Just to say, this happens because when the sucking bounds meet they create weird ripples in spacetime that mess the time up in that area. If you brought a computer there you'd notice it may change from 12:00 to 11:59. This is because the sucking area in it's bounds also messes time up itself. If 2 of those get mixed, the time control gets messed up so if a black hole to the past and one to the future meet, the middle is either past and future or the present but paused.
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Black Holes don't exist. The way galaxies rotate, and their violent ejections of matter jets, do not conform to expectations based on gravity. To account for these and other anomalies, such speculative devices as "dark matter" – at the last count numbering seven different varieties – "dark energy," matter collapsing into black holes, and similar exotic mechanisms that have never been observed are introduced to make the theory fit the facts. Electricity powers the universe:
Ah, the big question about these is this...is it a rip in space-time? Is it a ball of infinite density? And yet, if it were, would it BE our universe, considering the fact that that says that it would eventually take in everything? Is it REALLY a hole?
@MusiruneProductions it's not a hole it's just a well of near infinite density, anyways think of it as a funnel but the end is closed. the farther the water is the less effect the funnel has, the closer the more. anyways it is a super dense ball of matter. if we lived inside one, we would be instantly crushed.
@lollipopbrigade Yes, that's basically what I've heard, just curious on the most current Idea, what with the imperfectness of the human race and all...thank-you, and well-put!
why would they collide? Wouldn't the gravitational forces that brought them close to each other provide enough momentum for them to orbit each other for at least a VERY long time?
If you take a larg-er mass nearby then you can explain expansion. If the cosmos is infinite and the universe is finite as it is visible then why couldn't a larger or many larger universes nearby (cosmically speaking) exlain vacuum energy i.e. Vacuum energy i.e. Dark matter.
Vacuum energy and dark matter are not even remotely the same thing. I don't know what you mean by "cosmos," but taking it to mean "multiverse," the reason is that objects in another universe cannot interact with objects in our universe, by the very definition of "universe." However, there are objects in M-theory called branes that could possibly explain dark matter if there is some matter on nearby parallel 3-branes, but this seems very unlikely at this point.
black holes are not like vaccuums. they are more like magnets, anything within a certain range gets pulled in. if your not in its gravitational field, then you wont be affected.
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Dont believe so. If they are so supermassive and so black holes, how does matter and energy emerge from the certer of the galaxies as has been repeatedly observed? Accretion disks? Make me laugh.
Those are theoretical compensations for empirical failure in proving the mainstream cosmological theory that includes the big bang, black holes and redshifts as (only) a measure of distance.
I'm coming into this halfway through i can see...but if you meant a belief in a god by "conveniently invisible" then I must point out a flaw in that comparison.
A belief in a god would be based on faith, as is required for any religion, not empirical evidence. How interesting indeed that scientists seem to play the same game at times, offering "dark matter" and "dark energy" instead of empirical scientific reproducable data and acting as though it is proven thoery.
No good scientist has ever claimed that the existence of dark matter and dark energy is proven, they are simply a means to completing the physical model that attempts to explain the existence of all the matter in the universe.
Science relies on faith just as much as religion, otherwise there would be no point in pursuing phenomena like black holes.
"Science relies on faith just as much as religion" Bullshit, Science relies on data and observation, which scientists then try to explain with their models.
You are correct. BUT: observation is merely what our brains interpret. Don't get me wrong, I believe in God as much as I believe in fairies and floating tea pots, but I would be wrong if I were to say that science is infallable. We place our faith in the observations we make and the data we collect that it is absolute and true. If we don't, we are just as arrogant as a Theist, convinced by the existence of God purely based on their holy teachings.
"observation is merely what our brains interpret." And faith is what? Wishful thinking!
"We place our faith in the observations" I wouldn´t call that faith, since faith is loaded with religious believes, better would be assumptions that are then checked and ignored if it turns out they are wrong. BTW there are a LOT of observations that we don´t need assumptions about, like do stones fall on earth? And if you repeat an experiment with the same outcome that observation doesn't need "faith".
'no scientist has ever claimed that dark energy/matter is proven'
did you not understand?
rly - it's a theory and you can work with it till it is proven or flawed, then you get a new theory.
and right now, god is not proven since the first human being ever had the idea of an super hero called 'God' - may superman would've been a better name....
god is an idea and nothing more. Just representing something in our selves called conscience
I just said a belief in God is faith based. Of course, that means it's not proven as you repeated, ridiculing it in the process. Your subjective opinion on what God is...drum roll...is also based on faith.
As is scientists belief in dark matter/energy.
That was my point.
To accept something that is not proven through empirical reproducable data is called "having faith."
The difference between a religion (belief in god or what ever you may call it) and a scientific theory would probably be that a scientific theory acknowledges itself as being simply a hypothesis which can be modified or discarded as new knowledge is acquired on the subject . As opposed to religion which acknowledges itself as being the only truth which never changes or fluctuates. If you wish that I continue further, please, let me know. I would happily brief you on the matter.
I compared a belief in God to a belief in dark matter, not science and religion. Science and religion are indeed different and exactly in the way you said.
But a belief in God and a belief in dark matter is very similar (at this point in time).
There is no empirical evidence for either. One helps complete our current understanding of the universe. The other helps complete many people's understanding of reality.
No evidence for dark matter? Aside from galaxies spinning in ways that clearly violate Newtonian physics? We can see its gravitational footprint.
Scientists didn't just make dark matter up for the hell of it. It was hypothesized to explain an observed phenomenon. And the dark matter particle, the WIMP (weakly interacting massive particle) was already predicted by quantum mechanics anyway. It was the most obvious candidate.
If you don't buy dark matter, by the way, you have to rewrite Newton.
There is a thing called empirical, reproducable scientific data. We have none as far as dark matter/energy goes.
That's why it's called dark matter. If we knew what it was or could recreate it in a lab we would probably name it after the scientist who discovered it.
You're exactly right, we see heavenly bodies breaking the laws of gravity, as there isn't enough mass to hold them in orbit. So we created a temporary substitute. What if the law is wrong though?
You and I have agreed completely on the basis of dark matter, but you continue to reply to me with a negative attitude. I believe this is because I have taken the position that it takes "faith" to believe in dark matter.
This bothers you, so you have continually repeated exactly what I've said, but in a way that sounds like you're contradicting me. Since I am stating the exact hypothesis and it can't be contradicted, we should be arguing on whether or not it takes faith to believe in it.
"If dark matter is wrong, scientists go with whatever new explanation is more plausible"
This isn't necessarily correct either. Scientists refuse to accept a theory all the time, instead relying on instinct.
Eintstein went to his grave trying to disprove QM. He never succeeded, but he never accepted it either. He "refused to believe God plays dice with the universe."
Stephen Hawking had a major problem with current black hole theory until recently admitting it was probably correct.
"If you don't buy dark matter, by the way, you have to rewrite Newton"
This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. If you don't have faith that dark matter exists then you must rewrite most of our physics, and not just Newton but Einstein as well (which I am on the fence about. I think it's a solid hypothesis, it's just not proven yet).
Being stubborn and not wanting to give in to evidence is what you don't like and scientists do that all the time.
Did you not understand why that was the case? Why Dark Matter follows from Newton? It's because astronomers look through their telescopes and see galaxies blatantly disobeying Newton's laws of motion. They rotate in such a way they couldn't unless they had a lot more mass than they appear to have. Adding up everything we know is in the galaxy yields only a fraction of that mass.
So either there's mass in the form of dark matter or Newton is wrong.
I understand what dark matter and energy are NewColdness.
What I'm telling you, and which you obviously understand as well as I do, is that there is a difference between empirical data and opinion. Dark matter does not have empirical data to back it up. It is based on the idea that our understanding is correct, and for now it fills in a problematic hole.
When we really find out what's going on, we will alter it.
Prove a dogmatic fundamentalist wrong and they'll tell you you're going to hell. Prove a religious person wrong and if they truly are open minded, they will ponder it.
Are you really saying you've proven God doesn't exist?
Scientists can be subject to the same human nature. That's why the peer review process exists. Because scientists have to be checked rigorously on their findings, else they would fake evidence to become famous.
This is no new thing. It's happened hundreds of times.
I'm not an athiest, as that is the position there is no God.
I'm not suggesting dark matter was faked, and I plainly stated that I have no problems with the hypothesis at this time, except for people who act like it is proven theory.
I was pointing out that the peer review process is in place because human beings lie, even scientists. Look at the beginning of the theory of evolution. Although the theory itself was sound, how many people glued gorilla skeletons upright trying to prove it?
fatsomamacheese wrote: "was pointing out that the peer review process is in place because human beings lie, even scientists. Look at the beginning of the theory of evolution. Although the theory itself was sound, how many people glued gorilla skeletons upright trying to prove it?"
I totally agree that peer review is effective at weeding out bullcrap. On another note, what if they use Gorilla Glue(TM) brand glue to glue those gorillas together? :D
Massive BH already discovered in every galaxy wich were observed for that purposes. Now some scientists start to doubt what was first galaxies or massive BHs.
Actually, protons are part of the nucleus of an atom, same as neutrons. A cell is the building block of complex organisms, and is absolutely nothing like an atom. And I think you are correct about stars revolving around something at the core of whatever galaxy they're in, but it isn't necessarily a black hole or even a single object. It could be an incredible collection of 'common' matter so massive as to achieve a similar effect at a distance.
Dude, do you even think about what you say???? Cells and protons arn't even tought in the same classroom....... Cells are from Biology, their living things.....Protons and electrons belong it atoms, which belong in Molecules......
FYI, Protons are positive, electrons are negative. Neutrons are neutral.....Nothing revolves around them. Protons, Neutrons, electrons, as well as cells don't have anything to do with what your talking about. At least not in the capacity you mentioned them in...
i think there is this law that whatever absorbs light gives it off but since black holes dont follow the plan of the galaxy that means no laws for them
imagine if there was a rare event that was so large it destroyed several galaxies in minutes, leaving no evidence of their existence. it destroys every single thing in the radius of the blast down to single Helium atoms
Quetion 3: Is there really a black hole in the middle of milky way
Question 4: If there is a black hole in the middle, shouldnt the galaxy get bigger by time? or maybe there will be only changing in the stars.
The procces of creating a star and a galaxy is quite undiscovered yet. WHY THE FUCK DO THE GAS CLOUDS SOMEHOW suddenly become more dens in some points so that this sunbuilding reaction can start ???
They do the exact same thing... so wouldn't they -only- be affected if they collided at a weird angle? The gravity would disrupt both holes differently as they pass through... or if at the same level and same height they would combine and cancel one out, at least that's the way I would imagine it...
i think if two black holes collide then they would suck each other and they would both dissapear or.. the bigger hole would suck in the smaller one:D.just my idea:P
I don't think they would do this. I mean, they're holes in spacetime, right? Holes of pure nothingness, we know. Now, how is a black hole of absolutely nothing meant to eat a similar hole? They're not solid, so they shouldn't be able to move. Imagine a hole in some wood being sucked into another hole in the wood - yeah, it doesn't work. Black holes are completely immovable HOLES. So, really, I think that 2 black holes would just stay where they are, or merge into a bigger black hole.
Alright, I have no idea what I'm talking about any more, so just forget I said anything and get on with your lives - I know I need to... Incidentally, I now have no idea whether a black hole is a hole. Well, I do, but... ARRG, embarrassment, annoyance, ignorance... I'm going to stop now.
for your information, so much energy is released in the form of gravitational radiation, that it kills all life within a 5000 light year radius. This is way more desturctive than all the atomic bombs humans could ever produce, and is way more destructive than a supernova.
When an object becomes so dense light can no longer escape, it's called a black hole. They're created in the massive pressure of a star's core when the star is at the end of it's life and its nuclear force can no longer oppose gravity. The star is thought to have to be several times more massive than our sun.
yeah, all a black really is is a huge collection of infinite gravity, I really don't think their would be like an explosion if they hit or anything lol
That was not an explosion, it was a graphical representation of the ripples in space time as two black holes near each-other. The model shows how they think gravity waves are released when two black holes collide.
Oh my gawd some of you twixters need to get out in life and SEE and EXPERIENCE things instead of debating if "this is the Matrix or not" because I PROMISE you if a black hole or other REAL LIFE singularity got close enough to Earth or the Solar System, you'd be too busy shitting yourself in fear to debate if it REALLY exists!! Hahahahahahaha
you cannot allow the ignorance of children of drug addict mothers to spoil your fun.
I heard this same bullshit years ago about "what is real?" how do you know you exist?" by the SAME people who just cannot play the stock market enough now, so I guess they KNOW whats real eh??? hahahahahahahahaha
Why don't you do it? Black Holes always missed any prediction or falsification. Every theory gave always gave a formal proof for falsification-validation. Black holes never did. Or maybe the proof disappeared into the hole? If Black Holes are proved, also God and Flying Spaghetti Monster are equally scientifically proved (i.e.: not proved).
Well, your way of thinking is wrong. First of all, u actually can't "see" a black hole, only accretion disk made of matter close-to-c'speed spinning - but I assume that you know that. Secondly - if there is no black holes, then why there is no "BIG" star inside our Galaxy core? Gravity pulls it all together, therefore should be some effect of it. While we see nothing. Only "very fast" moving stars near Galaxy core. What have enough force to move STARS? If it is not black hole then what is it?
We say there must be a BH in our core because our model (not the reality) can explain that pull only with gravitation. It's not an explanation for BH! Be carefull: according to our model, our Galaxy need no BH! Then we saw superfast stars so we had to put a BH here as well... but a BH with not a single feature of other supermassive BH. So strange...
If I think in your way, I'd put BH everywhere, for Gamma rays, for cosmic rays, for dark matter, dark energy. If not, what is it? Lol
Please everybody remember that black holes still wait for a formal prove. What we see could be caused by something different, unless we prove it. Do we want to prove it? It seems we don't want to. It seems we must accept them as a dogmatic assumption.
Black holes are perfect both for religion and for scientific materialism... so now you know why there is no interest in proving them (risking to falsify them, that's the point)
That's not a good example. We proved radio wave exist. We still miss any proof of the existence of black holes. No scientist ever dared to claim we proved black holes.
But, you see? Millions of guys totally sure black holes ezist! That's so strange. That's faith.
lol i couldn't care less if they exist or not.. but from the things that scientist got so far, i believe strongly that they exist.. but dunno.. these things we can never ever prove, trust me, even if we have proven it, it is still not prove!!
I agree. But the same you can say for God. So have I to scientifically accept God for the same reasons?? We don't think so, isnt'it? So, believe in God, Black Holes and Flying Spaghetti Monster. But none of the above have been proved. They are equally verified.
At most Stephen Hawking proved Hawking radiation: if a black hole exist, it must produce such radiation. If the black hole exist.
Look, why don't you stop with short sentence and put some reference. If you don't agree with me, avoid useless answers. If you can prove you are right, then prove it.
Just choose.
And anyone sure about Black Holes existence, please do post some reference. How can you make such false claim?
get a close look and maybe even go into it to see if there is a surface or exactly what it is but that would take something indistrucktable so... yea but if any thing it would be fun oh and i would check out a super massive as well
hmm... there are several theorys on what a black hole could be i think that a black hole is a space in witch matter has become so dens it can no longer sustain a fizzical form but is a point where gravity gets turnd in on itself so any mass that gets pulled into the void is turnd into its base components and crammed into a singularity or maybe it is a rip in the space time continuum that sucks everything into onother deminsion who knows but if i had a shipe with an antigravity sheald id love to
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I believe that Planet X could happen, but I don't think it has anything to do with the Mayan calendar ending at 2012. I think the clalendar ending at 2012 is just like the clanedar built into my cell phone ending at 2079: they just stopped adding dates. Maybe they were tired of recording dates. I'm sure maybe a mayan would have said in their native language, "gee, maybe I should continue adding to it" but never got around to it. So I don't think it has anything to do with Planet X.
WOW WOW lolol you guys are so fucking stupid stop talking about 2012 cause you guys dont know what will happen on the year so stop fucking talking about bs
I think this space stuff is crap... There's like a black hole..how do ppl know there's a black hole?like Alber Einstein said something bout a black hole like in the time he lived how could he know u cant like fly to it in his time...I think this is bullcrap
It's not like he was some normal retard thinking shit up. There's lots of science to back up what he says. What he said explained things we didn't know about in space and it worked.
the reason we know that black holes are real is because they emit vast amounts of x-rays and the stars around them are traveling much to fast to be in orbit around anything but a black hole and odviously albert einstein couldn't and we can't now so thats isn't really relevent
nothing bad is going to happen in 2012. The supposed date is Dec 21 2012. It isn't cataclysmic. It's a spiritual enlightenment, and I'm not talking about religion here.
2012, means not the end of the world but a great cghang in human society. We might find a clean safe fuel source or a cure 4 cancer of aids might be discovered or the world might make more steps 4 global democracy. the possibilites r endless and 4 the best :)
The year 2012 doesn't mean a damned thing, sorry. Everyone's getting this from the fact that one section of the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, which doesn't mean anything, really.
this whole 2012 thing is based apon the planet X or Nibiru idea.
NASA and scientist believe there is another planet that orbits the sun, they estimated its mass and radius of revolution, came out with an answer of 3600 years for one orbit.
This planet is supposed to come close to Earth and screw up its poles, cause earth quakes and all sorts of natural disasters.
This also intercepts ideas from Sumerians and Mayans calenders. Search planet X or Nibiru and watch some videos, do some research
2012 is the year the earth completes its 26,000 year wobble known as the 'great year' coincidently in the same year (round about the same time too!) the earth and the sun will line up with the centre of our galaxy and the galactic equator, maybe the mayans believed that these two events happening simultaniously will have drastic and dyer effects on our civilisation.
imagine our galaxy to be the same shape as a doughnut with a hole in the middle, the hole represents the black hole in the middle of ours, now, imagine our solar system spinning around our galaxy at about the same level icing is on doughnuts, possibly just dipping into the dough on our travels, the year 2012, wer gonna b deep in the dough level with the hole, causin great gravitational pull, along with the suns gravitational pull, hope you understand a little better :)
in my imagination the two bodies would be orbiting around one another extremely fast (spinning), like if you took two extreamly powerful round magnets sent them at eachother on parralel paths they hit eachother and spin redicoulsly fast. however, i dont think this has any relevence to anything physical...but its cool to think about.
according to the glow, u can tell how much the old gamma rays have weakened predictably. In fact, u know when u put a tv on with no input its static. Well, go into a really thick lead light proof room and turn it on, I bet u its completely black but on.
they mean dopplar effect by, when the big bang occured. Since it was the brightest thing EVER and since space is so empty, light which has weakened by spreading its electromagnetic field so much(like a fire or bulb is brighter the closer you get. But cuz of the emptiness almost all the light is unobstructed and generally a universal ambient glow now at wavelengths and amplitude similar to scrambled radio chatter.
i think black holes fuel quasars as of a link between the two quasars emit millions of times the energy of the sun as of a white being the opposite of a black hole.
the 2012 stuff is something we cant prove its biblical so we dont know what is going to happen nostradamus said it and he said so many things that were true. the thing is who knows?!
NASA knows, they have said that no such thing exists, if it did they would've seen it MANY years ago. Was posted on the NASA forums 26:th of December btw. If you want link, contact me. :)
also, astronomy, nor any other kind of science, is bs, considering it is all around you and there's no point in denying it. the computer you are watching youtube on [and youtube itself] is a product of science. and just because people can't prove something right away, doesn't mean it is untrue, because that is what science is, HOW things work.
alright...for one thing, that stupid 2012 thing about all the planets aligning and all hell breaking loose on Earth is so....gah, it's just straight up BS. just cause planets align doesn't mean anything bad would happen [unless you think like some over-religious idiot from the dark ages].
next, people have an idea!!!!!!!!!!!!1 of how old the universe is because of math and the clues of how things form in this universe, but no one knows for sure, emphasis on the term "idea".
I know 2012 is a bonch of people going crazy because crop circles told them it would happen, but wouldn't be fun if we where wrrong? And it happened? That would be halaryus (I want spell check).
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kano26 1 day ago
I guess if two giant black holes want to be on drugs, nothing can stand in their way.
Frisbieinstein 1 month ago
Just to say, this happens because when the sucking bounds meet they create weird ripples in spacetime that mess the time up in that area. If you brought a computer there you'd notice it may change from 12:00 to 11:59. This is because the sucking area in it's bounds also messes time up itself. If 2 of those get mixed, the time control gets messed up so if a black hole to the past and one to the future meet, the middle is either past and future or the present but paused.
P.S. This is my theory.
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Black Holes don't exist. The way galaxies rotate, and their violent ejections of matter jets, do not conform to expectations based on gravity. To account for these and other anomalies, such speculative devices as "dark matter" – at the last count numbering seven different varieties – "dark energy," matter collapsing into black holes, and similar exotic mechanisms that have never been observed are introduced to make the theory fit the facts. Electricity powers the universe:
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ErikLiberty 1 year ago
Ah, the big question about these is this...is it a rip in space-time? Is it a ball of infinite density? And yet, if it were, would it BE our universe, considering the fact that that says that it would eventually take in everything? Is it REALLY a hole?
MusiruneProductions 1 year ago
@MusiruneProductions it's not a hole it's just a well of near infinite density, anyways think of it as a funnel but the end is closed. the farther the water is the less effect the funnel has, the closer the more. anyways it is a super dense ball of matter. if we lived inside one, we would be instantly crushed.
lollipopbrigade 1 year ago
@lollipopbrigade Yes, that's basically what I've heard, just curious on the most current Idea, what with the imperfectness of the human race and all...thank-you, and well-put!
MusiruneProductions 1 year ago
@MusiruneProductions Anytime, and those human characteristics are quite a pain to gain knowledge these days :P
lollipopbrigade 1 year ago
why would they collide? Wouldn't the gravitational forces that brought them close to each other provide enough momentum for them to orbit each other for at least a VERY long time?
seanbrockest 2 years ago
@seanbrockest they would still eventually collide
MansonFreak 1 year ago
Yo What the fuck people... This is about blackholes and space... not about religions.
exoster 2 years ago 19
but i think the black wholes should be like same size. or els one could "eat" the other and so on
LovinMisaCampo 2 years ago
If you take a larg-er mass nearby then you can explain expansion. If the cosmos is infinite and the universe is finite as it is visible then why couldn't a larger or many larger universes nearby (cosmically speaking) exlain vacuum energy i.e. Vacuum energy i.e. Dark matter.
broad1551 2 years ago
Vacuum energy and dark matter are not even remotely the same thing. I don't know what you mean by "cosmos," but taking it to mean "multiverse," the reason is that objects in another universe cannot interact with objects in our universe, by the very definition of "universe." However, there are objects in M-theory called branes that could possibly explain dark matter if there is some matter on nearby parallel 3-branes, but this seems very unlikely at this point.
EebstertheGreat 2 years ago
"Science relies on faith just as much as religion"
hahahahaha
vnano 2 years ago
"Science relies on faith just as much as religion"
!!!
what is x + 1 = 2
hummmm I believe and have faith x = 5
perhaps you add one to both sides then you add both ones together to get 2. Yeah then 2 + 2+1 = 5
yeah
I'm not ganna try to solve that, I have faith it's not possible !
I'll just have to believe it's 5 !
misterblackdark 2 years ago
black holes are not like vaccuums. they are more like magnets, anything within a certain range gets pulled in. if your not in its gravitational field, then you wont be affected.
DerPoltergeist13 2 years ago
Sweet!
ongyuxuan1 3 years ago
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lawl people belive in a load of shit...tell ya what iff u belive in black holes tell superman to get u in space and get footage noob
RunFlip 3 years ago
Tell you what, get a education.
KeePiTReeL1 2 years ago 5
woah... u're really stupid
superfisure 2 years ago 2
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there is no black hole whatsoever in the middle of our galaxy, or whatever galaxy, by the way.
xsoireg 3 years ago
There are supermassive black holes in the middle of every galaxy.
KrakDag 3 years ago 15
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Dont believe so. If they are so supermassive and so black holes, how does matter and energy emerge from the certer of the galaxies as has been repeatedly observed? Accretion disks? Make me laugh.
xsoireg 3 years ago
Ever heard about Dark Matter and dark energy?
CrimeBeatsMusic 2 years ago
Those are theoretical compensations for empirical failure in proving the mainstream cosmological theory that includes the big bang, black holes and redshifts as (only) a measure of distance.
xsoireg 2 years ago
so....your criticizing people for believing in something that cant be seen?
it seems you also believe in something that is conviniently invisible. how interesting indeed.
DerPoltergeist13 2 years ago 4
i don't agree with anyone, but helium is also invisable, but it still exists.
hoddie54 2 years ago
Helium also has a mass. It's also not invisible. The molecules are just spread out so you can't see him. It's possible to make liquid helium...
Budsticles 2 years ago
I'm coming into this halfway through i can see...but if you meant a belief in a god by "conveniently invisible" then I must point out a flaw in that comparison.
A belief in a god would be based on faith, as is required for any religion, not empirical evidence. How interesting indeed that scientists seem to play the same game at times, offering "dark matter" and "dark energy" instead of empirical scientific reproducable data and acting as though it is proven thoery.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
No good scientist has ever claimed that the existence of dark matter and dark energy is proven, they are simply a means to completing the physical model that attempts to explain the existence of all the matter in the universe.
Science relies on faith just as much as religion, otherwise there would be no point in pursuing phenomena like black holes.
:)
18vallancel 2 years ago
"Science relies on faith just as much as religion" Bullshit, Science relies on data and observation, which scientists then try to explain with their models.
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
You are correct. BUT: observation is merely what our brains interpret. Don't get me wrong, I believe in God as much as I believe in fairies and floating tea pots, but I would be wrong if I were to say that science is infallable. We place our faith in the observations we make and the data we collect that it is absolute and true. If we don't, we are just as arrogant as a Theist, convinced by the existence of God purely based on their holy teachings.
18vallancel 2 years ago
"observation is merely what our brains interpret." And faith is what? Wishful thinking!
"We place our faith in the observations" I wouldn´t call that faith, since faith is loaded with religious believes, better would be assumptions that are then checked and ignored if it turns out they are wrong. BTW there are a LOT of observations that we don´t need assumptions about, like do stones fall on earth? And if you repeat an experiment with the same outcome that observation doesn't need "faith".
Kashrlyyk 2 years ago
what part about
'no scientist has ever claimed that dark energy/matter is proven'
did you not understand?
rly - it's a theory and you can work with it till it is proven or flawed, then you get a new theory.
and right now, god is not proven since the first human being ever had the idea of an super hero called 'God' - may superman would've been a better name....
god is an idea and nothing more. Just representing something in our selves called conscience
and that's just the whole idea
JheakrynaKyAlur 2 years ago
I just said a belief in God is faith based. Of course, that means it's not proven as you repeated, ridiculing it in the process. Your subjective opinion on what God is...drum roll...is also based on faith.
As is scientists belief in dark matter/energy.
That was my point.
To accept something that is not proven through empirical reproducable data is called "having faith."
Perhaps we should call dark matter "superman"...
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
The difference between a religion (belief in god or what ever you may call it) and a scientific theory would probably be that a scientific theory acknowledges itself as being simply a hypothesis which can be modified or discarded as new knowledge is acquired on the subject . As opposed to religion which acknowledges itself as being the only truth which never changes or fluctuates. If you wish that I continue further, please, let me know. I would happily brief you on the matter.
DiabloFenatic 2 years ago
I compared a belief in God to a belief in dark matter, not science and religion. Science and religion are indeed different and exactly in the way you said.
But a belief in God and a belief in dark matter is very similar (at this point in time).
There is no empirical evidence for either. One helps complete our current understanding of the universe. The other helps complete many people's understanding of reality.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
No evidence for dark matter? Aside from galaxies spinning in ways that clearly violate Newtonian physics? We can see its gravitational footprint.
Scientists didn't just make dark matter up for the hell of it. It was hypothesized to explain an observed phenomenon. And the dark matter particle, the WIMP (weakly interacting massive particle) was already predicted by quantum mechanics anyway. It was the most obvious candidate.
If you don't buy dark matter, by the way, you have to rewrite Newton.
NewColdness 2 years ago
There is a thing called empirical, reproducable scientific data. We have none as far as dark matter/energy goes.
That's why it's called dark matter. If we knew what it was or could recreate it in a lab we would probably name it after the scientist who discovered it.
You're exactly right, we see heavenly bodies breaking the laws of gravity, as there isn't enough mass to hold them in orbit. So we created a temporary substitute. What if the law is wrong though?
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
If dark matter is wrong, scientists go with whatever new explanation is more plausible.
And if that involves rewriting Newton, then whoever did it becomes the new Newton.
NewColdness 2 years ago
You and I have agreed completely on the basis of dark matter, but you continue to reply to me with a negative attitude. I believe this is because I have taken the position that it takes "faith" to believe in dark matter.
This bothers you, so you have continually repeated exactly what I've said, but in a way that sounds like you're contradicting me. Since I am stating the exact hypothesis and it can't be contradicted, we should be arguing on whether or not it takes faith to believe in it.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
"If dark matter is wrong, scientists go with whatever new explanation is more plausible"
This isn't necessarily correct either. Scientists refuse to accept a theory all the time, instead relying on instinct.
Eintstein went to his grave trying to disprove QM. He never succeeded, but he never accepted it either. He "refused to believe God plays dice with the universe."
Stephen Hawking had a major problem with current black hole theory until recently admitting it was probably correct.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
"If you don't buy dark matter, by the way, you have to rewrite Newton"
This is a perfect example of what I'm saying. If you don't have faith that dark matter exists then you must rewrite most of our physics, and not just Newton but Einstein as well (which I am on the fence about. I think it's a solid hypothesis, it's just not proven yet).
Being stubborn and not wanting to give in to evidence is what you don't like and scientists do that all the time.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Did you not understand why that was the case? Why Dark Matter follows from Newton? It's because astronomers look through their telescopes and see galaxies blatantly disobeying Newton's laws of motion. They rotate in such a way they couldn't unless they had a lot more mass than they appear to have. Adding up everything we know is in the galaxy yields only a fraction of that mass.
So either there's mass in the form of dark matter or Newton is wrong.
Understand yet?
NewColdness 2 years ago
I understand what dark matter and energy are NewColdness.
What I'm telling you, and which you obviously understand as well as I do, is that there is a difference between empirical data and opinion. Dark matter does not have empirical data to back it up. It is based on the idea that our understanding is correct, and for now it fills in a problematic hole.
When we really find out what's going on, we will alter it.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Prove a religious person wrong and they'll tell you you're going to hell.
Prove a scientist wrong and they'll give you an award.
NewColdness 2 years ago 2
Prove a dogmatic fundamentalist wrong and they'll tell you you're going to hell. Prove a religious person wrong and if they truly are open minded, they will ponder it.
Are you really saying you've proven God doesn't exist?
Scientists can be subject to the same human nature. That's why the peer review process exists. Because scientists have to be checked rigorously on their findings, else they would fake evidence to become famous.
This is no new thing. It's happened hundreds of times.
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
You're an atheist with regards to Shiva, Thor, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and Cthulu. So am I. I just go one god further than you.
And apparently that condemns me to hell.
Are you suggesting that dark matter has been faked? Tricky, seeing as how nobody has claimed to have found it yet.
Dark matter is the most likely explanation for what telescopes are seeing. If a more likely explanation appears, scientists go with that.
But a more likely explanation has not appeared. Hence, dark matter.
NewColdness 2 years ago
I'm not an athiest, as that is the position there is no God.
I'm not suggesting dark matter was faked, and I plainly stated that I have no problems with the hypothesis at this time, except for people who act like it is proven theory.
I was pointing out that the peer review process is in place because human beings lie, even scientists. Look at the beginning of the theory of evolution. Although the theory itself was sound, how many people glued gorilla skeletons upright trying to prove it?
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
fatsomamacheese wrote: "was pointing out that the peer review process is in place because human beings lie, even scientists. Look at the beginning of the theory of evolution. Although the theory itself was sound, how many people glued gorilla skeletons upright trying to prove it?"
I totally agree that peer review is effective at weeding out bullcrap. On another note, what if they use Gorilla Glue(TM) brand glue to glue those gorillas together? :D
EcrossH 2 years ago
"On another note, what if they use Gorilla Glue(TM) brand glue to glue those gorillas together? :D"
Well, that would be one hell of a gorilla skeleton!
fatsomamacheese 2 years ago
Massive BH already discovered in every galaxy wich were observed for that purposes. Now some scientists start to doubt what was first galaxies or massive BHs.
gfan83 2 years ago
@KrakDag Yes, definitely.
MusiruneProductions 1 year ago
@KrakDag Not every galaxy ;)
lollipopbrigade 1 year ago
@KrakDag they don't need to be in the middle
CartickPradeepan 3 months ago
protons and electrons revolve around a neutron in a cell,planets, etc. revolve around a star in a solar-system, so it stands to reason.....
stars should revolve around some-thing much bigger than them in a galaxy!
divijkm 2 years ago
Actually, protons are part of the nucleus of an atom, same as neutrons. A cell is the building block of complex organisms, and is absolutely nothing like an atom. And I think you are correct about stars revolving around something at the core of whatever galaxy they're in, but it isn't necessarily a black hole or even a single object. It could be an incredible collection of 'common' matter so massive as to achieve a similar effect at a distance.
HonestAlthalus 2 years ago 2
Dude, do you even think about what you say???? Cells and protons arn't even tought in the same classroom....... Cells are from Biology, their living things.....Protons and electrons belong it atoms, which belong in Molecules......
FYI, Protons are positive, electrons are negative. Neutrons are neutral.....Nothing revolves around them. Protons, Neutrons, electrons, as well as cells don't have anything to do with what your talking about. At least not in the capacity you mentioned them in...
Budsticles 2 years ago
thats what's supposed to kill all of us, when the one in the middle of our galaxy collides with another...
SmurfsTurf1 3 years ago
i think there is this law that whatever absorbs light gives it off but since black holes dont follow the plan of the galaxy that means no laws for them
327s18 3 years ago
Can a black hole "Eat" another black hole? (hehe, sounds like the title of a porn movie)... but really, can that be possible?
Daeniaro008 3 years ago 2
LOL this made my fucking day! hahahhhah
bluprint79 3 years ago 2
imagine if there was a rare event that was so large it destroyed several galaxies in minutes, leaving no evidence of their existence. it destroys every single thing in the radius of the blast down to single Helium atoms
lonesoldier33 3 years ago
yin and yang. a picture speaks a thousand words.
gablemalaise 3 years ago
that would be fucking intense shit
DarkFalcon4 3 years ago
Couldn't a black hole POSSIBLY devour itself?
teamFUNIMATO 3 years ago
and those hydrogen atoms within the proto-star "rub" against eachother to cause friction. that's the first heat of a star.
when the temperature is high enough nuclear fusion kicks in. and that's the beginning of a star.
sim5191 3 years ago
Questone1:Do the sun goes toward the center of the gallaxy by closing its orbit to the center?(i dont know thats why I am sking)
Question2: did the blackhole create the milky way galaxy? if not how do the galaxy get its shape without the blackhole in the middle.
bobma4kata 3 years ago
and the unnoted question: those hydrogen clouds do not suddenly become stars.
the hydrogen atoms react towards eachother by, guess what. gravity.
sim5191 3 years ago
Quetion 3: Is there really a black hole in the middle of milky way
Question 4: If there is a black hole in the middle, shouldnt the galaxy get bigger by time? or maybe there will be only changing in the stars.
The procces of creating a star and a galaxy is quite undiscovered yet. WHY THE FUCK DO THE GAS CLOUDS SOMEHOW suddenly become more dens in some points so that this sunbuilding reaction can start ???
bobma4kata 3 years ago
well bobma4kata.
i can give some answers (or however it's spelled)
question one: i'm unsure if that really happens
question two: indeed, the supermassive black hole created the milky way. search for supermassive black holes. there should be 4 parts of that movie.
question three: yes, there is. search on google or something.
question 4: the galaxy's only get bigger with a collision of at least two galaxies.
and stars change too.
sim5191 3 years ago
No, Nemzal, you're right... It WON'T happen again... Or Dave the cat's anus will get you, that's right, he's out of rehab.....
~~ZooD - 8-)~~
nemzalnzood 3 years ago
They do the exact same thing... so wouldn't they -only- be affected if they collided at a weird angle? The gravity would disrupt both holes differently as they pass through... or if at the same level and same height they would combine and cancel one out, at least that's the way I would imagine it...
Mudkipkiller 3 years ago
Rofl a black hole is a black sphere that reflects light? Wow man I have to brush up on my science after watching this, hah.
KritikalDimensions 3 years ago
So are the to thought to cancel each other out? I've always wondered about this.. and the video seems to show them forming a planetary body..
razorbackblood06 3 years ago
i think if two black holes collide then they would suck each other and they would both dissapear or.. the bigger hole would suck in the smaller one:D.just my idea:P
soloboy1991 3 years ago
I don't think they would do this. I mean, they're holes in spacetime, right? Holes of pure nothingness, we know. Now, how is a black hole of absolutely nothing meant to eat a similar hole? They're not solid, so they shouldn't be able to move. Imagine a hole in some wood being sucked into another hole in the wood - yeah, it doesn't work. Black holes are completely immovable HOLES. So, really, I think that 2 black holes would just stay where they are, or merge into a bigger black hole.
~~Nemzal~~
nemzalnzood 3 years ago
Or, rather, where they AREN'T...
~~Nemzal - Great at philosophical comedy, and more modest than a dog.~~
nemzalnzood 3 years ago
Of course, the fact that some people would say "It's not really a hole!", which is true, could completely destroy my whole argumenet there.
I realise that I knew that, but I got caugh in a philosophical moment and made a fool of myself, just like politicians.
Still, it makes you think, doesn't it?
~~Nemzal - Clever, but forgetful / showy / annoying / sorry about the constant comments, ZooD, it won't happen again.~~
nemzalnzood 3 years ago
Alright, I have no idea what I'm talking about any more, so just forget I said anything and get on with your lives - I know I need to... Incidentally, I now have no idea whether a black hole is a hole. Well, I do, but... ARRG, embarrassment, annoyance, ignorance... I'm going to stop now.
~~Nemzal - has now had his brain melt again~~
nemzalnzood 3 years ago
thanx ;) i understand.
soloboy1991 3 years ago
I figured they would repel one another.... Just a crazy theory that the sub-atmoic world was not so different from space & our universe
macca1088 3 years ago
for your information, so much energy is released in the form of gravitational radiation, that it kills all life within a 5000 light year radius. This is way more desturctive than all the atomic bombs humans could ever produce, and is way more destructive than a supernova.
Glassfiction 3 years ago
too many lightyears of destructive powers
400 or less sound more realistic
JheakrynaKyAlur 3 years ago
Uhhhh for your information.... NOBODY KNOWS! ITS NEVER BEEN WITNESSED BEFORE SO HOW DO YOU KNOW? EXACTLY! YOU DON'T!
4Tracer 3 years ago
whats a bh?
samanthakmp1234 3 years ago
When an object becomes so dense light can no longer escape, it's called a black hole. They're created in the massive pressure of a star's core when the star is at the end of it's life and its nuclear force can no longer oppose gravity. The star is thought to have to be several times more massive than our sun.
AnduinX 3 years ago
yeah, all a black really is is a huge collection of infinite gravity, I really don't think their would be like an explosion if they hit or anything lol
TheShatteredPrince 3 years ago
That was not an explosion, it was a graphical representation of the ripples in space time as two black holes near each-other. The model shows how they think gravity waves are released when two black holes collide.
AnduinX 3 years ago
at 0:19 its awesome.
Guitarrocker169b 3 years ago
oooh
mauro0903 3 years ago
Doesn't look good. Maybe it could swallow a solar system instead of just a star.
RubixHEAVEN 3 years ago
when such a thing gets close to a solar system, there will be no more planets. you can simply call it a star then (for some more yeras at least)
JheakrynaKyAlur 3 years ago
we know that stuff is real. we're not all in a big computer like in The Matrix. (i hope)
what we're debating is whether things exist.
not whether or not life is real, which doesen't make sense by the way.
Eddynight 3 years ago
Oh my gawd some of you twixters need to get out in life and SEE and EXPERIENCE things instead of debating if "this is the Matrix or not" because I PROMISE you if a black hole or other REAL LIFE singularity got close enough to Earth or the Solar System, you'd be too busy shitting yourself in fear to debate if it REALLY exists!! Hahahahahahaha
jeffmitchell123456 3 years ago
ooh i know i would.. thas y i dont like talkin about this kinda stuff.
anth427 3 years ago
you cannot allow the ignorance of children of drug addict mothers to spoil your fun.
I heard this same bullshit years ago about "what is real?" how do you know you exist?" by the SAME people who just cannot play the stock market enough now, so I guess they KNOW whats real eh??? hahahahahahahahaha
escueladeleyi 3 years ago
Why don't you do it? Black Holes always missed any prediction or falsification. Every theory gave always gave a formal proof for falsification-validation. Black holes never did. Or maybe the proof disappeared into the hole? If Black Holes are proved, also God and Flying Spaghetti Monster are equally scientifically proved (i.e.: not proved).
fabbio8888 3 years ago
Well, your way of thinking is wrong. First of all, u actually can't "see" a black hole, only accretion disk made of matter close-to-c'speed spinning - but I assume that you know that. Secondly - if there is no black holes, then why there is no "BIG" star inside our Galaxy core? Gravity pulls it all together, therefore should be some effect of it. While we see nothing. Only "very fast" moving stars near Galaxy core. What have enough force to move STARS? If it is not black hole then what is it?
JakeTiDe 3 years ago
Yes I know.
We say there must be a BH in our core because our model (not the reality) can explain that pull only with gravitation. It's not an explanation for BH! Be carefull: according to our model, our Galaxy need no BH! Then we saw superfast stars so we had to put a BH here as well... but a BH with not a single feature of other supermassive BH. So strange...
If I think in your way, I'd put BH everywhere, for Gamma rays, for cosmic rays, for dark matter, dark energy. If not, what is it? Lol
fabbio8888 3 years ago
Please everybody remember that black holes still wait for a formal prove. What we see could be caused by something different, unless we prove it. Do we want to prove it? It seems we don't want to. It seems we must accept them as a dogmatic assumption.
Black holes are perfect both for religion and for scientific materialism... so now you know why there is no interest in proving them (risking to falsify them, that's the point)
fabbio8888 3 years ago
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Black holes are real...
flamed112 3 years ago 4
erm blackholes have been proved to exist.. and i don't know why flamed112 got marked as spam, but it is not spam lol
superaktieboy 3 years ago 2
So you must be able to give some reference of the final proof lollllllllllll.
Listen: there no debate on the fact that black holes are still a theory to be proved. Sorry for the bad news.
I don't know about the spam.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
fabbio8888 I have never seen a radio wave!
Do they exist??
pwnage0013 3 years ago
That's not a good example. We proved radio wave exist. We still miss any proof of the existence of black holes. No scientist ever dared to claim we proved black holes.
But, you see? Millions of guys totally sure black holes ezist! That's so strange. That's faith.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
lol i couldn't care less if they exist or not.. but from the things that scientist got so far, i believe strongly that they exist.. but dunno.. these things we can never ever prove, trust me, even if we have proven it, it is still not prove!!
superaktieboy 3 years ago
I agree. But the same you can say for God. So have I to scientifically accept God for the same reasons?? We don't think so, isnt'it? So, believe in God, Black Holes and Flying Spaghetti Monster. But none of the above have been proved. They are equally verified.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
Stephen Hawking proved them so get over it!
pwnage0013 3 years ago
At most Stephen Hawking proved Hawking radiation: if a black hole exist, it must produce such radiation. If the black hole exist.
Look, why don't you stop with short sentence and put some reference. If you don't agree with me, avoid useless answers. If you can prove you are right, then prove it.
Just choose.
And anyone sure about Black Holes existence, please do post some reference. How can you make such false claim?
fabbio8888 3 years ago
Well I suppose everything you see is a radiowave, since light is a form of radiowave.
wondar123 3 years ago
get a close look and maybe even go into it to see if there is a surface or exactly what it is but that would take something indistrucktable so... yea but if any thing it would be fun oh and i would check out a super massive as well
rottentreats98 3 years ago
hmm... there are several theorys on what a black hole could be i think that a black hole is a space in witch matter has become so dens it can no longer sustain a fizzical form but is a point where gravity gets turnd in on itself so any mass that gets pulled into the void is turnd into its base components and crammed into a singularity or maybe it is a rip in the space time continuum that sucks everything into onother deminsion who knows but if i had a shipe with an antigravity sheald id love to
rottentreats98 3 years ago
doctor who lol
wifiman1 3 years ago
what happened
Zelda08854 3 years ago
a black hole is nothing
mickeymouse14 3 years ago
when they colide together do they become a white hole??
youaretuber10 3 years ago
is it me , or does time slow down in that vid.
hoddie54 3 years ago
sorry, it speeds up near the end!
hoddie54 3 years ago
oh my god!! be sure to have your coffemakers switched off!
;)
minimalismuss 3 years ago 2
lolololol.
RandomCoke 3 years ago
for the people who are scared that when our sun will turns into a red giant and turns the earth into a massive fireball...THATS IN 8 BILLION YEARS
aaronmehrban 3 years ago
what a relief and here i tought i was sooner than that :)
chidoceronte 3 years ago
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carlcrot 3 years ago
sux to be them =)
aaronmehrban 3 years ago
LOL XD
Cavin8r 3 years ago
yeah, but its still gonna come, right?
Cavin8r 3 years ago
ofcourse
aaronmehrban 3 years ago
I believe that Planet X could happen, but I don't think it has anything to do with the Mayan calendar ending at 2012. I think the clalendar ending at 2012 is just like the clanedar built into my cell phone ending at 2079: they just stopped adding dates. Maybe they were tired of recording dates. I'm sure maybe a mayan would have said in their native language, "gee, maybe I should continue adding to it" but never got around to it. So I don't think it has anything to do with Planet X.
MaxxTheSlash 3 years ago
I like the beginning, but maybe they should add some music to go along with it
katespence123 3 years ago
My ex use to have a black hairy hole
r0dchester 3 years ago
That means you now lack a black hole.
katmandu2k 3 years ago
WOW WOW lolol you guys are so fucking stupid stop talking about 2012 cause you guys dont know what will happen on the year so stop fucking talking about bs
C0l4o2a6k9e6r 3 years ago
I think this space stuff is crap... There's like a black hole..how do ppl know there's a black hole?like Alber Einstein said something bout a black hole like in the time he lived how could he know u cant like fly to it in his time...I think this is bullcrap
ZijnErNogNamenOver 3 years ago
It's not like he was some normal retard thinking shit up. There's lots of science to back up what he says. What he said explained things we didn't know about in space and it worked.
G0dmaster 3 years ago
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how could he know bout a black hole in space :S i think thats retarted
ZijnErNogNamenOver 3 years ago
retarded, not "retarted" your retard...
Cadmus5115 3 years ago
radio waves dude
xpeteyx13 3 years ago
x-rays
gsk8er3000 3 years ago
the reason we know that black holes are real is because they emit vast amounts of x-rays and the stars around them are traveling much to fast to be in orbit around anything but a black hole and odviously albert einstein couldn't and we can't now so thats isn't really relevent
gsk8er3000 3 years ago
It also distorts the light from stars behind, or around it.
Skaflar 3 years ago
agreed ive seen better on science channel sorry though
zemaken 3 years ago
Isn't there a better simulation of two BH colliding? This is horrible. =/
Megashadow2000 4 years ago 2
I'm confused, what was that sphere? Was it just pure matter, or..?
miseriaykretek 4 years ago
It was just 2 Black Holes in 1.
guitarhero102030 3 years ago
nothing bad is going to happen in 2012. The supposed date is Dec 21 2012. It isn't cataclysmic. It's a spiritual enlightenment, and I'm not talking about religion here.
seekandenjoy 4 years ago
when the mayans first made the calendar was in -2012 thats why it ends at 2012 its pure mathematics thats all... :D hope to clear your doubts :P
LORDMETALMAN 4 years ago
2012, means not the end of the world but a great cghang in human society. We might find a clean safe fuel source or a cure 4 cancer of aids might be discovered or the world might make more steps 4 global democracy. the possibilites r endless and 4 the best :)
DoctorNeuro72 3 years ago
The year 2012 doesn't mean a damned thing, sorry. Everyone's getting this from the fact that one section of the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, which doesn't mean anything, really.
G0dmaster 3 years ago 2
yeah, people freaked out in 1999 over 2000. people R always looking for armagedon.
DoctorNeuro72 3 years ago
this whole 2012 thing is based apon the planet X or Nibiru idea.
NASA and scientist believe there is another planet that orbits the sun, they estimated its mass and radius of revolution, came out with an answer of 3600 years for one orbit.
This planet is supposed to come close to Earth and screw up its poles, cause earth quakes and all sorts of natural disasters.
This also intercepts ideas from Sumerians and Mayans calenders. Search planet X or Nibiru and watch some videos, do some research
blakenator123 3 years ago
2012 is the year the earth completes its 26,000 year wobble known as the 'great year' coincidently in the same year (round about the same time too!) the earth and the sun will line up with the centre of our galaxy and the galactic equator, maybe the mayans believed that these two events happening simultaniously will have drastic and dyer effects on our civilisation.
ryan1111111555555555 3 years ago
wow we are so lucky to be alive in that event lol
johndaboy123 3 years ago 3
"The earth and the sun will line up with the centre of our galaxy", big deal, don't they do that twice a year, every year?
katmandu2k 3 years ago
imagine our galaxy to be the same shape as a doughnut with a hole in the middle, the hole represents the black hole in the middle of ours, now, imagine our solar system spinning around our galaxy at about the same level icing is on doughnuts, possibly just dipping into the dough on our travels, the year 2012, wer gonna b deep in the dough level with the hole, causin great gravitational pull, along with the suns gravitational pull, hope you understand a little better :)
ryan1111111555555555 3 years ago
And then we'll have The Age of Aquarius?
I don't really belive this stuff, but I hope it's true, because I don't really like the world how it is now.
katmandu2k 3 years ago
should i be worried?, i mean its in 2 years time!
hoddie54 3 years ago
4 dude
ryan1111111555555555 3 years ago
No, you are just going to eat more doughnuts this year.
katmandu2k 3 years ago
in my imagination the two bodies would be orbiting around one another extremely fast (spinning), like if you took two extreamly powerful round magnets sent them at eachother on parralel paths they hit eachother and spin redicoulsly fast. however, i dont think this has any relevence to anything physical...but its cool to think about.
TopGunMan 4 years ago
go get suck into black hole u,joeycrack666!!!!!!
drsheikhjunior 4 years ago
according to the glow, u can tell how much the old gamma rays have weakened predictably. In fact, u know when u put a tv on with no input its static. Well, go into a really thick lead light proof room and turn it on, I bet u its completely black but on.
pimpmastahanh 4 years ago
they mean dopplar effect by, when the big bang occured. Since it was the brightest thing EVER and since space is so empty, light which has weakened by spreading its electromagnetic field so much(like a fire or bulb is brighter the closer you get. But cuz of the emptiness almost all the light is unobstructed and generally a universal ambient glow now at wavelengths and amplitude similar to scrambled radio chatter.
pimpmastahanh 4 years ago
One word: whoa.
I4ML337 4 years ago
i think black holes fuel quasars as of a link between the two quasars emit millions of times the energy of the sun as of a white being the opposite of a black hole.
the 2012 stuff is something we cant prove its biblical so we dont know what is going to happen nostradamus said it and he said so many things that were true. the thing is who knows?!
Aldawok12 4 years ago
NASA knows, they have said that no such thing exists, if it did they would've seen it MANY years ago. Was posted on the NASA forums 26:th of December btw. If you want link, contact me. :)
ShadowReubenKee 4 years ago
yea if something is 4 years away we could see it
Aj1171 4 years ago
also, astronomy, nor any other kind of science, is bs, considering it is all around you and there's no point in denying it. the computer you are watching youtube on [and youtube itself] is a product of science. and just because people can't prove something right away, doesn't mean it is untrue, because that is what science is, HOW things work.
deliriumtrigger1991 4 years ago
alright...for one thing, that stupid 2012 thing about all the planets aligning and all hell breaking loose on Earth is so....gah, it's just straight up BS. just cause planets align doesn't mean anything bad would happen [unless you think like some over-religious idiot from the dark ages].
next, people have an idea!!!!!!!!!!!!1 of how old the universe is because of math and the clues of how things form in this universe, but no one knows for sure, emphasis on the term "idea".
deliriumtrigger1991 4 years ago
I know 2012 is a bonch of people going crazy because crop circles told them it would happen, but wouldn't be fun if we where wrrong? And it happened? That would be halaryus (I want spell check).
Star3Wars3 4 years ago
hilarious.
deliriumtrigger1991 4 years ago