PACS 164B - Lecture 02

[rabbitwho]

"It seems to me that on this earth there are pestilences and there are victims, and its up to us, so far as possible, not to join forces with the pestilences." Camus - the Plague. That book changed the way I thought about everything.

[pulsebreathing]

Who could imagine what happened after Obama was elected and is probably bringing about an entire non violent revolution in the USA..ending capitaliism for socialism. The implosion of Wall Street by greed, collapse of the world economy..high unemployment will be permanent..ending the superpower he calls the most destructive in the history of man. .

[esaman]

I am dissapointed. He doesn't understand the NV as fundementally as it should be uderstood, for it to actually work. and he sucks at uplying the ideology to oneself. In the shooter situation he should have acted NON VIOLENTLY, taking the risk and the suffering of dying or even letting students to die. His logic for the situation, is idologically identical to the one Bush uses . Same "protect students-country by preemtive attack against lunatic-terrorists-Saddam with a gun-WMD".

[speed8ump]

You need to understand that NV does not work in all situations. NV only works when integrative power can be applied to a situation. Integrative power is impossible to apply to situations where one party has no hope of emotionally connecting with the other. This is a pretty good definition of a sociopath/psychopath.

Even Gandhi advocated violence in some circumstances.

[keithburgun]

"Revolutionaies are people that dont are capable to take organize their own life-or course-so they project their deficience to the rest of the world" - Stalindotudoisso, 2007

[propellerhat]

The equation

NV + V = V

makes mathematical sense if NV is zero and V is nonzero. Offcourse this is not important in the context of the class.

[speed8ump]

also works if V = -infinity, and NV = some finite value, which is more how I'd interpret it (were I to attempt a mathematical interpretation).

[gggrow]

infinity is not a number. something can't equal infinity or -infinity, only tend towards those.

[weedipikia]

@propellerhat Good point, however question still remains... does P = NP?

[propellerhat]

@weedipikia :-)

[stalindotudoisso]

You dont need to fix nothing, just accept reality. Read the reality, dont try to put your view on that to spread your 'new world order' idea to a lamb public. Non violence as a revolution is not different from a blody revolution. Save your soul not your body. Jesus christ never said or did revolution. He did say to accept and stay out of this world. Revolutionaies are people that dont are capable to take organize their own life-or course-so they project their deficience to the rest of the world

[speed8ump]

I would suggest you watch the lecture PACS 164A #17. I suspect you will reject without question all information provided there on your pet subject.