimensions, and flirted with those pretty "fallen" girls of men, the obedient angels must have been spitefully watching from Above with blushing faces,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
listening to all these wonderful moaning and ecstatic sounds that these "fallen girls" and no doubt these "fallen angels" were making down there, while they came together in Angelic Orgasms! Whew!
You can just imagine how insanely jealous these "goodie goodie" angels must have been, as jealous as today's Churchians secretly are of our sex-crazed world! As jealous as when they must have watched Adam meet Eve for the first time,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
NO WAY MAN! She shook his little hand! Ha! And it quickly began to grow! And it wasn't long before Adam and Eve were going at it, right there in the Garden of Eden.
Really you are funny, the sons of God (angels )had sex with women ! also the god of the bible ate at Abrahm's house and you believe he has a son(jesus ) which means he had sex with a women as the Mormons believe , and do not tell me it is a spiritual son , why do you call him son in the first place!
this is ridiculous .
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses
Anyway the topic of sex , food and pleasure in heaven has been refuted in my videos such as:
watch?v=s0yQdN1bNGk
so , check them
oh man.
i need more than an hour to refute all your arguments
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
Of the bible.
YOUR CORRUPTED FAKE PAULIAN RELIGION IS FROM SATAN.
Now, i do not have time to waste with you.
if you bring another argument , as most of you usually do when they are cornered and can not reply on the old ones, so you will prove to us that :
1- you have no argument to defend.
2- you lost this argument . peace
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Paul was hand picked by Jesus, read it in Acts. Muslims hate Paul because he proves who Jesus is better than anybody else. Even Peter gives Paul credit. Islam hates Paul because they have no writings that can compare to Paul's , in knowledge, revelations from Jesus, spiritual understanding, the Quran cannot compare, it’s a very poor book. If God, the Holy Spirit was not with Paul, then he could not have written anything. Paul the biggest persecutor, converted.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Jesus said " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me" He said that he will return, and to watch and wait for him ONLY, and nobody else. Jesus said in John 4;22, " salvation is through the Jews ".
this makes Mohamad a false prophet anyway, because he is not Jewish. Jesus' words and actions prove that he is God's son, Mohamad's words and actions prove that he is from Satan.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
What you are trying to prove the divinity of Jesus !!these biblical verses do not prove anything at all, the same thing prophet muhammad said( if you obey me, you obey God) does this mean he is God !
no
and many brothers refuted these verses on YT such as:(pamuk7 & Sami zataari)
as for John 4:22:
this issue has been refuted by many other biblical texts, which throw suspicion as to whether or not this statement was actually uttered by Jesus,
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Yea, you really have to cut up the Bible, to justify your crazy position. Jeremiah 31:31. You're right God will make a new covanant. Islam and Old Test are very similar. So the New Covanant must be the New Testamant, read Hebrews to understand.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
I have refuted the new convent lie in this video:
watch?v=NhBRblS3O0Y
u can find the same video with more details here:
watch?v=dukb-MX5EMg&feature=watch_response
so i am not going to wast my time on something i have already refuted. so stick to the topic and do not jump as a frog from one topic to another .
thanks again for proving my previous comment .
go back to MOSES:
IslamResponses 1 year ago
especially, that it is clear it was inserted into the text.
the Holy Bible's texts indicate the possibility of transferring the prophet-hood from the Children of Israel to another nation like the Arabs.
God had sent many prophets to the Children of Israel, and they denied and killed them
Theyare a crooked and twisted generation. Do you thus repay the LORD, you foolish and senseless people?” (Deuteronomy: 32/5-6).
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
The prophet Elijah said: "He said, “I have been very jealous for the LORD, the God of hosts. For the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, throwndown your altars, and killed your prophets with the sword, and I, even I only, am left, and they seek my life, to take it away." (1Kings: 19/10).
God's description of them in the prophet Ezekiel's Book is the same:
(Ezekiel: 2/3-8)
God's anger with them continued,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
until he lifted the blessing from them, and exchanged it with his curses and revenge (Malachi: 2/1-3).
When Jesus (PBUH) came he called Jerusalem : “OJerusalem , Jerusalem , the city that kills the prophets” (Matthew: 23/37) because of the number of God's honorable prophets whom they had killed on its soil. Read also (Matthew:
23/13-37).
For that, God deprived them from being the nation who the next promised prophet will come from, because they broke the promise and covenant of God. ,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Jesus said in John 4:22, salvatuion is through the Jews. This verse alone makes Mohamad a fraud. Read book of Hebrews in New Test to see who Jesus really is.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
I have refuted this argument so repeating the same argument only shows you have no argument to defend as i said before so thanks for proving my points about you, and thanks for using foul languages, we used to that, all of you when they loose the argument the only way to respond since they have no response is using foul languages .
Now go back to Moses:
Prophet Muhamamd was the son of Ishmael , and everyone knows that :
isaac and Ishmael were brothers .
so:
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
while you claim that Jesus is divine, and that refutes every similarity.
Jesus described the expected prophet to be similar to Moses, driving it away from himself, he said; “Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one that accuses you, Moses, on whom you haveset your hope. If you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?(John: 5/45-47)
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
Jesus always told his disciples to not tell anyone who he was, because he had to accomplish his mission of dying for us first.
Jesus’ words;Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen, and have the keys of death and hell.
John 15:5 for without me ye can do nothing". Only God can say this.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
The main reason that the Jews hated Jesus (PBUH) was that he confronted them with the truth. He told them that God's kingdom and His choice will be taken away from them, and given to another nation. In order to prove that, we have to go back to the first time they tried to kill him. That is when he told them about the prophet Elijah, leaving the children of Israel's widows for a Sidon widow,
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
for a Sidon widow, and that the prophet Joshua cleansed Neman the Assyrian without cleansing the rest of the leprous that were among the children of Israel. (See Luke: 4/25-27).The result was that “When they heard these things, all in the synagogue were filled with wrath. And they rose up and drove him out of the town and brought him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they could throw him down the cliff." (Luke: 4/28- 29),
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Jews wanted to kill Jesus for this reason too; John 10:33 The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that thou being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus also said, Before Abraham was, " I am ". they were going to stone him there too. Only God can say " I am "
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
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(Deuteronomy: 34/10).
This description, of being like Moses, is a fact can fit only our prophet Muhammad, and not Jesus (peace and blessings be upon all of them). There are many similarities between Moses.
Moses’ and Muhammad’s (PBUT) natural birth, their marriage, both came with a statute, both were sent with swords over their enemy, each of them lead his nation, and became a king, and both were human,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
write the full verse:
John 10:33-35 (American Standard Version) 33 The Jews answered him, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
so Jesus correct their misunderstanding and told them:
(Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods
IslamResponses 1 year ago
John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said
unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
36 He answered and said, Who is he Lord, that I might believe on him?
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
38 And he said, Lord I believe . And he worshipped him.
There are many other verses like this. Remember Jesus kept it mostly a secret on who he really was, because the Jews many times want
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
Again for the million times:
the so called divinity of Jesus was refuted by brother sami Zatari and brother:pamuk7
here is a debate between brother Sami and sam:
watch?v=ZHzq4NIL2YY
and i gave you before a link for a video refutation about the false divinity of Jesus.
The message of Jesus was pure and simple, the complete submission and surrender to God alone. He preached the religion of Islam; he fasted and prayed in the manner taught by the Prophets before him
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Muslims can win debates against Christians, I am not impressed. I have the Bible. And Jesus said that his words shall not pass away, his words prove who he is.
After all of your knowledge of the Bible, and you still reject that Jesus died for man's sins, therefore from now, I will turn you over to Satan, that you learn not to blaspheme.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
Paul rejected these laws and concocted his own religion, claiming “salvation comes through faith only” (sound familiar?) and not physical action or bodily prayer.
The Bible teaches the exact opposite, the stories of the Prophets teach us that salvation is attained through fasting, physical prayer, and righteous deeds, not just having faith, which is merely an article required in any organized religion.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Jesus always did an excellent job of shutting up the nay sayers. remember Jesus said that Moses wrote of me. So you see, Jesus said that Moses wrote of me. How much proof do you need. You're deleting 99% of the New Tert just to justify a crimianl like Moahmad.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
a criminal like Muhammad!! hahah
thanks for your trash mouth again , this shows that you lost your temper and i won.
Do not forget that you believe Jesus is God so , he is the biggest criminal .
he ordered Moses to rape 3 years girls and kill non virgin ones and to kill everything that breaths .
so you have to throw your bible and refute Moses as well based on your logic.
you are a waste of time .
KEEP BARKING
you are a dog according to Jesus since you are not a jew .
IslamResponses 1 year ago
and that was the beginning of the hate between the Jews and Jesus (PBUH).
Now I ask you, did the nation that was threatened by prophets deserve that the blessing and prophet-hood remain with it? If the answer is no then which nation is the selected and chosen one? Who else could be, except the nation that was promised the blessing many times, from the offspring of Ishmael (PBUH)?
add to that:
There are much more prophecies and logical points proved how such statement is so fuzzy.
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Nice, you're picking for God, who deserves prophethood. The Bible says that the Jews are evil and desrve nothing, BUT because God made a promise to Abraham, in Genesis, you know the verses. God is calling Abraham's seed through Isaac. God keeps his promises, not because the Jews are good. Anyway, read the New Test, and get all your questions answered there.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
You acknowledge the existence of these prophecies and affirm that they indicate the coming of "the final prophet" or "the great prophet"; however, you still insist that he is a man who is a descendant from the children of Israel . you claim that he is Jesus (PBUH) son of Mary, while the Jews are still expecting him.
Such as:
A prophet like Moses, From the brothers of the Israelites and God will put His words in the mouth of this prophet
In (Deuteronomy18:18-19)
you can search for Ahmad Deedat
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Isaiah 7;14 A virgin shall conceive. Isaiah 9;6 For unto us a child is born, The Mighty God. The Quran states that Jesus is virgin born, it confirms Isaiah saying that this child is God. Or is your Quran Greek mythology? Only Jesus in the history of mankind was virgin born, read Isaiah 53 to see that only Jesus could have fulfilled all the Messianic prophecies. It's 1 in Zillion, zillio, zillions, that anybody else can fulfill the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
I told you brother sami zatari and pamuk7 have refuted the sam call divinity of Jesus , here is the refutation of brother pamuk7:
watch?v=JAUACt9r7VY
you will find my comment on his video as well i wrote:
Isaiah 7:1-23
says:
1And it came to pass in the days of Ahaz the son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, king of Judah, that Rezin the king of Syria, and Pekah the son of Remaliah, king of Israel, went up toward Jerusalem to war against it, but could_ not prevail against it....
IslamResponses 1 year ago
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3Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son......5Because Syria, Ephraim, and the son of Remaliah, have taken evil counsel against thee, saying,
6Let us go up against Judah, and vex it, and let us make a breach therein for us, and set a king in the midst of it, even the son of Tabeal: 7Thus saith the Lord GOD, It shall not stand, neither shall it come to pass.......
cont
IslamResponses 1 year ago
and within threescore and five years_ shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.....
14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
There is more than 700 years between Jesus and Isaiah, and the lord promised Isiah that , within 65 years ,Israel and Syria will loose the war. and the sign for that is : a virgin shall conceive, and bear_ a son, in the old versions of Torah
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
in the old versions of Torah such as: ترجمة أيكوئلا وترجمة تهيودوشن ، وترجمة سميكس they used a young lady instead of Virgin.
Anyway he could not respond on brother Sami, and he wont be able to bring a single biblical verse to prove Jesus is God.
as for Jesus was sinless etc unfortunately according to the bible he was not .
he was a foul mouthed person ,a hypocrite calling all of the non-Jews as "the Jews dogs" and then within a second changing his mind and position regarding it.
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses He called the woman dog, because he was using symbolic language, read the verse after that. To what Jewish woman did Jesus say, Oh woman, great is thy faith. You hate paul, because the Quran is a useless book compared to Paul's writings. Paul confirms all of Jesus words and testimony. Give me the Quran in one verse, and just compare it to John 3:16, the Bible in one verse, no match. night and day.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
yes indeed because you believe that Paul writings and his greeting to his family as holy as the word of god!
did god command Paul to write this؟
)23 And I do all things for the gospel's sake, that I may be a joint partaker thereof.)
and he became indeed! 5 and salute the church that is in their house. Salute Epaenetus my beloved, who is the first-fruits of Asia unto Christ. 6 Salute Mary, who bestowed much labor on you
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Read Acts, and see how the biggest persecutor of the church, became the hardest working apostle of Jesus. Jesus says, in Acts that Paul is a chosen vessel unto me, he will be a great witness unto me. Since you don't belive 99% of the New Test. stay in the Quran.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
and he was baptised by John which means he was born as a sinless, he made his mother unclean .
you can watch this video about his sins:
watch?v=IhQM-Q6ca5I
as for paul, i have very good debate about Paul and another video from an ex christian who studied the different visions and books of the bible and i do believe that brother(MuslimBychoice) has very good video debates about him:
watch?v=FWzA6gZ7iyU
watch?v=ypb5qy4MxAY
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
I watched Shabir before in another debate, he is a liar, he said that Stephen in the book of Acts was stoned because of Moses and not Jesus, If you read Acts 7:52 you will see that the Jews attacked Stephen right after he accused the Jews of murdering Jesus. this is proof that Shabir is a liar.Jesus said that there is no marriage in heaven.So where the Quran got multilpe women from, For me the Bible in one verse is this- John 3:16, everything else is secondary,
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@acceptjesus1
Jesus called the expected prophet “the awaited for or the expected Moses” due to his similarity with Moses.
He is illiterate, cannot read nor write, and the revelation that comes to him is a verbal revelation, unlike the written books that came to the prophets before him “and I will put my words in his mouth;”
and Jesus (PBUH) was able to read (See Luke: 4/16-18). 5) He will be able to deliver his message completely,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
andhe shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.". Which is a description that matches Muhammad (PBUH), as in what was revealed to him in the later parts of the Quran when God said: {This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion} (Al-Maeda: 3).
It is impossible that Jesus (PBUH) is that prophet who delivers all what God commands him; as
Jesus (PBUH) was lifted to God when he still had Jesus
IslamResponses 1 year ago
However, he gave them prophecies of the next prophet who will tell them the whole truth, because he is the prophet whose message will be completed and nothing will prevent him delivering his message. Jesus said (PBUH):“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own authority; but whatever he hears he will speak, ....... “(John: 16/12-13).
IslamResponses 1 year ago
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@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
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@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
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@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
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In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said.
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@IslamResponses In Acts 1:5, Jesus told the disciples right after his resurrection, the Holy Spirit will be sent to them in A FEW DAYS. NOT 600 years. Jesus said all other future prophets will be false, and to watch for him ONLY, and don't even believe anybody if they tell you, he is here or he is there, you will know that it's me, Jesus said. This proves that moahamd is false.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Deut 18:18 I will raise them a prophet from among your brethren ( Israel ) like unto thee ( Jew ). Now Mohammad was not from Israel. And like unto thee means, like Moses, Jewish. Use your common 5th grade sense, was Mohammad like Moses, a Jew? Was Mohamed from Israel?
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@IslamResponses Please look at Deedat on his deathbed on youtube,, sorry to say but he doesn't look like someone that has followed God all his life and is looking forward to meeting him, no, he looks like he's being thrown into hell, and his face looks scarier than any horror movie that I've seen, because he knew the Bible, and he was denying Jesus as the Son his whole life, that's the biggest sin, my friend, that is your end too, if you don't repent.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
he had a great debate about :Muhamamd in the bible.
In spite of the alterations made to the Holy Bible,
it still contains many prophecies that foretell still contains many prophecies that foretell the arrival of the "Final prophet". It has been almost 2000 years since Jesus (PBUH) came to this earth; yet, these prophecies have not been fulfilled; therefore, we ask when will it be? To claim that these prophecies are still to come, as the years go by,
IslamResponses 1 year ago
is to reduce the credibility of the Holy Bible to its readers.
to claim Muhammad was a false prophet without any proof is so ridiculous but i can prove to you that Paul is the false prophet and the jews had proven that Jesus is the false messiah as well .
how?
read (Deuteronomy 18/20-22)
"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die...
IslamResponses 1 year ago
The Bible states that it is the complete word of God, no need for the Quran;Jesus said "Heaven and earth shall pass away,but my words shall not pass away. Revelation 22:18 forbids anybody from adding or taking away from the Bible. Nullifies and makes void the Quran. Also Jesus warned us in Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many. Jesus said to wait for him ONLY. The only mention of prophets that should come after Jesus,are the false prophets, and only false prophets.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
Paul was killed and he changed the message of Jesus ,so he is false prophet, The jews tried to Kill Jesus on the cross and you believe he was killed , so do not blame them if they refused to believe in him.
while:
The message of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has not perished; instead, it ruled the world for many centuries. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was saved from murder attempts, he conquered his enemies, and his message and religion spread all over the world,
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
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@IslamResponses Paul was hand picked by Jesus, read it in Acts. Muslims hate Paul because he proves who Jesus is better than anybody else. Even Peter gives Paul credit. Islam hates Paul because they have no writings that can compare to Paul's , in knowledge, revelations from Jesus, spiritual understanding, the Quran cannot compare, it’s a very poor book. If God, the Holy Spirit was not with Paul, then he could not have written anything. Paul the biggest persecutor, converted.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
this is evidence and proof of his honesty, sincerity and his prophet-hood. "For the Lord knows the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish." (Psalms 1/6).
“Youshall destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man." (Psalms: 5/6).
These verses indicate the truthfulness of Muhammad's (PBUH) prophet-hood and message, because he was saved from harm, was able to deliver the message, and because of how his message was spread across the world.
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IslamResponses 1 year ago
The Bible states that it is the complete word of God, no need for the Quran;Jesus said "Heaven and earth shall pass away,but my words shall not pass away. Revelation 22:18 forbids anybody from adding or taking away from the Bible. Nullifies and makes void the Quran. Also Jesus warned us in Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many. Jesus said to wait for him ONLY. The only mention of prophets that should come after Jesus,are the false prophets, and only false prophets.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
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Now go back to the salvation,
When the rumors that Jesus (PBUH) was crucified spread, some of them were very sad because the salvation they hoped for had ended.so the salvation was not through Jesus.
The disciples said to Jesus (PBUH) after the resurrection, "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, will you at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel ?
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses The disciples were ignorant of the kingdom of God, just like you are now. Jesus came for the world, not just for Israel. Remember the Jews killed. You even mentioned after the resurection, well do you believe in the resurecction of Jesus now?
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
, which the Father has put in his own power.
" (Acts: 1/6-7). He meant that it is not the time for the "expected king”.
Muslims have an evidence of the truth of their Prophet; The Qur’an. Such miraculous book which cannot be written by a man is their evidence. Read these verses from a Surah in the Quran which proves that we are created by a creator.
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It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth? Do ye then see The human Seed
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Moses said, like me from among your brethren. Brethren is Israelite, are you saying that Mohammad was from Israel? You don't make sense or you are an idiot. Moses plainly said, from among your brethren, that means Jewish, what part of that don't you understand? Mohammad was from Arabia, and preached to Arabia first. Jesus was from Israel and he preached to Israel first. Do you understand now? Or you don't have a brain for yourself?
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
It is We Who have created you: why will ye not witness the Truth? Do ye then see The human Seed (with its genetic map) that ye throw out (during interactions), Is it ye who create it, or are We the Creators? We have decreed Death (in the structure of the genetic maps) to be your identified destiny, and We are not to be frustrated from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (Forms) that ye know not. ....
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses Isaiah 7;14 A virgin shall conceive. Isaiah 9;6 For unto us a child is born, The Mighty God. The Quran states that Jesus is virgin born, it confirms Isaiah saying that this child is God. Or is your Quran Greek mythology? Only Jesus in the history of mankind was virgin born, read Isaiah 53 to see that only Jesus could have fulfilled all the Messianic prophecies. It's 1 in Zillion, zillio, zillions, that anybody else can fulfill the Old Testament prophecies about the Messiah.
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
You are the only nation that worship their prophet, thats why your religion is from satan .
Prophet Muhamad's words and actions prove that he is a true prophet.
at least , he did not forbade men from looking at women then allowed to himslef to be kissed and massaged his feet with perfume from a bitch as Jesus of the bible!
he did not commit fornication with his neighbor's wife then killed him as David( the father of Jesus)
he did not rape a 3 years old girls and killed non virgin ones as Moses
IslamResponses 1 year ago
@IslamResponses If you follow moses, David and Mohamad you will go to hell. Only Jesus is perfect, only God can be perfect. Jesus said if you lust after women you are sinning. Mohamad said sex with your sex slaves is permitted, now tell me which one is from God?
acceptjesus1 1 year ago
here is a young boy reciting an naba right here =)
watch?v=6CLOT7qsFAY
findtruthfindpeace 1 year ago
funiest video ever ,
alawi4boyz 1 year ago
the book of ezekiel does not show that God is perverted but that the jews of that time were so depraved that the only way to get the message across to them, the langauage had to get dirty.
antoniopooper 1 year ago
at the time when this prophecy was given to the israelites, the israelites were wayward: worshipping fertility gods and sexual immorality was widespread. God will get his message across to his intended audience with their own language using analogies that make it easy for them to understand. he won't ask u to learn a new language like arabic before u can understand his message to u.
antoniopooper 1 year ago
I found it really funny how Sam Shamoun even thought about justifying that filthy chapter by saying that the Qur'an talks about breasts. It's not even comparable.
mokhan247 1 year ago
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GlobalCitizen123 1 year ago 4
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the jews did not allow free access to reading the tanakh to males until they were old enough to marry.
antoniopooper 1 year ago
ha ha ha
just look at the face of same!
brother Shabir at his best, when he asked what were the sons of GOD were doing in Genesis!
LOL
MrMythbuster1 1 year ago
It's my understanding that the Book of Ezekiel invokes satirical language in a number of instances, some of them are so notable because they satirize the erotica that was tied into the Sumerian pagan religions, which is to say their own religious texts were very graphic, their attitude was lascivious in general. Logically, this provided an eloquent platform on which to describe Israel and Judah's faithlessness in the form of adultery aginst the true God, the God of the Bible.
XanatharEye 1 year ago
Brother Shabir shouldn't even be on the same stage as that fool Sam.
Thanks 4 da up. peace.
muslim610 1 year ago 2
sam shamoun is such a rude ass
israelifaggot 1 year ago
hey muslimbychoice did you convert to islam
im guessing you did by your username.
Just to say
Salaam and may Allah give us more knowledge.
5graffitiartist5 1 year ago
I like how Christians try to bash other religions rather than trying to defend their own lol
bubster786 1 year ago
LOL what a nasty book Ezekiel is :)
DrFMM 1 year ago 5
thanks for these debates....really a great source of knowledge.
hanzo77777 1 year ago 2
OMG the comments are funnier than the video XD.
mbksold 1 year ago
Shabir asked " WHICH AUTHOR WAS FINDING OUT WHAT THE MEMBERS OF MEN WERE LIKE AND WRITING THAT IN THE BOOK OF GOD ?"
LOOOL LETS JUST SAY A VERY SICK PERVERT AUTHOR DID THAT :D
MCDebate 1 year ago 6
@MCDebate Well said :D
perfect1oNN 1 year ago
if ezekiel 23 --- is actually read in context it easy to understand tat these wo women are actually representation of both sameria and jeruselem, so then readig on the act these two women were comparisons of the sinful acts of the inhabitace of both jerusalem and sameria
so when sam gave the out look of this passage he was right on the money, the graphc language within its context was to hit th inhabitance of these places with the truth
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago