Oh really? Is that why you couldn't even exegete 1st Corinthians 8:6? I mean, to be fair you don't need to be a Christian to read basic English, but you simply disregard context and grossly misunderstand basic Christian beliefs. You've expressed it yourself, the "reason" you left "Christianity" was due to the social issues of the Church. Not theology, scripture, or even spiritually.
Wrong again, I said I left christianity for both its foolish theology and its lack of benefit in social issues. 1 corinthians is clear, there is only One God, THE FATHER. Jesus is not the father, Being Lord doesnt make you God, there were many people with the title of lord. I proved that with Luke 2:22 where jesus was brought and presented to the Lord( Kyrios) same word used in 1Cor 8:6. What you guys do is twist clear things with your false man made doctrine, regardless of what the text says.
Wrong again, lol. This is why Dr James said that you destroy the Greek language - you interpret/translate a word based on the context. World, "cosmos" can be used many different ways but means different things due to the context. God Bless & cya around!
LOL, your wrong again. James white said Kyrios was only used for LORD GOD, and yet in Luke 2:22 jesus is presented to Kyrios. So if he is right, then who is this other LORD GOD(KYRIOS) that jesus is being presented to if he is the only LORD( Kyrios)????? So as you see, your silly man ,made gets you caught in a contradiction that you cant get away from. the context is clear, I dont need your false doctrine to try and explain whats apparent away. Na, ya wont see me around. May Allah guide you!
Mr.IslamAnswersBack said: I showed you where he admitted that I didn't say that swma only means a living body...so why you still going on about it...you know why everybody? Because he has nothing else".
This is quite vacuous to anyone who actually saw how you presented the argument in the debate. This is just an attempt to save face here. If you admit that you never meant swma only means living body then your argument loses all its force and makes you guilty of seriously misleading the audience
Hos 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and NOT MAN; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
ah i feel sorry for these so called dr's,they are so bloody rich that caving to the truth will stop thier million dollar salary which they con out of thier congregation
the apologists changed the argument to "its told by different people so it has to be different" now you see the problem with the second argument a God inspired book will not get the most important part of a story so contradictory so now we come to the final part of the argument which james white likes to give which is " IF YOU DONT KNOW KOINE GREEK YOU DO NOT NOW THE BIBLE"
lol you will never persuade the die hard christian evangelicals. They will keep on repeating the same answers. Have you noticed how they are changing thier arguments or how thier arguments are evolving to cover the gross contradictions. 1) first it was the complete no contradiction word of God 2) when people started reading the Bible and found great contradictions especially in the ressurrection narrative ( which apparently to paul is the cornerstone of christian belief )
WOW. You bring up σωμα & πτωμα, and then when you're refuted, it suddenly doesn't matter anymore, so you drop it. And your little act at the end with you're fake laugh made you look stupid.
No idiot, I was'nt refuted, I gave ample proof that Soma was more commonly used for a living body in all of the previous videos so no yeah its time to drop it. And the little act at the end was copying James White when he did his stupid laugh, yet We have more to really laugh at while you believe your God is a Palestinian Jew. Your the ones looking stupid, you ignorant James White groupie.
And further more It was James White who brung it up then admitted I didnt say Soma only means a living a body, so then why the hell is he making an issue of it then. But I see you totally glossed over that huh?! Yeah, thought so, go back to the James White groupie fan club and stay there!!
And another thing, you James White groupie. I see you also ignore the FACT that he still does'nt refute my other point about the sign of Jonas. So nothing was refuted.
1. You commit the common fallacy of assuming that if a word is commonly used in W,X, and Y, then it must mean that in Z. This ignores a basic principle of lexical interpretation; that is, how a word is used in context. Of course, Dr. White, PWitness, and Jpangyarihan showed you that σωμα and πτωμα's semantic domain or range of meaning overlaps (8.1, Louw & Nida; 1a, BDAG). Therefore, σωμα doesn't only mean living body & for you to admit such would render both Baigent's and your argument void.
2. You HAD NO POINT about the Sign of Jonas. In an effort to look like you made one, you read the beginning part of Matt. 12:40, while seemingly ignoring the rest of the clause, and tried to draw a make-believe parallel between Jonah's state or condition in the belly and Jesus' state or condition in the earth. Sam Shamoun is actually the one that brought up a statement by Jesus that parallels the Sign of Jonah one (and I'll bring it up here so that you'll see how bad your argument really is).
John 3:14 - και καθως (literally, "and just as") Μωυσης υψωσεν τον οφιν...ουτως υψωθηναι δει τον υιον του ανθρωπου. "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up." If you want to make a parallel between Jonah's state in the belly and Jesus' state in the earth, then what's stopping you from drawing a parallel between the state of the brass serpent on the pole and Jesus on the Cross?
4. I don't see what's so funny about God entering into His own creation. If He has the ability and chooses to do so, why would it be a laughing matter? Again, you're just making yourself look stupid. You've been refuted, and can't bear the shame, so you start making non-arguments (e.g. your stuff on Acts 5:30). BTW, if I am a Dr. White groupie, then you have quite a following of groupies yourself.
Its funny, because over and over the Torah and Hebrew scriptures drove home the point that GOD IS NOT A MAN . Yet the dummy come lately christians now claim God went and did the exact opposite of which He spoke against and became a Palestinian Jew. And then people who claim to be of high knowledge actually believe their God is a White man , or a palestinian Jew. I mean come on, how can such people be taken serious.?
Oh please, the Sign of Jonas is where much of the arugement rest. You nor him can answer it so you want to say it was no point, but its a very strong point.
Once more, I NEVER SAID SOMA ONLY MEANS ANYTHING!!!! AND James White clearly changed his position and admitted after he was proven wrong on his acusation that I never said soma only means living body. So again, what the hell are you idiots still arguing about?????!!!
nice to c u again bro, i agree with u on this issue, i mean who cares about swma and wat it means(dead or alive it's not the issue) it still doesnt affect ur point at all.
christians are ignorant, brother
consceincePride 1 year ago
speak the truth brother. take the truth and smash it against falsehood. falsehood will perish
ranger1360 3 years ago
wow you are really unprofessional
auron5793 3 years ago
no he's not, look at his other videos and debates, he references very well and debates intellegently, unlike your heros such as investigateislam
Arab7Playa 3 years ago
my heros? lol ok
oh and i meant his behavior on this video wasn't unprofessional, I made no reference to his other videos
but it is pointless to argue about something such as religion, if you're Islam you'll probably always be Islam, and the same goes for Christians.
auron5793 3 years ago
no your wrong, the brother in the video is an Ex christian, and now he's a Muslim....so people can change
Arab7Playa 3 years ago
"An Ex Christian"??? LOL, Shahid Lewis knows nothing of the Christian faith.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
I know enough to prove it false and wrong. LOL
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
Oh really? Is that why you couldn't even exegete 1st Corinthians 8:6? I mean, to be fair you don't need to be a Christian to read basic English, but you simply disregard context and grossly misunderstand basic Christian beliefs. You've expressed it yourself, the "reason" you left "Christianity" was due to the social issues of the Church. Not theology, scripture, or even spiritually.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
Wrong again, I said I left christianity for both its foolish theology and its lack of benefit in social issues. 1 corinthians is clear, there is only One God, THE FATHER. Jesus is not the father, Being Lord doesnt make you God, there were many people with the title of lord. I proved that with Luke 2:22 where jesus was brought and presented to the Lord( Kyrios) same word used in 1Cor 8:6. What you guys do is twist clear things with your false man made doctrine, regardless of what the text says.
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
Wrong again, lol. This is why Dr James said that you destroy the Greek language - you interpret/translate a word based on the context. World, "cosmos" can be used many different ways but means different things due to the context. God Bless & cya around!
Juliocyp 3 years ago
LOL, your wrong again. James white said Kyrios was only used for LORD GOD, and yet in Luke 2:22 jesus is presented to Kyrios. So if he is right, then who is this other LORD GOD(KYRIOS) that jesus is being presented to if he is the only LORD( Kyrios)????? So as you see, your silly man ,made gets you caught in a contradiction that you cant get away from. the context is clear, I dont need your false doctrine to try and explain whats apparent away. Na, ya wont see me around. May Allah guide you!
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
I love how you reply to people when debating them in comments. XD. There's a ghetto feel to your words. Heehee.
telur2606 3 years ago
Mr.IslamAnswersBack said: I showed you where he admitted that I didn't say that swma only means a living body...so why you still going on about it...you know why everybody? Because he has nothing else".
This is quite vacuous to anyone who actually saw how you presented the argument in the debate. This is just an attempt to save face here. If you admit that you never meant swma only means living body then your argument loses all its force and makes you guilty of seriously misleading the audience
Christianjr4 3 years ago
lol funny video ma sha Allah Mr Islam, truth has come and falsehood is bound to perish.
May Allah guide those people. They have no idea what they are upon. Deaf, dumb and blind they will not see the way except who Allah guides.
muslimalways 3 years ago
God is not a man and he doesn't change.
Hos 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and NOT MAN; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
hilarious brother, and welcome back :)
heidi1981work 3 years ago
ah i feel sorry for these so called dr's,they are so bloody rich that caving to the truth will stop thier million dollar salary which they con out of thier congregation
zidane786 3 years ago
the apologists changed the argument to "its told by different people so it has to be different" now you see the problem with the second argument a God inspired book will not get the most important part of a story so contradictory so now we come to the final part of the argument which james white likes to give which is " IF YOU DONT KNOW KOINE GREEK YOU DO NOT NOW THE BIBLE"
zidane786 3 years ago
lol you will never persuade the die hard christian evangelicals. They will keep on repeating the same answers. Have you noticed how they are changing thier arguments or how thier arguments are evolving to cover the gross contradictions. 1) first it was the complete no contradiction word of God 2) when people started reading the Bible and found great contradictions especially in the ressurrection narrative ( which apparently to paul is the cornerstone of christian belief )
zidane786 3 years ago
WOW. You bring up σωμα & πτωμα, and then when you're refuted, it suddenly doesn't matter anymore, so you drop it. And your little act at the end with you're fake laugh made you look stupid.
newp05 3 years ago
No idiot, I was'nt refuted, I gave ample proof that Soma was more commonly used for a living body in all of the previous videos so no yeah its time to drop it. And the little act at the end was copying James White when he did his stupid laugh, yet We have more to really laugh at while you believe your God is a Palestinian Jew. Your the ones looking stupid, you ignorant James White groupie.
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
And further more It was James White who brung it up then admitted I didnt say Soma only means a living a body, so then why the hell is he making an issue of it then. But I see you totally glossed over that huh?! Yeah, thought so, go back to the James White groupie fan club and stay there!!
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
And another thing, you James White groupie. I see you also ignore the FACT that he still does'nt refute my other point about the sign of Jonas. So nothing was refuted.
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
1. You commit the common fallacy of assuming that if a word is commonly used in W,X, and Y, then it must mean that in Z. This ignores a basic principle of lexical interpretation; that is, how a word is used in context. Of course, Dr. White, PWitness, and Jpangyarihan showed you that σωμα and πτωμα's semantic domain or range of meaning overlaps (8.1, Louw & Nida; 1a, BDAG). Therefore, σωμα doesn't only mean living body & for you to admit such would render both Baigent's and your argument void.
newp05 3 years ago
2. You HAD NO POINT about the Sign of Jonas. In an effort to look like you made one, you read the beginning part of Matt. 12:40, while seemingly ignoring the rest of the clause, and tried to draw a make-believe parallel between Jonah's state or condition in the belly and Jesus' state or condition in the earth. Sam Shamoun is actually the one that brought up a statement by Jesus that parallels the Sign of Jonah one (and I'll bring it up here so that you'll see how bad your argument really is).
newp05 3 years ago
John 3:14 - και καθως (literally, "and just as") Μωυσης υψωσεν τον οφιν...ουτως υψωθηναι δει τον υιον του ανθρωπου. "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up." If you want to make a parallel between Jonah's state in the belly and Jesus' state in the earth, then what's stopping you from drawing a parallel between the state of the brass serpent on the pole and Jesus on the Cross?
newp05 3 years ago
4. I don't see what's so funny about God entering into His own creation. If He has the ability and chooses to do so, why would it be a laughing matter? Again, you're just making yourself look stupid. You've been refuted, and can't bear the shame, so you start making non-arguments (e.g. your stuff on Acts 5:30). BTW, if I am a Dr. White groupie, then you have quite a following of groupies yourself.
newp05 3 years ago
Its funny, because over and over the Torah and Hebrew scriptures drove home the point that GOD IS NOT A MAN . Yet the dummy come lately christians now claim God went and did the exact opposite of which He spoke against and became a Palestinian Jew. And then people who claim to be of high knowledge actually believe their God is a White man , or a palestinian Jew. I mean come on, how can such people be taken serious.?
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
What???? This has nothing to do with the issue, Man, take a hike with that silly irrelevant arguement. Its clear you have nothing.
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
Oh please, the Sign of Jonas is where much of the arugement rest. You nor him can answer it so you want to say it was no point, but its a very strong point.
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
Once more, I NEVER SAID SOMA ONLY MEANS ANYTHING!!!! AND James White clearly changed his position and admitted after he was proven wrong on his acusation that I never said soma only means living body. So again, what the hell are you idiots still arguing about?????!!!
MrIslamAnswersback 3 years ago
just because you know how to use the greek alphabets doesnt make you right. do you have to copy eveything he says, it makes you look stupid
shariotoflove 2 years ago
nice to c u again bro, i agree with u on this issue, i mean who cares about swma and wat it means(dead or alive it's not the issue) it still doesnt affect ur point at all.
keep up the good work.
almays88 3 years ago
welcome back Brother. Jazak Allahu Khair.
Keep it Insha Allah
mounir1426 3 years ago
asalam u alikum akhi!
you have won the debate mate!!!
and that was funny "god is a circumcised jew"
i like to use the word "god's mini-me".
may be i shouldnt use this, but i mean not disrespect to my jesus christ and his Lord.
Muslim Here!!
antichristawakens 3 years ago
assalamu alaikum akhee,
inshallah i'm going to post a video regarding Bible corruption with missing verses in the Bible
qwertyfshag 3 years ago
LOOOL
Excellent Bro Shadid!
WorkingForPeace 3 years ago
Born 1st time, but lose faith due to contradictions in the Bible, and the unbelievable "GOOD FRIDAY MYTH",
That GOD, the EVERLIVING, THE INFINATE was killed,by his creation by a Spear, and a wooden cross!!
Then a MIRACLE happens,
And they are "Born Again IDIOTS".
DivineLove247 3 years ago
wellcome back brother you have been way for a long time
its good to see you again
shazad418 3 years ago
welcome back MrIslamAnswersback.
Kite207 3 years ago
Clearly the truth hurled against falsehood knocked out his brain. How else you suppose a brainless man to behave? Keep it up, brother. Wa'salaam!
prplxty 3 years ago
LMAO @ "god was incarnated in a Palestinian Jew". Keep up the good work bro, insha'Allah!
islamiclife 3 years ago
At the beginning I thought that James White was a smart man, but with time, watching his videos, his true face appeared.
He is like all other born again, he plays the master of Greek language, trying to prove that black means white, in Greek!
1MoreMuslim 3 years ago
masterful
imadhurata 3 years ago
LOL @ "your god is a palestinian Jew" HAHAHAHA! OMG awesome lol
drgonboyx 3 years ago 6
cant wait to watch this! i enjoy watching your excellent vids
drgonboyx 3 years ago