Yes the reliability on mine is fine. The only problem I have *ever* had is with the battery but I think I just got a dud from the showroom.
I think people here are just grouping MGs in with Lotus, since MG is well known to be unreliable. The new Elises have sealed Toyota 2ZZ 1.8L engines and great build quality.
@StigasaurusRex I can see why you'd say that... maybe a bit when it's idling, but at the same time, I know the 430 sounds much much, much more aggressive than this.
Dude, the American market version just has a Toyota Celica engine bumped up to 190hp. What would break down? The entire car doesn't have anything complicated on it to break. It is just a light weight car with a small engine, barely any electronics and as few mechanical parts as you can put on it. I honestly don't have any data to back this up, but seriously - there is no way that it is unreliable.
ok but im just saying as a brand overall im not just talking about the engine. i know porsche and lexus are the two most reliable cars according to jd power and associates with 90 problems per 100 vehicles meanwhile land rover did a landmark worst with 300-400. i was wondering where a lotus would fit. also i have no doubt that maintenance fees and replacement parts would be a fortune.
They're very well built machines, assuming you know how to drive. Definitely not a beginner's car. However, in terms of overall reliability, they're great. The opinions you've heard have clearly been from Lotus haters - and they are out there.
Well, fair enough. Some people have differing opinions about cars. I will admit that a British sports car is a totally different beast from most of the American stuff around here. One thing to keep in mind, though; almost every mechanical part on this is Japanese.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Lotus Elise but the exhaust note is not it's best virtue. The Borla exhaust on my Jeep Liberty sounds better than that, hehe.
The only real reason they now use a toyota engine in there instead of the k-series engine is because lotus want to introduce the elise into the american market and so hadto change it due to US emissions laws.......work that one out when most people drive round in V8 powered cars in the US. That clip really doesn't do it justice it sounds better when you're standing next to it or even better in the cabin
my dad bought one for 35k, turned around and sold it for 30k 6 months later with only 1k extra miles. its pretty bad. You can find early models in the low 20's and they still don't have more than 20k on the odo.
every car depreciates quickly, outside a handful of cars Porsche being one... but try taking a Boxter back after 6 months, how can you be given near the asking price when the dealer has to make a profit. My Series one Elise I got in 97 is still worth around 10,000 and it cost 21,000, that's pretty good, most cars from 97 are worth a thousand or so, even if they cost 20,000.
That may be true, but do you see a Toyota sticker on this? You can have Toyota parts all you want, but it doesn't have the name lol. Just like Lexus, they are all Toyota parts, but they are extremely fast depreciating value. Should it be that way? Probably not. Is it that way? Yes.
@papaown I think you'll find your wrong . they do not depreciate nearly as fast as many cars on the market you can buy an 06 with 21000 miles for £20000 (when its driven well) from £26000? wouldn't really say they depreciate fast would you?
With gas prices now, who wouldnt want a "rare" Lotus elise with a RELIABLE toyota engine? granted its not the fastest thing you'd drive, but this is a car you cruise in and get like 25mpg city and 30 highway...whats wrong with that? look at its beautiful curves and shape...its an all out sports car with a fuel friendly engine and and not your everyday boxster. thumbs up on style, engine, fuel consumption and handling.
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I hate lotus engines. They sound like crap because they use rice car toyota engines. If you like lotus sounds then you like rice car sounds. They sound like a honda almost and from a distance you would be waiting to see a honda ricer come flying by. If i ever buy one it will be getting a engine swap.
if you care that much about just sound, then u must be a ricer yourself its about the car, the sound is just extra if you're willing to do all that work just to get a different sound, you are a fucking idiot and should never own a nice car
i loved lotus elise until i realized it has almost the same engine as my fucking celica. it does sounds exactly like a ricer. guess i will have to spend my money on a Corvette after all :D haha fucking new corvettes are like the best stock car of all time
I want a exige but if I get it ill be cramming some other 6 cyl engine in it. Might have to cut the trunk out to fit it but o well. I was thinking a Acura NSX engine would be nice in it. Be faster and put out a exotic car sound.
NSX is like hondas exotic. Thats why a used NSX tranny and engine go for $15,000 plus and a Elise engine+trany goes for like $1500. And theirs a vid on youtube of a exige with a nsx engine in it. they call it a 3.0 engine and dont say its just a nsx engine cause the ywant to make it sound more special than it really is.
????? wait, please just think about what you said..an exotic Honda? sounds a bit of an oxymoron..
just because Honda overprices the value of the engine and transmission does not make it exotic, when, in fact, the Honda Accord also gets the option of the same engine and transmission as the NSX. Does that make the Accord exotic as well? hypothetically speaking, that would be like General Motors stating that any of their vehicles that carry the Vortec engine are more exotic than say, a Ford Focus
the reason the price of the 3.0 VTEC, with accompanying transmission, is so high is because of reliability not because it sounds more exotic than a Toyota 4 cylinder
Well I guess Toyota trusts YAMAHA because thats who really built it and designed it from the ground up. hehe.
And knowing from experience, this engine is very hard to keep in lift and post good track times. And a honda (b18c or k-series is a lot easier to keep in the high rpm power band)
And thank you for keeping the exhaust stock. I agree with f0rdman a loud buzzing aftermarket system totally ruins this nimble exotic little car.
i like the way it sounds stock best. with less constrictive mufflers it's too loud for it's own good.. sounds like a honda. Other than it's bland sound, it's a very quick and aesthetically pleasing car.
Well of course there used to be 2 stroke cars. In natural aspiration.. 2 stroke engines make more power than a 4 stroke, not as much low end torque but much more higher end hp. I remember they were very common in the motorcycles because of the reason above.
My lawnmower sounds like that too.
paintedd 5 months ago
Nice Toyota.
ABSjazz 6 months ago
Nice color changing Elise. I want one that shifts from orange to green, but orange to red is pretty cool.
ShawnMarkMc 7 months ago
This car's Toyota-powered?
gtaspecialist900 7 months ago
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I have one for sale. It is a hard top convertible Lotus Elise 05 with 35k miles. Asking price is only $24,999
CavalloIvan 9 months ago
sounds like shit dude....
hootblah 9 months ago
nice looking car but the sound is weeeaaak!
daholocaust 1 year ago
Toyota *.*"
Raimondo988 1 year ago
is really fast car!!!but i have not!!
dragonquest20 1 year ago
would someone agree taking the zz engine out and putting k20 in it??? better engine right!!!
jdm27ef 1 year ago
@jdm27ef yeh. after i get mine id like to save up and put in a k20
ItsRyanStudios 1 year ago
@ItsRyanStudios why would you do that?
snaundersduu 1 year ago
is that the sound it makes when brand new?
COCHIAIRWAYS 1 year ago
@COCHIAIRWAYS ya stock
UNDERRATEDMCS 1 year ago
Rex,,,definately just you, to me it sounds like my electric weed wacker.
MrSlicksnake 1 year ago
Oh My God that sound is beautiful
thebigAteam 1 year ago
Yes the reliability on mine is fine. The only problem I have *ever* had is with the battery but I think I just got a dud from the showroom.
I think people here are just grouping MGs in with Lotus, since MG is well known to be unreliable. The new Elises have sealed Toyota 2ZZ 1.8L engines and great build quality.
ghelyar 2 years ago
is it just me or does this little 4 cyl sound just like the 430's v8?
StigasaurusRex 2 years ago
@StigasaurusRex its just you
freshfruit23 2 years ago
yup
:)
njden 2 years ago
@StigasaurusRex I can see why you'd say that... maybe a bit when it's idling, but at the same time, I know the 430 sounds much much, much more aggressive than this.
LostChildOfTime 1 year ago
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l-o-t-u-s
Lots Of Trouble Usualy Serious
byronpowerband23 2 years ago
not any more the 1.8 toyota engine is good that was an old rep for the esprit
redeyeguy1976 2 years ago
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f-u-c-k y-o-u
COCHIAIRWAYS 2 years ago
how reliable are these cars? i hear they're worse than range rovers meaning they will break down while driving? any insight?
tennisplaya1869 2 years ago
Dude, the American market version just has a Toyota Celica engine bumped up to 190hp. What would break down? The entire car doesn't have anything complicated on it to break. It is just a light weight car with a small engine, barely any electronics and as few mechanical parts as you can put on it. I honestly don't have any data to back this up, but seriously - there is no way that it is unreliable.
200degMrFahrenheit 2 years ago
ok but im just saying as a brand overall im not just talking about the engine. i know porsche and lexus are the two most reliable cars according to jd power and associates with 90 problems per 100 vehicles meanwhile land rover did a landmark worst with 300-400. i was wondering where a lotus would fit. also i have no doubt that maintenance fees and replacement parts would be a fortune.
tennisplaya1869 2 years ago
The toyota engine is very reliable.
jeffgooloolie 2 years ago 15
toyota motor and transmission...i'd say its pretty reliable.
jvelos3 2 years ago 3
as a british car, it has maaany reliability problems, but it's one of the best cars of its range, it's awesome fun and fast!
COCHIAIRWAYS 2 years ago
They're very well built machines, assuming you know how to drive. Definitely not a beginner's car. However, in terms of overall reliability, they're great. The opinions you've heard have clearly been from Lotus haters - and they are out there.
LittleFoxDude 2 years ago 2
actually, i've heard from even lotus owners that the reliability is not so great, which is generally what i hear about british sports cars.
and trust me, im not a lotus hater. if i could afford to have one as a second car i would
bp240 2 years ago
Well, fair enough. Some people have differing opinions about cars. I will admit that a British sports car is a totally different beast from most of the American stuff around here. One thing to keep in mind, though; almost every mechanical part on this is Japanese.
LittleFoxDude 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I love the Lotus Elise but the exhaust note is not it's best virtue. The Borla exhaust on my Jeep Liberty sounds better than that, hehe.
6irondriver 2 years ago
The only real reason they now use a toyota engine in there instead of the k-series engine is because lotus want to introduce the elise into the american market and so hadto change it due to US emissions laws.......work that one out when most people drive round in V8 powered cars in the US. That clip really doesn't do it justice it sounds better when you're standing next to it or even better in the cabin
jarrus464 2 years ago
¬¬ sounds like a nissan tsuru, thats why a love v8 cars
Zero081086 2 years ago 2
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bayarde718 2 years ago
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fuck you i got a ferrari 360 spider and lambo revington and the james bond car from casino royale i,m a fucking bilonaire bitch
shawntubedude 2 years ago
o lol what are bilonaires doing on utube now days?
naniekso 2 years ago
sweet, next you should hire someone to teach you how to fucking spell if you're that rich.
MORON.
brssmnky88 2 years ago
I want this so bad.
stephenswickedcool 3 years ago
Everything up to like 4000rpm sounds like crap.
ambientflier 3 years ago
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stock sucks
joesuzuki108 3 years ago
hmm... i like the car and the looks and the sound. but hows the reliability?
apricotsnms516 3 years ago
the depreciation on these things are ridiculous
deff buy one used
SilverBoarder312 3 years ago
my dad bought one for 35k, turned around and sold it for 30k 6 months later with only 1k extra miles. its pretty bad. You can find early models in the low 20's and they still don't have more than 20k on the odo.
kmk408ci 3 years ago
the reliability is of a toyota engine, because well it is a toyota engine, great reliability but they do depreciate fast
papaown 3 years ago 14
every car depreciates quickly, outside a handful of cars Porsche being one... but try taking a Boxter back after 6 months, how can you be given near the asking price when the dealer has to make a profit. My Series one Elise I got in 97 is still worth around 10,000 and it cost 21,000, that's pretty good, most cars from 97 are worth a thousand or so, even if they cost 20,000.
ukeuro23 2 years ago
@papaown Are retarded? Toyota parts and cars are one of the least depreciating vehicles/ car parts.
Barwinn 1 year ago
@Barwinn
That may be true, but do you see a Toyota sticker on this? You can have Toyota parts all you want, but it doesn't have the name lol. Just like Lexus, they are all Toyota parts, but they are extremely fast depreciating value. Should it be that way? Probably not. Is it that way? Yes.
papaown 1 year ago
@papaown good for people getting them used
My dream car for 25,000 =D lol
ItsRyanStudios 1 year ago
@papaown The Lotus Elise value depreciate fast.
charli3boi 1 year ago
@papaown The lotus elise value depreciates fast?? I didn't know that?
charli3boi 1 year ago
@papaown Thats not true! Elise is one of the fasters cars one earth with just 4 cyl.
vendedordepao 8 months ago
@vendedordepao
Did I ever once say it's slow? Please read.
papaown 8 months ago
@papaown I think you'll find your wrong . they do not depreciate nearly as fast as many cars on the market you can buy an 06 with 21000 miles for £20000 (when its driven well) from £26000? wouldn't really say they depreciate fast would you?
joshcroucher 8 months ago
wow nice sound! how many hp?
Lucarex14 3 years ago
190hp stock. but the weight is really what counts on the lotus.
apricotsnms516 3 years ago
very nice 190 Hp!
Lucarex14 3 years ago
With gas prices now, who wouldnt want a "rare" Lotus elise with a RELIABLE toyota engine? granted its not the fastest thing you'd drive, but this is a car you cruise in and get like 25mpg city and 30 highway...whats wrong with that? look at its beautiful curves and shape...its an all out sports car with a fuel friendly engine and and not your everyday boxster. thumbs up on style, engine, fuel consumption and handling.
DTHPRF66 3 years ago
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I hate lotus engines. They sound like crap because they use rice car toyota engines. If you like lotus sounds then you like rice car sounds. They sound like a honda almost and from a distance you would be waiting to see a honda ricer come flying by. If i ever buy one it will be getting a engine swap.
getdrunk1990 3 years ago
if you care that much about just sound, then u must be a ricer yourself its about the car, the sound is just extra if you're willing to do all that work just to get a different sound, you are a fucking idiot and should never own a nice car
unloadedboar1 3 years ago 3
i loved lotus elise until i realized it has almost the same engine as my fucking celica. it does sounds exactly like a ricer. guess i will have to spend my money on a Corvette after all :D haha fucking new corvettes are like the best stock car of all time
SirNaggerOfJones 3 years ago
I want a exige but if I get it ill be cramming some other 6 cyl engine in it. Might have to cut the trunk out to fit it but o well. I was thinking a Acura NSX engine would be nice in it. Be faster and put out a exotic car sound.
getdrunk1990 3 years ago
You understand the the NSX is a Honda, and uses vtec right?
skyline3270 3 years ago
NSX is like hondas exotic. Thats why a used NSX tranny and engine go for $15,000 plus and a Elise engine+trany goes for like $1500. And theirs a vid on youtube of a exige with a nsx engine in it. they call it a 3.0 engine and dont say its just a nsx engine cause the ywant to make it sound more special than it really is.
getdrunk1990 3 years ago
????? wait, please just think about what you said..an exotic Honda? sounds a bit of an oxymoron..
just because Honda overprices the value of the engine and transmission does not make it exotic, when, in fact, the Honda Accord also gets the option of the same engine and transmission as the NSX. Does that make the Accord exotic as well? hypothetically speaking, that would be like General Motors stating that any of their vehicles that carry the Vortec engine are more exotic than say, a Ford Focus
dmansc88 3 years ago
the reason the price of the 3.0 VTEC, with accompanying transmission, is so high is because of reliability not because it sounds more exotic than a Toyota 4 cylinder
dmansc88 3 years ago
reliability? No because its so much better.
getdrunk1990 3 years ago
...sike
dmansc88 3 years ago
lotus elise has to be my dream car!
Antares099 3 years ago 4
quote ^^ i love elise
blackguardunlimeted 3 years ago
Dream car? Their cheep. Go buy it.
getdrunk1990 3 years ago
if you close your eyes, you can just imagine some bloke cutting a lot of grass with that motor
44pullups 3 years ago
The Celica with the same Yamaha engine sounds nicer though I think
averagejimmy 3 years ago
i think it is a toyota engine since 2006 or 05...
Mocelet 3 years ago
yeah toyota power =)
Mocelet 3 years ago
sounds so fucking great!!!!!! im getting mine in a week but in black
ledzeppelinisthebest 3 years ago 2
is it just me or do these cars sound like shit.
sounds like my old honda civic hatchback i use to drive as a kid?
cybertrader69 3 years ago
Sounds good but for some reason it sounds just a little bit like a volkswagon but i still love the car
gibsonbaby131 3 years ago
Are these the stock elise tail lights??I really want to buy them.Do you know where can i find them..The led ones...
Vince15t 3 years ago 2
I will make Rotary Lotus. It be very nice when I do it.. yes
alv4426 3 years ago
i love my lotus exige, its so badass
DudeFuckMe 3 years ago
Its the toyotal celica GTS 1.8L vvtli engine. They should've put a b18c in there instead. Silly lotus...
alllownogo 3 years ago
i guess they trust toyota more as toyota is the biggest car manfacturing company in the world...i'm just guessing..hehe
andrew88ng 3 years ago 3
Well I guess Toyota trusts YAMAHA because thats who really built it and designed it from the ground up. hehe.
And knowing from experience, this engine is very hard to keep in lift and post good track times. And a honda (b18c or k-series is a lot easier to keep in the high rpm power band)
And thank you for keeping the exhaust stock. I agree with f0rdman a loud buzzing aftermarket system totally ruins this nimble exotic little car.
alllownogo 3 years ago
agreed, a vtec would sound so much better in that
electric13blue 3 years ago
It would if you like shit.
AsianMorpheus 3 years ago
sound but thats about it
msheedy1 3 years ago
it's got vvtl-i. it'll do just fine. =]
ronsoloplz 3 years ago
i like the way it sounds stock best. with less constrictive mufflers it's too loud for it's own good.. sounds like a honda. Other than it's bland sound, it's a very quick and aesthetically pleasing car.
f0rdman 4 years ago 3
No, it is not 2stroke. I dont think any car has a 2stroke.
jeffgooloolie 4 years ago
Not anymore, there used to be some.
72duster 4 years ago
Well of course there used to be 2 stroke cars. In natural aspiration.. 2 stroke engines make more power than a 4 stroke, not as much low end torque but much more higher end hp. I remember they were very common in the motorcycles because of the reason above.
Triple88a 3 years ago
is this a two strock engine car?
evildeath3ever 4 years ago
Why the hell would it be a two stroke?
kylesaenz90 4 years ago 3
best sounding elise i've heard
kylesaenz90 4 years ago
and its a toyota motor
terrier126 4 years ago
i love this car ;)
azzerg0th 4 years ago
Lotus FTW? I think so.
ShortySIG552 4 years ago
nice
patsfan4ever09 4 years ago