honda needs to put their diesel technology into a 1.5 civic engine. they could make it with a little more h.p. then my 93 civic with twice the torque. I get 49 mpg that diesel would probably get close to 100 mpg
hybrids are so expensive that it takes years to turn a profit at the gas pump that is why china and other countries that are doing so well right now have tiny diesel cars
You guys are talking about two different things. The Accord just uses the hybrid technology to boost acceleration. The Prius actually uses the technology to reduce gas use. So that's the kind of hybrid you get if you care about saving money and saving the world. Don't slam all hybrids because of one that's not making the greenest use of the technology.
Also, by the way, the Prius I bought was way overpriced. The Ford Escape Hybrid is a better, more durable car (and much cheaper). It doesn't get as much mileage, but it is the best SUV around.
I agree. I have a Prius hybrid and a Ford Escape Hybrid. The Prius gets the best gas mileage. I felt like the Ford Escape Hybrid was the best SUV I could get. I actually feel like the Ford Escape Hybrid is the most comfortable. Plus, it has more space! I just wish that both of these hybrids had stronger electric motors!
Hybrids are just a buzz word. With the amount of driving increasing, not only in American but in almost every other country in the world, the introduction of these new hybrid cars won't come close to having a serious impact. In other words the hybrid movement will do almost nothing to change the environment. The people who own car companies are fucking idiots who only want your money and they will do whatever it takes to get it including completely manipulating you into wanting a hybrid.
GS 450h is fast and will do it all and every one love going fast. the GS 450h it just 5.55 sec to 60mph and the GS 460 gets to 60mph in 5.22 sec it you buy some tires for the GS 450h and some CF for it then you will be faster then the GS 460 will buy a GS 450h any day over any other GS out there today. but when they come out with the GS-F,and if the IS-F is any to show us how good the F can be then i Will get the GS-F over the GS 450h
i drive a prius and it has some kick to it... i average around 48-50mpg (not even kidding)
so if you are looking for a hybrid look at a prius, and yes you can push that shit over 100mph, i don't know max, i was too much of a pussy to test it.
The fact that someone goes for a v6 means that they don't want an underpowered car, but they still want better gas mileage and less pollution. Leather? What does leather have to do with it. Leather it has nothing to do with the hybrid statement.
BTW, I just installed a Water4Gas (Hydrogen-On-Demand) system on my car for under $100 bucks and have increased its economy by about 50%. The Internal Combustion engine were initally designed to run on Hydrogen anyway.
Also you can convert a small car to full-electric for under $7,000 that will give you about 100 to 150 miles per charge, enough for 95% of us to get to work and back, and save your petrol car for the week-end.
viva Vivaelrealismo, Swervon makes a good point too about the VW Lupo, and as for Markrua4, don't write his comment off just because it is unpopular. Who is melting the ice-caps on Mars? It's not SUV's.
Hybrids are a con, full electric is achievable, even if the batteries aren't quite good enough yet why not pull up at a 'battery station' and exchange a dead battery for a charged one, like they do with gas bottles for your BBQ.
I tend to agree with Chris (the nerd with glasses), fuel economy is fuel economy, too many Americans (like Brian, the nerd in the brown jacket)are more about talk and image then action (except in the case of international diplomacy, then it's all action no talk)
Hollywood has spread to real life, where people can pretend to be something other than opportunistic scum and get away with it.
I didn't vote for Obama, but I have no problems understanding the word "change."
Change, at least to me, means getting rid of all the posers and replacing them with people who are interested in doing their jobs and getting real results.
I'm tired of all the arguing over matters that have already been figured out.
people that are bashing for hybrids should look to themselves... at least some people in this freakin world are trying to solve a problem that we all face together...
in lies the prob take the same dinky engine and stick it in a car that is not filled with all the extra weight from the hybrid drive system and batteries, there is a reason the 1 liter VW Lupo get 70 mpg in town....guess what, no hybrid system
I thought it was a good debate. Obviously a lot of the parts seemed staged, but I think both men made valid points. The United State's energy crisis is a difficult problem to deal with, and its good to know that that at least the media is paying attention to it.
are you kidding me? WHy don't you ope yours eyes and stop acted so damn provincial. First of all, how is it "gay". Its a car. Second of all what's wrong with wanted to help the environment? This is your earth too. And i don't think that 9/11 was planned by the government.
because i only see fags driving these kinds of cars, hence the name, "gay car", doesnt anyone know how every thousand years or so the earth's magnetic feild changes, and wow it maybe in the process of doing so, so changing the cars isnt gonna stop "global warming" and even that is just a theory...
hows that, u cant come up with a better responce??? wow stop beleiving the stuff u hear on tv, and face reality... hybrids are the stupidest thing since backstreet boys...
Although not an engineer, I know no reason why a hybrid wouldn't ordinarily use less gas and emit less CO2 than a car identical in other respects but not a hybrid. Ultimately, hybrids should not only improve, but also represent a step toward an all-electric vehicle. I do agree with Chris that those desiring to reduce CO2 emissions and save on gasoline should do better with the less expensive hybrids - my Honda Civic Hybrid approaches 60 mpg on the highway. The tax credit is an added bonus.
We should look to Holland and ride bicycles. No, that might be a healthy alternative and would give no reason to go to war, be fat and obnoxious. My bicycle is better than yours! LOL.
Guy in the glasses is right. The point is to burn less gas. Period. If you want to burn less gas get the smaller engine. Don't fool yourself by stuffing some V6 or V8 into a mid-sized vehicle and then slapping a "hybrid" label on it. If gas prices were $10 a gallon do you think anyone would care what the label on their car said? Hell no, they'd be looking to burn the least amount humanly possible. As painful as it is to think about, more tax on gas would reduce consumption more than any label.
That is the point...to those that really can't afford gasoline. But the people who can afford these lux cars don't really have much problem paying gas prices, not now anyways. So to them it is being able to say 'i have a hybrid, therefore i must care about the environment'. people who buy lux cars do so as a statement to others...why should the hybrid label be any different?
You have made a very keen observation. However, the truth is that a large segment of the car buying public likes making statements and does not want to give up powerful engines. Hybrids provide both solutions: image for the image-conscious and healthier power for the power-hungry. All the while, these people finance hybrids, economies of scale take over, and these eco-friendly technologies filter down to less-expensive autos we all can afford to buy and realistically own.
You have made a very keen observation. However, the truth is that a large segment of the car buying public likes making statements and does not want to give up powerful engines. Hybrids provide both solutions: image for the image-conscious and healthier power for the power-hungry. All the while, these people finance hybrids, economies of scale take over, and these eco-friendly technologies filter down to less-expensive autos we all can afford to buy and realistically own.
i agree with scotpens, unless they start producing performance cars using the massive advantage of instant max torque in electric motors and producing vehicles with the option of manual transmitions i would never buy one.
i see how people just look at their wallet and think about long term at the gas pump. but not looking on the fine prints and what really matters. as a car guy i wouldnt buy a car that is effient but lacks the joy of driving the car in general. i mean the turbo disel would get a crap load better mpg's but it polutes alot so you would be sacrificing something for something else...i dono.
I own a 2007 Ford Focus that averages about 25 mpg in city driving, which is fine because I rarely put on more than 500 miles a month. The car qualifies under California standards as a PZEV or "Partial Zero Emission Vehicle," which simply means it has a very clean-burning engine. In fact, it's less polluting than some hybrids. I'll NEVER drive a hybrid or a pure electric because they don't have stick shifts. Driving a car with an automatic transmission is BORING!
So it doesn't matter if it's a poor choice because they are making a statement? I think they statement they are making is "I'm an idiot!". They realistically priced hybrid does NOT exist, therefore the invention is just for show, not anything more. I sure hope that eventually it becomes cheaper. Who knows. Maybe they will never be able to do that. I hope they can though.
So it's about being smug and not actually about decreasing emissions or getting us off of dependance on foreign oil. I hope you guys realize that prius' don't start conserving gas unless you use them for eighteen years because of the HUGE number of resources that have to go into making it. The guy in the brown is selling smugness, buy a toyota that gets over 30 mpg and you're doing your part and not just being a smug asswipe (why is his shirt brown?)
MPG is the only rating that matters. If your car gets less then 30MPG which is the break even point for foreign dependence then you are funding people that you shouldn't. What is so sickening is seeing a SUV or Pickup with a Support the Troups Ribbon and they spend enough in gas every week to support a good sized terrorist cell. People are Idiots an that is why it will never change BTW we have already been waiting 20 years for GM but when Toyota took their customers they gave up on the fule cell
Why is the guy on the left so stupid? They attach the electric motor to the v6 because the four cylinder can't charge the battery that runs the electric motor. Diesel is only like 4 dollars a gallon and if you can get twice the amount of miles on as diesel then it would be like 2 gallons of gasoline....you do the math.
In Europe the Audi A4 & BMW3 series diesels (as well as many others) can return over 50 MPG. They have plenty of performance (sub 10s to 60 + 120 mph top end) yet this guy did not even mention diesel as an option, he thought 30 mpg was good! Even my 6 year old beat up Nissan Primera P12 gets over 42 mpg and I drive that hard.
yes but in the United States Diesel is insainly high priced and it is like they said in the vid: we want cars that show conservation and healthy air so with Diesel yes we get the fuel conservation but were is the part were we save the air around us and also he said in the vid we dont like buying forin gas.
its cause greedy rich oil conglomerates relay on the lack of efficiency of American cars so they can drain the middle class then move on to china after America goes into recession cause of foren debt. mostly which is owed to china due to trade deficit. so yes America is a sacrifice.
hybrid is just stupid, it weighs double a gas care,making it much less efficient; and double a pure electric so if youre gonna have a heavy ass car use all that gas engine room for more batteries making the car work all day on pure electricity in the end costing you much less on fuel than gas
not to mention that an pure electric car gets energy from a powerplant that is much more clean burning than a car and also on an electric car nothing can wear out exept the tires. no oil needed :)
Chris is right. Someone who is really serious about conservation should buy the car that actually has better than average fuel economy as opposed to something that pretends to.
That must be why you see so many of those wedge-shaped Prius hybrids here in West Los Angeles. The streets are crawling with those ugly little things. The liberal yuppies who live in Beverly Hills, Brentwood and Pacific Palisades think they're doing something for the environment by driving a Prius, when mainly they're just making themselves feel less guilty.
hybrid is a stupid idea, since it still burns petroleum, with more ancillary bullshit surrounding it. So stop trying to make people believe it's the answer or a viable alternative.
Why should it be stupid if it still burns petroleum? So every petroleum car is stupid?
Where is the logic in that?
It's a great idea, and it is a great alternative. If everyone would drive such a car, the gas prices wouldn't be so high, because our demand would be far less.
In the long run (>20 years) we need other alternative. But for now it's great!
because we have incredible propulsion technologies, including anti-gravity, but those WITH IT would NOT want you to know about it. SO here we are with this minstrel show about using both gas and electric... SKIP THE FUCKIN GAS PART and I'll be impressed.
Oh, that's right, it was reverse-engineered from that flying saucer that crashed at Roswell! Or did scientists from the future travel back in time and give the secret of anti-gravity propulsion to L. Ron Hubbard?
you're really stupid. a) you believe what you're TOLD lol b) you honestly think that consumer's have unrestricted access to all propulsion technologies ever created. Because no one would want to keep it secret for war, black ops and military purposes. oh no, let the public know all of our technologies.... Ya dude, even by speculative common sense standards, youre really stupid.
In Europe we already have cars that can do 50, 60 or 70 miles per gallon and just have a normal diesel engine. Hybrids are hypocritical. Anyway, Honda has now released the hydrogen FCX Clarity which has zero emissions. America just doesn't get stuff Europe and Japan has been doing for years. By the way, Japanese cars are different over here. See the dancing drunkard on my channel.
that's because america is controlled by scum who don't want anything that they aren't controlling or anything that won't put money in their pocket to happen.
that's why nobody in america has patented a car that needs little to no gasoline.
Sounds all good and well but does not touch the masses who are creating carbon footprins at every-increasing levels. If we do not work on our foundations - on all levels, we will all fall anyway. Whether we believe in environmental issues or not, they are real. What is our real technological ability to work for the future? Aren't we a CAN DO Nation? Smart and less waste for the masses. Glitz for the rich!
The problem with hydrogen is where they get it from either corn or sugar cane and which takes electricity which if its not clean still pollutes. So you're just substituting one pollutant for another. The best way is pure electric power from wind or water or nuclear and fully electric cars and thats pretty much it.
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H20 is water, right? the H is hydrogen, comes from water, the thing is that if u could extract hydrogen from water, you would have a car just running on water, but there are other problems that come to that
Unfortunately water has low energy as atoms go, if you burn Hydrogen and oxygen it will yield heat and water.
This differs from how other things burn if you burn wood it doesn't reform into a log thats because in its chemical state it had chemical energy which means its parts wanted to break apart they just needed a little something to do it, but you cant heat up water and burn it because the h2o have no reason to want to break, they have little chemical energy.
You can use an electric current to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen. It's called electrolysis, and we all probably remember something about it from high school science classes. The problem is, the electricity has to be generated somewhere, and that's usually by burning coal, oil or natural gas. There's some loss and waste with each stage of energy conversion. Bottom line: You can't get something for nothing.
car company's are just been fucking pussy's. If they wana make energy efficient cars, they could just make fully electric cars. At the the moment it just seems like they're treading water untill they're told its ok for them to build them.
FUCK HYBRID, GO FULL ELECTRIC YOU FUCKING OIL TYCOON DICKS.
The average person drives an average of 30 miles per day. That's WAY less than the range of a fully electric car. These cars were already invented but pulled from the market because of BUSH and all his greedy fucking oil butt buddies.
It wasn't Bush, it was a little thing called the free market. GM had a limited pilot program with its EV-1 electric vehicle, which could only be leased, not purchased. There wasn't enough consumer demand to justify commitment to full production.
Hybrid makes sense for congested city driving, provided there is no need for A/C or heat.
If you have a highway commute with good overall traffic flow, a VW diesel is the best overall for most drivers.
The consumer must appreciate that the automakers must sell a number of very good MPG cars so that the high profit sales of the gas guzzlers doesn't mess up their CAFE ratings.
Toyota loves to sell Prius at a loss, it means they can still sell big profit Sequoia / Tundra 4WD pain free.
I would love to see a car that was diesel/bio, electric, plug in, solar.What about a plug in electric car that has a fast release for the battery pack so when you get low on power on long trips you pull into the station and swap batteries then proceed on. We try our best to make all our trips together in the prius to save fuel.We stock extras because we say if you run out of x it can cost us y in fuel. So every time we go to store we get bread and have one of x in use we have another in stock.
I own a prius the MPG is not as stated on the sticker we average about 42 or so depending on who drives we do mostly city driving. There are so many variables that determine your mileage, run the AC, engine temp, hard acceleration, tire pressure, speeds, if you draft other vehicles all determines MPG. We can get better MPG at 70 than at 62 if we get a truck to break the wind. When you have a tailgater it is as if he is stealing your fuel.
no. when you have a tailgater you both get better fuel economy. that is the whole point of drafting in nascar, it makes both cars go faster because the together the cars are more aerodynamic.
Hybrids send a wrong message to the market. They benefit from traffic jams and thats not the motivation for a car. Car manufacturers like Volkswagen (Audi) have demonstrated time and again that clean burning petrol, and turbo-diesel engines are very efficient and minimal polluting. The diesel in-fact gives more MPG than the hybrids. Toyota needs to rethink its principles.
Conserve? Do any of you (or the hosts) understand that we are polluting more with hybrids than with standard gasoline vehicles? It's called calculating all variables. Be informed: to truly conserve, buy a vehicle with the least amount of polution as a result of a its production, use (use = gas purchases), maintanance, and disposal. These are just the major variables (with many minors).
A true environmentist is an honest one, as well. Buy a hummer. Do the research and be amazed.
these guys are both idiots, neither of them have a solid argument. i came to this video hoping to help me decide if i wanted a hybrid or not and i just got even more confused. the guy on the left doesn't realize that the lexus hybrids are targeted at people who want to do their bit to save the environment but don't want to give up the speed of their expensive cars for the slowness of something like a prius.
Does anyone know how much and what types of polution are produced during the production of the batteries found in hybrid vehicles? It's been something I have the trying to research, but finding the facts has proven to be diffucult and time consuming.
I am in the process of determining which new car I am going to buy. I currently drive an Acura MDX and feel I need an SUV to haul my kid and "stuff". I currently get 18 mpg. I want to purchase another SUV but want to get better gas mileage; not because I can't afford to pay more for gas but because I want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. So what's wrong with jumping on the "stop-gap measure" bandwagon? I am looking at buying the Lexus RX400h. The
Toyota directly employed around 34,675 people in the US, invested $15.5 B, produced 1.2 M vehicles using US and foreign auto parts, sold 2.54 million vehicles, and donated $340M to nonprofits. It has in total 10 plants, $2.9B per year payroll, purchased $28B in parts and supplies from 30 states. It created around 386,000 jobs in the United States as result of Toyota's spending and demand from suppliers. It celebrated its 50th year anniversary in the United States in 2007.
actually there was a study a few years ago. Toyota had more parts and cars made in the US than GM, % wise. Toyota employed so many people in the US that is not even considered Japanese anymore.
You stated that fuel cells are the future, that seems a bit naive at this point. Electric vehicles are becoming more practical with improved battery technology. It takes electricity to make hydrogen for fuel cells, so if you have good batteries then who needs fuel cells?
As far as this debate you both make good points, but consider that the automakers have an interest in selling more car, which gives the hybrid an advantage. Also, hybrids add weight to cars, so make less sense in small cars.
Basically Brian (guy in tan) is saying the American public is stupid so, if the automakers slap a "hybrid" badge on it people are thinking they're doing the enviroment a favor while they're still using a V6....awesome. I think Diesel is a much better option more fuel efficienct that gas and yet cheaper than a hybrid. They can be made to burn very clean also.
Luxury hybrids = sham. If you really cared, get the car you NEED that is the most efficient, not the car you WANT that is less damaging.
Hybrids are about changing habits, not adapting cars to what a consumer thinks she wants. If a consumer thinks she needs a 2 ton SUV to drive 40 miles to work, the hybrid ought to show her that she never needed the SUV in the first place.
Luxury hybrids are a novel solution to a problem that should never have become such a problem in the first place.
When you take into account the transportation, manufacturing, and mining of the nickel for the Toyota Prius batteries, it is more environmentally unfriendly than a H2. If you want to help with foreign oil dependence and CO2 emissions, just get a car that gets 30+ mpg and be done with it.
If you don't believe me look it up. Any Toyota with a battery is the worse thing you could buy if you want to help.
Nickel is very abundant in the earth's crust-bonus. My Toyota Camary gets 51 mpg around town and looks great. The batteries when done go back to Toyota to be recycled. I am doing my part, when will you start? H2 is more than 15 years away, hmmmm, what to do in the meantime?
The nickel mine in Northern Canada where they get the nickel for Toyota batteries puts out so much waste that there is a 5 mile "dead zone" around it. So dead in fact that NASA uses it to test lunar rovers. Then, the nickel has to be shipped to Germany for conversion to foam, then to China where the batteries are assembled, then Japan to be put into the vehicle. Sorry, but your hybrid is much less friendly than my Nissan Sentra that gets 37mpg.
Google "prius battery dead zone" and READ, then buy
We are in the boat we are in because America has failed to stand up to the tyrants on our shores and chose to run to the suburbs in turn we have to get all the Arabs involved and now we have street hoodlums and international ones to boot.
If people would stand up to the street hoodies and used their time to raise their children rather than spend their time traveling to and from work they would have less hoodies on the streets. True you have to be a witness that in turn means you have to defend your self which means firearms would have to be carried by more responsible citizens.
To the point where fuel cost cuts into maintence cost in a downward spiraling tailspin that places all you have in jeopardy. The root of all this is in the very basis of what this country was founded upon. Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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chilsont 8 months ago
honda needs to put their diesel technology into a 1.5 civic engine. they could make it with a little more h.p. then my 93 civic with twice the torque. I get 49 mpg that diesel would probably get close to 100 mpg
hobieslug45 1 year ago
hybrids are so expensive that it takes years to turn a profit at the gas pump that is why china and other countries that are doing so well right now have tiny diesel cars
ate3333 3 years ago
@ate3333 this statement is just plain logic. who the hell is going to listen to that
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maliximojo 4 years ago
You guys are talking about two different things. The Accord just uses the hybrid technology to boost acceleration. The Prius actually uses the technology to reduce gas use. So that's the kind of hybrid you get if you care about saving money and saving the world. Don't slam all hybrids because of one that's not making the greenest use of the technology.
JoshRachlis 4 years ago 2
Also, by the way, the Prius I bought was way overpriced. The Ford Escape Hybrid is a better, more durable car (and much cheaper). It doesn't get as much mileage, but it is the best SUV around.
zenflare 4 years ago
I agree. I have a Prius hybrid and a Ford Escape Hybrid. The Prius gets the best gas mileage. I felt like the Ford Escape Hybrid was the best SUV I could get. I actually feel like the Ford Escape Hybrid is the most comfortable. Plus, it has more space! I just wish that both of these hybrids had stronger electric motors!
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ninkovicn 4 years ago
Hybrids are just a buzz word. With the amount of driving increasing, not only in American but in almost every other country in the world, the introduction of these new hybrid cars won't come close to having a serious impact. In other words the hybrid movement will do almost nothing to change the environment. The people who own car companies are fucking idiots who only want your money and they will do whatever it takes to get it including completely manipulating you into wanting a hybrid.
dudetheonly 4 years ago
Not to hybrid. Why get a luxury car with a hybrid motor if it don't save money and poor emissions (which is a sign of poor fuel efficiency)
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parkgunsu 4 years ago
brian is stupid
M3mPHiS 4 years ago
GS 450h is fast and will do it all and every one love going fast. the GS 450h it just 5.55 sec to 60mph and the GS 460 gets to 60mph in 5.22 sec it you buy some tires for the GS 450h and some CF for it then you will be faster then the GS 460 will buy a GS 450h any day over any other GS out there today. but when they come out with the GS-F,and if the IS-F is any to show us how good the F can be then i Will get the GS-F over the GS 450h
navarretejason1986 4 years ago
i drive a prius and it has some kick to it... i average around 48-50mpg (not even kidding)
so if you are looking for a hybrid look at a prius, and yes you can push that shit over 100mph, i don't know max, i was too much of a pussy to test it.
learn2die101 4 years ago
The fact that someone goes for a v6 means that they don't want an underpowered car, but they still want better gas mileage and less pollution. Leather? What does leather have to do with it. Leather it has nothing to do with the hybrid statement.
eyeblack42 4 years ago
brian is retarded, getting a hybrid that doesnt do more miles per gallon than a regular car is pretty pointless...
vofflan 4 years ago
BTW, I just installed a Water4Gas (Hydrogen-On-Demand) system on my car for under $100 bucks and have increased its economy by about 50%. The Internal Combustion engine were initally designed to run on Hydrogen anyway.
Also you can convert a small car to full-electric for under $7,000 that will give you about 100 to 150 miles per charge, enough for 95% of us to get to work and back, and save your petrol car for the week-end.
WatcherAZ 4 years ago
viva Vivaelrealismo, Swervon makes a good point too about the VW Lupo, and as for Markrua4, don't write his comment off just because it is unpopular. Who is melting the ice-caps on Mars? It's not SUV's.
Hybrids are a con, full electric is achievable, even if the batteries aren't quite good enough yet why not pull up at a 'battery station' and exchange a dead battery for a charged one, like they do with gas bottles for your BBQ.
WatcherAZ 4 years ago
Hybrids are what they are. They are a bandaid for the problem.
"Real Biofuel" (not to be confused with fakes like palm oil and corn ethanol) and electric are complete solutions that already exist.
I just wish our paper pushers would stop beating the horse and bury it already. The science is ready to rock, we are just procrastinating.
vivaelrealismo 4 years ago
I tend to agree with Chris (the nerd with glasses), fuel economy is fuel economy, too many Americans (like Brian, the nerd in the brown jacket)are more about talk and image then action (except in the case of international diplomacy, then it's all action no talk)
WatcherAZ 4 years ago 2
You're totally right.
Hollywood has spread to real life, where people can pretend to be something other than opportunistic scum and get away with it.
I didn't vote for Obama, but I have no problems understanding the word "change."
Change, at least to me, means getting rid of all the posers and replacing them with people who are interested in doing their jobs and getting real results.
I'm tired of all the arguing over matters that have already been figured out.
vivaelrealismo 4 years ago
people that are bashing for hybrids should look to themselves... at least some people in this freakin world are trying to solve a problem that we all face together...
edo1985 4 years ago
Good video!
BeechSundowner 4 years ago
Not to hybrid. Nothing will replace the power of the internal combustion engine.
aljazeri 4 years ago
""Not to hybrid. Nothing will replace the power of the internal combustion engine.""
A hybrid uses an internal combustion engine. Open your mind up, fool.
vivaelrealismo 4 years ago
in lies the prob take the same dinky engine and stick it in a car that is not filled with all the extra weight from the hybrid drive system and batteries, there is a reason the 1 liter VW Lupo get 70 mpg in town....guess what, no hybrid system
swervon 4 years ago
people who drive hybrids fart a lot.. and close thier eyes when they talk.
elmerspooglue 4 years ago
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kylefetters 4 years ago
I thought it was a good debate. Obviously a lot of the parts seemed staged, but I think both men made valid points. The United State's energy crisis is a difficult problem to deal with, and its good to know that that at least the media is paying attention to it.
RunLikeAnAntelope 4 years ago
hybrids are freaken gay, they are for hippies who also think 9/11 was planed by the government...faggs...
markrua4 4 years ago
are you kidding me? WHy don't you ope yours eyes and stop acted so damn provincial. First of all, how is it "gay". Its a car. Second of all what's wrong with wanted to help the environment? This is your earth too. And i don't think that 9/11 was planned by the government.
d4naa 4 years ago
because i only see fags driving these kinds of cars, hence the name, "gay car", doesnt anyone know how every thousand years or so the earth's magnetic feild changes, and wow it maybe in the process of doing so, so changing the cars isnt gonna stop "global warming" and even that is just a theory...
markrua4 4 years ago
you seriously redefine the word retard!
Abcflc 4 years ago
hows that, u cant come up with a better responce??? wow stop beleiving the stuff u hear on tv, and face reality... hybrids are the stupidest thing since backstreet boys...
markrua4 4 years ago
The thing is, once a video on here gets a certain amount of hits, people come on to plug their own video's in a hope to increater their own views.
I would NEVER do that!
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vx220na 4 years ago
Although not an engineer, I know no reason why a hybrid wouldn't ordinarily use less gas and emit less CO2 than a car identical in other respects but not a hybrid. Ultimately, hybrids should not only improve, but also represent a step toward an all-electric vehicle. I do agree with Chris that those desiring to reduce CO2 emissions and save on gasoline should do better with the less expensive hybrids - my Honda Civic Hybrid approaches 60 mpg on the highway. The tax credit is an added bonus.
grastog1313 4 years ago
fat guy is stupid
Vortes 4 years ago
which one?? jk i don't think either are fat lol
Sharone710 4 years ago
hybrids can save the earth because global warming IS real and we need to start recycling.
candycanes384 4 years ago
We should look to Holland and ride bicycles. No, that might be a healthy alternative and would give no reason to go to war, be fat and obnoxious. My bicycle is better than yours! LOL.
wilfredsnipple 4 years ago
Guy in the glasses is right. The point is to burn less gas. Period. If you want to burn less gas get the smaller engine. Don't fool yourself by stuffing some V6 or V8 into a mid-sized vehicle and then slapping a "hybrid" label on it. If gas prices were $10 a gallon do you think anyone would care what the label on their car said? Hell no, they'd be looking to burn the least amount humanly possible. As painful as it is to think about, more tax on gas would reduce consumption more than any label.
teed7 4 years ago
That is the point...to those that really can't afford gasoline. But the people who can afford these lux cars don't really have much problem paying gas prices, not now anyways. So to them it is being able to say 'i have a hybrid, therefore i must care about the environment'. people who buy lux cars do so as a statement to others...why should the hybrid label be any different?
NELHAOTEC 4 years ago
You have made a very keen observation. However, the truth is that a large segment of the car buying public likes making statements and does not want to give up powerful engines. Hybrids provide both solutions: image for the image-conscious and healthier power for the power-hungry. All the while, these people finance hybrids, economies of scale take over, and these eco-friendly technologies filter down to less-expensive autos we all can afford to buy and realistically own.
americanrajput 4 years ago
You have made a very keen observation. However, the truth is that a large segment of the car buying public likes making statements and does not want to give up powerful engines. Hybrids provide both solutions: image for the image-conscious and healthier power for the power-hungry. All the while, these people finance hybrids, economies of scale take over, and these eco-friendly technologies filter down to less-expensive autos we all can afford to buy and realistically own.
americanrajput 4 years ago
i agree with scotpens, unless they start producing performance cars using the massive advantage of instant max torque in electric motors and producing vehicles with the option of manual transmitions i would never buy one.
ZimiTV 4 years ago
i see how people just look at their wallet and think about long term at the gas pump. but not looking on the fine prints and what really matters. as a car guy i wouldnt buy a car that is effient but lacks the joy of driving the car in general. i mean the turbo disel would get a crap load better mpg's but it polutes alot so you would be sacrificing something for something else...i dono.
jchanlsr 4 years ago
the guy said without the glasses...but what you can say to your neighbor is i own a hybrid and you don't. wow...he's not all there..
zfromm 4 years ago
I own a 2007 Ford Focus that averages about 25 mpg in city driving, which is fine because I rarely put on more than 500 miles a month. The car qualifies under California standards as a PZEV or "Partial Zero Emission Vehicle," which simply means it has a very clean-burning engine. In fact, it's less polluting than some hybrids. I'll NEVER drive a hybrid or a pure electric because they don't have stick shifts. Driving a car with an automatic transmission is BORING!
scotpens 4 years ago
Brian Chee is on crack!
desipenny 4 years ago
gas prices are deliberately fucked with by your elite masters.
luckyvet 4 years ago 2
driving a hybrid is making a statement '' i am gay and nobody likes me''.
hybrids suck
danwill91 4 years ago
And making such a comment is making a statement "I'm too stupid to get it."
pvaz 4 years ago
So it doesn't matter if it's a poor choice because they are making a statement? I think they statement they are making is "I'm an idiot!". They realistically priced hybrid does NOT exist, therefore the invention is just for show, not anything more. I sure hope that eventually it becomes cheaper. Who knows. Maybe they will never be able to do that. I hope they can though.
flyp1001 4 years ago
Lexus makes the LS600h. Who is going to buy that car? SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT. NOT someone tht wants to save fuel.
meatisneat 4 years ago
So it's about being smug and not actually about decreasing emissions or getting us off of dependance on foreign oil. I hope you guys realize that prius' don't start conserving gas unless you use them for eighteen years because of the HUGE number of resources that have to go into making it. The guy in the brown is selling smugness, buy a toyota that gets over 30 mpg and you're doing your part and not just being a smug asswipe (why is his shirt brown?)
Nick2565 4 years ago
The guy in the brown is a tool.
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BeautyBuyNature 4 years ago
MPG is the only rating that matters. If your car gets less then 30MPG which is the break even point for foreign dependence then you are funding people that you shouldn't. What is so sickening is seeing a SUV or Pickup with a Support the Troups Ribbon and they spend enough in gas every week to support a good sized terrorist cell. People are Idiots an that is why it will never change BTW we have already been waiting 20 years for GM but when Toyota took their customers they gave up on the fule cell
zambatoo 4 years ago
I think hybrids are great, but these guys are idiots trying to sound smart.
BlackKingX 4 years ago
"You're driving a Prius, you're making a statement"
Wow. It is as though no amount of practicality, logic, or research can assault this argument.
eleanorroosevelt1 4 years ago 3
@eleanorroosevelt1 no, he say that big car hybrids dont give good mpg but are make an statement. he was not referring to the prius
denisrenelara 10 months ago
@denisrenelara i make a statement every time i leave treadmarks in the toilet
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JASONCANDLE 4 years ago 4
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brskeen 4 years ago 2
I love my carbon footprint! lol Just pay for gas and be quiet, hybrid cars are lame.
z31club 4 years ago 3
LOL... Making the statement is actually more important then results.
why am I not surprised...
VeritasEtLibertas82 4 years ago 3
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luneytuney0 4 years ago
Why is the guy on the left so stupid? They attach the electric motor to the v6 because the four cylinder can't charge the battery that runs the electric motor. Diesel is only like 4 dollars a gallon and if you can get twice the amount of miles on as diesel then it would be like 2 gallons of gasoline....you do the math.
ETH132 4 years ago
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gina888warhol 4 years ago
Have the Americans never heard of Diesel!
In Europe the Audi A4 & BMW3 series diesels (as well as many others) can return over 50 MPG. They have plenty of performance (sub 10s to 60 + 120 mph top end) yet this guy did not even mention diesel as an option, he thought 30 mpg was good! Even my 6 year old beat up Nissan Primera P12 gets over 42 mpg and I drive that hard.
Jeez.
karlmac1 4 years ago
yes but in the United States Diesel is insainly high priced and it is like they said in the vid: we want cars that show conservation and healthy air so with Diesel yes we get the fuel conservation but were is the part were we save the air around us and also he said in the vid we dont like buying forin gas.
Jeez.
gamewiz203 4 years ago
its cause greedy rich oil conglomerates relay on the lack of efficiency of American cars so they can drain the middle class then move on to china after America goes into recession cause of foren debt. mostly which is owed to china due to trade deficit. so yes America is a sacrifice.
doggets 4 years ago
As a non american those are grate news. keep it up ^^
pvaz 4 years ago
Try the Aircar, way better fuel economy than any other car --- supposed to come out soon
watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4
SatwaMan 4 years ago
hybrid is just stupid, it weighs double a gas care,making it much less efficient; and double a pure electric so if youre gonna have a heavy ass car use all that gas engine room for more batteries making the car work all day on pure electricity in the end costing you much less on fuel than gas
izzzay 4 years ago
not to mention that an pure electric car gets energy from a powerplant that is much more clean burning than a car and also on an electric car nothing can wear out exept the tires. no oil needed :)
doggets 4 years ago
Sure a power plant is cleaner burning but there is a 7% average trasmission loss moving the electicity.
dutchboy99 4 years ago
Chris is right. Someone who is really serious about conservation should buy the car that actually has better than average fuel economy as opposed to something that pretends to.
g00fball1 4 years ago
True but people perfer to make a statement rather than just be environomental friendly from the start.
robm425 4 years ago 2
That must be why you see so many of those wedge-shaped Prius hybrids here in West Los Angeles. The streets are crawling with those ugly little things. The liberal yuppies who live in Beverly Hills, Brentwood and Pacific Palisades think they're doing something for the environment by driving a Prius, when mainly they're just making themselves feel less guilty.
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metex75x 4 years ago
Brian Chee, hybrid=the new bling
triumph209 4 years ago
sounds like smug to me
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smithmeisterfunk 4 years ago
great idea!
insaneasylum898 4 years ago
hybrid is a stupid idea, since it still burns petroleum, with more ancillary bullshit surrounding it. So stop trying to make people believe it's the answer or a viable alternative.
veltpak6 4 years ago 3
Why should it be stupid if it still burns petroleum? So every petroleum car is stupid?
Where is the logic in that?
It's a great idea, and it is a great alternative. If everyone would drive such a car, the gas prices wouldn't be so high, because our demand would be far less.
In the long run (>20 years) we need other alternative. But for now it's great!
bartjebeltegoed 4 years ago
Actually, if we all stop buying petrol, prices will go up to stop the oil companies failing.
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veltpak6 4 years ago
You make no sense. You think cars should use propulsion?
RobTheChief 4 years ago
Anti-gravity?
Oh, that's right, it was reverse-engineered from that flying saucer that crashed at Roswell! Or did scientists from the future travel back in time and give the secret of anti-gravity propulsion to L. Ron Hubbard?
scotpens 4 years ago
you're really stupid. a) you believe what you're TOLD lol b) you honestly think that consumer's have unrestricted access to all propulsion technologies ever created. Because no one would want to keep it secret for war, black ops and military purposes. oh no, let the public know all of our technologies.... Ya dude, even by speculative common sense standards, youre really stupid.
veltpak6 4 years ago
In Europe we already have cars that can do 50, 60 or 70 miles per gallon and just have a normal diesel engine. Hybrids are hypocritical. Anyway, Honda has now released the hydrogen FCX Clarity which has zero emissions. America just doesn't get stuff Europe and Japan has been doing for years. By the way, Japanese cars are different over here. See the dancing drunkard on my channel.
jamesdadrumma 4 years ago
that's because america is controlled by scum who don't want anything that they aren't controlling or anything that won't put money in their pocket to happen.
that's why nobody in america has patented a car that needs little to no gasoline.
assdoooouuutttt 4 years ago
fucking morons, hybrids are for town/city driving where the v6 or whatever would be drinking fuel and not getting you anywhere fast
goddamn!
peace
deedidee 4 years ago
Sounds all good and well but does not touch the masses who are creating carbon footprins at every-increasing levels. If we do not work on our foundations - on all levels, we will all fall anyway. Whether we believe in environmental issues or not, they are real. What is our real technological ability to work for the future? Aren't we a CAN DO Nation? Smart and less waste for the masses. Glitz for the rich!
SparklestheClown 4 years ago
The problem with hydrogen is where they get it from either corn or sugar cane and which takes electricity which if its not clean still pollutes. So you're just substituting one pollutant for another. The best way is pure electric power from wind or water or nuclear and fully electric cars and thats pretty much it.
jakeeve26 4 years ago
Hydrogen from corn or sugar cane? I thought that was ethanol.
scotpens 4 years ago
Global warming is fake! You are all suckers!
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jdoll123 4 years ago
Why Hybrid when you can use 100% Hydrogen. If They force Hydrogen Conversion on N.Y. Taxi Cabs, within a month the air would clean up.
cbahman 4 years ago
other wise we are fucked
johnpleto 4 years ago
Just make more hydrogen cars
UnreleasedWKR 4 years ago
Where does hydrogen come from?
link10909 4 years ago
H20 is water, right? the H is hydrogen, comes from water, the thing is that if u could extract hydrogen from water, you would have a car just running on water, but there are other problems that come to that
unlokitomas 4 years ago
that is nufff hard to do and would probly (not certain but probly) require more energy than it would receive.
charlieccc 4 years ago
Unfortunately water has low energy as atoms go, if you burn Hydrogen and oxygen it will yield heat and water.
This differs from how other things burn if you burn wood it doesn't reform into a log thats because in its chemical state it had chemical energy which means its parts wanted to break apart they just needed a little something to do it, but you cant heat up water and burn it because the h2o have no reason to want to break, they have little chemical energy.
link10909 4 years ago
You can use an electric current to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen. It's called electrolysis, and we all probably remember something about it from high school science classes. The problem is, the electricity has to be generated somewhere, and that's usually by burning coal, oil or natural gas. There's some loss and waste with each stage of energy conversion. Bottom line: You can't get something for nothing.
scotpens 4 years ago
car company's are just been fucking pussy's. If they wana make energy efficient cars, they could just make fully electric cars. At the the moment it just seems like they're treading water untill they're told its ok for them to build them.
carnut666 4 years ago
FUCK HYBRID, GO FULL ELECTRIC YOU FUCKING OIL TYCOON DICKS.
The average person drives an average of 30 miles per day. That's WAY less than the range of a fully electric car. These cars were already invented but pulled from the market because of BUSH and all his greedy fucking oil butt buddies.
staphinfection 4 years ago
spot on But i know the next class of prius is plug in and synergy,, so my friend we have to go nuclear
johnpleto 4 years ago
Nope, we need to harvest the solar power from deserts and then figure out how to store extra energy.
MiGP1981 4 years ago
bollix we cant nuclear the only 4 now then n50 years hopily fusion
johnpleto 4 years ago
Yes, but to make electricity it takes oil.
trevcali 4 years ago
It wasn't Bush, it was a little thing called the free market. GM had a limited pilot program with its EV-1 electric vehicle, which could only be leased, not purchased. There wasn't enough consumer demand to justify commitment to full production.
scotpens 4 years ago
That was the ugliest car on the planet, nobody bought it because it was embarrassing to look at.
teed7 4 years ago 2
haha the fat guy's eyes when he says we are getting "duped"
flymusicbikealot 4 years ago
Hybrid makes sense for congested city driving, provided there is no need for A/C or heat.
If you have a highway commute with good overall traffic flow, a VW diesel is the best overall for most drivers.
The consumer must appreciate that the automakers must sell a number of very good MPG cars so that the high profit sales of the gas guzzlers doesn't mess up their CAFE ratings.
Toyota loves to sell Prius at a loss, it means they can still sell big profit Sequoia / Tundra 4WD pain free.
Mtechthewise 4 years ago
the guy on the right is completely retarded..
trevort888 4 years ago
In other words, "Americans are retards".
Who knew?
LayneRoxxx 4 years ago 2
The fat guy on the right is such a hypocrite...
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metex75x 4 years ago
I would love to see a car that was diesel/bio, electric, plug in, solar.What about a plug in electric car that has a fast release for the battery pack so when you get low on power on long trips you pull into the station and swap batteries then proceed on. We try our best to make all our trips together in the prius to save fuel.We stock extras because we say if you run out of x it can cost us y in fuel. So every time we go to store we get bread and have one of x in use we have another in stock.
cdltpx 4 years ago
I own a prius the MPG is not as stated on the sticker we average about 42 or so depending on who drives we do mostly city driving. There are so many variables that determine your mileage, run the AC, engine temp, hard acceleration, tire pressure, speeds, if you draft other vehicles all determines MPG. We can get better MPG at 70 than at 62 if we get a truck to break the wind. When you have a tailgater it is as if he is stealing your fuel.
cdltpx 4 years ago
no. when you have a tailgater you both get better fuel economy. that is the whole point of drafting in nascar, it makes both cars go faster because the together the cars are more aerodynamic.
baum9art 4 years ago
The American public is STUPID!
BootchMagoo 4 years ago
Hybrids send a wrong message to the market. They benefit from traffic jams and thats not the motivation for a car. Car manufacturers like Volkswagen (Audi) have demonstrated time and again that clean burning petrol, and turbo-diesel engines are very efficient and minimal polluting. The diesel in-fact gives more MPG than the hybrids. Toyota needs to rethink its principles.
kaushik316 4 years ago
Hybrids don't make sense PERIOD.
You want to go green/save money go buy a econo DIESEL morons. Europeans figured this out a LONG time ago..
Sigrafix 4 years ago 3
Conserve? Do any of you (or the hosts) understand that we are polluting more with hybrids than with standard gasoline vehicles? It's called calculating all variables. Be informed: to truly conserve, buy a vehicle with the least amount of polution as a result of a its production, use (use = gas purchases), maintanance, and disposal. These are just the major variables (with many minors).
A true environmentist is an honest one, as well. Buy a hummer. Do the research and be amazed.
libs08LOL 4 years ago
these guys are both idiots, neither of them have a solid argument. i came to this video hoping to help me decide if i wanted a hybrid or not and i just got even more confused. the guy on the left doesn't realize that the lexus hybrids are targeted at people who want to do their bit to save the environment but don't want to give up the speed of their expensive cars for the slowness of something like a prius.
fertyop 4 years ago
Does anyone know how much and what types of polution are produced during the production of the batteries found in hybrid vehicles? It's been something I have the trying to research, but finding the facts has proven to be diffucult and time consuming.
Vearrow 4 years ago
If you save money in the long run, why wouldnt you consider a hybrid?
meathead612 4 years ago
Hybrid is for fags! I never saw a hybrid driver whos ass I couldnt kick! hahaha
LiberalshateAmerica 4 years ago
LOL!
trevcali 4 years ago
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Glad to see someone got my joke! haha
LiberalshateAmerica 4 years ago
i thought they stopped making the accord hybrid.
badgrammar 4 years ago
I am in the process of determining which new car I am going to buy. I currently drive an Acura MDX and feel I need an SUV to haul my kid and "stuff". I currently get 18 mpg. I want to purchase another SUV but want to get better gas mileage; not because I can't afford to pay more for gas but because I want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. So what's wrong with jumping on the "stop-gap measure" bandwagon? I am looking at buying the Lexus RX400h. The
Prius and Accord are too small.
jgabsaz 4 years ago
why don't you buy American
baum9art 4 years ago
I am.
Toyota directly employed around 34,675 people in the US, invested $15.5 B, produced 1.2 M vehicles using US and foreign auto parts, sold 2.54 million vehicles, and donated $340M to nonprofits. It has in total 10 plants, $2.9B per year payroll, purchased $28B in parts and supplies from 30 states. It created around 386,000 jobs in the United States as result of Toyota's spending and demand from suppliers. It celebrated its 50th year anniversary in the United States in 2007.
jgabsaz 4 years ago
actually there was a study a few years ago. Toyota had more parts and cars made in the US than GM, % wise. Toyota employed so many people in the US that is not even considered Japanese anymore.
goma3 4 years ago
Not To Hybrid win
realyman 4 years ago
You stated that fuel cells are the future, that seems a bit naive at this point. Electric vehicles are becoming more practical with improved battery technology. It takes electricity to make hydrogen for fuel cells, so if you have good batteries then who needs fuel cells?
As far as this debate you both make good points, but consider that the automakers have an interest in selling more car, which gives the hybrid an advantage. Also, hybrids add weight to cars, so make less sense in small cars.
tooomp 4 years ago
Why not a Bio-Diesel I-4 Hybrid? Use electricity (battery) in the city, bio-diesel on highway.
Hasbro253 4 years ago
Basically Brian (guy in tan) is saying the American public is stupid so, if the automakers slap a "hybrid" badge on it people are thinking they're doing the enviroment a favor while they're still using a V6....awesome. I think Diesel is a much better option more fuel efficienct that gas and yet cheaper than a hybrid. They can be made to burn very clean also.
M3Galaxie 4 years ago
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JASONCANDLE 4 years ago
Luxury hybrids = sham. If you really cared, get the car you NEED that is the most efficient, not the car you WANT that is less damaging.
Hybrids are about changing habits, not adapting cars to what a consumer thinks she wants. If a consumer thinks she needs a 2 ton SUV to drive 40 miles to work, the hybrid ought to show her that she never needed the SUV in the first place.
Luxury hybrids are a novel solution to a problem that should never have become such a problem in the first place.
ratmondC 4 years ago
a luxury hybrid doesnt make sense because the fact that anyone would buy a luxury car means that they have enough money for gas anyway
AgentOrange04 4 years ago
When you take into account the transportation, manufacturing, and mining of the nickel for the Toyota Prius batteries, it is more environmentally unfriendly than a H2. If you want to help with foreign oil dependence and CO2 emissions, just get a car that gets 30+ mpg and be done with it.
If you don't believe me look it up. Any Toyota with a battery is the worse thing you could buy if you want to help.
cajunatheist 4 years ago
Nickel is very abundant in the earth's crust-bonus. My Toyota Camary gets 51 mpg around town and looks great. The batteries when done go back to Toyota to be recycled. I am doing my part, when will you start? H2 is more than 15 years away, hmmmm, what to do in the meantime?
doryb756 4 years ago
The nickel mine in Northern Canada where they get the nickel for Toyota batteries puts out so much waste that there is a 5 mile "dead zone" around it. So dead in fact that NASA uses it to test lunar rovers. Then, the nickel has to be shipped to Germany for conversion to foam, then to China where the batteries are assembled, then Japan to be put into the vehicle. Sorry, but your hybrid is much less friendly than my Nissan Sentra that gets 37mpg.
Google "prius battery dead zone" and READ, then buy
cajunatheist 4 years ago
Nice input. However, battery production, recycling, and disposal is more harmful to the environment (hence for the reason of my post).
Do a little more research.
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furubainuyuki 4 years ago
It makes no sense whatsoever to buy a car that gets 50-mpg for cheaper gas if you have to shell out $5,000 for a new battery every 40,000 miles.
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metex75x 4 years ago
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omaistheway 4 years ago
WHo gives a fock what these white asholes have to say?
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johndoughy 4 years ago
When it's all said and done. It'll all come down to the Price.
Q115115 4 years ago
Hyrbid will not work...it's like mixed marriages...they fail soon after.
alrozz 4 years ago
We are in the boat we are in because America has failed to stand up to the tyrants on our shores and chose to run to the suburbs in turn we have to get all the Arabs involved and now we have street hoodlums and international ones to boot.
cdltpx 4 years ago
If people would stand up to the street hoodies and used their time to raise their children rather than spend their time traveling to and from work they would have less hoodies on the streets. True you have to be a witness that in turn means you have to defend your self which means firearms would have to be carried by more responsible citizens.
cdltpx 4 years ago
To the point where fuel cost cuts into maintence cost in a downward spiraling tailspin that places all you have in jeopardy. The root of all this is in the very basis of what this country was founded upon. Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
cdltpx 4 years ago