There is nothing like this music. When my dad first introduced me to mahavishnu orchestra's music I went crazy! They weren't afraid to play anything, they could go from jazz fusion into blues in a second and then go back at a moments notice like in this song for instance they do that and it's so wild!
I saw Mavishnu Orchestra, Santana, and Weather Report in Concert along long time ago :). Man what a great show. Only problem was that people were throwing fire crackers from the upper stands and fucked up the show. I grew up digging this stuff. I tried my best to play like this on guitar ::O.
man when i was a kid this was the shit. we tried to play all this stuff back then. high and mighty and miles and daves and love and hate and life and death and up and down. :)
saw John at Ebbets field In Denver! I told my date. You will never know where the music is coming from. I went all yhree days. Great band. I went the next day and bought the same adidas sneakers that Billy Cobham had.
I have the extreme pleasure of having seen the MO several times. I first got this album after a fellow guitarist told me about this phenomenal guitarist and a band that blew everyone out of the water. I experienced them when they recorded From Nothingness to Eternity that was mind blowing night in NY's Central Park but when ever I hear this composition I feel like I am in a trance especially when the different timings come together and god it all makes perfect sense, these guys created Fusion!
incredible - first there was Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Cream, etc, then Miles and Bitches Brew, which McLaughlin played on, then this, just a yr or so after all of that, but a huge leap forward that seemed to come from out of nowhere.
@dorian4 ...but that section is called 'You Know You Know" , it doesn't sound like a parody of one of the all time rock n' roll cliche's to you ? isn't it obvious ? Sometimes I assume I am talking to youngsters, my bad. In my experience in bands from this era, musicians didn't always reveal their jokes directly to the audience, they like inside jokes and to see if the audience 'gets it'. JM is steeped in eastern religious thought and presumably gave us a musical mondo to ponder. Anywho, Enjoy !
the greatest living jazz , fusion ,rock and anything else guitarist . a true master ,he makes the hair on my neck stand up . please Billy ,Rick , Jerry and of course John get back in the studio at least one more time .
@dorian4 I was referring to the odd metered part that sounds like a perverted rock and roll riff in the middle of the tune. JM has a sense of humor and made that part a sarcastic aside to simplistic self indulgence in Rock music. You didn't get that ? Oh well, I guess you had to be alive then at the time immersed in the culture of the time to understand that or be able to understand JM's subtleties and sense of humor. Clean the wax out of your ears and listen again. Hear it this time?
@videocanone For me the second section is where the soloists are able to be funky and solo ala a blues "boogie", albeit in an odd metered way. If I read a description using the adjective “cheesy” I assume a critique. Obviously you are entitled but so I am I. “You Know You Know” is without a doubt one of my favorite McLaughlin tunes. It is brooding and hopeful, mysterious and very pure. It has depth and it allows for all manner of playing. It is a very fine composition.
@videocanone Thanks for the lecture and the advice (wax ain't a problem, but age and hearing MO I live 4 times may be). However, hearing JM speak of that section during his intro to their SUNY concert belies your theory. I do not think he wrote the section as a humorous take off. My understanding of his personality, musical history and spiritual questing is that he is sincere to a fault (note Zappa's many comments).
Every time I hear this tune I think of DOOM !!! Most think heavymetal is scary, but I find this tune particularly scary until the cheesy rock and roll 'You Know you know" part.
@videocanone I would imagine the real cheese would be heard with you trying to solo in the 20/8 section. I really do not see how the second section is "cheesy". The solos are superb, especially JMac's. Then the overlaying sections coming together --pure joy.
Too eerie and bizarre until it gets into the blues stuff- the solo is freakin great.
He and Hendrix jammed, I heard Jimi could play fast like this. John said supposedly there were tapes of them and if they were any good he'd release them.
OMG Why did I play this video? Now I'll have these conficting / convergent time signatures in my head permanently for 2 or 3 weeks !!! I thought I would never subject myself to this again LOL. Dude, these guys could put more stuff in your head in the first 3 or 4 measures of a song than a sack of dope could. The more you follow (or rather try to follow it ) the more humbled you were ! And they jam on top of this like it was a nursery song.....
I remember when my cousin Nick showed me this song for the first time after we smoked a huge cannon, it tripped me right the fuck out and still does to this day. My favorite part is definatly when the guitar rhythm sounds in 3/4 and the drums are in 4/4, but flow perfectly together. Starting at 0:55
You could count this a number of ways, but that's not one of them. The way I count it is three measures of 6/8 followed by one measure of 2/8. The guitar is in the same time signature, but is throwing you off by playing notes on the first, third, and fourth beats (like 3/4) instead of the first and fourth beats (like 6/8). Basically, it's quarters over dotted eighths; 2 over 3. Polyrhythms FTW!
Theres a McLaughlin interview where he talks about explaining to cobham how 3/4 over 4/4 could work. He hummed it or something. It's in 10/4 so it's 3-3-4. Tough stuff!
John McLaughlin's solo is inspired to say the least.
10CentHead 1 month ago
Thank You!
MattieCooper 2 months ago
Most talented group ever assembled, period!
pewtergod 4 months ago
There is nothing like this music. When my dad first introduced me to mahavishnu orchestra's music I went crazy! They weren't afraid to play anything, they could go from jazz fusion into blues in a second and then go back at a moments notice like in this song for instance they do that and it's so wild!
guitar5289 4 months ago
First MO song I heard... Got me extreeeemmly hooked!
FlowerEatersMusic 5 months ago 7
I saw Mavishnu Orchestra, Santana, and Weather Report in Concert along long time ago :). Man what a great show. Only problem was that people were throwing fire crackers from the upper stands and fucked up the show. I grew up digging this stuff. I tried my best to play like this on guitar ::O.
jazzynet1 6 months ago
man when i was a kid this was the shit. we tried to play all this stuff back then. high and mighty and miles and daves and love and hate and life and death and up and down. :)
whew :)
jazzynet1 6 months ago
saw John at Ebbets field In Denver! I told my date. You will never know where the music is coming from. I went all yhree days. Great band. I went the next day and bought the same adidas sneakers that Billy Cobham had.
jdconlee 7 months ago
This is AWESOME! This totally works my brain! Love it!!!
mzfreckleface 9 months ago
I have the extreme pleasure of having seen the MO several times. I first got this album after a fellow guitarist told me about this phenomenal guitarist and a band that blew everyone out of the water. I experienced them when they recorded From Nothingness to Eternity that was mind blowing night in NY's Central Park but when ever I hear this composition I feel like I am in a trance especially when the different timings come together and god it all makes perfect sense, these guys created Fusion!
Deaconblue2u 9 months ago
incredible - first there was Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Cream, etc, then Miles and Bitches Brew, which McLaughlin played on, then this, just a yr or so after all of that, but a huge leap forward that seemed to come from out of nowhere.
sundaysatvics 10 months ago
One of my fav songs
Haisen 10 months ago
@dorian4 ...but that section is called 'You Know You Know" , it doesn't sound like a parody of one of the all time rock n' roll cliche's to you ? isn't it obvious ? Sometimes I assume I am talking to youngsters, my bad. In my experience in bands from this era, musicians didn't always reveal their jokes directly to the audience, they like inside jokes and to see if the audience 'gets it'. JM is steeped in eastern religious thought and presumably gave us a musical mondo to ponder. Anywho, Enjoy !
videocanone 10 months ago
the greatest living jazz , fusion ,rock and anything else guitarist . a true master ,he makes the hair on my neck stand up . please Billy ,Rick , Jerry and of course John get back in the studio at least one more time .
bobilly1492 11 months ago
this kind of music should be called trance...
413Kristianna 11 months ago
@dorian4 I was referring to the odd metered part that sounds like a perverted rock and roll riff in the middle of the tune. JM has a sense of humor and made that part a sarcastic aside to simplistic self indulgence in Rock music. You didn't get that ? Oh well, I guess you had to be alive then at the time immersed in the culture of the time to understand that or be able to understand JM's subtleties and sense of humor. Clean the wax out of your ears and listen again. Hear it this time?
videocanone 11 months ago
@videocanone For me the second section is where the soloists are able to be funky and solo ala a blues "boogie", albeit in an odd metered way. If I read a description using the adjective “cheesy” I assume a critique. Obviously you are entitled but so I am I. “You Know You Know” is without a doubt one of my favorite McLaughlin tunes. It is brooding and hopeful, mysterious and very pure. It has depth and it allows for all manner of playing. It is a very fine composition.
dorian411 10 months ago
@videocanone Thanks for the lecture and the advice (wax ain't a problem, but age and hearing MO I live 4 times may be). However, hearing JM speak of that section during his intro to their SUNY concert belies your theory. I do not think he wrote the section as a humorous take off. My understanding of his personality, musical history and spiritual questing is that he is sincere to a fault (note Zappa's many comments).
dorian411 10 months ago
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
flippenpinoi 11 months ago
@flippenpinoi
Part A 123 123 1234, Part B 123456 123456 12345678 usual Indian stuff!
pleximanic 11 months ago
My favorite song from my favorite album from my favorite group favorite guitar player
sitardude2000 1 year ago
Every time I hear this tune I think of DOOM !!! Most think heavymetal is scary, but I find this tune particularly scary until the cheesy rock and roll 'You Know you know" part.
videocanone 1 year ago
@videocanone I would imagine the real cheese would be heard with you trying to solo in the 20/8 section. I really do not see how the second section is "cheesy". The solos are superb, especially JMac's. Then the overlaying sections coming together --pure joy.
dorian411 11 months ago
My name is Maya. :)
superdude241 1 year ago
@superdude241
mine is Maia :)
maiaangelo 1 year ago
violin on wahwah.
what a kick-ass
oknarbtal 1 year ago
Too eerie and bizarre until it gets into the blues stuff- the solo is freakin great.
He and Hendrix jammed, I heard Jimi could play fast like this. John said supposedly there were tapes of them and if they were any good he'd release them.
mjazzguitar 1 year ago
For anyone who's interested, jamming over this on D gets some interesting results....
masterofscotland 1 year ago
3:10 sounds like a slayer solo lmao
theBASSOE 1 year ago
OMG Why did I play this video? Now I'll have these conficting / convergent time signatures in my head permanently for 2 or 3 weeks !!! I thought I would never subject myself to this again LOL. Dude, these guys could put more stuff in your head in the first 3 or 4 measures of a song than a sack of dope could. The more you follow (or rather try to follow it ) the more humbled you were ! And they jam on top of this like it was a nursery song.....
JPGRMartin 1 year ago
@bedpotato The drummer is playing in 20/8, (compound, of course)
marb13f00t 1 year ago
Goal to King Crimson,sorry Rob ;)
carmenputera 1 year ago
Is it me, or is this extremely weird?
Boingusboingus 1 year ago
An incredibly intense, haunting and powerful piece. The opening is unreal........
devmaggie 1 year ago
jerry goodman really hits the spot 2:42 holy shit...
Jarakader 1 year ago
Really, an astounding piece of prog/jazz /rock composition often copied but never topped...
mitzjob 1 year ago
I remember when my cousin Nick showed me this song for the first time after we smoked a huge cannon, it tripped me right the fuck out and still does to this day. My favorite part is definatly when the guitar rhythm sounds in 3/4 and the drums are in 4/4, but flow perfectly together. Starting at 0:55
Arcanecide 1 year ago 9
@Arcanecide is your cousins surname Hall by any chance?
frogman254 1 year ago
@Arcanecide my eyes just went slanted right there
ambinautic 1 year ago
@Arcanecide It's 10/8 time
bedpotato 1 year ago 6
@bedpotato and the drums are playing 20/16, that's what makes it so nice and weird at the same time
vejleskatermusic 11 months ago
@bedpotato
10/4
cowhyde72 4 months ago
@Arcanecide
You could count this a number of ways, but that's not one of them. The way I count it is three measures of 6/8 followed by one measure of 2/8. The guitar is in the same time signature, but is throwing you off by playing notes on the first, third, and fourth beats (like 3/4) instead of the first and fourth beats (like 6/8). Basically, it's quarters over dotted eighths; 2 over 3. Polyrhythms FTW!
colourfulwithaU 5 months ago
@Arcanecide
Dotted quarters*** my mistake.
colourfulwithaU 5 months ago
@Arcanecide A Gem
johnmoore1311 3 months ago
I can't stop hearing!!!
Brenorfs 1 year ago
jah
dickrumsfeld 2 years ago
the definitive solo IMHO. : )
svcroller 2 years ago
Darkness before the Light...
dorian411 2 years ago
Internal Mounting Flame is a compilation of beautiful mixed up music meant for the mad ! Anyway I luv it once a while.
Pakanistan 2 years ago
The definitive McLaughlin solo IMHO.
gulucka 2 years ago
@gulucka Yes. JM certainly KNOWS how to kick a song into high gear!
dorian411 1 year ago
ranks up there with 'King Crimson's' (Fracture) as the best art-rock instrumental ever written...
TheMitzjob 2 years ago 5
Good call.
bedpotato 2 years ago
I tried to play with my band this song and it was fucking difficult
gutouchiha 2 years ago 2
Theres a McLaughlin interview where he talks about explaining to cobham how 3/4 over 4/4 could work. He hummed it or something. It's in 10/4 so it's 3-3-4. Tough stuff!
bedpotato 2 years ago
link?
kwakky 2 years ago
It might have been in Guitar Player Magazine
bedpotato 2 years ago
link?
kwakky 2 years ago
Great. I used to go jogging with a cassette walkman hearing Mahavishnu Orchestra when I was 19. Liked "Birds of Fire" the most.
kasimodo72 2 years ago
Killer album.
bedpotato 2 years ago
I like what you have done with this Video, fits the mood well.
gingerb91 2 years ago
Thanks :)
bedpotato 2 years ago
Agreed.
bigowe 2 years ago
You! Odepius Pollus?!
gingerb91 2 years ago
Broham is correct
jamalam17z7 2 years ago
indeed.
bigowe 2 years ago
juicy stuff
jamalam17z7 2 years ago