despite a great workflow, he doesnt check his left shoulder even once during the entire take-off - climb-out. bad practice. should be checking every 30 seconds. (sorry I have to critisize, dont want to encourage bad habits in myself, it helps to remind)
He looks to me hes doing a excellent job flow list works flying lear jets for a long time now we use the same method remember its a checklist not a do list verify items are covered and challlenge response is standard
He didnt muck around bringing the fuel in on start considering the airfield elev, got pretty warm there.. Also I dunno why he was dragging his arse up with flap out for so long, def not going to climb well like that..
The Caravan is such a mighty machine! a true workhorse! But i have to say i like the PC-12 very much as well! Just because it's versatile as well STOL capable and has tremendous speed!
@Nastrutius 1 bar Student Pilot, 2 bar Studen Pilot that already flew solo 3 bar Comercial Pilot (F/O), 4 bar Captain/Commander, 4 bars w/ agolden star or sun Captain/Commander with huge experience.
@davmast The King KI256 requires you to be stationary for 3 minutes to spool up otherwise they do break. Turning off a fuel tank immediately after takeoff? Spent about 3 seconds going through the checklist from after starts through to line up. Spent time programing the GPS while taxiing instead of stationary...and then had to program it again once airborne.
@andymizzi I dont want to get into this on here but the 256 says "3 minutes" as a guideline for the time that it could take to spool up. We all know it doesn't take 3 minutes for an attitude indicator to come up. And i can guarantee that it doesn't state anywhere that it needs to be stationary. For one, why would a vacuum driven AI need to be stationary during spool up. And second, if that were the case all of our ki256's would continually be broken. Have yet to come across a broken one.
@andymizziI Not sure why or if he even switched off the fuel tank after takeoff because his fuel was balanced, but either way there's no limitation. There's no need for the gps to be stationary during the setup (not an inertial nav system). And he only adjusted the flight plan in climb so he could engage the ap nav. And for the checklists, we and all other commercial operators use a challenge response checklist. He completed all flows and verified them with the check list.
@andymizziI Oh and also, its a caravan not a 747. Bottom line is more time on ground equals more money wasted, this is an airline environment, not weekend warrior. Granted, if it were ifr some of this would be different but it's not.
Checklist not cool..but if you ever forgot an important switch and someone experienced was watching, and belted you for it, you would swear by checklists, I make my own now..by the way lets get going is an examiner trick..
Watch closely, he uses a checklist. In a commercial environment such as this, we use a challenge-response type of checklist. Meaning we use memorization/flows to complete all the required items then refer to the checklist to verify all items have been completed.
@TheB787heavy No. It's somewhat impractical, especially on a noisy ramp. You check to make sure it's clear before starting, but no shouting involved. In any case, anyone close enough to be in any danger should hear the turbine starting to spool before the prop starts to spin anyway, and when the prop does start to turn on a free turbine (like the 'vans PT6), it turns fairly slow and gradually speeds up. If it were to hit something when it first starts to turn, it would be with little force.
i like the cessna caravan it is one greates planes ever i d take the caravan over the 402 any day because it is my favourt planes ever that cessna could build
Throw the guy out! I want his job and his 4 stripes. Thay PT6 driven 675hp Caravan is a dream if not the most sexy thing on this planet! + its designed for single pilot ops, means freedom.
no its funny cause there aint much to that plane.....I got over 2000 hours in a caravan and the stripes just make it funny to watch. Id take a 402 in ice over that POS any day.
Is it funny that theres a 675 hp pratt & whitney pt6 strapped to the front of it? or that it carries 9 passengers? or that it can do 170 knots on approach? but i guess a cessna 402 is better because it's not a 'single engine cessna'.
This guy is a fucking pro....wish i could do that.
pliedas 1 day ago
despite a great workflow, he doesnt check his left shoulder even once during the entire take-off - climb-out. bad practice. should be checking every 30 seconds. (sorry I have to critisize, dont want to encourage bad habits in myself, it helps to remind)
russellking747 2 days ago
He looks to me hes doing a excellent job flow list works flying lear jets for a long time now we use the same method remember its a checklist not a do list verify items are covered and challlenge response is standard
MrSky57 1 month ago
nice!
Instucablanator 1 month ago
Ahh New Mexico Airlines... whos taking the video?
fsupilot 2 months ago
He didnt muck around bringing the fuel in on start considering the airfield elev, got pretty warm there.. Also I dunno why he was dragging his arse up with flap out for so long, def not going to climb well like that..
kiwipilot84 2 months ago
@flightsimjockey its is up to the company or school that you belong as filled on OACI.
AbreuArtu 3 months ago
The Caravan is such a mighty machine! a true workhorse! But i have to say i like the PC-12 very much as well! Just because it's versatile as well STOL capable and has tremendous speed!
skydive911 4 months ago
hello A OK thanks
pavelavietor1 4 months ago
Maravilhoso..
dudume72 4 months ago
He`s already the captain and commander of his own airplane, he should be wearing 4 stripes, but that is just up to the pilot and the airliner.
AbreuArtu 5 months ago
@Nastrutius 1 bar Student Pilot, 2 bar Studen Pilot that already flew solo 3 bar Comercial Pilot (F/O), 4 bar Captain/Commander, 4 bars w/ agolden star or sun Captain/Commander with huge experience.
AbreuArtu 5 months ago
@AbreuArtu I like how you just skip private pilot - not that it's an important step to becoming a commercial pilot.... oh wait....
flightsimjockey 4 months ago
Good video. The pilot leaves a LOT to be desired for airmanship however....perhaps he should read the POH one day.
andymizzi 5 months ago
@andymizzi
please give one reason why you feel this way
davmast 3 months ago
@davmast The King KI256 requires you to be stationary for 3 minutes to spool up otherwise they do break. Turning off a fuel tank immediately after takeoff? Spent about 3 seconds going through the checklist from after starts through to line up. Spent time programing the GPS while taxiing instead of stationary...and then had to program it again once airborne.
andymizzi 3 months ago
@andymizzi I dont want to get into this on here but the 256 says "3 minutes" as a guideline for the time that it could take to spool up. We all know it doesn't take 3 minutes for an attitude indicator to come up. And i can guarantee that it doesn't state anywhere that it needs to be stationary. For one, why would a vacuum driven AI need to be stationary during spool up. And second, if that were the case all of our ki256's would continually be broken. Have yet to come across a broken one.
davmast 3 months ago
@andymizziI Not sure why or if he even switched off the fuel tank after takeoff because his fuel was balanced, but either way there's no limitation. There's no need for the gps to be stationary during the setup (not an inertial nav system). And he only adjusted the flight plan in climb so he could engage the ap nav. And for the checklists, we and all other commercial operators use a challenge response checklist. He completed all flows and verified them with the check list.
davmast 3 months ago
@davmast fuel bal limit on the 208 is 200lbs when I did my rating
kiwipilot84 2 months ago
@andymizziI Oh and also, its a caravan not a 747. Bottom line is more time on ground equals more money wasted, this is an airline environment, not weekend warrior. Granted, if it were ifr some of this would be different but it's not.
davmast 3 months ago
@davmast is that you Dave?
fsupilot 2 months ago
Checklist not cool..but if you ever forgot an important switch and someone experienced was watching, and belted you for it, you would swear by checklists, I make my own now..by the way lets get going is an examiner trick..
Nastrutius 6 months ago in playlist Aviation List
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Watch closely, he uses a checklist. In a commercial environment such as this, we use a challenge-response type of checklist. Meaning we use memorization/flows to complete all the required items then refer to the checklist to verify all items have been completed.
davmast 3 months ago 4
Wow he went through that check list really fast lol good video by the way
alexancia5279 6 months ago 2
great video thanx
notar1 7 months ago
Isn't he supposed to announce " prop clear"?
TheB787heavy 7 months ago
@TheB787heavy No. It's somewhat impractical, especially on a noisy ramp. You check to make sure it's clear before starting, but no shouting involved. In any case, anyone close enough to be in any danger should hear the turbine starting to spool before the prop starts to spin anyway, and when the prop does start to turn on a free turbine (like the 'vans PT6), it turns fairly slow and gradually speeds up. If it were to hit something when it first starts to turn, it would be with little force.
lowanfast 6 months ago
@TheB787heavy it's a free turbine...so that would mean, no
island03z 2 months ago
really cool vid !
MassrOmelDonia 8 months ago
i like the cessna caravan it is one greates planes ever i d take the caravan over the 402 any day because it is my favourt planes ever that cessna could build
i am going to be flying this my self
TheAirplane38 9 months ago
@TheAirplane38 flying one yet? Love to fly one my self tooo
notar1 7 months ago
Throw the guy out! I want his job and his 4 stripes. Thay PT6 driven 675hp Caravan is a dream if not the most sexy thing on this planet! + its designed for single pilot ops, means freedom.
skydive911 10 months ago
Throw the guy out! I want his job and his 4 stripes. Thay PT6 driven 675hp Caravan is a dream if not the most sexy thing on this planet!
skydive911 10 months ago
no its funny cause there aint much to that plane.....I got over 2000 hours in a caravan and the stripes just make it funny to watch. Id take a 402 in ice over that POS any day.
beergut111 10 months ago
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its funnt looking at a guy flying a single engine cessna wearing 4 stripes....hahaha
beergut111 10 months ago
@beergut111
Is it funny that theres a 675 hp pratt & whitney pt6 strapped to the front of it? or that it carries 9 passengers? or that it can do 170 knots on approach? but i guess a cessna 402 is better because it's not a 'single engine cessna'.
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MassrOmelDonia 8 months ago
@davmast you shouldn't have even bothered answer him ... it's not worth
MassrOmelDonia 8 months ago
@davmast no a guy wearing 4 stripes in a 402 is just as bad....
beergut111 5 months ago
@davmast
Because two engines are better than two! :D
MegaNamenlos 1 month ago
@beergut111
1 bar Student Pilot, 2 bar Private Pilot, 3 Bar First Officer, Commercial Pilot, 4 bar Captain/Commander, Airline Transport Pilot.
Nastrutius 7 months ago
@Nastrutius yeah i know what they mean.
beergut111 7 months ago
@beergut111
Cool..why I do not drink beer just coffee, cheers!
Nastrutius 7 months ago
@beergut111 Turboprop is still a turboprop
pilotblayze 5 months ago