its amazin,i now make a living as a guitar teacher and a musician,all because steve clarke looked so cool with his guitar around his ankles :) i loved that guy r.i.p my idol
Love love love this song & so wish I could do this to u baby!!! I was at a Def Leppard concert and the song Let it rock he said I guess a B***J** is out of the question & I screamed No way right here baby!!!(sorry 4 the TMI)
damn, what a stage presence these guys had. elliot's voice was in its prime, these guys were on top of the world when they were doing this gig. young, girls, #1 hit after hit after hit. they were on top of the world. im not sure what phil was thinking there with his little outro solo. anyhow, leppard at its finest in my opinion,
The audience was watching the best of the best. Wish I could have seen this show in person. Did see a show in the 90s but this was Joe at his vocal best. AWESOME!!!
anything written when rick had 2 arms was awesome. the rest is pure shit, especially the vivian days (wat a nancy slaggin ronnie off) u NI rip off sweet savage knob robbin riffs for dio.
@LPcustom76 FYI Pete WAS the reason Leppard ONCE rocked, when Phil was brought in, the sound definitely took a turn for the worse..........more pop and less rock.
@manhoot i was being sarcastic about phil's perceived talent at this time. i totaly agree that the driving force behind their first 2 albums sound was pete. but pete was an out of control booze hound on the fast road to an early demise. i doubt phil had any say in the direction their sound went, just the right guy at the right time for them. their poppy change was obviously due to the "female market". you can sell more albums and tickets if the chicks are buying too!
@LPcustom76 True enough I guess. I also blame Mutt for pushing them ( with corporate cock sucker Joe Elliot behind it all the way) for the pop rock sound. Hysteria is a joke. I don't care how much it sold, it sucked as far as a rocker album is concerned.
Justin Beeber sells lots of albums as did NKOTB but that does not make them good artists or bands.
@manhoot many rock/metal bands left their roots after 1 or 2 albums and went the more comerical route. it's all for the money. mutt did push them in this direction isn't this what the record lable pays him for? and no one was better in the 80's than mutt. joe and the boys just followed the money. i remember all the hype mtv pumped into the bands pyro video release. i was thinking that it would be some more great rock, but i was disappointed to find that they sold out as well.
@LPcustom76 MTV is evil and wholly responsible for the decline of good music. Why piss around with good songs when a good video can more than make up for a glaring lack of talent.
I LOVE the ballads, such as Hysteria and Love N Affection.. BUT THIS IS DEF LEPPARD at their hardest, purist rock form. If you've never heard Mirror Mirror.. check it NOW!
Best frontmen ever are Dave lee roth And Joe Eliot. Never could anyone make crowds as crazy as they could. ANd they've got nice live voices. Their actually better live.
I was 15 when I saw them on this tour, opening for Billy Squier (we left in satisfied metal defiance after the Leps slaughtered) before Pyromania really broke on MtV. They were as kick ass as you could possibly be at the time...
@65SteveC That was so fucked up......Then to hear band members say that his Death was more like losing a grandmother!!!!! Fucking pissed me off!!!!! That was the End of Def Leppard
thats not true, on pyromania they credit the people who wrote each song, sav was the main writer on "stagefright" and mutt the main writer on "die hard the hunter", "comin under fire" and "action not words", steve was the main writer on almost half of the album, also if you watch the hysteria classic albums they talk about who wrote what and its often not steve! so to say steve wrote everything or most of the music just isnt true
Phil may not have a writing credit, but he is credited for playing guitar. Rick isn't credited either. They split everything up equally, regardless of who is credited/isn't..
Wow !! That brings back memories, went to see them on the uk tour that year at Newcastle Mayfair. Awesome is the only word to describe that gig and i agree with the guy up there, not been the same since Steve died, just glad i got to me the guy before he died, R.I.P Steve.
When Steve Clarke went the band lost the edge as he was responsible for most of the riffs and taking a chance on playing something different. Collen is a bit clinical for me.
I would tend to agree with this. I would go even as far as stating when Pete Willis was fired. Pete has plenty of writing credits on Pyromania. I'm just not a huge Phi fan. Pretty much everything Def Leppard had done great was prior to Phil, who hasn't a writing credit at all on Pyromania. Everything after Pyromania is pretty much hit or miss for me, and mostly a shit load of misses.
Uh...No you don't. Kirk Hammett has written every Metallica solo, and he doesn't have a writing credit to his name on Kill Em All. You couldn't be more wrong. If this is the case, why does Phil not have a writing credit to his name on Pyromania?
Thats his problem then. and Metallica's. If thats how they want to work it out and get shafted.
With Leppard they are a democracy and if anyone writes, or contributes to the song in any way they get a percentage of the credit. So lets not get carried away here on whats wrong. And phil has no writing credits on Pyro, it was all completed and he layed down the tracks when Pete was asked to leave.
So, you're telling me that Phil didn't write any of his solos on the Pyromania album? LOL. Again, you couldn't be more wrong. Phil wrote a few of the solos on the record.
Yes, one gets paid for writing riffs on the album, and not solos. Phil wrote some solos for Pyromania, but he has ZERO WRITING CREDITS for the album. I'm looking at the record sleeve right now. Look inside, and you will see that Phil has ZERO WRITING CREDITS, even though he wrote some of the solos on the album. You get paid for the structure of the song, not the solo!
Jeez, dude get real and stop it! Writing lyrics or music notes means you took part in writing the song. If a band agrees to not pay you for that, they are silly and that is their decision.
You have no proof Phil wrote any "solos" on Pyro and I stand that he will not have writing credits as he did not write any of the lyrics or music. If he did anything at all on writing then it would of been discussed with the rest of the band on if he will get those credits.
Now you're pissing me off! Phil wrote the solos for Foolin', Rock, Rock (Til You Drop), Rock of Ages & Photograph. This was stated on page 77 of Def Leppard:Animal Instinct by David Fricke. For the 2nd time, you don't receive writing credits for coming up with a solo. A writing credit is awarded for coming up with the structure of a song. I've been following this band for the better part of 27 years, so please go do your homework!
I don't have the book, so cannot verify, But you can scan in those pages and ill take a look then.
There is nothing set in stone on how credits are given. If I write a solo, i expect a credit to the song. But as said above this depends on the band and how they disperse the credits and payments. As in many songs there are more than one person listed under the credits of a song, because they all worked on it and added something to the song.
Phil only wrote 3 solos for Pyromania, which were Rock Rock, Photograph, and Stagefright. Steve wrote the rest. You can go on my page and there is a interview that Steve Clark did and he said that Phil only did three and that he took the rest.
Steve wrote those solos. Look on my page at the Steve interview and he tells that Phil only did Rock Rock, Photograph, and Stagefright. That Steve did the rest. Now live, yeah Phil plays Rock of Ages and Foolin. He even does half of Billys got a gun, but Steve wrote them
I saw the same interview, and to the best of my knowledge you are correct my friend, while Phil did quite a few of the solos live he only did a handful on the album, the vast majority of the lead guitar parts were played and written by Steve, and the riffs were created by Steve and Pete Willis.
While pete was credited, most of his parts were scrapped, and replayed by phil. Phil did come up with the solos for foolin, rock of ages, photograph and stagefright. Phil seems to not get enough credit in regards to pyro.
Well I'm just going on what I saw in the interview, which was with both Steve and Phil by the way, but either way perhaps he deserves a bit more credit, but in general Petes contribution to pyro, and the band in general is not always recognised these days and thats what angers me, and the fact that the first album is ignored. I wasnt having a pop at Phil per se, but for my tastes the albums in general post pyro lack the spirit and edge of their early work.
Steve Clark wrote the majority of their songs. 47 to be exact. While everyone is credited with co authoring the songs, it is well documented that JE and SC wrote their songs.
@lesabre123 Here's the prrof from a interview in classic rock magazine I forget the year Even though Joe claims that Steve. "Rarely wrote complete songs, just great musical bits" There are at least four songs aside from Wasted that Steve Clark wrote all the music for. ROCK OF AGES, FOOLIN, When the walls came tumbling down and SWITCH Some Lange were credited for but he didn't actually write anything for them
@lesabre123 If ytou are going to go around and coprrect people please make sure you reference more than Animal instinct. I have every rock mag that the Band was ever in back in the day. So it's YOU who are wrong.
I've never read it, I've always wanted to though. I wont disagree with you because there is a chance I misunderstood what Steve was saying in the interview. Either way it goes they were all good solos.
ok the big and the small on this is , steve clark wrote riffs and solos too. phil might have done the solos you speak of on pyro , but the album sleeve does not give him not one writing credit. If he did those thats fine , but arguing about it when the SLEEVE OF THE ALBUM says different is rather juvenile. Who cares who wrote em , the album rocked. SO CHILL we are all lep fans here .... no reason to fight amongst ourselves...
I don't think you understood the crux of the argument. I was pointing out to the other individual on here that one can create a solo and not receive a writing credit on that song on the album (I.E: Phil Collen). The other individual was under the assumption that one receives a writing credit, even when their only contribution is that of the solo. This simply isn't the case, but he was one of those individuals who refused to admit when he was wrong. He should've just done his homework on this.
If I recall correctly all the songs were written on Kill Em All before Hammett was in the band. Though Hammett played the solo's on the album the argument could be made that in many instances he might have just been expanding on ideas that Dave Mustaine had developed when he was lead guitarist.
Hammett took only the first 4 bars of his solo, otherwise they were completely Kirks. Even if we tried to use that argument, and credited Dave for every solo; Dave was still only credited 4 songs on that album. The reason being, solos aren't considered when writing credits are handed out. If that were the case then Dan Spitz for Anthrax would have writing credits galore.
The rock world is a truely sad place without Steve Clark in it. If I had a time machine I'd go see Def Leppard on this tour, Priest in '79, Sabbath in '74, Humble Pie in '71... So many great moments worth reliving!
I love it. The guys are just so-o-o young in this. It amazes me every time I watch something from this time period how young they were when they started. And it's so great to watch Steve play. I love Phil and Rick, but Steve is just awesome with that guitar. I'm glad I decided to watch this. It's wonderful!
Me and My Wine! I loooove that video! It is so hilarious! JOe said when he came down the stairs and hit Phil he hit him really hard and that was his real reaction! What a great video that one is!
High and Dry is by far their very best album, then pyromania. Thats the shit, right there 1981-1984 were THE years to see def leppard livebut of course im born in fucking 91 like so many others and theres no band that got the chops like def leeppard Motley Crue or Van Halen. Motley Crue being the best of these three
Cmon, Phil is way more cooler than steve, I love steves playing but he's ugly as hell. Def Leppard is one of my favourite band, I adore em and I think Phil's playing is really great, he can make some noises come out of his guitar like no on else and he got the looks that kill
Pete Willis was a good guitarist but his addictions became a problem for the band. He messed up shows, never showed up to the studio sober and they let him go. yeah he wrote most of the songs on Pyromania and he played on a bunch of them but Phil played on the rest.
Yeah Willis just ripped everything up with Steve, but when they recorded Hysteria, Steve was sadly the *other* drunk who couldn't really play so most of the "solos" if you call it on that album were done half-assed by Mr. Shredder Collen.
yeah I think the reason for that is because Mutt wanted the more Pop type sound and Steve either couldnt or wouldnt do it and Phil would give Mutt what he wanted. However Steve did do some of the solos like on Love Bites, Armageddon It, the end solo on Pour Some Sugar on Me, and the one on Dont Shoot Shotgun he probably did some other ones but I dont know.
I've been told by sources that Clark showed up often too intoxicated to get out his guitar and record his parts. But you gotta admit the guitars were lazily arranged without much expertize on that album, and it goes the same to Collen.
That's why I prefer their first three albums. Never understood just why the band don't like the debut, because it has songs that would surely whip up the whole crowd (eg. "Wasted", "Rock Brigade", "Rocks Off") They'd get more fans back than their recent album.
From what I understand they dont really care for there first album because they felt the overdid it in terms of guitars and stuff and they felt they could have done it better. I like Def Leppard and still do but I think Mutt Lange really screwed them up yeah he made them richer than they could have ever been but he screwed them up.
It wasn't Mutt's fault. Mutt produced Back In Black. Back In Black, dude. Does that sound like shit? He produced High N Dry, too... It wasn't his nor their faults. It was the time they were in. The flashy 80's with pop everywhere. They wouldn't have survived the 80's if they didn't sell out. Were they around throughout the 70's, they could have stayed this way. Blame Gen-X, 'cause they liked that stuff.
what I meant was is that to this day they wont record an album without wondering what would Mutt do. Its like they cant quite get it on there own they do a great job, but they always talk about how once you have worked with Mutt there's no equal. Well thats the past, they need to just put out a pure, heartfelt rock album.
Well, well. Manhoot. Nice to see you're still around, and as bitter as ever. LOL Sorry, I just had to say that. Haven't talked to you in a long time. Probably because I've been more into listening to the more mature,post Pyromania Leppard than their ealier stuff. I just happen to be in the mood for the High N' Dry and Pyromania stuff tonight. You know how I feel about it. I love early Def Leppard, but I love all their later stuff just as much. No use in discussing it is there? Rock on dude!
proper rock band then. class.
manheadhall 4 days ago
needs more cowbell
itsglen9646 2 weeks ago
Heavy Metal Live!!
Metalfier 1 month ago
RIP Steve "steamin" Clark.
leoattuch 1 month ago
its amazin,i now make a living as a guitar teacher and a musician,all because steve clarke looked so cool with his guitar around his ankles :) i loved that guy r.i.p my idol
byardo 2 months ago
clark was def leppard willis was an average guiatr player at best. clark had rifs that were unorthodoxed from typical rock songs.
danielletizia 2 months ago
Rick Allen plays trad. grip.... rock on!
dws901 3 months ago in playlist dws901's favorites
kick ass song
aztecwarriorize 3 months ago
def leppard were much better before mutt lang met them!
sevenismagicman 4 months ago
Clark good, but he aint Willis
moodylisamarie 4 months ago
Pete Willis RULES
moodylisamarie 4 months ago
The whole album is non stop gold. Wow!
moodylisamarie 4 months ago
Who in their right mind could EVER deny Steve Steamin' Clark! What a real legend!
knoxpages 4 months ago
Steve Clark!!!
Ghostdancer1100 6 months ago
2 tours of US before this was better. this was the begining of the end for me.
rizzlaxl 6 months ago
3 people let it go too early
ItsAllAboutBrandon 7 months ago
RIP STEVE CLARK
astrox13 7 months ago
3 people couldn't let it go.............
badbillw 8 months ago
Pure Rock n Roll
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nummy.... joe nice n' sweaty, rick jamming out, i wish i was there!!!!! *DROOL*
paulmccartneyishot 8 months ago
nummy.... joe nice n' sweaty, rick jamming out, i wish i was there!!!!! *DROOL*
paulmccartneyishot 8 months ago
Joe can't sing without Pete Willis, haha, joking... he's a great singer, just miss willis
grantski2003 8 months ago
Love love love this song & so wish I could do this to u baby!!! I was at a Def Leppard concert and the song Let it rock he said I guess a B***J** is out of the question & I screamed No way right here baby!!!(sorry 4 the TMI)
Lostspirit38 8 months ago
damn, what a stage presence these guys had. elliot's voice was in its prime, these guys were on top of the world when they were doing this gig. young, girls, #1 hit after hit after hit. they were on top of the world. im not sure what phil was thinking there with his little outro solo. anyhow, leppard at its finest in my opinion,
naft69 8 months ago
Wish I could have made that one in '83!! Awesome!!!
jhmarshall2 9 months ago
The audience was watching the best of the best. Wish I could have seen this show in person. Did see a show in the 90s but this was Joe at his vocal best. AWESOME!!!
tomcamp6023 9 months ago
AWESOME I have never have seen this!
heavymetallove7 10 months ago
anything written when rick had 2 arms was awesome. the rest is pure shit, especially the vivian days (wat a nancy slaggin ronnie off) u NI rip off sweet savage knob robbin riffs for dio.
way to go steamin steve clark, fuckin legend!
DublinMetalhead 11 months ago
yeeaahhh,,, let it go... i remember, 16 years old....
GerryRocks64 11 months ago
wish joe could still scream like that
vprman123 1 year ago 3
Collen's just GOTTA showoff doesn't he ... uuuuuuuugh. Bring back Pete.
stringbenderE2E 1 year ago
high and dry my favorate leppard album,the hell with there albums after pyromania
ericou812 1 year ago 2
steve clark RIP.
freak99718 1 year ago
FUCK YES
pachor2 1 year ago
4:26 to 4:40 was the awesome guitar work that pete just couldn't bring. *lol*
LPcustom76 1 year ago
@LPcustom76 and Phil just can't bring it either :D
swetype3 1 year ago
@LPcustom76 FYI Pete WAS the reason Leppard ONCE rocked, when Phil was brought in, the sound definitely took a turn for the worse..........more pop and less rock.
manhoot 5 months ago
@manhoot i was being sarcastic about phil's perceived talent at this time. i totaly agree that the driving force behind their first 2 albums sound was pete. but pete was an out of control booze hound on the fast road to an early demise. i doubt phil had any say in the direction their sound went, just the right guy at the right time for them. their poppy change was obviously due to the "female market". you can sell more albums and tickets if the chicks are buying too!
LPcustom76 5 months ago
@LPcustom76 True enough I guess. I also blame Mutt for pushing them ( with corporate cock sucker Joe Elliot behind it all the way) for the pop rock sound. Hysteria is a joke. I don't care how much it sold, it sucked as far as a rocker album is concerned.
Justin Beeber sells lots of albums as did NKOTB but that does not make them good artists or bands.
manhoot 5 months ago
@manhoot many rock/metal bands left their roots after 1 or 2 albums and went the more comerical route. it's all for the money. mutt did push them in this direction isn't this what the record lable pays him for? and no one was better in the 80's than mutt. joe and the boys just followed the money. i remember all the hype mtv pumped into the bands pyro video release. i was thinking that it would be some more great rock, but i was disappointed to find that they sold out as well.
LPcustom76 5 months ago
@LPcustom76 MTV is evil and wholly responsible for the decline of good music. Why piss around with good songs when a good video can more than make up for a glaring lack of talent.
manhoot 5 months ago
Young hungry band...awesome
littlewop40 1 year ago 2
PHIL'S AMAZING!!
DefLeppard771 1 year ago
I LOVE the ballads, such as Hysteria and Love N Affection.. BUT THIS IS DEF LEPPARD at their hardest, purist rock form. If you've never heard Mirror Mirror.. check it NOW!
freshcpt 1 year ago 2
Best frontmen ever are Dave lee roth And Joe Eliot. Never could anyone make crowds as crazy as they could. ANd they've got nice live voices. Their actually better live.
bowie136 1 year ago
@bowie136 You must be on drugs. Have you heard Elliots voice lately....totally shot. Has been since the 90's.
MrTommyUdo 1 year ago
@MrTommyUdo Well atleast he had good vocals back then meaning he could actually sing and is a better vocalist than these shitty auto-tuned artists...
bowie136 1 year ago
@MrTommyUdo Sounds like the mid 80s here in this video of Stagefright from 2000 - /watch?v=gYBZ0Os_I5k
DefLeppVidz 1 year ago
@bowie136 robert plant
lifeson241 1 year ago
One of those few PERFECT rock songs
possessedspawn 1 year ago
vivian campbell is a great guitarist but they were a lot more of a rock band with steve
Aljax21 1 year ago
scorching! man these guys were red hot back then
mkeysou812 1 year ago
Probably one of the best front men in the 80's...really worked the crowd...and gorgeous
doodame 1 year ago
You got to love a song about getting a blow job:)
emb145flyer 1 year ago
I was 15 when I saw them on this tour, opening for Billy Squier (we left in satisfied metal defiance after the Leps slaughtered) before Pyromania really broke on MtV. They were as kick ass as you could possibly be at the time...
artrock101 1 year ago
@65SteveC That was so fucked up......Then to hear band members say that his Death was more like losing a grandmother!!!!! Fucking pissed me off!!!!! That was the End of Def Leppard
LiveAfterDeath666 1 year ago
Saw them in 83 backing up Billy Squier.... Young hungry band .... Probably the greatest rock performance i ever saw
littlewop40 1 year ago
@littlewop40
Where did you see them? I saw them in Denver in '82 or early '83 in Denver. They made Squire look so bad.
65SteveC 1 year ago
@grrr8one you are absolutely fucking right...riff master...... and song writing????? wrote pretty much all of it
LiveAfterDeath666 1 year ago
Back when DL had attitude.
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phil botched this pete cud do it better any day even stone cold drunk
frankenstrat25 1 year ago
don't think so. pete fucked his solos up when he wasn't drunk
lesabre123 1 year ago
Yea and then prolly punched somebody while he was at it! He got kicked out for a reason, move on with your life!
cheapseats12 1 year ago
Steve Steamin' Clark never forgotten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LiveAfterDeath666 1 year ago 40
@LiveAfterDeath666 I miss Steamin" Steve riffs...when he died the soul was sucked out of Def Leppard.....RIP STEVE
grrr8one 1 year ago
@LiveAfterDeath666
Steve Clark was awesome, still remember the day he died. What a shame.
65SteveC 1 year ago
I LOVE DEF LEPPARD!!!!! :D <3 <3 <3
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Good except for the back up vocals....Steve ??......must a been the coke....never get high before the show!!!!!
hazor777 2 years ago
oh and excuse my misspelling as I am working as I am mulitasking.
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
Can you believe they opened for BILLY SQUIER on this tour?? Saw them at Irvine Meadows!
ssweeps1 2 years ago
By the end of the tour, I believe it was the other way around.
bwall002 2 years ago
I cannot believe Leppard "fans" are arguing over senseless shit over a Def Leppard video..
Kapiwolf123 2 years ago
this is a fun song to play on guitar, lots of great riffs
cbarrett34 2 years ago
Phill kicks fucking ass
Proedge352 2 years ago
Kakkoii！It's cool！
nomoretanishi6972 2 years ago
Hey jkrus10414, where did you get the dvd for this show. I want it.
dogracing8 2 years ago
Let it Go was one of the songs for which I became a rock lunatic.I`m still a rock maniac and I`ll keep listeninig Heavy Metal and Hard Rock forever.
MGodoyable 2 years ago 21
ok, ok, ok, but how come nobody's mentioning how awesome Elliot sounds?
shawntloe 2 years ago 6
I found this and now have this entire show on DVD!
jkrus10414 2 years ago 2
ha ha ! awesome!
joshofcontempt 2 years ago 2
phil collen wrote and played the photograph solo, and did you know that steve clark was also the first man to walk on the moon?
joshofcontempt 2 years ago
Bullshit! Steve Clark flew the Command Module! Armstrong pulled rank on him and did the moon shuffle. Clark never forgave him. LOL!
hammeredwappered 2 years ago 2
thats not true, on pyromania they credit the people who wrote each song, sav was the main writer on "stagefright" and mutt the main writer on "die hard the hunter", "comin under fire" and "action not words", steve was the main writer on almost half of the album, also if you watch the hysteria classic albums they talk about who wrote what and its often not steve! so to say steve wrote everything or most of the music just isnt true
joshofcontempt 2 years ago
He's a sexy beast of a man :)
ijustfuckup 2 years ago
DEF LEPPARD 4LIFE !
bambamh20 2 years ago
Guitar orgasm at 2:17...
Metamorph1c 2 years ago
best song ever
fizzazzle 2 years ago
let it goo
estadounidensegringo 2 years ago
I saw Def Leppard on this tour way back when. This is one of my favourite Leppard tunes. One of their more rockin' songs. Great sound.
lemmyrocks 2 years ago 2
Phill Collen is the man
Proedge352 2 years ago
Phil may not have a writing credit, but he is credited for playing guitar. Rick isn't credited either. They split everything up equally, regardless of who is credited/isn't..
lesabre123 2 years ago
What are you talking about? Rick Savage is credited with 6 songs on the Pyromania album.
Almeida5 2 years ago
my comment wasn't directed towards you
lesabre123 2 years ago
he probably meant Rick Allen.
nwbritt 2 years ago
But Leppard is and always has been very democratic and gives credit when it is due.
lotustt 2 years ago
This is what hard rock is supposed to be.
derrickpistorius 2 years ago
Wow !! That brings back memories, went to see them on the uk tour that year at Newcastle Mayfair. Awesome is the only word to describe that gig and i agree with the guy up there, not been the same since Steve died, just glad i got to me the guy before he died, R.I.P Steve.
ianandterri 2 years ago
Was never the same since Willis was let go. Phil toured Pyro, but it was Pete and Steve that kicked it.
dakotaescher 2 years ago
phil played quite a bit on pyro. a lot he didn't get credit for on that album.
lesabre123 2 years ago
When Steve Clarke went the band lost the edge as he was responsible for most of the riffs and taking a chance on playing something different. Collen is a bit clinical for me.
tet1963 2 years ago
I would tend to agree with this. I would go even as far as stating when Pete Willis was fired. Pete has plenty of writing credits on Pyromania. I'm just not a huge Phi fan. Pretty much everything Def Leppard had done great was prior to Phil, who hasn't a writing credit at all on Pyromania. Everything after Pyromania is pretty much hit or miss for me, and mostly a shit load of misses.
Almeida5 2 years ago
Umm... dude, Phil wrote solos to Rock Rock till you drop , Stagefright, and Ring of fire ... if i'm not mistakin'.
Bigschwang 2 years ago
I'm sure he did. He didn't write any of the riffs for the Pyromania album. Solos aren't counted as a writing credit.
Almeida5 2 years ago
Oh i see.. sucks too me solos are as important lol. But of course... Steve was the riffmaster :D
Bigschwang 2 years ago
If you write any part of the song you get a credit for it, a percentage of the credit.
lotustt 2 years ago
Uh...No you don't. Kirk Hammett has written every Metallica solo, and he doesn't have a writing credit to his name on Kill Em All. You couldn't be more wrong. If this is the case, why does Phil not have a writing credit to his name on Pyromania?
Almeida5 2 years ago
Thats his problem then. and Metallica's. If thats how they want to work it out and get shafted.
With Leppard they are a democracy and if anyone writes, or contributes to the song in any way they get a percentage of the credit. So lets not get carried away here on whats wrong. And phil has no writing credits on Pyro, it was all completed and he layed down the tracks when Pete was asked to leave.
lotustt 2 years ago
So, you're telling me that Phil didn't write any of his solos on the Pyromania album? LOL. Again, you couldn't be more wrong. Phil wrote a few of the solos on the record.
Almeida5 2 years ago
Thats what im telling you. If you can provide some definitive proof of otherwise, then i'll wait to see it.
But Leppard gives credit when credit is due. Even Pete got paid and continues to get paid for his contributions.
lotustt 2 years ago
Yes, one gets paid for writing riffs on the album, and not solos. Phil wrote some solos for Pyromania, but he has ZERO WRITING CREDITS for the album. I'm looking at the record sleeve right now. Look inside, and you will see that Phil has ZERO WRITING CREDITS, even though he wrote some of the solos on the album. You get paid for the structure of the song, not the solo!
Almeida5 2 years ago
Jeez, dude get real and stop it! Writing lyrics or music notes means you took part in writing the song. If a band agrees to not pay you for that, they are silly and that is their decision.
You have no proof Phil wrote any "solos" on Pyro and I stand that he will not have writing credits as he did not write any of the lyrics or music. If he did anything at all on writing then it would of been discussed with the rest of the band on if he will get those credits.
lotustt 2 years ago
Now you're pissing me off! Phil wrote the solos for Foolin', Rock, Rock (Til You Drop), Rock of Ages & Photograph. This was stated on page 77 of Def Leppard:Animal Instinct by David Fricke. For the 2nd time, you don't receive writing credits for coming up with a solo. A writing credit is awarded for coming up with the structure of a song. I've been following this band for the better part of 27 years, so please go do your homework!
Almeida5 2 years ago
Lol, you are pissed off now, haaa.
I don't have the book, so cannot verify, But you can scan in those pages and ill take a look then.
There is nothing set in stone on how credits are given. If I write a solo, i expect a credit to the song. But as said above this depends on the band and how they disperse the credits and payments. As in many songs there are more than one person listed under the credits of a song, because they all worked on it and added something to the song.
lotustt 2 years ago
Phil only wrote 3 solos for Pyromania, which were Rock Rock, Photograph, and Stagefright. Steve wrote the rest. You can go on my page and there is a interview that Steve Clark did and he said that Phil only did three and that he took the rest.
nwbritt 2 years ago
You also forgot foolin' and rock of ages.
lesabre123 2 years ago
Steve wrote those solos. Look on my page at the Steve interview and he tells that Phil only did Rock Rock, Photograph, and Stagefright. That Steve did the rest. Now live, yeah Phil plays Rock of Ages and Foolin. He even does half of Billys got a gun, but Steve wrote them
nwbritt 2 years ago
I saw the same interview, and to the best of my knowledge you are correct my friend, while Phil did quite a few of the solos live he only did a handful on the album, the vast majority of the lead guitar parts were played and written by Steve, and the riffs were created by Steve and Pete Willis.
fuzzleredmenn 2 years ago
While pete was credited, most of his parts were scrapped, and replayed by phil. Phil did come up with the solos for foolin, rock of ages, photograph and stagefright. Phil seems to not get enough credit in regards to pyro.
lesabre123 2 years ago
Well I'm just going on what I saw in the interview, which was with both Steve and Phil by the way, but either way perhaps he deserves a bit more credit, but in general Petes contribution to pyro, and the band in general is not always recognised these days and thats what angers me, and the fact that the first album is ignored. I wasnt having a pop at Phil per se, but for my tastes the albums in general post pyro lack the spirit and edge of their early work.
fuzzleredmenn 2 years ago
um Steve came up with Photograph solo too. It wasn't just Phil.
Stevetherockgod 2 years ago
Phil. Phil did the solo. Don't make shit up.
lesabre123 2 years ago
Rude jerk all I siad was Steve helped write it. it even says it in the Deluxe edition booklet. No need to get snotty about it.
Stevetherockgod 2 years ago
Steve Clarke performs the solo on this song, on this live recording and in the studio too, this was off the 1981 High & Dry album
cbarrett34 2 years ago
Steve Clark wrote the majority of their songs. 47 to be exact. While everyone is credited with co authoring the songs, it is well documented that JE and SC wrote their songs.
west7productions 2 years ago
@lesabre123 Wrong on Rock of Ages Steve came up with ALL the music on it. Steve wrote it all by himself. You are misinformed.
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
@TrueSMCfan I beg to differ. You're the one who's incorrect.
lesabre123 2 years ago
@lesabre123 Here's the prrof from a interview in classic rock magazine I forget the year Even though Joe claims that Steve. "Rarely wrote complete songs, just great musical bits" There are at least four songs aside from Wasted that Steve Clark wrote all the music for. ROCK OF AGES, FOOLIN, When the walls came tumbling down and SWITCH Some Lange were credited for but he didn't actually write anything for them
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
God,will you cool it already!
46pika 2 years ago
@46pika why don't you shut the hell up who was talking to you? Asshole
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
@lesabre123 If ytou are going to go around and coprrect people please make sure you reference more than Animal instinct. I have every rock mag that the Band was ever in back in the day. So it's YOU who are wrong.
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
God....SHUT UP!
46pika 2 years ago
@46pika why don't you shut up?
TrueSMCfan 2 years ago
I read animal instinct, phil did a lot more then that. Take a look for yourself.
lesabre123 2 years ago 2
I've never read it, I've always wanted to though. I wont disagree with you because there is a chance I misunderstood what Steve was saying in the interview. Either way it goes they were all good solos.
nwbritt 2 years ago
ok the big and the small on this is , steve clark wrote riffs and solos too. phil might have done the solos you speak of on pyro , but the album sleeve does not give him not one writing credit. If he did those thats fine , but arguing about it when the SLEEVE OF THE ALBUM says different is rather juvenile. Who cares who wrote em , the album rocked. SO CHILL we are all lep fans here .... no reason to fight amongst ourselves...
dawg3277 2 years ago 3
I don't think you understood the crux of the argument. I was pointing out to the other individual on here that one can create a solo and not receive a writing credit on that song on the album (I.E: Phil Collen). The other individual was under the assumption that one receives a writing credit, even when their only contribution is that of the solo. This simply isn't the case, but he was one of those individuals who refused to admit when he was wrong. He should've just done his homework on this.
Almeida5 2 years ago
If I recall correctly all the songs were written on Kill Em All before Hammett was in the band. Though Hammett played the solo's on the album the argument could be made that in many instances he might have just been expanding on ideas that Dave Mustaine had developed when he was lead guitarist.
X1xone 2 years ago
Hammett took only the first 4 bars of his solo, otherwise they were completely Kirks. Even if we tried to use that argument, and credited Dave for every solo; Dave was still only credited 4 songs on that album. The reason being, solos aren't considered when writing credits are handed out. If that were the case then Dan Spitz for Anthrax would have writing credits galore.
Almeida5 2 years ago
oh man.
i love steve clark.
bfavre1 2 years ago
Steve Clark was a friggin genius, no other word for him.
BamaKattt 2 years ago 3
The rock world is a truely sad place without Steve Clark in it. If I had a time machine I'd go see Def Leppard on this tour, Priest in '79, Sabbath in '74, Humble Pie in '71... So many great moments worth reliving!
willthethrill77 3 years ago 4
Wow those were the days wow I was 14 then good times!!!!!!!!!!!
dawnrexgurl 3 years ago
their best song ever , if this dont get you pumped up nothing will
deflep007 3 years ago 4
i agree!!!!!!!
zombiega1 3 years ago
I love it. The guys are just so-o-o young in this. It amazes me every time I watch something from this time period how young they were when they started. And it's so great to watch Steve play. I love Phil and Rick, but Steve is just awesome with that guitar. I'm glad I decided to watch this. It's wonderful!
interveningangel 3 years ago
I loooove to hear Joe scream!!!!...And yes, Steve was the master!!!
luvjoesdimple 3 years ago 2
EXACTLY AMEN! Steve is soooo amazing! This Rocks!!!
LADYSAVS1 3 years ago
woht? me? sell bruce on ebay?
he's ok, i was thinkin of a present for Jenjen. shhhhhhhhhhhh
Gathol 3 years ago
HELL YESS!!!!
kvn89 3 years ago
me & my wine & Def Leppard
adamusein 3 years ago
Me and My Wine! I loooove that video! It is so hilarious! JOe said when he came down the stairs and hit Phil he hit him really hard and that was his real reaction! What a great video that one is!
LADYSAVS1 3 years ago
High and Dry is by far their very best album, then pyromania. Thats the shit, right there 1981-1984 were THE years to see def leppard livebut of course im born in fucking 91 like so many others and theres no band that got the chops like def leeppard Motley Crue or Van Halen. Motley Crue being the best of these three
perceval030991 3 years ago
lol you right dude, best times, i was born in 90 so XDXDXD
Bigschwang 3 years ago
Amen!
manhoot 3 years ago
si def lep avait eut un chanteur moins con,dans une autre vie,peut-etre?
natomaes 3 years ago
Geil!
dave666musik 3 years ago
Cmon, Phil is way more cooler than steve, I love steves playing but he's ugly as hell. Def Leppard is one of my favourite band, I adore em and I think Phil's playing is really great, he can make some noises come out of his guitar like no on else and he got the looks that kill
perceval030991 3 years ago
More cooler? I take it english isn't your first language?
lesabre123 3 years ago
Why ? not its not my first language but I don't see what difference it makes. I prefer phil's attitude and look thats it thats all.
perceval030991 3 years ago
omg steve looks so freakin' hot!!!
erikadl91 3 years ago
A nice reminder of how great they used to be.
Mystifier122 3 years ago
You got that right. It all went downhill after Pyromania.
manhoot 3 years ago
Hell, I'll please him. Mmm. Joeeee.
nicolevabel10 3 years ago
I love Joe Elliott!
nicolevabel10 3 years ago
It doesn't matter. Pete got a better job now, I would know. Duh, I talk to him. He is pretty nice.
nicolevabel10 3 years ago
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gosh phil collens sucks
wish pete was in this he makes the first 2 and 3 albums
666venomslegions666 3 years ago
I think Phil is an exceptional guitarist. but thats my opinion.
nwbritt 3 years ago
ok dude phill is a lot better then pete willis,without phil Prymonia and Hysteria wouldn't have been so great so shut the fuck up
wigleypictures 3 years ago
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u idiot pete made and wrote and played like half the songs on pyromania u stupid mother fucker
and why the fuck do u think i give two fucking shits about the hyssteria album because i dont u jerk off
that album was crap
PETE WILLIS MADE DEF LEPPARD HE IS DEF LEPPARD
FUCKING FAGOTT
666venomslegions666 3 years ago
Pete Willis was a good guitarist but his addictions became a problem for the band. He messed up shows, never showed up to the studio sober and they let him go. yeah he wrote most of the songs on Pyromania and he played on a bunch of them but Phil played on the rest.
nwbritt 3 years ago
Yeah Willis just ripped everything up with Steve, but when they recorded Hysteria, Steve was sadly the *other* drunk who couldn't really play so most of the "solos" if you call it on that album were done half-assed by Mr. Shredder Collen.
thehuntersmetal 3 years ago
yeah I think the reason for that is because Mutt wanted the more Pop type sound and Steve either couldnt or wouldnt do it and Phil would give Mutt what he wanted. However Steve did do some of the solos like on Love Bites, Armageddon It, the end solo on Pour Some Sugar on Me, and the one on Dont Shoot Shotgun he probably did some other ones but I dont know.
nwbritt 3 years ago
I've been told by sources that Clark showed up often too intoxicated to get out his guitar and record his parts. But you gotta admit the guitars were lazily arranged without much expertize on that album, and it goes the same to Collen.
That's why I prefer their first three albums. Never understood just why the band don't like the debut, because it has songs that would surely whip up the whole crowd (eg. "Wasted", "Rock Brigade", "Rocks Off") They'd get more fans back than their recent album.
thehuntersmetal 3 years ago
From what I understand they dont really care for there first album because they felt the overdid it in terms of guitars and stuff and they felt they could have done it better. I like Def Leppard and still do but I think Mutt Lange really screwed them up yeah he made them richer than they could have ever been but he screwed them up.
nwbritt 3 years ago
It wasn't Mutt's fault. Mutt produced Back In Black. Back In Black, dude. Does that sound like shit? He produced High N Dry, too... It wasn't his nor their faults. It was the time they were in. The flashy 80's with pop everywhere. They wouldn't have survived the 80's if they didn't sell out. Were they around throughout the 70's, they could have stayed this way. Blame Gen-X, 'cause they liked that stuff.
MeatMachineStudios 3 years ago
what I meant was is that to this day they wont record an album without wondering what would Mutt do. Its like they cant quite get it on there own they do a great job, but they always talk about how once you have worked with Mutt there's no equal. Well thats the past, they need to just put out a pure, heartfelt rock album.
nwbritt 3 years ago
Agreed.
MeatMachineStudios 3 years ago
Amen brother! Finally some other folks that understand good British rock! Thank god for that!
I was beginning to feel pretty alone here.
manhoot 3 years ago
Well, well. Manhoot. Nice to see you're still around, and as bitter as ever. LOL Sorry, I just had to say that. Haven't talked to you in a long time. Probably because I've been more into listening to the more mature,post Pyromania Leppard than their ealier stuff. I just happen to be in the mood for the High N' Dry and Pyromania stuff tonight. You know how I feel about it. I love early Def Leppard, but I love all their later stuff just as much. No use in discussing it is there? Rock on dude!
interveningangel 3 years ago