God Under The Microscope 2

[nevisanna]

Mary Warnock is speaking in London in Nov at a debate on assisted suicide, held by intelligence squared - she's got an amazing brain, I'd definitely like to hear her argue her side.

[funkydafunker]

" Blessed are the cheesemakers "

[Mark27nj]

jessica, you posted too many comments for me to reply to.

I have replied to your pm.

If you want we can continue discussing through pm's.

However, be advised i'm not very patient with creationists.You won't make me run all over the internet giving you all the information you request of me, just for you to ignore it all.

I have learned my lesson.

You really don't want to learn, so why ask questions?

[jesica333]

well lets continue through PMs

[nickyact1]

Thank you for posting this, i have been looking for this one for a while. I agree with you about Creationists. I now realise it is virtually impossible for the True believer to even consider the possibility of a universe without a creator, it's just too much a part of their identity. Thanks again for the post.

[jesica333]

Have you ever heard of Charles Dawson AKA pitdown faker.. check him on bbc or wiki... and check the lies he made to support evolution so how can i belibe other evolutionists are correct?

[jesica333]

SO, there is No God, even Bible says that People in the last days will reject God and will listen to what they want to not to what is the truth, In terms of science tell me where are the fossil records... Now dont send me link of 10 or 20 fossils you should be able to send me millions... if u can find skelitons of 3.5 millions year old, then why not give me complete fossil record... You talk about evidence then have u ever read Bible...?

[Mark27nj]

So, if it is well known, how come you still didn't present any of it?

Are you trying to hide something?

C'mon, show me one paper, one scientists research into any of these claims.

Or are you just making these claims, but never actually read one single paper where this evidence was demonstrated?

Hmmmmmm......

[jesica333]

Well what evidence u talking about? what Dawkins wanted to put adverts on the busses in london claiming "THERE IS NO GOD" and it was changed to "PROBABLY THERE IS NO GOD" because he was asked to prove there is no GOD and he coudnt, as Darwins Theory is still known as a Theory along with 100s of other theorys but who has proved it to be a fact???????

[jesica333]

Just to avoid restriction on certain things people accept there is no one above them...

[Mark27nj]

Is that why you refuse to believe in AllaH?

Or in Vishnu?

Or in Gaia?

You see why you don't believe in all these other gods?

That's why i don't believe in yours.

But i guess that's too hard a concept for you to grasp.

After all, if you didn't believe there was anyone above you, you wouldn't have restrictions on anything, and would probably run around naked stabbing people in the street huh?

[cublop]

DAWKINS looks like a Mason or a Satanist cause he mocks religion like it was only supersition

RELIGION (CATHOLIC) has many proofs on REAL PRESENCE OF GOD in SAINTS in MIRACLES

and THEOLOGIE in SAINT THOMAS Aquinas Saint Agustin many many many more

i believe Dawkins has a knolledge of Religion like a kid of 6 years

[Mark27nj]

Reading what you're saying, that the catholic church has proof of god through saints and miracles, shows who really has the 6 yr old understanding of religion.

Guess what, my daughter lost a tooth, and put it under the pillow.When she woke up, there were $5 there!

Undeniable proof that the tooth fairy is real!!

[cublop]

Saint PIO

Saint FRANCIS

LOURDES

FATIMA

theres a lot of scientific proofs of unexplained MIRACES of cures and supernatural things

you cannot talk without know

[Mark27nj]

Dude, i WAS a catholic.

My father WAS from Fatima, and i lived there from 6 to 8 yrs old.

It's all baloney dude.

You say there's alot of scientific proof, but who's doing the science?

The priests?

Yeah sure, i'll trust them...

[cublop]

well if you dont want to believe if you dont even want to invest and read and see

at last you choose

[Mark27nj]

What are you on about?

I did read and investigated.

But maybe you could show me some evidence you think i might have overlooked.

You seem to be certain that there is undeniable proof.Bring some of it up to the table.

You named certain miracles, but be more specific about any undeniable evidence you think you have on any of them.

[cublop]

well as you dont believe in Church in Saints and cause of this in JESUS i dont believe in you so simple as that

[jesica333]

Agreed!

[Mark27nj]

" i dont believe in you so simple as that"

Lol.

You don't believe in me?

I'm not the one claiming to have scientific evidence of miracles and saints.

You're the one making claims, yet when asked to back them up, you run away with dodgy arguments.

It's ok, i understand.You just reeeeealy need to believe.

[cublop]

is well know, all Saints and all real manifestations like Lourdes or FATIMA were investigated by scientifics and Vatican then give Yes or Not ...

but oher thing

did you KNOW than G.LEMEITRE was a priesrt and the responsable of Big Bang theorie... or G.MENDEL or Pascal or Volta had Strong Catholic belief ...

from fruits you know the tree

[Mark27nj]

And yes, i know some scientists believe(d) in god.

But has nothing to do with trees or fruits.

The tree you talk about has also persecuted many scientists, and hindered scientific research.

What fruits does your tree have to show?

Giordano Bruno?Copernicus?

For crying out loud, your book claims the sun circles the earth.(Joshua 10)

Sounds like those fruits are rotten, to me.

[jesica333]

Atleast we claim using a principle no by saying this happen by chance... In that case If u are made by chance, Your brain is created by chance then cannot even trust your own Logice overall its by chance and in that case u might not be even asking correct question... we dont make dogy arguments, we use bible and tell me which of your scientist have proved that bible is fake made up book even your carbon dating cant prove it wrong...

[jesica333]

mate there is a big difference between fairy tales and God, i dont understand why people compare fairy tales with GOD?

[Mark27nj]

"mate there is a big difference between fairy tales and God, i dont understand why people compare fairy tales with GOD?"

I don't see any diference.

Maybe you could explain it to me?

[jesica333]

Buddy there is a massive difference tell me one person on this plannet who belive a fairy tale to be their religion, and now dont say that Bible is a fairy tale, becasue a fairy tale has no principles other than thing that we belive are impossible... e.g. King comming on horse kissing a princes who was attacked by witch and then happy ending... and Bible i based on Prophecies, Principles, facts, and happy endinf for few only... Check my PM and we will proceed further...

[zhuljiks]

very healthy discussion. the way to go!